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		<title>By: woody</title>
		<link>http://www.askwoody.com/2009/ms-defcon-get-patched-now/comment-page-1/#comment-875</link>
		<dc:creator>woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter -

I have a long hate relationship with all of the big anti-everything packages. I strongly suggest that you get rid of McAfee, Norton, and any other package that claims to &quot;do it all&quot; in the protection racket.

AVG Free works fine, and it&#039;s free for personal use. Avira works well, too. I&#039;m currently running MS Security Essentials on many machines - it&#039;s free, but it&#039;s still in beta - and it works great.

The one thing you can&#039;t do is run two antivirus products (or firewalls) at the same time. It&#039;s begging for trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter -</p>
<p>I have a long hate relationship with all of the big anti-everything packages. I strongly suggest that you get rid of McAfee, Norton, and any other package that claims to &#8220;do it all&#8221; in the protection racket.</p>
<p>AVG Free works fine, and it&#8217;s free for personal use. Avira works well, too. I&#8217;m currently running MS Security Essentials on many machines &#8211; it&#8217;s free, but it&#8217;s still in beta &#8211; and it works great.</p>
<p>The one thing you can&#8217;t do is run two antivirus products (or firewalls) at the same time. It&#8217;s begging for trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Emsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Emsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding anti virus software. I am currently using Mcafee. Can I also put the avg on my computer too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding anti virus software. I am currently using Mcafee. Can I also put the avg on my computer too?</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara L</title>
		<link>http://www.askwoody.com/2009/ms-defcon-get-patched-now/comment-page-1/#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lat few days Internet Options wont open, so I can&#039;t delete temp files and cookies. It seems since the install of KB973346 and KB961371 on 2 July 09. I dont want to restore as KB973346 looks important as I am on XP SP3 but do you think this is causing the IO not to open and how do I fix it. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lat few days Internet Options wont open, so I can&#8217;t delete temp files and cookies. It seems since the install of KB973346 and KB961371 on 2 July 09. I dont want to restore as KB973346 looks important as I am on XP SP3 but do you think this is causing the IO not to open and how do I fix it. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al -

Sorry. I should&#039;ve been more clear. The detailed instructions posted on the Web are cookbook instructions for cracking Windows - intended for the bad guys. 

Right now, all you need to be concerned about is running through Windows Update and installing all the offered patches. It may take a while, but unfortunately it&#039;s something you need to do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al -</p>
<p>Sorry. I should&#8217;ve been more clear. The detailed instructions posted on the Web are cookbook instructions for cracking Windows &#8211; intended for the bad guys. </p>
<p>Right now, all you need to be concerned about is running through Windows Update and installing all the offered patches. It may take a while, but unfortunately it&#8217;s something you need to do&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.askwoody.com/2009/ms-defcon-get-patched-now/comment-page-1/#comment-822</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there an &#039;AskWoody for Dummies&#039; site? Generally I find your advice very useful and good, but when I see a link like yours of &quot;...and detailed instructions for bypassing Microsoft’s killbit patches posted on the Web...&quot; which takes me to an 87-page PDF of gobbledy-gook (I cannot see ANY reference to your point about their advice on how to &quot;bypass Microsoft&#039;s killbit patches&quot;) I do dispare! How about just a couple paras from you on how to do this? Or a link to an understandable instruction? Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there an &#8216;AskWoody for Dummies&#8217; site? Generally I find your advice very useful and good, but when I see a link like yours of &#8220;&#8230;and detailed instructions for bypassing Microsoft’s killbit patches posted on the Web&#8230;&#8221; which takes me to an 87-page PDF of gobbledy-gook (I cannot see ANY reference to your point about their advice on how to &#8220;bypass Microsoft&#8217;s killbit patches&#8221;) I do dispare! How about just a couple paras from you on how to do this? Or a link to an understandable instruction? Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: rc primak</title>
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		<dc:creator>rc primak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim --

You should read the &quot;MS DEFCON System&quot; link at the top of this page and look look WAAAY down the page)  at what Woody says about Microsoft Driver Updates (also known as &quot;optional software&quot; or &quot;optional hardware&quot; updates). Don&#039;t do it -- these usually will break your hardware Drivers. Instead, if you think you may need a driver update, go directly to the manufacturer&#039;s web site and download their latest version. You will be glad you did it this way.

maghullyback -- 

Yes, security software, including firewalls, can wreak havoc with Microsoft Updates. Suspend or exit security programs once you are securely logged in to MS Updates (when you choose Custom or Express). It&#039;s a bit risky to exit security software while on line, but this method minimizes the risk. When rebooting, remember to re-enable everything.

Woody --

My own updates went well, and I agree that the MS KB Number on MS09-035 was updated, but it is the same patch. 

One of my favorite security programs -- Super Antispyware -- couldn&#039;t handle the MS Updates, and the SAS Updater started crashing with a BSOD (Kernel Driver Memory Leak). Maybe it&#039;s also a Comodo Firewall issue, but I have for the time being switched to Malwarebytes, which updates and scans faster anyway and has predictive heuristics in each scan. I may never switch back. 

All else seems to be going well, except Secunia PSI still thinks Java Runtime (JRE) is insecure, with no existing patch or workaround. So it goes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8211;</p>
<p>You should read the &#8220;MS DEFCON System&#8221; link at the top of this page and look look WAAAY down the page)  at what Woody says about Microsoft Driver Updates (also known as &#8220;optional software&#8221; or &#8220;optional hardware&#8221; updates). Don&#8217;t do it &#8212; these usually will break your hardware Drivers. Instead, if you think you may need a driver update, go directly to the manufacturer&#8217;s web site and download their latest version. You will be glad you did it this way.</p>
<p>maghullyback &#8212; </p>
<p>Yes, security software, including firewalls, can wreak havoc with Microsoft Updates. Suspend or exit security programs once you are securely logged in to MS Updates (when you choose Custom or Express). It&#8217;s a bit risky to exit security software while on line, but this method minimizes the risk. When rebooting, remember to re-enable everything.</p>
<p>Woody &#8211;</p>
<p>My own updates went well, and I agree that the MS KB Number on MS09-035 was updated, but it is the same patch. </p>
<p>One of my favorite security programs &#8212; Super Antispyware &#8212; couldn&#8217;t handle the MS Updates, and the SAS Updater started crashing with a BSOD (Kernel Driver Memory Leak). Maybe it&#8217;s also a Comodo Firewall issue, but I have for the time being switched to Malwarebytes, which updates and scans faster anyway and has predictive heuristics in each scan. I may never switch back. </p>
<p>All else seems to be going well, except Secunia PSI still thinks Java Runtime (JRE) is insecure, with no existing patch or workaround. So it goes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: maghullyback</title>
		<link>http://www.askwoody.com/2009/ms-defcon-get-patched-now/comment-page-1/#comment-805</link>
		<dc:creator>maghullyback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wood Dog,

Yesterday my £uc?+ng updates kept failing to install (error code 80246007) but when I tried today everything went okay. Best solution I&#039;ve found is always turn commercial security suites OFF beforehand, and then download and install each individual update SEPARATELY. A major pain in the arse, but it seems to work this way every time. Yesterday I, erm, didn&#039;t do it this way.

I&#039;ve had an idea about how to improve the Micro$oft updates system considerably. Permanently attach one of those tazer dog training collars around Bill Gates&#039; neck, but modify it so that every time a Windows machine - anywhere in the world - displays an error message, ole Billy Boy gets zapped. He&#039;d instantly buck his ideas up and get things sorted, I reckon. Gatesian Response?

Nice one Wood Dog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wood Dog,</p>
<p>Yesterday my £uc?+ng updates kept failing to install (error code 80246007) but when I tried today everything went okay. Best solution I&#8217;ve found is always turn commercial security suites OFF beforehand, and then download and install each individual update SEPARATELY. A major pain in the arse, but it seems to work this way every time. Yesterday I, erm, didn&#8217;t do it this way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had an idea about how to improve the Micro$oft updates system considerably. Permanently attach one of those tazer dog training collars around Bill Gates&#8217; neck, but modify it so that every time a Windows machine &#8211; anywhere in the world &#8211; displays an error message, ole Billy Boy gets zapped. He&#8217;d instantly buck his ideas up and get things sorted, I reckon. Gatesian Response?</p>
<p>Nice one Wood Dog.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.askwoody.com/2009/ms-defcon-get-patched-now/comment-page-1/#comment-802</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Woody-

I did as directed, and all is well.  I did find one patch for my video card that was hidden, but the last time I downloaded a Radeon patch it totally jacked-up my system, so I didn&#039;t install that one.

I wonder if I should though?  I&#039;m no good at these kinds of things.  

Anyway, thanks for all the help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Woody-</p>
<p>I did as directed, and all is well.  I did find one patch for my video card that was hidden, but the last time I downloaded a Radeon patch it totally jacked-up my system, so I didn&#8217;t install that one.</p>
<p>I wonder if I should though?  I&#8217;m no good at these kinds of things.  </p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for all the help.</p>
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		<title>By: woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Install it, update it, but don&#039;t use it. Use Firefox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Install it, update it, but don&#8217;t use it. Use Firefox.</p>
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		<title>By: woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only high priority.

You should only update drivers if there&#039;s a problem with your current driver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only high priority.</p>
<p>You should only update drivers if there&#8217;s a problem with your current driver.</p>
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