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  • Windows Update update rolling out slowly

    Posted on June 21st, 2012 at 21:29 woody 25 comments

    Several of you have written with observations that Windows Update is getting updated on your machine.

    It’s part of the fallout of the Flame botnet – a good improvement, if it works.

    Not everyone is getting it just yet. Good description by PA Bear here.

    Reader AB wrote in with this worrisome report. It may be a coincidence – or it may be a harbinger of problems to come. It’s still too early to tell.

    Yesterday, June 20, 2012, when I booted my laptop I found that it automatically downloaded and installed a newer version of Windows Update Agent. This was explained as an attempt to overcome vulnerabilities created by false certificates ala Flamer. So far so good. All was well yesterday.

    Today I booted up the little demon and it gagged at ‘loading windows’. Stop. No go. Nada. After 5 minutes of Zen contemplation, I pulled the battery.

    After reinserting the battery and hitting the power button, my screen informed me that Windows had a problem starting and did I want to restart in some diagnostic mode. Fair enough. Try it. The little beast worked for a minute and then informed me that I now have the choice of restoring to an earlier configuration. Niiiiiiice. I capitulated and it worked for a while and then restarted. A bit slower than usual, but here I am.

    I don’t know how many others are in this boat but I am not happy.

    If you encounter similar problems with Windows Update Agent, please reply to this post and give me the details.

     

    25 responses to “Windows Update update rolling out slowly”

    1. hi woody. earlier today, I checked ran Windows Update on my mom’s 32bit Vista laptop and my brother’s 64bit Win7 laptop and Windows Update Agent 7.6.7600.256 got installed, meaning the “update” to Windows Update came through.

      however, running Windows Update on my WinXP SP3 computer turned up only a list of June 2012 security patches and the “update” to Windows Update was NOT offered to my XP computer.

      it looks like those using Windows XP and Server 2003 will get the WUA update later on while those using Windows Vista, Server 2008 and Seven will get the WUA update sooner.

    2. Jonathan Breton

      I have a strange stuff that happen, Windows have update my windows without my consent even If I lock down the WU

    3. Hmmmm….. this update is installing even if you are set to not automatically update!

      I just looked and it shows up as installed yesterday….No one on this machine except me and I didn’t do it!! So far no problems.

      Will have to check the two laptops afterwhile.

    4. Today when my Win7 Pro box started up, it briefly presented a black screen with a large font saying something like “Applying update operation 44 . . . .” This was followed by a normal pre-desktop Win7 screen indicating that updates were being configured. I had not seen anything like the black screen message previously, so I was a bit worried, but I am now guessing that it had to do with the new Windows Update update (my update history shows that it was applied yesterday, but the machine had not been rebooted between then and this morning, which is when the black screen message appeared). My conjecture is that the Windows Update update is not fully applied until a reboot occurs, and that the black screen message is unique to this particular update.

    5. On (just) one of the XP/SP3 machines in my household, there is a problem installing new ActiveX componenets that Microsoft Update / Windows Update sometimes requires. Internet Explorer always crashes at that point. After much experimentation, I discovered that the only way to resolve the issue is to (temporarily) disable Data Execution Protection in IE8. Click on Tools –> Internet Options –> Advanced. Scroll down to Security and uncheck “Enable memory protection to help mitigate online attacks”.

      After the required ActiveX components have been installed, DEP can be re-enabled the next time that IE8 is run.

      This work-around is confounding since one would not expect Microsoft’s own website to cause a DEP problem, but others have reported the same issue. I would be more concerned if I used IE for anything but Windows / Office updates, but — heeding Woody — I don’t.

    6. Once again your information saved us from a minor scare. With automatic updates off I get nervous when something automatically updates. This roll out loaded in the background (noticed a lot of disk action), then did nothing. Next time I booted screen flashed to some dos stuff than up popped the normal finishing update screen and then the download completed. Without your warning i would have panicked wondering why something was updating without my permission. Thanks again

    7. @Marty -

      I think you’re right on all counts.

    8. @Midnight -

      That’s correct. The updater needs to update itself – even if you have auto updates turned on. Believe it or not, that’s a good thing. (Unless Microsoft botches the patch, of course.)

    9. Hi Woody it Sounds like another one of those Wacky Go arounds Again with these Updates..

      Here is my List of Lovelys an i have not update any of them..

      Security Update for Windows XP (KB2685939)
      Download size: 551 KB

      Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool – June 2012 (KB890830)
      Download size: 3.8 MB , less than 1 minute
      After the download, this tool runs one time to check your computer for infection by specific, prevalent malicious software (including Blaster, Sasser, and Mydoom)

      Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2656369)
      Download size: 1.2 MB

      Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2656368)
      Download size: 1.8 MB

      Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 SP1 on Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 x86 (KB2656370)
      Download size: 5.5 MB

      Security Update for Windows XP (KB2707511)
      Typical download size: 691 KB

      Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for Windows XP (KB2699988)
      Download size: 10.2 MB

      Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2686827)
      Download size: 4.3 MB

      Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2686828)
      Download size: 6.2 MB

      Security Update for Windows XP (KB2709162)

      One thing i wanted to mention Woody i updated my F.F and Adobe Flash and other Adobe Stuff that needed to be and i Updated my Java but it seems that since updating these updates that when i’m watching a Video from YouTube there seem’s to be more Studdering in the Videos especially if i move the Page up or Down slightly. And as i said they have been all Updated but it’s puzzling whats causing this..

      With all this it make one want to scratch his or her Head. Time for a Dilly Bar again if these Update could get straghten out and my Wallet could Grow big Enough i might buy every one a Round of them. Lol Who! would i have a big Bill But it would be for a good cause. Well all in Good Humor!

      Hey Woody Thanks for your Time Buddy! and i hope your Enjoying a D.Q. Dilly Bar too have a Good a Weekend and Week Ron..O my Goodness these D.Bars Taste Good..

    10. Jonathan Breton

      We will wait and see

      To date on my Vista SP2 64 Bits all is fine (for the moment)

    11. Woody: I have not seen this update yet on my Windows 7 64-bit HP laptop. Updates are set in Windows to notify but not to download/install until I choose to. I looked in the list of installed updates, and it’s just MSE definition updates and last month’s Windows updates. Also, it’s not listed on the list of this month’s updates that are waiting to be downloaded/installed when you give the go ahead. Anyting to be concerned about? Or will it just eventually show up? Thanks!

    12. Frozen in Atlanta

      my wife’s laptop automatically downloaded the 6/22 update and now won’t restart. It will boot up in safe mode, but then it crashes and goes back to the black screen. Not good.

      Have not been able to find too many other discussions about this update causing problems, but it’s extremely unpopular in our house with that computer now an expensive paperweight.

    13. The Windows Update Agent program needed to update itself, regardless of whether automatic updates is enabled or disabled, unless there’s no internet connection available.

      well woody, it looks like the update to Windows Update came through on my WinXP SP3 computer when I checked early morning last Fri. Jun 22.
      see MS KB article 949104 and expand the “File Information” section to determine what new versions of the WUA files were installed. The WUA update installed on my XP computer is now 7.6.7600.256 but the wuweb.dll file installed was 7.6.7600.257 instead of 7.6.7600.256. only minor differences between builds 256 and 257 of the wuweb.dll file.

    14. Running XP Home SP3. The latest WUA doesn’t work for me. As don’t five or six related FixIts (I’ve lost count).

      Still waiting for a resolution to the June 12, 2012 Framework 2 updates offered repeatedly–KB2656369, KB2686828.

      Maybe, eventually, MickeySoft will have a FixIt similar to the May 18, 2012 (Version 14.1) for their last Framework updates calamity. That one worked for me.

    15. Yes indeed. (Win7 Home Premium 64bit and no automatic win updt)
      On 6-19, at boot (as I wrote in my log)a couple of “registry operations” were announced on the screen. And it turns out that win updt agent 7.6.7600.256 was installed on that date. Good to know, thanks!!

    16. Win 7 just got its updater updated. I had to rebuild my Win XP Pro laptop, so I’ll probably get the update later, or else it already happened during the rebuild. Not a virus, but I got tired of Acronis 2012 being a resource hog. Then the Acronis Uninstaller failed. I’m not paying Revo for their Pro Uninstaller just to save that old laptop, so I rebuilt. And got all current MS Updates while I was rebuilding. (I have that computer set up to get the updates through an IE window inside of Firefox, which is called up from within Microsoft Security Essentials. It works!)

    17. @Frozen -

      Have you tired to roll back to a System Restore point?

      Keep me posted… woody at ask woody dot com …

    18. @WOODY

      Using MS XP SP3. Went to MS update site this a.m. to see what might be pending. Before the site would actually proceed, it presented a box that asked if I wanted to install a Windows Update. At first I declined and clicked the cancel button. A new box appeared saying that I needed to install an ActiveX update. I declined that too. Couldn’t go anywhere at the update site to check my installed update screen, either, so I cancelled out of the update site.

      Went to AskWoody site and reviewed latest comments about this Win Update Update. Decided to go ahead and accept the WUU.

      Went back to the MS update site and let the update install. When it completed, I expected the ActiveX update to reappear but it did not.

      I was able then to look at my installed update screen. I was surprised that I did not see an entry for the just installed update/update action. Closed the update site, and restarted it. Still nothing in the update list.

      Just thought you might be interested in this.

      flavet

    19. I just checked, and the update agent appeared June 22 (VISTA). I was wondering why everything is SO SLOW when I start up in the morning. I finally give up and reboot, and from then on everything is fine. (??!!??)
      Just an observation to add to your collection.
      Thanks for your continuing help.

    20. @flavet -

      That’s a good summary of how it’s supposed to work. I’m not sure why it’s billed as an ActiveX update – but you got the Windows Update update, which is a good thing.

    21. think i was first on this site to mention the windows update agent 7.6.7600.256 understand your collecting info on how its going so far my lap top is behaving normal.

    22. I cheched manually for updates today (the WUdater is off all the time)and was asked IF I wanted to install the WU update.
      It also said it counldn’t check if I didn’t update. I did update and all is good. No slow downs or reboots needed. This is on a W7 SP1 box.

      Thanks Woody for all the work you do for us.

    23. Yep, I got updated too. It scared the hell out of me. I have automatic updates turned off, but I got the update anyway. I thought perhaps it was a virus, so I ran a full sweep, but nothing came up flagged. All systems go though, I’ve had no trouble at all.

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