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    • #102882 Score: 1 | Reply

      woody
      Da Boss
      73 pts

      Latest build number is 14393.969 Details coming on InfoWorld.[See the full post at: Microsoft releases out-of-band cumulative update KB 4015438 for Win10 1607]

      • This topic was modified 2 days, 8 hours ago by  woody.
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    • #102889 Score: 0 | Reply

      dononline
      AskWoody Lounger
      7 pts

      I just noticed that I got the “new and improved” March Cumulative Update offer today — and hid it again. This WaaS bullpoop is beyond insane.

    • #102892 Score: 0 | Reply

      anonymous

      KB4015438 not 348

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    • #102904 Score: 0 | Reply

      PhotM
      AskWoody Lounger
      14 pts

      We will see if John Wink responds to my indirect question on Twitter for CRM>

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      1. Tower Totals: 2xSSD ~512GB, 2xHHD 4TB, Memory 32GB

      SSDs: 6xOS Partitions, 2xW8.1 Main & Test, 2x10.0 Test, Pro, x64

      CPU i7 2600 K, SandyBridge/CougarPoint, 4 cores, 8 Threads, 3.4 GHz
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      2xMonitors Asus DVI, Sony 55" UHD TV HDMI

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      Best Regards,

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    • #102911 Score: 1 | Reply

      Noel Carboni
      AskWoody MVP
      96 pts

      Microsoft no doubt considers this a success story.

      Send out the update to the unpaid testers, have them report immediately what’s wrong, and fix it. Then send THAT out and see what gets reported back. Their OS upgrade was free, so why should they complain?

      Hopefully the fixes to the patches each time around are less risky than the entire patches themselves – i.e., it’s a converging process and ultimately the code will be right.

      But can we really presume that?

      At some point someone has to do rigorous work, not just throw code against the wall of users and see what sticks. For decades the software engineering discipline struggled to find ways to make software right before it’s ever distributed and mistakes become real problems. Now… That all seems washed away.

      What if, in this brave new world of constant delivery of new software, every patch to one problem causes two more? What then?

      A certain amount of money has to be spent on engineering!

      We can only hope some remaining conscientious engineers are trying to improve their processes internally by learning from these mishaps. Hello? Hello? Anyone there at Microsoft?

      -Noel

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      • #102916 Score: 0 | Reply

        PhotM
        AskWoody Lounger
        14 pts

        Avoiding your sarcazim, Noel, 😉 😀

        My only concern is the Release Ring has yet to kick in, yet this year????

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        1. Tower Totals: 2xSSD ~512GB, 2xHHD 4TB, Memory 32GB

        SSDs: 6xOS Partitions, 2xW8.1 Main & Test, 2x10.0 Test, Pro, x64

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        2xMonitors Asus DVI, Sony 55" UHD TV HDMI

        1. NUC 5i7 2cores, 4 Thread, Memory 8GB, 3.1 GHz, M2SSD 140GB
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        Best Regards,

        Crysta

    • #102912 Score: 0 | Reply

      AlexN
      AskWoody Lounger
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      Microsoft’s secret methods for testing code leaked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMdP1k3Qmd4

      On a serious note, it’s good that at least Windows released fixes.  I don’t think it warrants an out-of-band cumulative, but it should at least get a quick patch.

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    • #102913 Score: 0 | Reply

      ch100
      AskWoody MVP
      31 pts

      This is not only out of band, but also later in the day release as it appears.
      Probably normal for an emergency patch which is released when it is ready.

      Interesting that Microsoft didn’t use the hotfix method it deployed twice in January. Instead, it’s rolled out yet another cumulative update to the forced-update masses.

      It is interesting because from the description of the bugs which are fixed, it does not appear that they are so urgent, except for a minority of users. Anyone else can safely wait other few weeks until the regular release of the next CU.
      I am wondering if there is something else which Microsoft knows but did not make it into the documentation.

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      • #102924 Score: 0 | Reply

        Noel Carboni
        AskWoody MVP
        96 pts

        Something they didn’t document?!? Perish the thought!

        🙂

        For what it’s worth my test VM seems more stuck than usual at “Getting Windows ready” after installing this update.

        -Noel

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        • #102931 Score: 0 | Reply

          ch100
          AskWoody MVP
          31 pts

          Pre-requisite for the Creators Edition maybe?! 🙂

        • #102932 Score: 0 | Reply

          Noel Carboni
          AskWoody MVP
          96 pts

          For what it’s worth my test VM seems more stuck than usual at “Getting Windows ready” after installing this update.

          Of these two available…

          ScreenGrab_W10VM_2017_03_20_182330

          These two installed…

          Preparing

          And… It finally finished. Seemed to take a little longer than usual.

          And now I see what appears to be an anomalous readout from the Reliability Monitor(note: two copies of the same Defender update, and no indication the latest cumulative update went in).

          TwoDefenderUpdates

          You’ve just gotta love this level of accuracy from the software.

          -Noel

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          • #102944 Score: 0 | Reply

            ch100
            AskWoody MVP
            31 pts

            Noel, thank you for the additional information and screens.
            Although I normally install early all patches, I think this one can be put on hold being out of band. By the end of this month or early in April we may see the release of the CB of the 1703 version and as such, the patch released last week for 1607 might be the last installed for that version.

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            • #102946 Score: 0 | Reply

              Noel Carboni
              AskWoody MVP
              96 pts

              You’re welcome. Your thoughts seem right for a critical system.

              If it works, don’t fix it.

              -Noel

    • #102925 Score: 0 | Reply

      PhotM
      AskWoody Lounger
      14 pts

      I have Installed the CU with no issues.

      SFC and DISM /RestoreHealth both clean

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      1. Tower Totals: 2xSSD ~512GB, 2xHHD 4TB, Memory 32GB

      SSDs: 6xOS Partitions, 2xW8.1 Main & Test, 2x10.0 Test, Pro, x64

      CPU i7 2600 K, SandyBridge/CougarPoint, 4 cores, 8 Threads, 3.4 GHz
      Graphics Radeon 6880, Neither Over Clocked

      2xMonitors Asus DVI, Sony 55" UHD TV HDMI

      1. NUC 5i7 2cores, 4 Thread, Memory 8GB, 3.1 GHz, M2SSD 140GB
      1xOS W8.1 Pro, NAS Dependent, Same Sony above.

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      Best Regards,

      Crysta

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    • #103019 Score: 0 | Reply

      PKCano
      AskWoody MVP
      23 pts

      Did they just change the download/install folder for this CU from $Windows.~BT to ESD?
      I hadn’t noticed that before.

      • This reply was modified 1 day, 18 hours ago by  PKCano.
      • #103033 Score: 0 | Reply

        PhotM
        AskWoody Lounger
        14 pts

        I have seen ESD on Root but never have seen it used.

        However this a CU, ie Update, not and Upgrade. It is Upgrades the make a directory “$Windows.~BT” but not Updates. Are you confused yet????…. 😀

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        1. Tower Totals: 2xSSD ~512GB, 2xHHD 4TB, Memory 32GB

        SSDs: 6xOS Partitions, 2xW8.1 Main & Test, 2x10.0 Test, Pro, x64

        CPU i7 2600 K, SandyBridge/CougarPoint, 4 cores, 8 Threads, 3.4 GHz
        Graphics Radeon 6880, Neither Over Clocked

        2xMonitors Asus DVI, Sony 55" UHD TV HDMI

        1. NUC 5i7 2cores, 4 Thread, Memory 8GB, 3.1 GHz, M2SSD 140GB
        1xOS W8.1 Pro, NAS Dependent, Same Sony above.

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        Best Regards,

        Crysta

    • #103054 Score: 0 | Reply

      anonymous

      I’m not sure what this means, but I tried to install update KB4015438 WIN10 1607 this morning and it failed. I clicked RETRY and got a message the update had been cancelled.

      Gene E

      • #103061 Score: 0 | Reply

        PhotM
        AskWoody Lounger
        14 pts

        I’m not sure what this means, but I tried to install update KB4015438 WIN10 1607 this morning and it failed. I clicked RETRY and got a message the update had been cancelled.

        Gene E

        Could you tell us your steps of installation. Screen capture would help too, if you post them here.

        I have not seen this in CU Update process, only in the Upgrade process…..

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        1. Tower Totals: 2xSSD ~512GB, 2xHHD 4TB, Memory 32GB

        SSDs: 6xOS Partitions, 2xW8.1 Main & Test, 2x10.0 Test, Pro, x64

        CPU i7 2600 K, SandyBridge/CougarPoint, 4 cores, 8 Threads, 3.4 GHz
        Graphics Radeon 6880, Neither Over Clocked

        2xMonitors Asus DVI, Sony 55" UHD TV HDMI

        1. NUC 5i7 2cores, 4 Thread, Memory 8GB, 3.1 GHz, M2SSD 140GB
        1xOS W8.1 Pro, NAS Dependent, Same Sony above.

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        Best Regards,

        Crysta

    • #103067 Score: 0 | Reply

      anonymous

      PhotM, Thanks for the reply.

      I’m not a WIN 10 fan (I’m using Win 7) but I bought an new computer and it came with Win 10 so I try to keep it up to date.

      I turned on the Win 10 computer this morning and it automatically checked for updates and found KB4015438. It downloaded and tried to install with no input from me. The update failed to install (I didn’t record the error message, sorry) and a RETRY button appeared. I clicked the RETRY button and the update download again (this time it only took a few minutes whereas it had taken hours before). When the download completed, I got a message saying it was preparing to install. A few minutes later, the ‘installing’ message was replace by one saying “Some updates were cancelled. We’ll keep trying in case new updates become available.” Since KB4015438 was the only update in play, I assume that’s the one that was cancelled.

      I’m not too concerned about it since I don’t use the Win 10 computer, I just thought it might be of interest. If not, please don’t spend a lot of time on it just for my sake.

      Thanks again, Gene E

      • #103090 Score: 0 | Reply

        PhotM
        AskWoody Lounger
        14 pts

        OKAY, Can you Click Update in the WU GUI again and see what it does? Have you ever used Powershell?
        Would you be interested in trying this:

        Powershell ISE Module: Installing PSWindowsUpdate, Script: Provisioning Get-PendingReboot
        https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/powershell-ise-module-installing-pswindowsupdate-script-provisioning-get-pend/

        For reference:

        PowerShell- Learning Virtually on MV Academy & MSDN Channel 9 from Videos, eBooks and Blogs
        https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/powershell-learning-virtually-on-mv-academy-msdn-channel-9-from-videos-ebook/

        The reason is PSWindowsUpdate will give you more control to evaluate what is going on. On W 10 RTM, I stay away from WU GUI because MS has striped out so much interaction and control from it. Even on W 8.1 Pro partition I have the WU GUI shut off and I never use it, I use PSWindowsUpdate there too.

        Maybe others can help you sort things out with the the WU GUI but I not sure how to, on your current problem.

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        1. Tower Totals: 2xSSD ~512GB, 2xHHD 4TB, Memory 32GB

        SSDs: 6xOS Partitions, 2xW8.1 Main & Test, 2x10.0 Test, Pro, x64

        CPU i7 2600 K, SandyBridge/CougarPoint, 4 cores, 8 Threads, 3.4 GHz
        Graphics Radeon 6880, Neither Over Clocked

        2xMonitors Asus DVI, Sony 55" UHD TV HDMI

        1. NUC 5i7 2cores, 4 Thread, Memory 8GB, 3.1 GHz, M2SSD 140GB
        1xOS W8.1 Pro, NAS Dependent, Same Sony above.

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        Best Regards,

        Crysta

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    • #103070 Score: 0 | Reply

      anonymous

      Well, I clicked submit too soon. I just checked the Win 10 update status again and it says “your device is up to date” and the update history still shows that KB4015438 “Failed to Install.”

      Gene E

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