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  • How to absolutely, positively block the forced upgrade to Win10 1809

    Posted on September 28th, 2018 at 15:23 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    With the release of Win10 version 1809 imminent — likely on Tuesday — you need to prep your machine to block a forced upgrade.

    The upgrades won’t come immediately, but within a week or two or three, you should expect them to come rolling out the chute. One of them will have your name on them.

    I have full, step-by-step instructions coming in Computerworld.

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    • #220237 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      With the release of 1809 imminent — likely on Tuesday — you need to prep your machine to block a forced upgrade. The upgrades won’t come immediately
      [See the full post at: How to absolutely, positively block the forced upgrade to Win10 1809]

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    • #220251 Reply

      zero2dash
      AskWoody Lounger

      All set here.
      SAC, 120 day feature deferral, 14 day quality deferral.
      My 1709’s continue to be rock solid, and I expect they’ll continue to be.
      My 1703’s just upgraded to 1709 last week (under the 120 day deferral) so I expect to be good for another 4-5 months at least before they go to 1803 which by that time will be mature.

      I’ll continue watching from the sidelines on 1809 but I don’t see much to get excited over there (same as with 1709 and 1803, TBH). At work we’re on 1803 and haven’t had any issues AFAIK but I still want to give it time in the incubator before adopting it at home where I’d rather use my machines than reimage them. 🙂

    • #220264 Reply

      anonymous

      Is there a way to get Windows 10 to block itself?

      Please stay on topic

      • #220271 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        There’s a way to block forced Win10 upgrades that works most of the time (except when Microsoft has an “oops” moment, which happened three times in the past year).

        Is that what you’re asking?

        • #220340 Reply

          JCCWsusser
          AskWoody Lounger

          There’s a way to block forced Win10 upgrades that works most of the time (except when Microsoft has an “oops” moment, which happened three times in the past year).

          I’m glad you put “oops” in quotes. I might believe it was a mistake once.

    • #220272 Reply

      anonymous

      Don’t worry-I’ll block that update the moment it releases and double check stuff. I mean I just updated to 1803 in August or that, I WILL NOT BE FORCED TO UPDATE so soon. I know-Don’t go to WIndows Updates, use WUShowhide to hide the updates, keep an eye out for any forced update because you only get it when windows/mircosoft determines if your computer is ready.

      I know the drill and I AM SET TO COMBAT THIS evil new threat to the WIndows 10 world!:Saluting to Woody.:

    • #220275 Reply

      Zaphyrus
      AskWoody Lounger

      In the end I will stay with 1703 for a little bit maybe 1 or 2 months and then I will upgrade to 1803.

      Just someone who don't want Windows to mess with its computer.
    • #220288 Reply

      anonymous

      I’m not holding out much hope to be able to block 1809 in W10 home. Last time around 1803 got installed despite having metered connection set and 1803 hidden with wushowhide.

      • #220293 Reply

        Zaphyrus
        AskWoody Lounger

        each time you run Windows update, you should run Wushowhide first, feature updates likes to unhide themselves.

        Just someone who don't want Windows to mess with its computer.
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      • #220317 Reply

        santino
        AskWoody Lounger

        I wrote and use this script that should always work.

        If by any chance it doesn’t, PM me and I’ll fix it.

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        • #220458 Reply

          anonymous

          There needs to be a safety cover for the check for updates button. Additionally, people need to retrain themselves to not ever click it. Doing so allows Windows to ignore your download update settings and turns you in to a SEEKER.

          Windows will check once or twice a day for updates on its own and if the group policy settings (sorry windows home users, no soup for you) are set properly, you will only be advised of updates that have become available. Optionally, you are better off invoking windows update from the command line while tinkering with wushowhide. You should not be clicking on check for updates until you are absolutely sure what results are going to be returned. After you turn wu loose, it’s difficult to get it to stop.

    • #220555 Reply

      anonymous

      Link not updated yet?

    • #222050 Reply

      anonymous

      Hello, Woody. Found your article on ComputerWorld while researching ways to block automatic updates to Windows 10 1809, and led me here. I’m on Win10 1803 Home, and so far, I’ve done the things you mentioned, set up a metered connection and used wushowhide. However, I ran into a problem while running Wushowhide. When I choose hide updates in the tool, it comes back with zero results for any impending updates that I can hide. However, in my Windows Update Settings, it shows it last checked for an update on 3rd October, and two updates are pending install, but neither of them say the windows 10 feature update. I have not manually checked for updates at all, I never do. Is this because the feature update may have not rolled out to my computer yet? I’m not very well-versed in computer, but it’s imperative that I block the update for a few weeks, as the update has been running into several bugs, namely wiping out data, and I’d like to wait till Microsoft has fixed its bugs before updating. Hope you can help me out here! Thank you.

    • #223872 Reply

      cousinit99
      AskWoody Lounger

      One of my machines downloaded 1809 this morning, and is pending installation once I restart it.  This, even though I have Group Policy configured to defer feature updates.  I want to strangle somebody right now, and my outstretched arms are divining in the direction of Redmond.  There’s just no excuse for this!

      • #223876 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        Are you using WSUS. I assume Group Policy set on the workstation. What are the Server settings concerning feature updates?

    • #312939 Reply

      anonymous

      My machine (a Dell Inspiron) has twice gone into blue-screen loops (yesterday and three weeks ago) that I could only get out of by reinstalling Windows from a thumb drive with the downloaded installer, so I’m on 1809 involuntarily. Is there any way to go back to an older version?

      • #312948 Reply

        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        If an older version of W10 is available?
        The only thing I can think of is using: microsoft-windows-iso-download-tool from Heidoc.net for older versions of Windows assuming you have a valid product key to use for the device in question.

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    • #312960 Reply

      Seff
      AskWoody Plus

      How to absolutely, positively block the forced upgrade to Win10 1809?

      Stick with Windows 7!

      Show them who’s boss!

    • #312966 Reply

      mtheo
      AskWoody Lounger

      Just a heads-up: have successfully fended off this insult+injury so far on the Pro machines, using all the techniques here; on the one Home machine, by religiously keeping metered connection set and regularly running wushowhide.diagcab, I’ve managed to keep it at 1709.

      Until yesterday. I go to Windows Update settings and instead of seeing the long-avoided “Check for updates” button, I see “Checking for updates…” – MS has done me the favor of turning me into a Seeker without my permission. Immediately fire up wushowhide, which doesn’t come up for air for a couple of hours, and then responds with this little gift:wushowhide_DISABLED

      Oh joy, another line of defense eliminated. And, curiously, it’s waiting for a restart to install 1803, which somehow it’s managed to download anyway. The one saving grace is that it has been “Checking for updates” for about 20 hours, so apparently it’s at least pretending to respect my desire not to give them a blank check on my “metered” connection.

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      • #313005 Reply

        Lars220
        AskWoody Lounger

        mtheo, thanks for the ‘Heads Up’ about the wushowhide.diag tool / utility. Too bad it is no longer working for you. Microsoft keeps “Altering the Deal” = this is crazy ! As a suggestion, maybe the WUMT = Windows Update MiniTool might be able to HIDE the Feature Upgrade, also, maybe check out the WUMT Wrapper Script that does a lot more. Links at MajorGeeks:

        https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_update_minitool.html

        https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/wumt_wrapper_script.html

        is anyone else seeing the wushowhide no longer working? = scary …

        • #313015 Reply

          Microfix
          AskWoody MVP

          Or there is the further development of WUMT which is WuMgr and you can read about it here on askwoody:
          https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/windows-update-manager-wumgr/#post-216303

          Here is my take on wushowhide: why rely on something that MS has issued to control updates when they are trying to ram updates to your W10 device?
          It doesn’t make sense and I think it will catch people out if/when they decide to deactivate it.

          | W10 Pro x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 | Linux x64 Hybrids | XP Pro O/L
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          • #313073 Reply

            SteveTree
            AskWoody Lounger

            I’ve been using Wumgr for a few months and feel like I am back in charge of updating. However, I don’t fully that it stops Microsoft’s ‘sneaky’ updates and use Windows Update Blocker just to be sure. Broadly, after update, block and protect Service settings using update blocker. When it is time to update, run update blocker to switch on the service then run WuMgr, hiding and updating in accordance with your grouping and askwoody advice.

            Golden rules:Never forget to switch off update services and protect them with the update blocker. Never use Windows update.

             

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      • #313038 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        An FYI for others:

        I have run wushowhide on both 1803 and 1809 and it seems to be alive and well. Working as usual.

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      • #313186 Reply

        BobbyB
        AskWoody Lounger

        @mtheo as the other replies have noted you could always use WUMGR or WUMT that’s if wushowhide isn’t working for you although I have found it reliable. I moved on to WUMGR from WUMT a week or so ago both were set to Auto run on Logon. WUMT using the same trick caught the upgrade from 1709 to 1803 and I was able to block it, until I was ready for a clean install, always been a devotee of a clean install it negates a lot of problems from the previous Version, clean start you get decide what to keep and what not to install. Typically it’ll take a few hours to accomplish to the state were your happy again hence I don’t want to do that every 6 months or so, its a pain lol 😉 Anyway the image below is todays haul with 1809 “lurking in the wings” Point of fact its really too effective I had to update it from Nov’s to Dec’s Cumm update version as I had forgotten and hidden Dec’s , Oooop’s hope that gives you a few suggestions and helps a little. https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/windows-update-manager-wumgr/#post-309850

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    • #313003 Reply

      anonymous

      There is another way to kind of block all updates using a LGPO.  I am deploying it on my 27 Win10 machines we just bought.  I don’t have a domain, so I have to include it individually.  The downside is that if you go into settings and click check for updates, it will start downloading and installing all available updates immediately.  I will have to just make sure I don’t do that.

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