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  • Lots of little patches, but nothing that puts a dent in this month’s big bugs

    Posted on May 16th, 2018 at 08:10 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Then there’s the “upgrade privacy warning” patch that looks like more advertising, the bizarre “Surface – HIDClass 4/26/2018 12:00:00 AM – 3.3.206.0” driver for non-Surface machines, Spectre v2 microcode fixes for Win10 1803… and no Monthly Rollup Previews.

    Weird month.

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    This topic contains 22 replies, has 11 voices, and was last updated by  PKCano 13 hours, 53 minutes ago.

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    • #192647 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Then there’s the “upgrade privacy warning” patch that looks like more advertising, the bizarre “Surface – HIDClass 4/26/2018 12:00:00 AM – 3.3.206.0”
      [See the full post at: Lots of little patches, but nothing that puts a dent in this month’s big bugs]

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    • #192650 Reply

      anonymous

      I had the HID class update sometime last week, I thought it was because I had a MS mouse and keyboard. The mouse started acting weird afterwards which turned out to be unrelated but I did learn in the process that this update can’t be uninstalled.

      • #193143 Reply

        anonymous

        Looks like the HID class has just got a (more sensibly named) second update – “Microsoft – HIDClass – 5/14/2018 12:00:00 AM – 3.3.207.0”

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    • #192656 Reply

      geekdom
      AskWoody Lounger

      Peabody here.

      Offered May 15, 2018 and installed without issue:

      May 2018 Preview of the Quality Rollups for .NET Framework 3.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2, 4.7, and 4.7.1 for Windows 7 SP1 and Server 2008 R2 SP1 (KB 4103472)
      https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4103472/may-2018-preview-of-the-quality-rollups-for-net-framework-3-5-1-4-5-2

      Group G{ot backup} Win7|64-bit|SP1

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      • #192679 Reply

        Geo
        AskWoody Lounger

        I’m group A except I don’t install any ‘Previews” as a home user.  Not necessary for light home users.

        edit: removal of HTML

    • #192658 Reply

      anonymous

      That’s the problem with forced driver updates. I once had a Lenovo PS/2 keyboard driver forced on to a HP EliteBook 8540p by Windows 10.

    • #192675 Reply

      EP
      AskWoody Lounger

      looks like MS security advisory ADV180002 was updated on May 15 to mention the KB4100347 Intel microcode update for Win10 v1803. At least KB4100347 also include microcode updates for Ivy Bridge & Sandy Bridge CPUs, which the KB4090007, KB4091663, KB4091664 & KB4091666 updates have not yet covered (unless these patches get revised to include Ivy Bridge & Sandy Bridge CPUs).

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    • #192697 Reply

      WildBill
      AskWoody Lounger

      On Windows 8.1-x64, Group A… haven’t seen any Meltdown/Spectre microcode come through Windows Update yet. Unless it’s in the Microsoft Catalog & I have to manually download…

      Wild Bill Rides Again...

      • #192797 Reply

        anonymous

        You probably got it.  It was in one of those big rollups from last month ( I forget exactly which).  Use InSpectre to check.  I had to uninstall both the Quality Update and the Security Only update because it slowed down my computer too much.  Now I don’t have Meltdown or Spectre protection.  As Woody has said, there is no evidence of this malware in the wild.  My computer works as before, although the Windows Store is still slow loading, as I posted a while back.

        Windows 8.1 (although I’m writing this on Ubuntu).

         

    • #192726 Reply

      Larry53715
      AskWoody Lounger

      Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but here goes anyway.  I will be returning to a Windows 7 HP 64 bit machine that has not been updated since 10/2017.  What would be my best strategy for bringing   this PC up to date.  I was group B until then, but have switched to doing the monthly rollups on the PC I am typing on.  I will not know what WU will offer me for about 2 weeks.  I am leery of the March and May rollups.  Thanks

      • #192728 Reply

        PKCano
        AskWoody MVP

        You should wait until you see what you are offered through Windows Update. Most likely, two weeks from now, the May DEFCON will apply.

        The first thing you should do before you go online is set Windows Update to “Never check for updates” so you will have control of what is installed.

        If you are patching Group A Rollups, you will probably be offered the May Rollup. If the go-ahead to install it has not happened, you should hide the May Rollup so you will be offered the April Rollup. The important thing is what other patches you are offered, because that may dictate the install sequence.

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    • #192729 Reply

      jescott418
      AskWoody Lounger

      Long as were talking things that bug us. Why in the world when I install a HP printer that I automatically get their stupid Windows 10 app installed and then get nagged in notifications to use it? This is what really bugs me about Windows 10, everything tries to decide for you what you need. We get drivers we don’t want, apps will never use, and half baked updates we want to delay until they are finished baking. A definite recipe for disaster in a OS if you ask me. Which of course does happen to some of us occasionally with Windows 10. Grrr

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      • #192785 Reply

        anonymous

        Skype’s been doing the same thing for the last year or two.  It keeps telling me i should update to the new and improved system! that breaks.  So I roll back.  So it can then notify me that there’s a new Win10 version available!

        And there’s no option to remove the prompt…

    • #192749 Reply

      Jan K.
      AskWoody Lounger

      Weird month.

      Sounds like a perfectly normal month?

      Just reread the article and yep, nothing unusual there.

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    • #192771 Reply

      anonymous

      I have an Ivy Bridge Desktop, and a 3rd Generation Intel processor.
      In my basic IT knowledge, I ask:
      I’m not covered by this Spectre v2 microcode fixes (KB4100347).

      Jonh Paul

    • #192782 Reply

      anonymous

      Running Windows 10 Pro x64 v1709, last update April KB4093112 (and almost daily Defender Updates). Group A updater.

      Have Group Setting for Updates on 2, Semi-Annual Channel, Feature 365 days, Quality 21 days.

      Dont know when it started but just noticed if when I go to Settings>Update and Security>Windows Update  It shows *Some settings are managed by your organization.

      Settings screen also says “Will ask you to download updates ……..”

      The View configured update policies screen shows “Notify to download updates.”

      However; upon closing the Setting screen and then re-opening it, the Settings screen now shows “Will automatically download and install updates ……..” Even though everything else mentioned above remains the same.

      If I select the View configured update policies screen, it still shows “Notify to download Updates”, and if I select the back arrow (top left corner) and go back to the Settings screen, it will now show “Will ask you to download updates ……” once again.

      Close the Settings screen and the cycle starts over.  Anyone else notice this?  So what is the actual setting that Windows is using?

      • #192786 Reply

        PKCano
        AskWoody MVP

        Dont know when it started but just noticed if when I go to Settings>Update and Security>Windows Update It shows *Some settings are managed by your organization.

        You are seeing this because you changed some Group Policy settings from the default (Auto update = enabled, 2, for example)

        My settings screen doesn’t change. It shows “Notify to download updates.” If you read the Group Policy carefully it says “notify download/install” so when you click the download button it’s going to install as well.

        • #192795 Reply

          anonymous

          PK, I understand all of your comments.

          The issue is that, without changing any of my described settings, the Setting screen wording keeps changing from (in abbreviated wording)  “Will ask you to download updates ……” (which it has from day the day I set the Group Policy to 2) to “Will automatically download and install updates…….” (which is the standard wording before setting Group Policy to 2 – even though the GP is still set at 2), and then change back and forth.

          Seems as though whatever triggers the Setting page wording is receiving, then not receiving the indicator from the Group Policy setting of 2?

          My concern is what is being signaled to Microsoft regarding update status?

        • #193246 Reply

          anonymous

          You are seeing this because you changed some Group Policy settings from the default (Auto update = enabled, 2, for example)

          My settings screen doesn’t change. It shows “Notify to download updates.”

          PK, Are you running version 1709?  If not, could be something with just that version?

          • #193251 Reply

            PKCano
            AskWoody MVP

            Yes, I’m running 1709 (and two VMs with 1703, and 1 of Insider Preview)

      • #192835 Reply

        anonymous

        Just checked, and yes I am getting this odd behaviour too (win 10×64 1709 – gp set to notify only)

        • #192877 Reply

          anonymous

          OP here,

          That makes two of us.  Any others out there?  Pls check it out and report back. Could be an issue for PK, Woody, Susan to look into.

          Another way Microsoft is trying to circumvent our settings or inadvertant program error?

    • #192858 Reply

      radosuaf
      AskWoody Lounger

      Is KB4100347 a separate download? Don’t see it in WU…

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