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  • Microsoft apparently reinstates Meltdown/Spectre patches for some AMD processors

    Posted on January 11th, 2018 at 11:22 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Of course, predictably, nobody’s saying which ones are now back on the patch list.

    Computerworld Woody on Windows.

    Thx @MrBrian

    UPDATE: Just got this from JA:

    Just read your referenced article. Thank you! It explains to me why update KB4056894 fails on my laptop running Windows 7. You mentioned that it isn’t clear whether the AMD embargo includes Intel PCs with AMD video cards. FYI … Apparently it does. I have a Dell laptop with an Intel Core i7 processor, and an AMD Radeon HD 7670M graphics card. Once again, thanks for your informative article.

    Anybody else out there with AMD video cards that are getting the treatment – or drivers that are failing after installing this month’s security patches?

    UPDATE: Although it doesn’t explain which machines were yanked in the initial round, AMD CTO Mark Papermaster has posted some updated information:

    Microsoft is distributing patches for the majority of AMD systems now. We are working closely with them to correct an issue that paused the distribution of patches for some older AMD processors (AMD Opteron, Athlon and AMD Turion X2 Ultra families) earlier this week. We expect this issue to be corrected shortly and Microsoft should resume updates for these older processors by next week.

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    Home Forums Microsoft apparently reinstates Meltdown/Spectre patches for some AMD processors

    This topic contains 49 replies, has 17 voices, and was last updated by  MrBrian 4 days, 15 hours ago.

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    • #158517 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Of course, predictably, nobody’s saying which ones are now back on the patch list. Post coming in Computerworld. Thx @mrbrian
      [See the full post at: Microsoft apparently reinstates Meltdown/Spectre patches for some AMD processors]

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    • #158537 Reply

      radosuaf
      AskWoody Lounger

      Anybody got this?

      MSI H110 PC MATE * Intel Core i5-6402P * 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133 MHz * Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti D5 4G * Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD * Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD * Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD * DVD RW Lite-ON iHAS 124 * Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI * Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit PL
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      • #158545 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        Oh no. Not another one….

        Wait. Is that the October 3 driver? Something’s fishy.

        • This reply was modified 1 week, 1 day ago by  woody.
        • #158553 Reply

          radosuaf
          AskWoody Lounger

          Description in WU says: “Yesterday”. Catalog says Oct 3rd, 2016…

          MSI H110 PC MATE * Intel Core i5-6402P * 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133 MHz * Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti D5 4G * Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD * Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD * Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD * DVD RW Lite-ON iHAS 124 * Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI * Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit PL
        • #158579 Reply

          FakeNinja
          AskWoody Lounger

          What do you mean by “another one”? What are these strange intel updates? I also have a few of these in my Windows Update.

          • This reply was modified 1 week, 1 day ago by  FakeNinja.
      • #158561 Reply

        anonymous

        Yep I got it yesterday and hid it.

      • #158563 Reply

        BobbyB
        AskWoody Lounger

        Not yet, and not hidden either; Just did a check, got about 588.1Mb’s (inc Office 2010) of updates all dated this year alas 🙁

        • #158564 Reply

          radosuaf
          AskWoody Lounger

          I got 7 updates for my Office 2007 yesterday :).

          MSI H110 PC MATE * Intel Core i5-6402P * 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133 MHz * Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti D5 4G * Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD * Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD * Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD * DVD RW Lite-ON iHAS 124 * Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI * Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit PL
      • #158706 Reply

        Karlston
        AskWoody Lounger

        Yep, here too.

        It’s a driver offered by Windows Update so it gets the usual treatment… unchecked and hidden.

        Grunble time… here in Australia (and probably lots of other countries) that date is interpreted as 10th of March (dd/mm/yyyy), not October 3rd (mm/dd/yyyy).  And they want us to use Windows 10 S to educate our children… spleen vented… 🙂

        Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

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      • #158902 Reply

        bhen
        AskWoody Lounger

        As someone who had to deal with that update popping up on a W10 recently… I dislike that ‘update’ immensely. The people on 7/8.1 probably have an easier time dealing with that than people on 10.

        I probably made a mistake or two in the process, but I eventually just fresh started the computer and haven’t had it pop up in the weeks since then. I’m still sorta left to wonder why that update arrived for me a year after it really got attention on here and other places.

        It’s not like getting error 0x80070643 on KB4054517 causes it to start fetching that computer-wrecking junk out of confusion? It was something else in the process, I’m sure.

    • #158565 Reply

      Seff
      AskWoody Lounger

      I’m being offered KB4056894 again on my AMD Phenom II machine, this time it’s checked.

      • #158727 Reply

        anonymous

        Me too on my AMD FX. I installed it (after creating a restore point to prevent havoc) and everything is ok (as fas as now)

    • #158572 Reply

      byteme
      AskWoody Lounger

      I’m being offered KB4056894 (checked) on my Dell desktop with an Intel processor and an AMD Radeon HD 7570 video card.

      • #158589 Reply

        Seff
        AskWoody Lounger

        I’m also being offered that update on my Intel machine with an AMD Radeon graphics card, but then I always have been – it was never withdrawn unlike on my AMD Phenom II machine.

    • #158577 Reply

      PKCano
      AskWoody MVP

      On 1/10/2018 Microsoft released Security-only update KB4073576 for:

      Unbootable state for AMD devices in Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2

      Summary

      An update is available to fix the following issue that occurs after you install January 3, 2018—KB4056898 (Security-only update) or January 8, 2018—KB4056895 (Monthly Rollup):

      AMD devices fall into an unbootable state.

      See The Microsoft Support page.

      This update has been added to the Group B Knowledge Base AKB2000003.

      • This reply was modified 6 days, 18 hours ago by  PKCano.
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    • #158568 Reply

      anonymous

      I have an Intel CPU and AMD video card on Windows 7. Still haven’t received any security patches for January via Windows Update. Just checked again now, nothing shows up.

    • #158591 Reply

      anonymous

      Installed the recent update (KB4056894) on an old AMD C-50 and it booted up fine. I wasn’t too concerned about any performance issues as it’s not the quickest CPU but I was surprised the machine didn’t throw up upon reboot.

    • #158599 Reply

      anonymous

      Dell desktop with Win 7 Intel i7 processor and AMD Radeon HD 7770 video card … I’m being offered KB4056894 (checked) when I run windows update.

      Not running the update yet, but I’m confused as to why a GPU would be affected by the patch?  CPU could make sense as well a combined APU, but the GPU?

    • #158603 Reply

      anonymous

      Just read the following, as AMD looks to be releasing some CPU patches:

      https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/11/16880922/amd-spectre-firmware-updates-ryzen-epyc

      AMD is also revealing that its Radeon GPU architecture isn’t impacted by Meltdown or Spectre, simply because those GPUs “do not use speculative execution and thus are not susceptible to these threats.”

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    • #158647 Reply

      anonymous

      Windows Updates didn’t show up anything but the Flash player update on the Intel boxes here. Looks like they called off Patch Tuesday for smart folks… Don’t touch the button, don’t touch nuttin’, right?

      • #158654 Reply

        PKCano
        AskWoody MVP

        If your anti-virus program has not set the ALLOW Regkey to indicate it is compatible with the updates, the Rollup and the .NET patches will not show up in Windows Update.

        January Rollups are causing BSODs in computers with certain AMD processors. Microsoft has blocked the Rollups for those computers.

        • #158865 Reply

          anonymous

          It’s all Microsoft, no third-party stuff… The story is that folks better don’t touch the check-for-updates button and let Microsoft decide when it’s time to deploy those patches. Manually checking for updates triggers the update system to deliver each and everything, and the kitchen sink…

    • #158665 Reply

      Geo
      AskWoody Lounger

      This time 894 was checked.  Didn`t update yet.  Sempron 145.

    • #158666 Reply

      MrBrian
      AskWoody MVP

      From AMD’s statement (my bolding) “Microsoft is distributing patches for the majority of AMD systems now. We are working closely with them to correct an issue that paused the distribution of patches for some older AMD processors (AMD Opteron, Athlon and AMD Turion X2 Ultra families) earlier this week. We expect this issue to be corrected shortly and Microsoft should resume updates for these older processors by next week.”

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    • #158664 Reply

      anonymous

      I just got 894 again.  Win 7X64, Sempron 145, I use Microsoft Security essentials.  Didn`t  update, waiting for MS- defcon to change before updating.

    • #158688 Reply

      anonymous

      What is (Windows 10 1607) KB4049411 a Creator’s/Feature update related patch and not the Spectre patch for AMD systems?

      • #159372 Reply

        PKCano
        AskWoody MVP

        KB4049011 is the servicing stack for 1607

    • #158716 Reply

      anonymous

      Is there something wrong with the registration on this site? I registered two days ago but I have yet to receive a confirmation email along with a password. Any help would be appreciated.

      • #158719 Reply

        Kirsty
        AskWoody MVP

        No specific fault with registration that we know of; however, occasional problems can occur with emails (such as spam filters). As you did not mention your user name, I suggest you email Woody, who should be able to set/reset your password, to get you going.

        If you choose to reply with your username, we can check if the account is showing, as a first step (and it shouldn’t need to be published here!). Hopefully you’re on board without too much delay 🙂

        • #158734 Reply

          anonymous

          My username was Hopper15. Sorry I forgot to include it.

          • #158738 Reply

            PKCano
            AskWoody MVP

            Your user name is on the system. Woody has been notified and should send a password to your registered email address before too long.

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    • #158739 Reply

      anonymous

      Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water –

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-security-intel/intel-says-patches-can-cause-reboot-problems-in-old-chips-idUSKBN1F101X

       

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    • #158752 Reply

      Sailor
      AskWoody Lounger

      I got update KB4023057 for my Windows 10 1703.

    • #158793 Reply

      anonymous

      I tried replying to @radosuaf but got “Error establishing a database connection”.

      These Intel patches in Windows Update seem endless even when blocked. I had one marked “important” last month that I ignored on advice from the folks here and one optional called “Ports” recently. I unchecked both and they disappeared eventually. I usually hide them but they just come back.

      It makes me wonder how many people get stuck with these random patches due to having WU set to automatic.

    • #158874 Reply

      anonymous

      My dad’s (AMD processor) computer has tanked after the recent update this week.  Has anyone seen a solution for those machines?  Thanks!

      • #158880 Reply

        PKCano
        AskWoody MVP

        You may be able to boot from your Rescue Disk, go to System Restore, and restore to a point before the update.

    • #158925 Reply

      MrBrian
      AskWoody MVP

      Windows 7 has a fixed update available.

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    • #158938 Reply

      PKCano
      AskWoody MVP

      On 1/12/2018 Microsoft released Security-only update KB4073578 for:

      Unbootable state for AMD devices in Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1

      Summary

      An update is available to fix the following issue that occurs after you install January 3, 2018—KB4056897 (Security-only update) or January 4, 2018—KB4056894 (Monthly Rollup):

      AMD devices fall into an unbootable state.

      See Microsoft Support page

      This update has been added to the Group B Knowledge Base AKB2000003.

      • This reply was modified 1 week ago by  PKCano.
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      • This reply was modified 6 days, 18 hours ago by  PKCano.
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      • #158963 Reply

        DrBonzo
        AskWoody Lounger

        Is this – KB4078578 – an additional security only update or a replacement for KB4056897?

        I don’t believe I have any AMD chips in my computer, but there have been a couple reports of BSOD on Intel machines, so I’m wondering if I should install this new patch even though it’s strongly implied by MS that it’s for AMD chips.

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      • #159333 Reply

        anonymous

        Sorry for be being dense here, but how do you apply a patch to a computer that’s in an unbootable state?

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        • #159470 Reply

          MrBrian
          AskWoody MVP

          I think Microsoft’s intention is that affected users remove the bad update via methods already discussed, and then install the new update.

    • #158982 Reply

      anonymous

      Microsoft released two updates to fix the bug with older AMD CPUs, KB4073578 for Windows 7 and KB4073576 for Windows 8.1, but… nothing for Windows 10!

      So the bug is still present in Windows 10, and for the bad… Windows Update started to offering the Windows 10 cumulative update again in the affected AMD machines, and after reboot Windows stuck in Windows logo again! :S

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    • #159369 Reply

      bjm
      AskWoody Lounger

      What is (Windows 10 1607) KB4049411 a Creator’s/Feature update related patch and not the Spectre patch for AMD systems?

      same question:  What is KB4049411 on W10 1607

      • #159371 Reply

        PKCano
        AskWoody MVP

        You have a typo in the number
        KB4049011 is the servicing stack.

        • #159385 Reply

          anonymous

          I’m an the quoted anonymous person. Having rechecked wushowhide it does indeed list Update for Windows 10 Version 1607 for x64-based systems (KB4049411).

          The update number you for which have provided a correction is a November 2017 update described on the Windows update catalog site. Unfortunately there is no KB4049411 for download available on the update catalog site, therefore it does looks like another suspicious attempt at Microsoft ‘s shenanigans.

          • #159390 Reply

            PKCano
            AskWoody MVP

            You are so right about 4049411 not being listed in the Catalog or on the Software Update Services page. For some reason I had 4049011 (servicing stack) listed in my notes. ???

            • #159409 Reply

              anonymous

              I do apologize if that was gruff in tone, it looks as if somebody might have to install the thing or figure out how to separately download this package.

              According to more KB4049411 search results perhaps it is another way to get users to fumble and upgrade to the Version 1709 (Green Screen of Death Edition). Most of the results show that package to be related to installation failure error messages starting last November.

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      • #159432 Reply

        Hopper15
        AskWoody Lounger

        Microsoft released two updates to fix the bug with older AMD CPUs, KB4073578 for Windows 7 and KB4073576 for Windows 8.1, but… nothing for Windows 10! So the bug is still present in Windows 10, and for the bad… Windows Update started to offering the Windows 10 cumulative update again in the affected AMD machines, and after reboot Windows stuck in Windows logo again! :S

        I wonder if that’s going to be offered this Tuesday via WU.

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