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  • Patch Lady – Is 1803 really Semi-Annual?

    Posted on July 5th, 2018 at 14:44 Susan Bradley Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    So back on June 14, Microsoft said that 1803 was available to all and others (ZDnet/Mary Jo Foley for one) said that 1803 moved to the semi-annual channel.  Yet this page (which to be fair hasn’t been the most up to date and accurate about the release info) still says 1803 is Semi-annual targeted and has this cryptic footnote:

    (1) Windows 10, version 1803 designation has been updated to reflect the servicing option available in the operating system and to reflect existing deferral policies. We recommend organizations broadly deploy the latest version of Windows 10 when they are ready, and not wait until the “Targeted” designation has been removed.

    Several folks on the patchmanagement.org list have indicated that they too haven’t seen 1803 come down on a computer that has (remember it still has the old wording) Current branch for Business(*) and 0 day deferral.

    Historically the declaration of CB/the new Semi Annual would mean that it could be offered up not that it suddenly got shoved out to all machines.  Also in the past I’ve often been told that Microsoft still “throttles” updates during this period and dials it up more as the success rate goes up.  Often you’ll see a feature release suddenly get offered up right after a compat/dynamic update got released as they fixed some blocking “thing” in the background.  Which would be nice to know ahead of time that your system was or was not ready for the upgrade.

    In this day and age where my Doctor, my Dentist, and even Comcast texts me ahead of time when an appointment is coming up, it would be nice if there was some more positive process that let you know how well your machine was ready for feature releases.  It still feels too arbitrary and not intelligent enough.  My last 1709 experience, I had a small hard drive machine say to me that it would have no problem upgrading and then it barfed EVERY time until I attached an external USB hard drive.  Which reminds me I need to do that again as it’s still on 1709 and hasn’t gotten it’s 1803 update.

    So are you seeing 1803 on a Current Branch for Business(*) deferral machine?

    (*) I did it again, I called Current Branch for Business, Current Branch, sorry about that!

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    • #201626 Reply

      Susan Bradley
      AskWoody MVP

      So back on June 14, Microsoft said that 1803 was available to all and others (ZDnet/Mary Jo Foley for one) said that 1803 moved to the semi-annual cha
      [See the full post at: Patch Lady – Is 1803 really Semi-Annual?]

      Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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    • #201655 Reply

      anonymous

      Usualy, when a Feature Update is declared Semi-Annual Channel (Current Branch for Business), a new ISO is produced and available for download on Microsoft Volume Licensing web site and WSUS. We haven’t seen any of this yet.

      It looks like that when a Feature Update is made broadly available to all home users, it doesn’t automatically meen it’s declared Semi-Annual Channel.

      Francis

    • #201658 Reply

      Susan Bradley
      AskWoody MVP

      The following downloads are available for this edition:

      1. Windows 10 Enterprise, version 1607 (updated Nov ’16)
      2. Windows 10 Enterprise, version 1703 (updated July ’17)
      3. Windows 10 Enterprise, version 1709 (updated Dec ’17)
      4. Windows 10 Enterprise, version 1803 (updated June ’18)

      On VLSC with a release date of 7/2/2018

      Susan Bradley Patch Lady

    • #201661 Reply

      anonymous

      You’re right! I missed that. The last time I checked VLSC was last week.
      But still nothing new in WSUS as far as I can see.

      My bet is that they will declare it Semi-Annual Channel next tuesday (July 10th).

      Francis

    • #201675 Reply

      wdburt1
      AskWoody Lounger

      You wrote: “In this day and age where my Doctor, my Dentist, and even Comcast texts me ahead of time when an appointment is coming up, it would be nice if there was some more positive process that let you know how well your machine was ready for feature releases.”

      Yeah, it’s funny how, with all its tech prowess, M$ misses this.  Mute testimony to the company’s focus on its own needs vs. those of its customers.

       

      1 user thanked author for this post.
    • #201703 Reply

      AlexEiffel
      AskWoody MVP

      The way you describe it, it looks like you play Russian roulette using Windows Home. Maybe you will be one of those unlucky folks who will test that hardware combination that won’t work. I am glad I don’t run Windows Home on a laptop and I am not a procrastinating student that is working hard on his homework to submit the next day when Windows decides it is time for me to upgrade.

      It looks like Microsoft has announced plans to remove emphasis from these designations of SACT/SAC but they still enforce them for lack of something better while they think about something else.

    • #201741 Reply

      radosuaf
      AskWoody Lounger

      My mom just called me today that her computer “broke”. Shows blank screen after login… Guess that’s 1803 :). I used to block the prior updates and installed them when I was around, but didn’t manage this time :(.

      Oh well, we’ll see tomorrow… I’m a bit tempted to dig up my old Windows 7 DVD… Or pay out for W8.1.

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    • #201776 Reply

      anonymous

      Some possibly related information from an older; 05-31-2018, Windows IT Pro Blog post:

      https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Windows-IT-Pro-Blog/Windows-10-and-the-disappearing-SAC-T/ba-p/199747

      There is work underway to evolve the Windows Update for Business model, and have deferrals based on just one offset date. Once that happens, the SAC-T entry on the release information page will go away and you will just see two entries per year. This change will be communicated well in advance.

      Apparently the work underway is still  “evolving”,  maybe someday a notification will be given well in advance ?

    • #201792 Reply

      anonymous

      I just downloaded the latest ISO on VLSC and installed it in a VM. It is build 17134.112.

      I notice that the ISO file name is different when compared to the one I downloaded may 24th.

      In may:
      SW_DVD9_Win_Pro_Ent_Edu_N_10_1803_64BIT_French_-3_MLF_X21-82166.ISO

      Now:
      SW_DVD9_Win_Pro_Ent_Edu_N_10_1803_64BIT_French_-4_MLF_X21-87137.ISO

      They changed -3 for -4 and they changed the MLF numbrer.

      For previous releases, when they declared a release CBB, they added .1 to the version number in the ISO file name. For example, for release 1709, the CBB ISO file name was SW_DVD9_Win_Pro_10_1709.1_64BIT_French_Pro_Ent_EDU_N_MLF_X21-67530.ISO.

      Francis

    • #201795 Reply

      anonymous

      This might explain why they released a refreshed ISO:
      https://www.ronnipedersen.com/2018/06/12/windows-10-1803-winpeshl-ini-file-is-present-but-no-commands-were-successfully-launched/

      But I don’t think any Official Semi-Annual Channel ISO exist yet.

      We’ll see next patch tuesday if they will update the Windows 10 release information web page.

      Francis

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