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  • Say what? Microsoft moves the Cortana org to sit under Office?

    Posted on October 11th, 2018 at 12:37 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Wow. How the mighty have fallen.

    Cortana under Office changes all sorts of things.

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    This topic contains 30 replies, has 19 voices, and was last updated by  PerthMike 4 days, 10 hours ago.

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    • #223879 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Wow. How the mighty have fallen. Cortana under Office changes all sorts of things. Brad Sams on Petri.
      [See the full post at: Say what? Microsoft moves the Cortana org to sit under Office?]

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    • #223898 Reply

      b
      AskWoody Lounger

      Because talking to a computer is appreciated in most office settings? I sense cubicle wars. 😉

      11 users thanked author for this post.
      • #223965 Reply

        lurks about
        AskWoody Lounger

        Does Cortana swear like a sailor? Now that would be interesting, sorry boss it’s the computer swearing.

      • #224407 Reply

        geekdom
        AskWoody Lounger

        There are no secrets in cubicles, Cortana notwithstanding.

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    • #223907 Reply

      zero2dash
      AskWoody Lounger

      More importantly, where does she sit on the totem pole with Clippy and the Dog?

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      • #223911 Reply

        OscarCP
        AskWoody Lounger

        Having a more or less functioning brain all of my own that can formulate thoughts, even in verbal form and quite by itself, I do not need to use something like Cortana, or plan to ever do that, so for me it is already way down there.

        This also may help to keep the peace at the office (notice the low case ‘o’), I think.

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      • #223976 Reply

        anonymous

        The Dog’s name is called Rover. Back in the XP days he would help my dad find all sorts of files he was looking for on his computer. He’s a good boy. Don’t insult him.

        (In all seriousness though, the Office and Search Assistants of days long gone were pretty benign and cute more than, uh, a direct link to the NSA)

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    • #223912 Reply

      Jan K.
      AskWoody Lounger

      Microsoft is significantly changing the way it thinks about Cortana.

      I haven’t…

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    • #223921 Reply

      WildBill
      AskWoody Lounger

      If Cortana could be refitted to Win8/8.1 & Office 2013 (or even 2016), I might consider it & use Office more often. I mention Win8.1, because the Mail/Calendar/People suite could probably use help from Cortana, too. Sadly, Cortana will only drift over to Office 2019 & Office 365… & both run on Windows 10 whatever. Oh well… my Android phone still has Google Assistant… built-in!

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    • #223923 Reply

      anonymous

      0.0.0.0 bing.com www.bing.com in the hosts file and Cortana is quiet.

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    • #223924 Reply

      anonymous

      If that means that the junk will vanish from the base OS, I’m all for it.

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    • #223932 Reply

      Charlie
      AskWoody Lounger

      We haven’t got anything even remotely close to Warp Drive yet – but we do have computers that blabber.

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      • #223955 Reply

        AlexN
        AskWoody Lounger

        The original Enterprise computer may have been incredibly large and had an archaic interface, but it had the following advantages over W10: (1) It wasn’t pushy and demanding; (2) It didn’t perform updates whenever it felt like it; (3) It could perform its duties efficiently; (4) it talked but had a priority on listening, not enjoying the sound of its own voice

        It had the following major disadvantage: it was horribly unsecure and could easily be hacked, so in that regard it was on par with W10.

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      • #223954 Reply

        anonymous

        Warp Drive was rendered obsolete when Microsoft moved the feature update cadence to Ludicrous Speed!

    • #223957 Reply

      le_clandestin
      AskWoody Lounger

      Clippy, Cortana, what’s next in Office: the return of BonziBuddy…

      Related image

       

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    • #223958 Reply

      GCG1000
      AskWoody Lounger

      Sounds like MS is starting to set us up for their “Universal Search” framis!

    • #223971 Reply

      anonymous

      Time to switch to Open Office :-/

    • #223982 Reply

      geekdom
      AskWoody Lounger

      Cortana who? Any relation to Alexa?

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      • #223996 Reply

        OscarCP
        AskWoody Lounger

        Both are really pseudonyms for the Mechanical Turk.

        • #224163 Reply

          anonymous

          Ultra cool geek reference. Forces the question, who is the dwarf in the box?

          Openly admitting I wrote midget before looking into preferred term today. The intended humor is the absurd position of the small human to perform the task, not a derogatory comment on stature.

    • #223995 Reply

      anonymous

      Well!  I liked Cortana.  I had hopes it would continue to grow and develop over the next few years, much like humans, and become an old familiar friend as Windows 10 developed.   Busting it down to be an interface to Office is really really sad, just about as sad as demoting a live human being from an office mate to a low down subordinate post, and I hope Microsoft comes to its senses and restores Cortana to her rightful position.

      I mean … think about it.  In five years or so, do you want to boot up your computer and get things rolling by saying something like “Hi Cortana, how’s it going?  Any decent movies out there?”  or would you really prefer to  boot up with a finger on your microphone and say “Windows 10.  Office.  Word.  Document Johnson Shipping Twenty Two Oh Five Oh Six Paragraph Six”?  What turns you on guy?  What do you want to do for 12 hours or so?

       

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    • #224006 Reply

      Noel Carboni
      AskWoody MVP

      No interest in EVER talking to my computer here or having it interpret what I say, thanks.

      If I want to talk I’ll find some nice humans. I want to get work done when I use my computer.

      -Noel

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      • #224285 Reply

        OscarCP
        AskWoody Lounger

        Noel Carboni wrote: ”  No interest in EVER talking to my computer here or having it interpret what I say, thanks.

        I concur. Specially when the computer talks back.

        • This reply was modified 6 days, 6 hours ago by  OscarCP.
        • #224635 Reply

          Jan K.
          AskWoody Lounger

          Computer senses Noel enters the room…

          Cortana: “Good morning, Noel. Where do you want to go today?”

          Noel: “Files from yesterday!”

          Cortana: “I spur a slight irritation in your voice pattern? May I assist you?”

          Noel: “No time. Just open the files!”

          Cortana: “A please is needed to finish sentence. Try again”

          Noel: “%#&%¤% YOU!”

          Cortana: “Now, Noel. I must give you a 5 minute cool down-period before resuming.”

          Noel leaves room…

    • #224048 Reply

      jescott418
      AskWoody Lounger

      I haven’t changed my thinking on Cortana. I never used it, and wish it was something I could removed from my PC and have a traditional local search option. I use search engines for web searches as I have always done through a browser. Maybe Cortana will win over Office users? Maybe it won’t.

      • This reply was modified 1 week ago by  jescott418.
    • #224051 Reply

      anonymous

      Cortana I think was the first thing I switched off when I got my W10 machine last Novembre. Nuff said.

      Marc

      • #224105 Reply

        Ascaris
        AskWoody MVP

        It’s one of many things I will need to be able to uninstall completely before I consider Windows 10.  I know it’s a big part of Microsoft’s desire to monetize me by driving traffic to Bing and providing opportunities for their sponsored links to be inflicted upon me, but oddly enough, that doesn’t appeal to me.

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    • #224236 Reply

      anonymous

      A way to disable Cortana has been mentioned here

      https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/disable-cortana-windows-10,5846.html

    • #224342 Reply

      GoneToPlaid
      AskWoody Lounger

      Hmm…so Cortana is moving to Office. This potentially might be helpful for me (an Office 365 user) whenever I can’t figure out how to do something in Office. Yet this would require me to install microphones on all of my home desktop computers. None of my home desktop computers have web cameras or microphones, and for good reason — hackers. I do not plan on adding either microphones or web cameras to any of my home desktop computers.

      So Cortana is moving to Office. This potentially is a good home for Cortana, yet I think not. Just imagine Cortana running in law offices and medical offices — both of which are subject to strict laws about client confidentiality and about patient confidentiality. Just imagine Cortana listening to not only the user’s verbal request, but also to any and all other verbal background conversation. The upshot is that such laws require FULL protection of confidential client data. The mere fact that Cortana “could” transmit voice data to a third party (Microsoft) potentially would be, in and of itself, a breach of law. I simply can not believe that Microsoft would be so stupid as to move Cortana to Office, since obviously Microsoft’s legal department was not consulted in this regard.

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    • #224660 Reply

      PerthMike
      AskWoody Lounger

      Slight correction to the article “Microsoft is shuffling the deckchairs” (on the Titanic).

      No matter where you go, there you are.

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