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Daily Archives: December 8, 2019

  • Chasing the elusive upgrade for Win10 Pro v1803

    Posted on December 8th, 2019 at 14:45 PKCano Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    I have been doing some testing on my Win10 Pro v1803 machine. I wanted to see if the pulldown deferral settings in the Windows Update GUI under Advanced Settings really work.

    My Win10 Pro v1803 Windows Update Settings are as follows:
    + In the GUI, Semi Annual Channel, Feature Update deferral=365, Quality Update deferral=0, NO Pause.
    + In Group Policy under Windows Update\Configure Automatic Updates=Enabled, value=2 (notify download/install)
    + Fully up-to-date 2019-11 CU KB4525237 Build 17134,1130
    + wushowhide shows NO available updates.
    + There are no pending updates in the queue and it is reported “Up to date”.
    + There is NO “Download and install now” section/link because the updates are deferred thus not available.

    1. Set deferral=230 days, rebooted, wushowhide shows Feature Update 1809 (2019-1113)
    2. Set deferral=200 days, rebooted, wushowhide shows Feature Update 1809
    3. Set deferral=180 days, rebooted, wushowhide shows Feature Update 1809
    4. Set deferral=150 days, rebooted, wushowhide shows Feature Update 1809
    5. Set deferral=120 days, rebooted, wushowhide shows Feature Update 1903
    6. Returning to deferral=365 days, rebooted, wushowhide shows NO available updates.

    + Perhaps the 180 deferral for v1903 is too large by the 60-day one-time extension MS allowed for the change in updating (eliminating SAC (Targeted).
    + Settings between 230 days and 150 days deferral make v1809 available in wushowhide
    + A setting of 120 days deferral make v1903 available in wushowhide.
    + Returning to 365 days deferral eliminated the availability of the upgrades.
    + I did not run “Check for updates” because I did not want to do the upgrade at this time and that would have initiated the download/install.
    + Because I did not wait for the system to check for updates on its own, there were no available Feature Updates, so I did not see the “Download and install now” section.

    Conclusion: The deferrals seem to be working as expected.

    NOTE: the deferral days listed here are as of Dec. 8, 2019. If you are upgrading at a later time, add the appropriate number of days to the deferral periods going forward from 12/8/2019.

  • Yes, there’s a crack to enable extended security updates on all Win7 machines. No, you shouldn’t count on it.

    Posted on December 8th, 2019 at 07:06 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Martin Binkmann on has some cracking news about the Win7 Extended Security Updates — the ability to install Win7 security patches from Microsoft after Win7 hits end of service in January:

    Someone discovered a way to enable Extended Security Updates on all machines running Microsoft’s Windows 7 operating system.

    That’s really big news for several reasons, but one point that intrigues me is that it offers hope for Win7 Home and Ultimate users that they might be able to get security patches after January.

    All in all, it’s a clever hack from some brilliant folks on My Digital Life that flips the proper bits to make any Win7 system pass Microsoft’s eligibility check for Extended Security Updates. We don’t yet have even one Extended Security Update, so it’s impossible to tell if it’ll work on the Real Thing.

    It’s also about 99.999% likely, in my opinion, that MS will plug the hole before January.

    That won’t keep people from trying, of course.

    Meanwhile, I’m sitting with bated breath, wondering if Susan and Amy will be able to find a way for normal people like me to pay $50 and get an extra year of security patches.