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  • How much junk will you get on a clean install of Win10 1903?

    Posted on April 29th, 2019 at 10:36 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Short answer: It’s a crap shoot.

    I posted a couple of weeks ago about the fine array of crapapps that appeared when I clean installed Win10 1903.

    Ends up that my install wasn’t exactly clean — I clean installed 1809 to a local account, went into the Release Preview Ring using an Insider account, installed the update (using a local account), then did one round of cumulative updates —  although at the time it was the best I could do.

    Since then, MS has released clean ISO versions to MSDN (which is now called MSDN Visual Studio Professional). They also released a test Enterprise version, which expires in 30 days, but I see the download links no longer work. Both of those clean copies are, uh, cleaner than the one I tested.

    Tero Alhonen installed a clean MSDN copy of Win10 Home and didn’t see the junk. Others have had different experiences. This from Martin Geuss:

    Paul Thurrott just went through the paces with Win10 Pro and got this:

    ‘Softie Michael Neihaus notes, quite correctly, that “Targeted apps can vary by region.”

    UPDATE: Michael clarifies, in reference to his post from a year ago:


    But you have to wonder… What will you see on your Start menu? If you sign in with a Microsoft Account, or upgrade from an older version of Windows, of course you’ll see vestiges of your old Start entries. With a Local account, if you install from Timbuktu I guess you’ll get Candy Crush Timbuk. My favorite is still “Seekers Notes: Hidden Mystery” in the Productivity section.

    I wonder if anybody at Microsoft has a more-or-less definitive answer? This is getting ridiculous. And 1903 isn’t that far away.