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  • Windows Cloud – on beyond Windows 10?

    Posted on February 4th, 2017 at 07:05 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge


    Günter Born has a very interesting post up this morning. He got his hands on a copy of Windows Cloud (possibly named “Windows 10 Cloud”?) and posted numerous screenshots.

    Brad Sams at petri.com and Mary Jo Foley at ZDNet have discussions as well. They’re worth reading, but they are heavy on speculation and short on details.

    It looks like Microsoft is creating a new, lighter version of Windows 10 that will go head-to-head with Chromebooks and ChromeOS. Based on warning messages inside the program, we know that Windows Cloud will only run programs from the Windows Store. And that’s about all we know.

    As befits a leaked alpha, there are all sorts of problems. Born has a few details:

    A freshly installed systems comes with desktop apps like Notepad, WordPad, Paint, Explorer and also Internet Explorer.

    (IE? Yes! IE!)

    Windows Cloud comes also with many well known apps from Windows 10, like Photos, Mail, Edge, Camera, Store, Maps, some apps to access Facebook, Twitter and other social networks. There is also a OneNote tile and a tile Get Office (Beta) – but I wasn’t able to launch the Get Office (Beta).

    Martin Brinkmann at gHacks adds:

    Some of these apps are first party applications or games, while others third-party applications. The selection includes Netflix, Facebook, Twitter, and on the games side Age of Empires Castle Siege, Asphalt 8, and Royal Revolt among others.

    Most don’t appear to be installed though, but merely links to the application’s Windows Store entry.

    That’s about it. By all accounts, even “Centennial” apps – the ones more-or-less automatically translated from Win32 to UWP – don’t work.

    We don’t know if it’s for Intel architecture or ARM architecture machines, or both. We don’t know how the Store is going to change to accommodate the new version (it couldn’t get much worse, eh?). We don’t even know when WinCloud will appear, how Microsoft will “monetize” it, what kind of effect it’ll have on Windows 10.

    But just about everybody agrees that the term “Cloud” is a red herring: It doesn’t appear to be any more “cloud”y that any other recent operating system. We’re looking at some sort of platform, likely based exclusively on WinRT, that at first glance has all of the appeal of Windows RT.

    You remember Windows RT, yes? It’s the version of Windows that doesn’t run, you know, Windows. Microsoft’s multi-million-dollar Scroogled campaign warned us about Windows RT, although it was ostensibly directed at Google. That was just a few years ago.

    Lipstick and personal trainer for a geriatric pig? Or a spry competitor for ChromeOS? Born took a look at the footprint, and found that WinCloud is three times as big as ChromeOS. Ooomph. He sums it up:

    Why should I buy a cheap system with a restricted Windows 10 Cloud OS, instead of a system with Windows 10 that is able to run also Win32 desktop apps? … The history of Windows RT shows that people don’t like restricted editions of a product, if they can have a fully functional edition. And if a user decided to buy a cheap system, why not a Chromebook with Chrome OS? There are a ton of apps and Chrome OS comes with a much smaller foot print.

    It’s going to be interesting.

  • Fresh ISOs of the latest Win10 Beta, build 15025, now available

    Posted on February 3rd, 2017 at 12:50 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    In anticipation of this weekend’s Bug Bash, Microsoft has released official copies (ISO files) of its latest Win10 version 1703, beta test version 15025.

    If you have a spare machine (or want to run it in a VM), download it here.

    If you find anything unexpected, let me know in the Lounge!

    (P.S. Yeah, the download’s taking for-e-ver.)

  • Wake on LAN support for Microsoft Surface

    Posted on February 1st, 2017 at 11:12 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    A new news post from AskWoody MVP @digitalmediaphile .

    The discussion continues on the Ask Microsoft Surface questions here forum.

  • Will Windows 10 Creators Update be Version 1703 or 1704?

    Posted on February 1st, 2017 at 08:10 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Günter Born has a blog post on Born’s Tech and Windows World that looks into the question. He comes down solidly in favor of 1703 – even if it isn’t released until April.

    Good stuff.


  • Windows 10 usage up slightly, Edge still floundering

    Posted on February 1st, 2017 at 07:16 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Usage numbers are in, and there’s some mildly good news for Win10 fans.

    InfoWorld Woody on Windows

  • New Windows 10 beta build is out

    Posted on January 27th, 2017 at 13:56 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Build 15019 (rs_prerelease) headed out the chute right now.

    Details from Dona Sarkar:


    New this build: Xbox gaming features; Game mode; and other gaming stuff that I generally ignore. Edge can read aloud any EPUB file, and there are new color emoji (be still my beating heart). The new Privacy Settings setup screen(s?) are included. Some change to the Microsoft Account sign-in sequence. And several more.

    If you’re in the Windows Insider Fast Ring, check Windows Update for the latest and make sure you read the release notes for known problems.

    If you aren’t in the Fast Ring, chill. I’ll have a roundup on Monday.

  • Lost Windows 7 key after forced Win10 upgrade

    Posted on January 21st, 2017 at 11:28 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Interesting question from KP:

    First of all, thanks for your Web site, it is my go-to site for all the latest Microsoft update shenanigans. My 80 year old father bought a HP PC from a guy who buys PC’s by the pallet from companies that are doing mass PC upgrades. This would be sometime in late 2015. It had been originally purchased with XP (XP OEM sticker on case) but had been upgraded to Win7 by the company prior to them replacing them.

    After about a year of perfect performance, my dad started getting the GWX message. I had not had the opportunity to load the GWX control panel tool. Long story short, He has a habit of leaving his PC running 24×7 and one morning he went into his office and winX had been installed on his machine. He was able to carefully navigate to the part of the screen where he could remove the winX and restore his Win7 OS. He told me later that the process took several hours to reinstall Win7. After the process, he had Win7 back but started getting the dreaded “this is not an official version of Windows 7” message. I used Belarc to try and recover a key that may be on his machine but all I get is an xxx-OEM-xxx key. When trying to reactivate, I used the same key shown by Belarc and still get the same “not official” key.

    This PC was running Win7 flawlessly for a year prior to the WinX upgrade attempt. Do you have any thoughts/advice on how we can straighten this out?

  • Microsoft pulls controversial “you gotta upgrade to Win10 from that bad, insecure, no good Win7” post

    Posted on January 19th, 2017 at 07:46 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Thanks to Günter Born, messager7777777, and Mary Jo for her spot-on TWiT rant.

    InfoWorld Woody on Windows.

    Interesting. Gordon Kelly just hit me on Twitter, to say that Microsoft hasn’t completely pulled the article – just moved it, to

    Windows 7 Support endet in drei Jahren

    There are differences between the two versions – and the date has been changed from the original Jan. 13 to Jan. 16. The post is credited to Irene Nadler in the original, and to Senior Product Marketing Manager MiladMSFT in the modified version.

    Several paragraphs were deleted from the original, including the ones that explain Vista and Office 2007 end of life, and the discussion of StatCounter results putting Win10 usage ahead of Win7, in German.

    UPDATE: And there’s yet another version, this one with a link provided by the Myce people, dated Jan. 17, once again credited to Irene Nadler:

    An early Goodbye to Windows 7! Support endet in drei Jahren


    So now we have Jan. 13, 16 and 17 versions attributed to MiladMSFT and Irene Nadler. Anybody got a scorecard?