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    • #2372157

      To get rid of KB4023057 from the WU queue, simply follow the instructions in AKB2000013. That has always worked for me when an update has snuck into the queue that shows up in WU for download and installation.

      Right – I did follow all of those steps (always do when hiding updates) and that KB is now in the wushowhide hidden list – has been there for more than a week – and it still is also showing on the WU list,  too.

      I have periodically hidden it when it resurfaces on the WU list – as it did this time. This is a new instance of it reappearing and then being hidden, and not dropping off of the WU list in more than a week.


      It isn’t in the Hide Updates list so that I could try to repeat the steps.

      I will check AKB2000016 but I’m pretty sure those are all right.


    • #2372086

      WU and wushowhide both use the Windows Update Service to scam for updates.

      The results of the WU scan is stored in a cache until the next time WU scans. So the list you see in WU does not change between scans, it is static.
      When you run wushowhide, what it shows is current, dynamic. If you hide updates, the hiding won’t be reflected in the WU queue cached list until the next time WU scans.
      The two lists are often different for that reason.

      If an update has been released after WU scans, it won’t show up in the WU queue until the next WU scan. But it could be seen by a wushowhide scan at that time.

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    • #2371382

      OK, some thing s you can get rid of (don’t leave them in the Recycle Bin):
      The SoftwareDistribution.2106 folder can be deleted.
      If you downloaded KB5003169 and KB5003244, you can delete those.
      There is no need for the 1909.reg file unless you want to edit it each time you want to upgrade (change the name also).
      Keep wushowhide at your fingertips.

      Where to go next:
      You have a choice to upgrade to v2004, v20H2, or v21H1.
      All three versions have the same base, get the same updates.
      The big download/install part will be the same no matter which version you choose.
      The difference between them is which Experience Pack is turned on, so once you have the base, the move from 2004 -> 20H2 -> 21H1 is minor if it does not include a monthly CU (ie, the current install is up to date)

      To move to the version of your choice at this time is simply to change the version number in the .reg file, then run it to set TRV. It will overwrite the previous Registry settings and hold you on the version of your choice until you again change the number. You can copy the above code to a .txt file in Notepad, edit the number and save it as a nnnn.reg file.
      I would suggest moving to v2004 or v20H2 – leave 21H1 alone for a while.
      Be sure Pause is turned OFF and Metered Connections are turned ON when you use the .reg file. The Feature update should show up in  wushowhide and WU. Be sure there are no surprises there also (hide them) then turn off Metered. Don’t rush things, wait for the upgrade to show up on its own.

      To control Windows Update in Home, you can use a combination of Pause and Metered connections. You have seen how to do this in the above exercise. Use Pause (remember, you won’t see updates while it’s in place). When you get ready to update, set Metered ON and turn Pause OFF, use wushowhide to hide updates, clear the WU cache to reflect the hiding (remember what you see is whet you get), then turn off Metered to update. Disconnect/reconnect the Internet at the appropriate times.

      If you have the $100, buying a Pro license and using Group Policy makes life a lot easier. You should read through AKB2000016.

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    • #2371274

      Under Advanced options, everything should be OFF except possibley “Updates for other MS products.”

      You must have missed this part. You ran wushowhide, but the results were useless if you had Pause in place. So now, we have to get update scans working to test our results.
      Read this whole post before you start. There are several “if-then’s.”

      To update v1909 to the 2021-06 updates (Build 18363.1556) you need the 2021-06 CU KB5003169 and the 2021-06 SSU KB5003244 installed. If the update is done through WU, you will not see the SSU listed in the update queue or History, only in Installed Updates after the fact. You will only see it if a manual update is required.

      + Be sure you have Metered Connections in place. Hopefully that will prevent downloads when Pause is ended.
      + Download the 1909.zip file (attached) and unzip it on the Desktop. Right click on the 1909.txt and change the name to 1909.reg  We are going to use this to hold v1909 when we release Pause, so you don’t get upgraded to v21H1. It will create 2 keys in the Registry equivalent to Target Release Version (TRV) that is set with Group Policy (that you don’t have). To see what is being done, read through #2286499 in AKB2000016. The last screenshot is of the Registry settings. As soon as we’re through updating v1909 to May CU, we will change the version number here to match the upgrade version.
      The contents should look like this:

      Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

      Double click on 1909.reg file and give the necessary permissions. If you are familiar with the Registry, you can verify the setting. (regedit in the searchbox) Even though v1909 is EOL, hopefully MS will respect this.
      Restart the computer and give it 5 min to complete startup.

      + Remove Pause. This is necessary to make update scanning work. Disconnect from the Internet. In the Settings App, Windows Update\Advanced options move the setting to the earliest date (tomorrow?). On the main Windows Update page, click “Resume updates” – this should initiate an immediate scan for updates which will fail with “Retry” because you are disconnected from the Internet. Once it fails, close the Settings App and reconnect to the Internet. Immediately run wushowhide.
      + Run wushowhide and HIDE any updates you don’t want. Check the boxes under “Hide updates” for drivers, KB4023057, any Feature update, etc. Do you see 2021-05 CU KB5003169? That is the one we want to try to install. If so, leave it unchecked and continue wushowhide until it tells you it has hidden the updates you checked.
      Run wushowhide again and verify there are no updates you don’t want under “Hide updates.”
      + There are several possible scenarios: Disconnect from the Internet again. Open Windows Update.
      1. If it is still sitting on “Retry,” click “Retry” and it should initiate a scan (not a download). If so, immediately reconnect to the Internet. The WU queue should be refreshed and the hidden updates should be missing. If that is the case, remove the Metered connection and let it attempt the update.
      2. If there is a list of updates in the WU queue, including the ones you hid, we need to initiate a scan. On the main WU page, click “Pause” once, then immediately click “Resume updates” above. That should initiate a rescan (the list should not include hidden updates). If the scan starts, immediately reconnect to the Internet. The WU queue should be refreshed and the hidden updates should be missing. If that is the case, remove the Metered connection and let it attempt the update.
      3. If there are no updates in the WU queue, we need to initiate a scan. On the main WU page, click “Pause” once, then immediately click “Resume updates” above. That should initiate a rescan (the list should not include hidden updates). If the scan starts, immediately reconnect to the Internet. The WU queue should be refreshed and the hidden updates should be missing. If that is the case, remove the Metered connection and let it attempt the update.

      + If no updates show up with the above steps, lets try manual installation. Reconnect to the Internet with Metered Connections ON if you are not connected.
      From the MS Catalog, Download the May SSU KB5003244 and the CU KB5003169. to the Desktop or a folder on the Desktop. Install the SSU first by doubleclicking on it, then the CU. The install order is important. You do not have to reboot between the two.
      Restart the computer.

      If any of the update scenarios is successful, then we move to an upgrade. Keep your fingers crossed.

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    • #2371196

      Just to get the terminology correct:
      I believe you have Win10 Home. DEFER updates is not available to Win10 Home. DEFER updates is a term used in Group Policy, only available to Win10 Pro/Ent to refer to delaying (putting off, postponing) updates. Deferral starts when the update is released by MS and lasts for the number of days set (0-30). Once set, you do not have to change it, it starts by default, automatically, on the date an update(s) is issued.

      What is available to all Editions of Win10 is PAUSE. In Windows Update you can set PAUSE in 7-day increments (up to 35 days) on the main page, or, Under “Advanced settings,” you can set a calendar date. PAUSE begins when you set it, and is not dependent on the update release date. You have to install the pending updates at the end of the Pause period before you can use it again, and it has to be renewed/reinitiated after the installation.

      Updates do not show up in Windows Update as long as Deferral or Pause are in effect. It essentially blocks Windows Update scans.

      Windows Update and wushowhide both use the same Windows Update Service to scan for updates. So if a Pause or Deferral is in effect, neither will see updates until the delay ends.
      The difference between WU and wushowhide is this:
      Windows Update scans on a schedule. The results of the scan are stored in a cache until the next scan. It is this cache that you see in the list in WU. It is STATIC between scans.
      wushowhide, on the other hand, scans when you run it. So the list of updates it sees is current, DYNAMIC.
      Here’s the rub. It is the static list in the WU cache that will get installed (what you see is what you get). So if you HIDE updates with wushowhide, you have to wait till the WU cache is refreshed (WU runs its next scheduled scan or you induce a scan) before the WU list reflects the hiding you have done. You have wait, because if you get in a hurry, your hiding is for naught.

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    • #2371100

      When you finish the above steps:

      If you do not have wushowhide.diagcab – download it from OlderGeeks (linked) or MajorGeeks and place it on your desktop. This will allow you to HIDE updates you don’t want to install.

      In the taskbar searchbox, type winver and hit Enter. Tell me the Edition (Home or Pro), version and Build number.

      Next steps will be to see if we did any good.

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    • #2369262

      Thanks to @Tom-R, too 🙂

      To @quiscit:
      In Nov 2020, made a post at Update in both places in wushowhide, because wushowhide was showing an update in both “Hide updates” and “Show hidden updates”. There were replies to use WUMgr instead. And after that I had a number of questions about how WuMgr worked. You might want to read some of the posts there, including @Tom-R’s first post of his “Using WUMgr to Update a Windows 10 System ” at #2310864, after which he answered a number a questions I had about it.

    • #2369097

      For Win10 Pro, there are Group Policy settings you can set and forget. I look at mine once a month when it’s time to update.
      The settings are explained in AKB2000016 Guide to Windows Update Settings for Win10. Section 1 is General. Section 2, although about Win10 Home has some further descriptions. Sections 3-5 are about versions 1909 and later. There are screenshots at the bottom to show where the setting are.

      I do NOT use Pause AT ALL – it takes too much time and attention. The GP setting of “2” (notify download/install) keeps the updates from downloading until you click the “Download” button, and wushowhide.diagcab gives you the ability to hide updates you may not want.

    • #2367276

      The “2” setting will cause the updates to wait in the queue until you click the “Download” button – that is correct. Read about wushowhide.diagcab also (download link in AKB2000016). If there are updates you don’t want, you can HIDE them so they don’t install, but they must be cleared from the queue before you download.

      “Select when Preview Builds and Feature Updates are received” = Enabled.

      Selecting Semi Annual Channeldeferring Feature Updates to 1 days

      Select when Quality Updates are received” = Enabled, and deferral = 1 days( from what i read can also leave this whole setting not configured)

      Using these Enabled keeps you from getting Previews. They are deferrals. Set them to 0 or 1. Setting them to 0 will result in the updates showing up in the queue on Patch Tuesday when they are released. If you set them to 1, the updates won’t show up until the next day (deferred 1 day).

      When you want to change versions, the only thing you need to change is the TRV. The other settings remain the same.

      FYI So you don’t get surprised. What you see in the WU queue is what will install. If you HIDE updates with wushowhide, you need to clear them from the queue before downloading. AKB2000013 deals with this. Also read @Matador ‘s method further down the thread. When WU does its scheduled daily check for updates, the hidden ones will also be cleared.

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    • #2365503

      Download the free portable WUmgr.
      Run the tool and check for updates (from inside the tool).
      Hide updates you don’t want.
      Run check for updates again.
      Install updates (from inside the tool).


    • #2362649

      I never used wushowhide to “hide” the driver updates.

      Windows Update has now run again.  No driver updates are offered and the system is up to date.

      Running wushowhide and clicking on Hide updates will enumerate the drivers updates that were never installed and are not offered through Windows Update due to group policy.

      I don’t think its necessary to use wushowhide to “hide” them.

      Thanks again for your comments and suggestions.

    • #2360455

      Also – a wushowhide question about those Realtek updates I mentioned above. Three – actually 2 – one is there twice – are showing in wushowhide as available to be hidden – but those same ones are also showing on the already hidden list. So which will actually take precedence – the ones that are hidden or the ones that aren’t?  They look the same to me

      I wrote about the unreliable wushowhide .

      Just use WUmgr or Wumt to hide/un-hide updates.

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    • #2356673

      Hey Susan, PK,
      I hace my updates for March paused until April 12 (tomorrow), and I can’t use the advanced option to push the resume date further out. I want to wait and just install the April updates (after you guys give the go-ahead), rather than risk getting the March updates.

      I’m on Win 10 v 2004 (build 19041.804) Home; I always leave metered connection on unless allowing updates. I also and use WUShowHide to hide updates.

      Can you confirm if the old trick of flicking wifi on/off (using airplane mode) will work (after hitting the resume button) so I can revise the paused date to a later date?

    • #2356642

      Viewing Microsoft Show or Hide Updates Troubleshooter (wushowhide) – OlderGeeks.com Freeware Downloads Use that tool to hide it.

      Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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    • #2354907

      wushowhide or WuMgr will let you hide updates, but if the update is re-released by MS it will turn up in your queue again.
      Easiest to leave Edge installed but not use it

      cheers, Paul

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