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  • 1909 > 2004 Feature Update Notification ‘Blocking’ Optional Updates?

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      • #2282428 Reply
        howardagoldberg
        AskWoody Plus

        Seeking the wisdom of the group:

        First, yes I am one of those who normally clicks ‘check for updates’ within 24 hours of updates being offered. That being said …

        I am currently on version 1909 18363.959 (64-bit).

        Yesterday, Microsoft released their preview/optional update for 1909 which would bring the version up to 18363.997.

        According to Microsoft, the update should be available by checking for updates > “Go to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update. In the Optional updates available area, you’ll find the link to download and install the update.” (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4559004)

        However, when going to Windows Updates, clicking on ‘Check for Updates’ (which I’ve done several times last night at this morning, including a fast shut down and full restart between attempts), what I see is that I am up-to-date and that the 2004 feature update is (still) incoming.

        Is the feature update incoming notification causing the ‘optional updates’ section to not display? Is anyone else seeing this?

        I know I can download the update manually, but prefer not to do that.

        Thoughts? Suggestions?

        Thanks!

        P.S. There was also a .NET preview that was released yesterday. That update was pulled down and installed immediately after hitting ‘check for updates’ last evening. I do not recall seeing an ‘optional updates’ section at that time, but I must allow for the possibility it was there before the required reboot for the .NET update, and then disappeared. So, I don’t think WU is broken, per se …

        WU-072220-0910

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        howardagoldberg
        AskWoody Plus

        Quick update: Just saw Woody’s post > https://www.askwoody.com/2020/microsoft-releases-some-optional-non-security-c-d-week-patches-avoid-them/

        He is saying that he is not seeing these optional updates offered via Windows Update as well. Is MS doing some kind of controlled roll-out for the release of the optional updates to test for issues? I don’t recall that happening for optional updates in the past.

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      • #2282438 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        For a reference see AKB2000016.
        Section 1 is general information and definitions.

        If you have Win10 Home, Section 2 should apply. You can try to use wushowhide hide the Feature Updates (version upgrades). I do not have Home, so I have not tested this. But if it works, the Previews should show in the Optional “download and install now” link.

        If you have Win10 Pro v1909, Sections 3 & 4 should apply.
        If you defer Feature Updates (version upgrades) to a large number of days, that will keep the next version from being available and you can use “Search for updates” or the Optional “download and install now” link to make the Previews available. Realize that will negate the “2” setting b/c “Check for updates” provides immediate download/install.

        There are screenshots below the sections for reference.

         

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        • #2282456 Reply
          howardagoldberg
          AskWoody Plus

          @PKCano, thanks for the reply.

          I don’t think this applies to me. I have Pro, and no deferrals have been set. In fact, I have never changed the settings of WU from their defaults.

          Previous preview updates, etc. always came down as expected on the day of their release. My concern/theory is that the feature update notification (see the screenshot I attached) is somehow hiding the ‘optional updates’ section?

          But then Woody stated in his article today that he has not seen these updates show up on his machine(s) either.

          (And again, the .NET optional update came down and installed last night, so that deepens my curiosity.)

          • #2282461 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            Using those instructions, you can move the Feature Update out of the picture to be sure it is not blocking the Previews. That would apply to what you asked about the Feature Updates blocking them.

          • #2282524 Reply
            Alex5723
            AskWoody Plus

            I don’t think that incompatibility of 2004 with your PC has anything to do with missing preview 1909 updates.
            You can download them directly from Microsoft’s catalog.

            July 2020 Patch Tuesday

      • #2282604 Reply
        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP

        The “optional updates” section applies only to feature updates and preview cumulative updates

        .NET and Flash updates are pushed whenever you click check for updates

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        • #2282618 Reply
          KYKaren
          AskWoody Plus

          The “optional updates” section applies only to feature updates and preview cumulative updates

          I am Win10/Pro, 1909. The “Windows 10 May 2020 Update is on its way.” announcement has just now disappeared from my WU screen. I presume this means that my device is now ready for 2004. However, I don’t want it right now and I have Feature Deferrals set to 365.

          Since Feature Deferral not only applies to Features updates (to version 2004, for example) BUT ALSO to preview Cumulative updates (to week ‘C’ KB4559004, for example), how does one get KB4559004 offered AND NOT get 2004 offered?

          Offline: Win7Pro ∙ SP1 ∙ x64
          Online: Win10Pro ∙ 1909.18363 ∙ x64 ∙ i7-6500U ∙ RAM 12GB ∙ SSD ∙ Firefox ∙ McAfee Internet Security ∙ Windows Defender
          Online: Win10Pro ∙ 1909.18363 ∙ x64 ∙ i7-8565U ∙ RAM 16GB ∙ SSD ∙ Firefox ∙ McAfee Internet Security ∙ Windows Defender

      • #2282629 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        how does one get KB4559004 offered

        One downloads directly from Microsoft’s catalog.

        https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4559004

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