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  • 2 versions of firefox

    Posted on DriftyDonN Comment on the AskWoody Lounge
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    This topic contains 18 replies, has 10 voices, and was last updated by  Ascaris 1 month, 1 week ago.

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    • #2016992 Reply

      DriftyDonN
      AskWoody Plus

      2 versions of ff?
      why do I have 2 versions of ff in  control panel program uninstall area? Can I remove the oldest?

      Thank you!

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    • #2017096 Reply

      anonymous

      ? says:

      DrifyDonN,

      i’m waiting fot the Defcon rating to come up on Firefox 71. Woody has alluded to problems with it reported by g.born on 12-04. which version does your “Help” about Firefox show when you are using it? if it is working well then maybe consider removing the version you are not on? you can see Charlie’s post on “Firefox 71.0-is it safe or not?” for links to the problem(s) it is\was having…

    • #2017134 Reply

      Charlie
      AskWoody Plus

      If Firefox 71 is working okay for you on this computer then that’s the one you should keep.  I’m not sure how or why you’ve got the older 66.0.3 still listed but it probably should be uninstalled.  Also, before doing anything else, bring up Firefox, click on Help, and then click on About Firefox to get the actual version that’s running.

      Win 7 Still Alive, x64, Intel i3-2120 3.3GHz, Groups B & L

    • #2017162 Reply

      DriftyDonN
      AskWoody Plus

      Firefox version reports ver 71 firefox for Acer.
      Didnt know mozilla made versions for specific OEM.
      Ver 71 seeems to beworking ok …no issues …yet.
      Will wait a bit and see!. I just upgraded to win10 pro ver 1903 via ISO from win10 pro ver 1809
      cant wait til tomorrow to see what m$ft sent me….like it or not.
      Thanks folks!

      • #2017725 Reply

        Ascaris
        AskWoody_MVP

        Didnt know mozilla made versions for specific OEM.

        They don’t, as far as I know, but Firefox is open source, so any OEM (or individual!) can take the code, modify it if they wish, compile it (perhaps with different options than the official Firefox build), and distribute it.  It could be that Acer modified it in some way, perhaps using an Acer program updater, or it could just be a stock Firefox build with that message added in. If it was modified in some way, Acer would have had to get permission to use the Firefox branding, and it would be up to Mozilla to decide whether the changes were acceptable for a Firefox-branded product or not.

        Debian, the Linux distro that is the basis for Ubuntu, Mint, and many others, is fanatical about making sure that there’s no copyrighted content in their repos.  They initially had gotten permission, as far as I know, to distribute Firefox with the copyrighted art and logos removed, but Mozilla apparently changed its mind and decided that without the Firefox branding, it would not be acceptable to call it Firefox anymore.  The name of the Debian branch was changed to IceWeasel, and eventually IceCat.

        Group "L" (KDE Neon User Edition 5.17.5).

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    • #2017178 Reply

      Bundaburra
      AskWoody Plus

      Firefox is installed into C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox.  In there you will find the executable, Firefox.exe, and there can only be one of them in that location.  Run a search on your C drive, looking for all occurrences of Firefox.exe.  If you find one in another location, it should be safe enough to delete it.  More likely you will not find another one, in which case  your entry for 66.0.3 is probably just some kind of a leftover from when you updated 66.0.3 to the next version.  Possibly an orphaned registry entry, or similar, but again it should be safe enough to delete it.  As a precaution, you could first download the version 71 installer from Mozilla, and then install it over the top of what you already have if there any problems.

      Windows 10 Pro 64 bit 1909

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    • #2017311 Reply

      anonymous

      Funny, 2 days ago I noticed the same thing, except instead of Firefox, there are 2 instances of both Opera and Vivaldi

    • #2017385 Reply

      ScotchJohn
      AskWoody Plus

      If you have a heavily customised FF installation, just don’t delete your Firefox profile, as you may have to recreate all your customisation from scratch.

      Dell E5570 Latitude, Intel Core i5 6440@2.60 GHz, 8.00 GB - Win 10 Pro

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      • #2017394 Reply

        Microfix
        Da Boss

        Another option:
        In situations like this, I only back up the prefs.js (in the FF profile folder, where all the customisations are held) and bookmarks and store elsewhere for re-introduction/import once ‘fresh/clean’ installation is done. Sometimes the profiles get screwed up in my experience. It will mean re-installing extensions which only costs a few minutes, and adjusting all the FF settings to your preference prior to importing bookmarks and overwritting existing prefs.js
        This method has worked flawlessly for me over many years. YMMV

        Win7 Pro x64 | Win8.1 Pro x64 | Linux Hybrids x86/x64 | W10 1909 x86 Pro
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        • #2017848 Reply

          Microfix
          Da Boss

          Any settings changed in FFox/Tbird from their default values, will be written to prefs.js in your FFox/TBird profile folder (right click and edit to view).
          Using about:config is pointless to see any changes made.

          Win7 Pro x64 | Win8.1 Pro x64 | Linux Hybrids x86/x64 | W10 1909 x86 Pro
    • #2018000 Reply

      anonymous

      Tor is likely the problem.

    • #2018256 Reply

      DriftyDonN
      AskWoody Plus

      2 versions of Firefox

      So, any info on the reason this thread was started?

       

      • #2018348 Reply

        satrow
        AskWoody MVP

        You haven’t given us any results of a search for Firefox.exe.

        My guess while we wait for further details is that both entries refer to the same folder because of some bug caused by one of the installers/updaters triggering an errant Registry entry (eg: a new one was added when it should have replaced the earlier one), it’s something I’ve seen before – if you do a simple (not full) uninstall of the older ‘version’ it will remove them both. Ignoring it is easiest.

        On the Tor comment above, almost certainly irrelevant as that should be installed on the Desktop and it doesn’t show in (add/remove) Programs list, uninstalling it consists of simply deleting the folder.

    • #2019361 Reply

      DriftyDonN
      AskWoody Plus

      You haven’t given us any results of a search for Firefox.exe.

      I totally missed that. Sorry!
      A search shows one file firefox.exe in c:\program files\mozilla firefox  as version66

      also another as you pointed out, on desktop in Tor folder.
      and…

      another found in c:\program files86\mozilla firefox…..ver 71!

      Everything seems to be working so if it’s not broken, don’t repair it!

      Again, thank you.

      • #2019362 Reply

        Kirsty
        Da Boss

        It would seem that you have both a 32-bit and 64-bit version, only one of which has been updated.

        Or… you have two 64-bit versions, one in each program folder, and only one updated?

        • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by  Kirsty.
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        • #2019488 Reply

          Arctic.Eddie
          AskWoody Lounger

          Don’t do it. I have uninstall links for 68.0.1 and 71.0 but both point to the latest version in AppData/Local, and the only installed version. Programs and Features show both links and claim I’ll save about the same amount of space, 170MB. There is only one link in the Start Menu aiming at 71.0. The two uninstall links are not in the same registry list but they will likely remove your latest version. The cause is probably a bug in the 68.0.1 updater.

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    • #2019688 Reply

      DriftyDonN
      AskWoody Plus

      Thanks all. I dont get why ff needs to update so often but then again I wouldnt need help if I did. My memory not being what it was when I wore a younger man’s clothes, I have to say I do not recall ever installing more than once on this machine. The changes all came about by auto check for updates (except of course Tor)

      Curioser and curiouser.

      Now to self I’m thinking what to backup that would make a reinstall easiest…. I dont have a lot of addons-5 I think and I already backup bookmarks..

      Peace n love

      • #2019689 Reply

        Kirsty
        Da Boss

        I dont get why ff needs to update so often

        Reading this may curl the hair explain why …
        Security Advisories for Firefox

        😉

        • #2019800 Reply

          Ascaris
          AskWoody_MVP

          Mozilla fixes security issues immediately without waiting for a major (full point) release, so they aren’t necessary for security updates.  The full point releases, though, are where new features are introduced (or, more likely, removed), leading some to ask (as with Windows 10) why it is necessary for so many feature updates.  The only apparent reason that Mozilla went to the 6-week release schedule was that they had just embarked on an ill-fated, years-long quest to copy Chrome, which already had a six-week rapid-release schedule.  Prior to that, Firefox had a traditional “release when it’s ready” release schedule.

          I have no idea why they wanted to go to a four-week schedule.

          Group "L" (KDE Neon User Edition 5.17.5).

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