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      PKCano
      Da Boss

      AKB2000014 Ongoing List of Apple Operating System Updates

      By @Nathan-Parker

      Published October 16 2019 rev 1.07

      This is a regularly updated list of Apple operating system updates (grouped by device), along with guidance in determining when it is recommended to install each update. Instructions on updating each device are also included.

      For users with multiple Apple devices (such as a Mac, iPhone, and iPad, etc.), I recommend waiting to install annual major operating system upgrades after Apple has released the major operating system upgrades for each device type. Occasionally, Apple will make major changes to how app data syncs across devices over iCloud, and waiting to upgrade devices after the major operating system upgrades have been released for each device type provides for the smoothest upgrade experience.

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      macOS

      macOS (formerly Mac OS X and OS X) is the operating system that powers Mac computers. Mac OS X Cheetah-OS X Lion installs operating system updates through Software Update in System Preferences. OS X Mountain Lion-macOS High Sierra installs operating system updates through the Mac App Store. macOS Mojave-Present has moved operating system update installs back through Software Update in System Preferences. Instructions for installing macOS updates can be found here.

      Major operating system upgrades for all future macOS releases are delivered through an installer downloaded from the Mac App Store (prior to OS X Lion, operating system upgrades were delivered through a DVD). Mac OS X Cheetah-OS X Mountain Lion named major operating system releases after large cats. OS X Mavericks to the present version of macOS are named after California locations. Major versions are released once a year.

      General recommendations for installing macOS upgrades:

      1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as macOS Catalina 10.15 in October), it is generally recommended to wait and install the upgrade after its first minor update is released (in this case, 10.15.1).
      2. When a minor update to a major operating system version is released (for Catalina, that would be 10.15.1, 10.15.2, 10.15.3, etc.), it is generally recommended to wait a few days after the update has been released before installing it to ensure no major issues have been noted. I generally install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my Mac is working as should from the update before the following week.
      3. When an update marked Supplemental Update or Security Update is released, it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally follow the same schedule and install such updates on the Friday after release. Some Security Updates are folded into minor updates instead of being released as separate updates.

      Current Latest Version: macOS Catalina 10.15 (October 7) WAIT FOR 10.15.1
      For those already on Catalina: macOSCatalina Supplemental Update (October 15) INSTALL

      Instructions for preparing to upgrade to macOS Catalina is available here.

      Previous Version: macOS Mojave 10.14.6  Supplemental Update 2 INSTALL

      Instructions for upgrading to macOS Mojave for users on High Sierra or earlier is available here.

      Previous Versions: macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 Security Update INSTALL

      Previous Versions: macOS Sierra 10.12.6 Security Update INSTALL

      A list of older previous versions of Mac OS X, OS X, and macOS is available here.

      Occasionally, certain Macs will also require a firmware update. These updates are usually included in a minor update or a Supplemental update. While firmware updates are generally safe to install (and Macs generally need the firmware update to resolve an issue), occasionally a firmware update can cause issues, so it is recommended to read up on firmware updates before installing them to ensure it is safe to proceed. This article provides general instructions concerning Mac firmware updates. The most common firmware updates have been SMC firmware updates.

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      iOS

      iOS (formerly iPhone OS until iOS 4) is the operating system that powers iPhones, iPod Touches, and iPads (up until iOS 12. iOS 13 offers a variant for iPads known as iPadOS). Updates can either be installed wirelessly using Software Update in Settings (iOS 5 or later), or through iTunes (in macOS Catalina, iTunes iOS device management is being replaced by device management through the Finder that will mirror the functionality of iTunes). Instructions for installing iOS updates are available here. Major versions are released once a year with successive version numbers.

      General recommendations for installing iOS updates:

      1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as iOS 13), it is generally recommended to wait and install the update after its first minor update is released (in most cases, that would be a 0.1 update such as iOS 13.0.1, but it seems for iOS 13, Apple is folding such updates into iOS 13.1).
      2. When a minor bug fix update is released (such as iOS 12.4.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my iOS devices are working as should from the update before the following week.
      3. When a minor feature update is released (such as iOS 12.4 or iOS 13.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my iOS devices are working as should from the update before the following week. I have occasionally encountered an issue with minor feature updates causing an issue I would need to self-resolve or need resolved in a successive minor bug fix update.

      Current Latest Version: iOS 13.1.3 INSTALL

      Previous Versions: iOS 13

      iOS 13 Device Compatibility is available here.

      iOS 12.4.2 INSTALL

      iOS 12 Device Compatibility is available here.

      Special Updates to Previous Versions:

      iOS 10.3.4 INSTALL

      iOS 9.3.6 INSTALL

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      iPadOS

      Beginning with iOS 13, Apple has released a variant for iPads known as iPadOS. Updates can either be installed wirelessly using Software Update in Settings, or through iTunes (in macOS Catalina, iTunes iOS device management is being replaced by device management through the Finder that will mirror the functionality of iTunes). Instructions for installing iPadOS updates are available here. Major versions are released once a year with successive version numbers.

      General recommendations for installing iPadOS updates:

      1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as iPadOS 13), it is generally recommended to wait and install the update after its first minor update is released (in most cases, that would be a 0.1 update such as iPadOS 13.0.1, but we are not sure how Apple is going to handle the first minor update to iPadOS 13 yet).
      2. When a minor bug fix update is released (such as iPadOS 13.0.1, if released), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my iPad is working as should from the update before the following week.
      3. When a minor feature update is released (such as iPadOS 13.1, if released), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my iPad is working as should from the update before the following week. I have occasionally encountered an issue with minor feature updates causing an issue I would need to self-resolve or have need resolved in a successive minor bug fix update.

      Current Latest Version: iPadOS 13.1.3  INSTALL

      iPadOS 13 Device Compatibility is available here.

      Previous Versions (still on previous iOS branding): iOS 12.4.2 INSTALL

      iOS 12 Device Compatibility is available here.

      Special Updates to Previous Versions:

      iOS 10.3.4 INSTALL

      iOS 9.3.6 INSTALL

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      watchOS

      watchOS is the operating system that powers Apple Watches. Updates can either be installed through the Watch app on a paired iPhone or wirelessly using Software Update in Settings (future updates installed after installing watchOS 6 or later). Instructions for installing watchOS updates are available here. Major versions are released once a year with successive version numbers.

      General recommendations for installing iOS updates:

      1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as watchOS 6), it is generally recommended to wait and install the update after its first minor update is released (such as watchOS 6.0.1).
      2. When a minor bug fix update is released (such as watchOS 6.0.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my Apple Watch working as should from the update before the following week.
      3. When a minor feature update is released (such as watchOS 6.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my Apple Watch working as should from the update before the following week.

      Current Latest Version: watchOS 6.0.1 CAUTION there are reported battery life issues, see MacRumors.

      watchOS 6 is currently available for Series 3-4; older models delayed.
      watchOS 5.3.2 is available for Series 4 connected to older iOS devices not receiving iOS 13 INSTALL

      Previous Versions: 5.3.2 (Apple Watch Series 1 and Series 2) INSTALL

      watchOS 5 (and later) isn’t compatible with first generation Apple Watch.

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      tvOS

      tvOS is the operating system that powers the fourth-generation Apple TV (Apple TV HD) and later (previous Apple TV models used custom Apple TV software based on a variant of iOS). Updates can be installed wirelessly using Software Update in Settings. Instructions for installing tvOS updates are available here. Major versions are released once a year with successive version numbers.

      General recommendations for installing tvOS updates:

      1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as tvOS 13), it is generally safe to install these shortly after release (as fewer issues tend to occur with Apple TV compared to other Apple devices). I generally install these on the Sunday after their release since I am generally watching some content on Apple TV over the weekend, and I initiate the update when I am finished watching content on Apple TV.
      2. When a minor bug fix update is released (such as tvOS 13.0.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after release. I generally install these on the Sunday after their release since I am generally watching some content on Apple TV over the weekend, and I initiate the update when I am finished watching content on Apple TV.
      3. When a minor feature update is released (such as tvOS 13.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after release. I generally install these on the Sunday after their release since I am generally watching some content on Apple TV over the weekend, and I initiate the update when I am finished watching content on Apple TV.

      Current Latest Version: tvOS 13 INSTALL

      Previous Version: tvOS 12.4.1

      Occasionally, the Siri remote on the fourth-generation Apple TV (Apple TV HD) or later will require a firmware update. These are generally handled automatically after tvOS updates, although occasionally it is recommended to check for these firmware updates manually. These instructions explain how to manually update the Siri remote firmware. Siri remote firmware updates are safe install shortly after release (and it is generally recommended they are installed shortly after release).

      Special Updates to Previous Versions:

      Apple TV Software 7.3.1 (for third generation Apple TV) INSTALL

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      AirPods
      The firmware on AirPods should update automatically, especially after iOS updates. However, occasionally it is recommended to check for these firmware updates manually. These instructions explain how to manually check AirPods firmware. AirPod firmware updates are safe install shortly after release (and it is generally recommended they are installed shortly after release).

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      HomePod

      The software on the HomePod should update automatically. However, occasionally it is recommended to install these software updates manually. These instructions explain how to manually update the software on the HomePod. HomePod software updates are likely safe to install shortly after release (as fewer issues tend to occur with the HomePod compared to other Apple devices).

      Future Major Upgrades: HomePod Software 13 (Coming Soon) LIKELY SAFE TO INSTALL

      Current Latest Version: HomePod Software 12.4 INSTALL

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      AirPort
      AirPort wireless routers have been discontinued by Apple. However, occasionally there has been a firmware update released for AirPort wireless routers. These firmware updates are generally installed automatically. However, here are the the instructions explaining how to manually update the firmware on AirPort wireless routers. Firmware updates should be installed shortly after release to improve the security and reliability of AirPort wireless routers.

      Due to the fact that Apple has discontinued AirPort wireless routers, users should slowly begin transitioning to another brand wireless router for security updates. I have personally had good experience with Cisco Small Business routers, and I have had excellent wireless performance with Cambium Networks business routers and wireless access points. I have also had decent wireless performance with Asus wireless routers.

      The latest firmware available for AirPort Extreme AC models is:

      7.9.1 INSTALL

      The latest firmware available for AirPort Express N models is:

      7.8 INSTALL

      A list of the latest firmware for older AirPort models is available here.

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      Security Updates
      Apple occasionally releases security updates for its various devices. These are generally included in major operating system upgrades or minor operating system updates. A list of all recent Apple security updates is available here.

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    • #1964657 Reply

      Microfix
      Da Boss

      NOTE: both iOS 9.3.6 and 10.3.4 GPS Fix for older tech

      Apple recommends all users with eligible devices install the new updates. Apple devices won’t be affected until November 3, 2019, so there should be plenty of time for users with affected iPhones and iPads to install the new software.

      quote from
      https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/22/apple-releases-gps-bug-fix-older-iphones-ipads/

      and from the horses mouthhttps://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210239

      My interpretation of this is that it needs to be done prior to November 3rd 2019 otherwise the GPS function will not work as intended thereafter.

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      • #1964752 Reply

        willygirl
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        I just updated a friend’s iPhone5 to 10.3.4 and it’s all good. Glad we have Apple on the AW forum. It’s going to help lots of folks.

        Win7 SP1 Home 64-bit, GrpA

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    • #1964836 Reply

      OscarCP
      AskWoody Plus

      Please, note the following, because it can be somewhat unnerving for those of us still getting to know our Macs and used to how Windows updates work:

      In my, admittedly rather limited experience, system updates, whether initial or incremental, take about the same, long time to install. Once the process starts by clicking “install”, it will go through a cycle where the machine actually seems to turn itself completely off several times, but then restarts showing the usual loader screen: black with a white apple in the middle and a loading bar under it. The bar sometimes does not move, or move backwards, or the screen goes all black again before it has extended fully. The whole process, until finally getting to a login screen a bit different from the usual one, takes some 20 minutes, give or take. After logging in, everything looks to be back to normal.

      With my thanks to PKCano for starting and taking care of this very timely new knowledge-base for the benefit of Mac users, and for writing its detailed opening entry. And for the good advice on when to install system updates (the same as for Windows upgrades and patches and except for rare emergencies: wait a while after they are first offered!)

      Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group B & macOS + Linux (Mint) => Win7 Group W(?) + Mac&Lx

      • #1964846 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        Let’s give Credit where Credit is due.
        If you will notice at the top, the credit goes to Nathan Parker for this Thread. It’s his knowledge that he put together for this very informative piece.

        I simply did the posting.

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        • #1964860 Reply

          willygirl
          AskWoody Plus

          Yep. I often let Nathan know how valuable his input and research/knowledge is for us with Apple devices and such. We are very lucky to have Mr. Parker aboard.

          Win7 SP1 Home 64-bit, GrpA

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        • #1964861 Reply

          OscarCP
          AskWoody Plus

          Yes, I’m afraid I missed that. So now I must make it even clearer that Nathan is behind this. He has been great help from his first coming to Woody’s as go-to Apple expert in residence, always quick to answer questions and give useful advice concerning the problems I and others may be having with the use of our Macs, iPhones, iPads, etc. As well as being a bringer of timely and useful information on new developments and changes concerning Apple products, both software and hardware. Doing all that while in the middle of his higher-degree studies and being active making informative videos. For that and for your ever gentle and unassuming manner: Thank you, Nathan!

          Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group B & macOS + Linux (Mint) => Win7 Group W(?) + Mac&Lx

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        • #1964993 Reply

          DrBonzo
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          Here’s a big thanks to Nathan Parker!

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    • #1964877 Reply

      anonymous

      I would DEFINITELY suggest waiting to update to ipadOS 13.1 – first time I’ve ever really had issues with an iOS update happened last night. My Air2 now won’t connect to wifi and isn’t recognizable by itunes. (Itunes 12.6.5.3, so ymmv.) Limited # of apps tested; most of them crash soon after startup.

      I didn’t do a backup before I did it, since I had been lulled into a false sense of security. Last backup was about 2 weeks ago.

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      • #1965119 Reply

        willygirl
        AskWoody Plus

        *Edit to say I just saw where you’re having trouble connecting to WiFi and further say that iTunes won’t even recognize your device, ouch! Sounds like a jumbled mess. So the suggestion below seems a moot point unless someone can come through with better advice. Good luck!

        Maybe this will help. You should be able to restore your iPad Air2 back to 12.4.1. from 13.1. through iTunes using a PC or Mac. Of course it would be ideal to have a recent backup prior to the upgrade but at least you will have a reliable and stable iOS. You can wait for a new update that fixes this mess, but considering all the flaws popping up that could take awhile. Here’s a link with downgrade info.
        https://wccftech.com/how-to/downgrade-ipados-to-ios-12/

        Win7 SP1 Home 64-bit, GrpA

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    • #1966674 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      Released iOS /iPadOS 13.1.1 to fix battery drain, Siri, iPhone restores.

      iOS 13.1.1 includes bug fixes and improvements for your iPhone. This update:

      Fixes issues that could prevent iPhone restoring from backup
      Addresses an issue that could cause battery to drain more quickly
      Fixes an issue that could impact recognition of Siri requests on iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
      Resolves a problem where Safari search suggestions may re-enable after turning them off
      Addresses an issue that could cause Reminders to sync slowly
      Fixes a security issue for third-party keyboard apps

      Apple releases iOS 13.1.1 with fixes for battery drain, Siri, iPhone restores

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      • #1966830 Reply

        willygirl
        AskWoody Plus

        Maybe somebody could start a new topic for the latest Apple iOS,  iPadOS updates after a download/install. I’m sticking with 12.4.1 until an update comes along that’s more solid. Sometimes it takes a few additional minor fixes until they get it right.

        Win7 SP1 Home 64-bit, GrpA

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    • #1966835 Reply

      Ken Sims
      AskWoody Plus

      Maybe somebody could start a new topic for the latest Apple iOS, iPadOS updates after a download/install. I’m sticking with 12.4.1 until an update comes along that’s more solid. Sometimes it takes a few additional minor fixes until they get it right.

      12.4.2 has been released in parallel with 13.1.1. I’ve installed 12.4.2 on my iPhone 6 with no visible issues.

      I’ve also not seen any issues so far on my iPhone 8 with 13.1.1.

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      • #1966887 Reply

        willygirl
        AskWoody Plus

        I knew there was a 12.4.2 for iPhone 6 and others who were using an older device that were dropped by 13. I have an 8Plus but will wait a bit longer. Good to know your 8 is problem free so far! Let us know if there’s anything buggy or even if  a few days from now it’s still doing good. Thanks!

        Win7 SP1 Home 64-bit, GrpA

        • #1966905 Reply

          PKCano
          Da Boss

          The AKB will get updated when I get the time. There are updates for older iOS and MacOS that need to be added. Nathan has sent me some of the information to add (when I get a round tuit).Round-TUIT

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          • #1967011 Reply

            willygirl
            AskWoody Plus

            PK could you please get to the point 😊 Or you could borrow my round tuit. No problem I know you’ve got a load. Take a break go hang out in Hawaii under a palm tree, you deserve it.

            Win7 SP1 Home 64-bit, GrpA

        • #1967279 Reply

          Ken Sims
          AskWoody Plus

          I knew there was a 12.4.2 for iPhone 6 and others who were using an older device that were dropped by 13. I have an 8Plus but will wait a bit longer. Good to know your 8 is problem free so far! Let us know if there’s anything buggy or even if a few days from now it’s still doing good. Thanks!

          Today my iPhone 6 (that I updated to 12.4.2) had a wonky Bluetooth issue with my car.

          It initially connected okay, but when I turned on the audio in the car to play the music that I had ready to go on the phone, there was no sound. I checked the volume level. I checked the phone, which showed that the music was playing. Pausing and resuming the playback did nothing. I turned off the Bluetooth on the phone and turned it back. The phone and car now would not connect.

          For the return trip, I followed the normal procedures. The connection took place normally and the music played through the car’s speakers normally.

          I don’t know if the issue had anything to do with 12.4.2. I don’t even know whether the issue was the fault of the phone or of the car.

          I’m taking the iPhone 6 out of service very soon anyway. The iPhone 8 (on 13.1.1) is replacing it. I’ve got it almost ready to go.

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          • #1970586 Reply

            Ken Sims
            AskWoody Plus

            I made four trips today (going to two different places, returning home between) and did not have any problems on any trip with my iPhone 6 running 12.4.2 with either Bluetooth connectivity or with car audio playing music from the phone.

            I’ve upgraded my iPhone 8 to 13.1.2 with no apparent issues yet. I haven’t used the Bluetooth on the 8 yet because the SIM card is still in the 6, so the 8 stays home when I go places.

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        • #1977166 Reply

          Ken Sims
          AskWoody Plus

          Last Thursday I got the phone functions moved from my iPhone 6 (iOS 12.4.2) to my new iPhone 8 (iOS 13.1.2), and subsequently wiped the 6.

          No visible problems with the 8 and iOS 13.1.2, including no bluetooth connection problems nor audio problems with my car.

    • #1967276 Reply

      PKCano
      Da Boss

      AKB2000014: Ongoing List of Apple Operating System Updates has been updated Saturday, September 28, 2019 to reflect the recent updates issued by Apple.

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    • #1969052 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      Dev/Public beta of iOS 13.1.2 released.

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    • #1969070 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      had a wonky Bluetooth issue with my car.

      I guess that I am blessed 🙂 Never in ~8 years with iPhone devices have I accounted BT connection problems in my cars. I think the reason is that I never settled for the build-in audio/media systems that came with my cars and always install high end systems (current : iPhone Max, iOS 13.1.2 beta, Pioneer AVH-X8850BT).

    • #1969085 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      Dev macOS Catalina beta 10 released.

    • #1969093 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      watchOS 6.0.1 released to the public.

      watchOS 6.0.1 optimizes performance, provides security updates, and contains improvements and bug fixes, including:

      Resolves an issue where the Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse watch face does not speak time
      Addresses an issue where the calendar complication may not display events
      Fixes a bug that could result in a loss of display calibration data

    • #1969102 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      Dev/Public beta of iOS 13.1.2 released

      Correction : This is a public release, not beta.

      iOS 13.1.2 includes bug fixes and improvements for your iPhone. This update:

      Fixes a bug where the progress bar for iCloud Backup could continue to show after a successful backup
      Fixes an issue where Camera may not work
      Addresses an issue where the flashlight may not activate
      Fixes a bug that could result in a loss of display calibration data
      Fixes an issue where shortcuts could not be run from HomePod
      Addresses an issue where Bluetooth may disconnect on certain vehicles

      • #1969132 Reply

        pmcjr6142
        AskWoody Plus

        Alex57232 and Nathan Parker….these update fixes to iOS 13 are coming fast and furious now.  13.1.2 is not yet on gottabemobile.com and they are usually very fast on this.  iOS 13.1.1 is recommended as “install” on this 2000014 Knowledge Base forum and now there is 13.1.2.  Question/Comment….Gordon Kelly who has the Forbes articles quoted on this Forum before, is recommending a hold on 13.1.1 for now.  He thinks iOS13 is that messed up.  If I may ask, why do you recommend install for 13.1.1 and do you think these problems are iPhone model specific?  I have a 6S.

        • #1969172 Reply

          Alex5723
          AskWoody Plus

          why do you recommend install for 13.1.1 and do you think these problems are iPhone model specific?  I have a 6S

          Just installed iOS 13.1.2 on my iPhone Max, Installed WatchOS 6.0.1 on my Apple Watch 5 and starting installation of iPadOS 3.1.2 (3.06GB) on my iPad 10.5 Pro.
          I am a beta user too.

          Contrary to Windows 10 updates where I wait 30 days (security updates) and 6 months (feature update) I install Apple’s security and bug fixes the minute they are out. Never in ~8+ years have I came across a sever problem/bug.

          I think the the 6s hardware is too old for the new iOS 13.

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          • #1969231 Reply

            pmcjr6142
            AskWoody Plus

            “I think the the 6s hardware is too old for the new iOS 13”

            Alex, no the 6S gets 13.  The iPhone 6 and below don’t get it.  I was wondering if the iOS13 problems were more or less model specific, ie, the newer models have the problems.

            • #1969236 Reply

              Alex5723
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              “I think the the 6s hardware is too old for the new iOS 13”

              Alex, no the 6S gets 13.  The iPhone 6 and below don’t get it.  I was wondering if the iOS13 problems were more or less model specific, ie, the newer models have the problems.

              I haven’t said the the 6s doesn’t get iOS 13, I said that the hardware is too old to carry iOS 13.
              You could take the “Windows root”, backup your 6s, wipe your 6s, and start as new.

            • #1969270 Reply

              pmcjr6142
              AskWoody Plus

              “I haven’t said the the 6s doesn’t get iOS 13, I said that the hardware is too old to carry iOS 13.
              You could take the “Windows root”, backup your 6s, wipe your 6s, and start as new.”

              Alex….help me here.  I know I could install 13 via a iPhone Restore on iTunes to free up space before it installs the newest update, but I have 17.58 GB available now and isn’t iOS13 around 2.28 GB?  Also, doesn’t it  also free up space by implementing APFS as the new file system.  When you said “too old”, I’m assuming you were referring to available space.  Thanks.

            • #1969409 Reply

              Ken Sims
              AskWoody Plus

              According to this Ars Technica article:
              iOS 13 on the iPhone 6S and SE: New software runs fine on a phone that’s still fast
              … “People upgrading to iOS 13 this year may have more of an incentive than usual to keep using their old phones rather than upgrading to new ones.”

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            • #1969463 Reply

              pmcjr6142
              AskWoody Plus

              According to this Ars Technica article:
              iOS 13 on the iPhone 6S and SE: New software runs fine on a phone that’s still fast
              … “People upgrading to iOS 13 this year may have more of an incentive than usual to keep using their old phones rather than upgrading to new ones.”

              Ken….very good article.  I feel better about iOS 13 now and will most likely upgrade.  Thank you.

    • #1971428 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      Developer iOS 13.2 beta 1 with Deep Fusion camera Technology released.

    • #1971588 Reply

      PKCano
      Da Boss

      AKB2000014: Ongoing List of Apple Operating System Updates has been updated Wednesday, October 2, 2019 to reflect the recent updates issued by Apple.

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    • #1973443 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      Just a few days after releasing the 10th beta of macOS Catalina, Apple has released the macOS Catalina Golden Master. That’s just ahead of the expected public release tomorrow, October 4th.

      The macOS Catalina Golden Master is available now for those on the beta and is a good sign that Apple is indeed on track to release the latest macOS update to the public tomorrow, October 4th.

      Apple releases macOS Catalina 10.15 GM ahead of public release

    • #1976515 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      macOS Catalina final.

      macOS Catalina now available, here are the top 7 new Mac features

      macOS Catalina now available, here are the top 7 new Mac features

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      Alex5723
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      Apple released watchOS 5.3.2 for the Apple Watch Series 4 connected to older iOS devices not receiving iOS 13 (not receiving WatchOS 6).

      Using Apple Watch Series 4 with an older iPhone? There’s a software update for you

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      Alex5723
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      iOS 13.2 beta 2, iPadOS 13.2 beta 2, watchOS 6.1 beta 3, and tvOS 13.2 beta 2 available for devs.

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      Alex5723
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      First developer beta of macOS 10.15.1.

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      cptomes
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      Just a note from an iOS/macOS technician (worked at an aasp until fall 2017…)

       

      new iOS version (11.x.x 12.x.x 13.x.x) wait a month.  if you’re on 12.4.1 and your iPhone wants to go to 13.anything, wait a month.

      major iOS revision (12.3.x going to 12.4.x) wait two weeks.

      minor iOS revision (12.4.1 going to 12.4.2) wait a week.

      let the other folks be on the bleeding edge.  almost all the time, if there is an issue, Apple will address is pretty fast.  but older devices might have issues with the latest updates, give Apple a chance to fix it before you install.  staying within the last major version is a super good idea if your iPhone can handle it.

       

      for macOS, wait a week or two after the security update for your version of macOS pops up.  don’t just hit the “update” button, read what got fixed and maybe even go to macrumors.com and see what if anything got broken with the update.  if you’re an Adobe Creative Cloud or other big expensive software user, you know where to go to verify these updates won’t break your shiny.

       

      for versions of macOS, everyone should decide for themselves when to migrate.  wait at least 2 months after release, in my opinion.  unless you know and have practiced how to use disk utility or carbon copy cloner to make a bootable image of your Mac on an external drive, you have no business playing canary in the coal mine.  newer Mac laptops are ssd-soldered-down and lack the data recovery port on the logic board that the 2015 laptops showed up with.  so if your mac goes belly up the only solutions may be “erase and fresh install” or “replace the logic board” both of which blows away your data.  iMacs are mostly showing up with Fusion Drive so if those hiccup it’s “erase everything and rebuild from scratch – you have a current time machine backup don’t you?”

       

      when the new versions of the os come out, pay attention to stuff like “file system is now apfs not hfs+” and “time machine backups will be converted to the new format which may make the backup disk unreadable to older OS”.  that tsunami washed ashore with 10.14 and if people dedicate a backup disk to one machine, not a problem.  but for those of us with 16tb drobo raids for time machine and 7 macs, these details matter.  get a usb-c/thunderbolt3 disk and be happy with speedy new disk.

       

      just my .02.

       

      in conclusion, my day job is keeping Microsoft desktops and servers alive.  and every single computer I own is either Apple or has Linux on it.  I would rather experience an Apple update/version problem than ANY of the last two years of Microsoft screwups.

      Hey look! Another Feature Update!

      You mean I shouldn't click Check for Updates?

      Why does it keep saying "Something Happened"?

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      Alex5723
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      Apple released rare update to AirPort utility.
      Users have reported problems with the AirPort Utility app on iOS 13.

      1.3.6 Oct 14, 2019
      This update includes general stability and security improvements

      https://apps.apple.com/us/app/airport-utility/id427276530

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      Alex5723
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      iOS 13.2 beta 3, iPadOS 13.2 beta 3, watchOS 6.1 beta 4, and tvOS 13.2 beta 3 released.

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      Alex5723
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      Apple released second developer beta of macOS Catalina 10.15.1

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