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        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 Ongoing List of Apple Operating System Updates

        By @Nathan Parker

        Published October 21, 2020 rev 1.44

        This is a regularly updated list of Apple operating system updates (grouped by device), along with guidance in determining when it is recommended to install each update. Instructions on updating each device are also included.

        For users with multiple Apple devices (such as a Mac, iPhone, and iPad, etc.), I recommend waiting to install annual major operating system upgrades after Apple has released the major operating system upgrades for each device type. Occasionally, Apple will make major changes to how app data syncs across devices over iCloud, and waiting to upgrade devices after the major operating system upgrades have been released for each device type provides for the smoothest upgrade experience.

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        macOS

        macOS (formerly Mac OS X and OS X) is the operating system that powers Mac computers. Mac OS X Cheetah-OS X Lion installs operating system updates through Software Update in System Preferences. OS X Mountain Lion-macOS High Sierra installs operating system updates through the Mac App Store. macOS Mojave-Present has moved operating system update installs back through Software Update in System Preferences. Instructions for installing macOS updates can be found here.

        Major operating system upgrades for all future macOS releases are delivered through an installer downloaded from the Mac App Store (prior to OS X Lion, operating system upgrades were delivered through a DVD). Mac OS X Cheetah-OS X Mountain Lion named major operating system releases after large cats. OS X Mavericks to the present version of macOS are named after California locations. Major versions are released once a year.

        General recommendations for installing macOS upgrades:

        1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as macOS Catalina 10.15 in October), it is generally recommended to wait and install the upgrade after its first minor update is released (in this case, 10.15.1).
        2. When a minor update to a major operating system version is released (for Catalina, that would be 10.15.1, 10.15.2, 10.15.3, etc.), it is generally recommended to wait a few days after the update has been released before installing it to ensure no major issues have been noted. I generally install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my Mac is working as should from the update before the following week.
        3. When an update marked Supplemental Update or Security Update is released, it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally follow the same schedule and install such updates on the Friday after release. Some Security Updates are folded into minor updates instead of being released as separate updates.

        Current Version: macOS 10.15.7  September 24, 2020 INSTALL.
        Information on  MacRumors .

        Previous  Version: macOS Catalina 10.15.6  Information on  issues on MacRumors

        Instructions for preparing to upgrade to macOS Catalina is available here.

        Previous Version: macOS Mojave 10.14.6  Security Update 2020-005
        Supplemental Update issued Oct. 1, 2020  MrMacintosh and MacRumors. INSTALL.

        Instructions for upgrading to macOS Mojave for users on High Sierra or earlier is available here.

        Previous Versions: macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 Security Update 2020-005 INSTALL.

        Previous Versions: macOS Sierra 10.12.6 Security Update INSTALL

        A list of older previous versions of Mac OS X, OS X, and macOS is available here.

        Occasionally, certain Macs will also require a firmware update. These updates are usually included in a minor update or a Supplemental update. While firmware updates are generally safe to install (and Macs generally need the firmware update to resolve an issue), occasionally a firmware update can cause issues, so it is recommended to read up on firmware updates before installing them to ensure it is safe to proceed. This article provides general instructions concerning Mac firmware updates. The most common firmware updates have been SMC firmware updates.

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        iOS

        iOS (formerly iPhone OS until iOS 4) is the operating system that powers iPhones, iPod Touches, and iPads (up until iOS 12. iOS 13 offers a variant for iPads known as iPadOS). Updates can either be installed wirelessly using Software Update in Settings (iOS 5 or later), or through iTunes (in macOS Catalina, iTunes iOS device management is being replaced by device management through the Finder that will mirror the functionality of iTunes). Instructions for installing iOS updates are available here. Major versions are released once a year with successive version numbers.

        General recommendations for installing iOS updates:

        1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as iOS 13), it is generally recommended to wait and install the update after its first minor update is released (in most cases, that would be a 0.1 update such as iOS 13.0.1, but it seems for iOS 13, Apple is folding such updates into iOS 13.1).
        2. When a minor bug fix update is released (such as iOS 12.4.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my iOS devices are working as should from the update before the following week.
        3. When a minor feature update is released (such as iOS 12.4 or iOS 13.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my iOS devices are working as should from the update before the following week. I have occasionally encountered an issue with minor feature updates causing an issue I would need to self-resolve or need resolved in a successive minor bug fix update.

        Current Latest Version: iOS 14.1  INSTALL Information on AppleInsider.
        Previous Versions: iOS 14.0.1 Information on AppleInsider

        iOS 13 Device Compatibility is available here.

        iOS 12.4.8 INSTALL.
        More details on iOS 12.4.3 for iPhone 5

        iOS 12 Device Compatibility is available here.

        Special Updates to Previous Versions:

        iOS 10.3.4 INSTALL

        iOS 9.3.6 INSTALL

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        iPadOS

        Beginning with iOS 13, Apple has released a variant for iPads known as iPadOS. Updates can either be installed wirelessly using Software Update in Settings, or through iTunes (in macOS Catalina, iTunes iOS device management is being replaced by device management through the Finder that will mirror the functionality of iTunes). Instructions for installing iPadOS updates are available here. Major versions are released once a year with successive version numbers.

        General recommendations for installing iPadOS updates:

        1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as iPadOS 13), it is generally recommended to wait and install the update after its first minor update is released (in most cases, that would be a 0.1 update such as iPadOS 13.0.1, but we are not sure how Apple is going to handle the first minor update to iPadOS 13 yet).
        2. When a minor bug fix update is released (such as iPadOS 13.0.1, if released), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my iPad is working as should from the update before the following week.
        3. When a minor feature update is released (such as iPadOS 13.1, if released), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my iPad is working as should from the update before the following week. I have occasionally encountered an issue with minor feature updates causing an issue I would need to self-resolve or have need resolved in a successive minor bug fix update.

        Current Latest Version:  iPadOS 14.1  INSTALL Information on AppleInsider.
        Previous Versions: iPadOS 14.0.1 Information on AppleInsider

        iPadOS 13 Device Compatibility is available here.

        Previous Versions (still on previous iOS branding): iOS 12.4.8 INSTALL.

        iOS 12 Device Compatibility is available here.

        Special Updates to Previous Versions:

        iOS 10.3.4 INSTALL

        iOS 9.3.6 INSTALL

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        watchOS

        watchOS is the operating system that powers Apple Watches. Updates can either be installed through the Watch app on a paired iPhone or wirelessly using Software Update in Settings (future updates installed after installing watchOS 6 or later). Instructions for installing watchOS updates are available here. Major versions are released once a year with successive version numbers.

        General recommendations for installing iOS updates:

        1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as watchOS 6), it is generally recommended to wait and install the update after its first minor update is released (such as watchOS 6.0.1).
        2. When a minor bug fix update is released (such as watchOS 6.0.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my Apple Watch working as should from the update before the following week.
        3. When a minor feature update is released (such as watchOS 6.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my Apple Watch working as should from the update before the following week.

        Current Latest Version: watchOS 7.0.2 INSTALL for testing. Information on AppleInsider.

        watchOS 5.3.6 is available for Series 4 connected to older iOS devices not receiving iOS 13 INSTALL.

        Previous Versions: 5.3.2 (Apple Watch Series 1 and Series 2) INSTALL

        watchOS 5 (and later) isn’t compatible with first generation Apple Watch.

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        tvOS

        tvOS is the operating system that powers the fourth-generation Apple TV (Apple TV HD) and later (previous Apple TV models used custom Apple TV software based on a variant of iOS). Updates can be installed wirelessly using Software Update in Settings. Instructions for installing tvOS updates are available here. Major versions are released once a year with successive version numbers.

        General recommendations for installing tvOS updates:

        1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as tvOS 13), it is generally safe to install these shortly after release (as fewer issues tend to occur with Apple TV compared to other Apple devices). I generally install these on the Sunday after their release since I am generally watching some content on Apple TV over the weekend, and I initiate the update when I am finished watching content on Apple TV.
        2. When a minor bug fix update is released (such as tvOS 13.0.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after release. I generally install these on the Sunday after their release since I am generally watching some content on Apple TV over the weekend, and I initiate the update when I am finished watching content on Apple TV.
        3. When a minor feature update is released (such as tvOS 13.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after release. I generally install these on the Sunday after their release since I am generally watching some content on Apple TV over the weekend, and I initiate the update when I am finished watching content on Apple TV.

        Current Latest Version: tvOS 14.0.2 INSTALL.

        Previous Version: tvOS 14.0.1

        Occasionally, the Siri remote on the fourth-generation Apple TV (Apple TV HD) or later will require a firmware update. These are generally handled automatically after tvOS updates, although occasionally it is recommended to check for these firmware updates manually. These instructions explain how to manually update the Siri remote firmware. Siri remote firmware updates are safe install shortly after release (and it is generally recommended they are installed shortly after release).

        Special Updates to Previous Versions:

        Apple TV Software 7.3.1 (for third generation Apple TV) INSTALL

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        AirPods
        The firmware on AirPods should update automatically, especially after iOS updates. However, occasionally it is recommended to check for these firmware updates manually. These instructions explain how to manually check AirPods firmware. AirPod firmware updates are safe install shortly after release (and it is generally recommended they are installed shortly after release).

        Current Latest Firmware Version: AirPods 2nd-gen and AirPods Pro revision 3A283 Auto INSTALL (See AppleInsider)

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        HomePod

        The software on the HomePod should update automatically. However, occasionally it is recommended to install these software updates manually. These instructions explain how to manually update the software on the HomePod. HomePod software updates are likely safe to install shortly after release (as fewer issues tend to occur with the HomePod compared to other Apple devices).

        Current Latest Version: HomePod Software v13.4.8  INSTALL.

        Previous Version: HomePod Software v13.4.6

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        AirPort
        AirPort wireless routers have been discontinued by Apple. However, occasionally there has been a firmware update released for AirPort wireless routers. These firmware updates are generally installed automatically. However, here are the the instructions explaining how to manually update the firmware on AirPort wireless routers. Firmware updates should be installed shortly after release to improve the security and reliability of AirPort wireless routers.

        Due to the fact that Apple has discontinued AirPort wireless routers, users should slowly begin transitioning to another brand wireless router for security updates. I have personally had good experience with Cisco Small Business routers, and I have had excellent wireless performance with Cambium Networks business routers and wireless access points. I have also had decent wireless performance with Asus wireless routers.

        The latest firmware available for AirPort Extreme AC models is:

        7.9.1 INSTALL

        The latest firmware available for AirPort Express N models is:

        7.8 INSTALL

        A list of the latest firmware for older AirPort models is available here.

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        Security Updates
        Apple occasionally releases security updates for its various devices. These are generally included in major operating system upgrades or minor operating system updates. A list of all recent Apple security updates is available here.

      • #1964657 Reply
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        NOTE: both iOS 9.3.6 and 10.3.4 GPS Fix for older tech

        Apple recommends all users with eligible devices install the new updates. Apple devices won’t be affected until November 3, 2019, so there should be plenty of time for users with affected iPhones and iPads to install the new software.

        quote from
        https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/22/apple-releases-gps-bug-fix-older-iphones-ipads/

        and from the horses mouthhttps://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210239

        My interpretation of this is that it needs to be done prior to November 3rd 2019 otherwise the GPS function will not work as intended thereafter.

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        • #1964752 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          I just updated a friend’s iPhone5 to 10.3.4 and it’s all good. Glad we have Apple on the AW forum. It’s going to help lots of folks.

          Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

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      • #1964836 Reply
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        Please, note the following, because it can be somewhat unnerving for those of us still getting to know our Macs and used to how Windows updates work:

        In my, admittedly rather limited experience, system updates, whether initial or incremental, take about the same, long time to install. Once the process starts by clicking “install”, it will go through a cycle where the machine actually seems to turn itself completely off several times, but then restarts showing the usual loader screen: black with a white apple in the middle and a loading bar under it. The bar sometimes does not move, or move backwards, or the screen goes all black again before it has extended fully. The whole process, until finally getting to a login screen a bit different from the usual one, takes some 20 minutes, give or take. After logging in, everything looks to be back to normal.

        With my thanks to PKCano for starting and taking care of this very timely new knowledge-base for the benefit of Mac users, and for writing its detailed opening entry. And for the good advice on when to install system updates (the same as for Windows upgrades and patches and except for rare emergencies: wait a while after they are first offered!)

        Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

        • #1964846 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Let’s give Credit where Credit is due.
          If you will notice at the top, the credit goes to Nathan Parker for this Thread. It’s his knowledge that he put together for this very informative piece.

          I simply did the posting.

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          • #1964860 Reply
            Myst
            AskWoody Plus

            Yep. I often let Nathan know how valuable his input and research/knowledge is for us with Apple devices and such. We are very lucky to have Mr. Parker aboard.

            Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

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          • #1964861 Reply
            OscarCP
            AskWoody Plus

            Yes, I’m afraid I missed that. So now I must make it even clearer that Nathan is behind this. He has been great help from his first coming to Woody’s as go-to Apple expert in residence, always quick to answer questions and give useful advice concerning the problems I and others may be having with the use of our Macs, iPhones, iPads, etc. As well as being a bringer of timely and useful information on new developments and changes concerning Apple products, both software and hardware. Doing all that while in the middle of his higher-degree studies and being active making informative videos. For that and for your ever gentle and unassuming manner: Thank you, Nathan!

            Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

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          • #1964993 Reply
            DrBonzo
            AskWoody Plus

            Here’s a big thanks to Nathan Parker!

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      • #1964877 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I would DEFINITELY suggest waiting to update to ipadOS 13.1 – first time I’ve ever really had issues with an iOS update happened last night. My Air2 now won’t connect to wifi and isn’t recognizable by itunes. (Itunes 12.6.5.3, so ymmv.) Limited # of apps tested; most of them crash soon after startup.

        I didn’t do a backup before I did it, since I had been lulled into a false sense of security. Last backup was about 2 weeks ago.

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        • #1965119 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          *Edit to say I just saw where you’re having trouble connecting to WiFi and further say that iTunes won’t even recognize your device, ouch! Sounds like a jumbled mess. So the suggestion below seems a moot point unless someone can come through with better advice. Good luck!

          Maybe this will help. You should be able to restore your iPad Air2 back to 12.4.1. from 13.1. through iTunes using a PC or Mac. Of course it would be ideal to have a recent backup prior to the upgrade but at least you will have a reliable and stable iOS. You can wait for a new update that fixes this mess, but considering all the flaws popping up that could take awhile. Here’s a link with downgrade info.
          https://wccftech.com/how-to/downgrade-ipados-to-ios-12/

          Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

          • This reply was modified 1 year ago by Myst.
      • #1966674 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Released iOS /iPadOS 13.1.1 to fix battery drain, Siri, iPhone restores.

        iOS 13.1.1 includes bug fixes and improvements for your iPhone. This update:

        Fixes issues that could prevent iPhone restoring from backup
        Addresses an issue that could cause battery to drain more quickly
        Fixes an issue that could impact recognition of Siri requests on iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
        Resolves a problem where Safari search suggestions may re-enable after turning them off
        Addresses an issue that could cause Reminders to sync slowly
        Fixes a security issue for third-party keyboard apps

        Apple releases iOS 13.1.1 with fixes for battery drain, Siri, iPhone restores

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        • #1966830 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          Maybe somebody could start a new topic for the latest Apple iOS,  iPadOS updates after a download/install. I’m sticking with 12.4.1 until an update comes along that’s more solid. Sometimes it takes a few additional minor fixes until they get it right.

          Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

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      • #1966835 Reply
        Ken Sims
        AskWoody Plus

        Maybe somebody could start a new topic for the latest Apple iOS, iPadOS updates after a download/install. I’m sticking with 12.4.1 until an update comes along that’s more solid. Sometimes it takes a few additional minor fixes until they get it right.

        12.4.2 has been released in parallel with 13.1.1. I’ve installed 12.4.2 on my iPhone 6 with no visible issues.

        I’ve also not seen any issues so far on my iPhone 8 with 13.1.1.

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        • #1966887 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          I knew there was a 12.4.2 for iPhone 6 and others who were using an older device that were dropped by 13. I have an 8Plus but will wait a bit longer. Good to know your 8 is problem free so far! Let us know if there’s anything buggy or even if  a few days from now it’s still doing good. Thanks!

          Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

          • #1966905 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            The AKB will get updated when I get the time. There are updates for older iOS and MacOS that need to be added. Nathan has sent me some of the information to add (when I get a round tuit).Round-TUIT

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            • #1967011 Reply
              Myst
              AskWoody Plus

              PK could you please get to the point 😊 Or you could borrow my round tuit. No problem I know you’ve got a load. Take a break go hang out in Hawaii under a palm tree, you deserve it.

              Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

          • #1967279 Reply
            Ken Sims
            AskWoody Plus

            I knew there was a 12.4.2 for iPhone 6 and others who were using an older device that were dropped by 13. I have an 8Plus but will wait a bit longer. Good to know your 8 is problem free so far! Let us know if there’s anything buggy or even if a few days from now it’s still doing good. Thanks!

            Today my iPhone 6 (that I updated to 12.4.2) had a wonky Bluetooth issue with my car.

            It initially connected okay, but when I turned on the audio in the car to play the music that I had ready to go on the phone, there was no sound. I checked the volume level. I checked the phone, which showed that the music was playing. Pausing and resuming the playback did nothing. I turned off the Bluetooth on the phone and turned it back. The phone and car now would not connect.

            For the return trip, I followed the normal procedures. The connection took place normally and the music played through the car’s speakers normally.

            I don’t know if the issue had anything to do with 12.4.2. I don’t even know whether the issue was the fault of the phone or of the car.

            I’m taking the iPhone 6 out of service very soon anyway. The iPhone 8 (on 13.1.1) is replacing it. I’ve got it almost ready to go.

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            • #1970586 Reply
              Ken Sims
              AskWoody Plus

              I made four trips today (going to two different places, returning home between) and did not have any problems on any trip with my iPhone 6 running 12.4.2 with either Bluetooth connectivity or with car audio playing music from the phone.

              I’ve upgraded my iPhone 8 to 13.1.2 with no apparent issues yet. I haven’t used the Bluetooth on the 8 yet because the SIM card is still in the 6, so the 8 stays home when I go places.

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          • #1977166 Reply
            Ken Sims
            AskWoody Plus

            Last Thursday I got the phone functions moved from my iPhone 6 (iOS 12.4.2) to my new iPhone 8 (iOS 13.1.2), and subsequently wiped the 6.

            No visible problems with the 8 and iOS 13.1.2, including no bluetooth connection problems nor audio problems with my car.

      • #1967276 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014: Ongoing List of Apple Operating System Updates has been updated Saturday, September 28, 2019 to reflect the recent updates issued by Apple.

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      • #1969052 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Dev/Public beta of iOS 13.1.2 released.

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      • #1969070 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        had a wonky Bluetooth issue with my car.

        I guess that I am blessed 🙂 Never in ~8 years with iPhone devices have I accounted BT connection problems in my cars. I think the reason is that I never settled for the build-in audio/media systems that came with my cars and always install high end systems (current : iPhone Max, iOS 13.1.2 beta, Pioneer AVH-X8850BT).

      • #1969085 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Dev macOS Catalina beta 10 released.

      • #1969093 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        watchOS 6.0.1 released to the public.

        watchOS 6.0.1 optimizes performance, provides security updates, and contains improvements and bug fixes, including:

        Resolves an issue where the Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse watch face does not speak time
        Addresses an issue where the calendar complication may not display events
        Fixes a bug that could result in a loss of display calibration data

      • #1969102 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Dev/Public beta of iOS 13.1.2 released

        Correction : This is a public release, not beta.

        iOS 13.1.2 includes bug fixes and improvements for your iPhone. This update:

        Fixes a bug where the progress bar for iCloud Backup could continue to show after a successful backup
        Fixes an issue where Camera may not work
        Addresses an issue where the flashlight may not activate
        Fixes a bug that could result in a loss of display calibration data
        Fixes an issue where shortcuts could not be run from HomePod
        Addresses an issue where Bluetooth may disconnect on certain vehicles

        • #1969132 Reply
          pmcjr6142
          AskWoody Plus

          Alex57232 and Nathan Parker….these update fixes to iOS 13 are coming fast and furious now.  13.1.2 is not yet on gottabemobile.com and they are usually very fast on this.  iOS 13.1.1 is recommended as “install” on this 2000014 Knowledge Base forum and now there is 13.1.2.  Question/Comment….Gordon Kelly who has the Forbes articles quoted on this Forum before, is recommending a hold on 13.1.1 for now.  He thinks iOS13 is that messed up.  If I may ask, why do you recommend install for 13.1.1 and do you think these problems are iPhone model specific?  I have a 6S.

          • #1969172 Reply
            Alex5723
            AskWoody Plus

            why do you recommend install for 13.1.1 and do you think these problems are iPhone model specific?  I have a 6S

            Just installed iOS 13.1.2 on my iPhone Max, Installed WatchOS 6.0.1 on my Apple Watch 5 and starting installation of iPadOS 3.1.2 (3.06GB) on my iPad 10.5 Pro.
            I am a beta user too.

            Contrary to Windows 10 updates where I wait 30 days (security updates) and 6 months (feature update) I install Apple’s security and bug fixes the minute they are out. Never in ~8+ years have I came across a sever problem/bug.

            I think the the 6s hardware is too old for the new iOS 13.

            • This reply was modified 1 year ago by Alex5723.
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            • #1969231 Reply
              pmcjr6142
              AskWoody Plus

              “I think the the 6s hardware is too old for the new iOS 13”

              Alex, no the 6S gets 13.  The iPhone 6 and below don’t get it.  I was wondering if the iOS13 problems were more or less model specific, ie, the newer models have the problems.

              • #1969236 Reply
                Alex5723
                AskWoody Plus

                “I think the the 6s hardware is too old for the new iOS 13”

                Alex, no the 6S gets 13.  The iPhone 6 and below don’t get it.  I was wondering if the iOS13 problems were more or less model specific, ie, the newer models have the problems.

                I haven’t said the the 6s doesn’t get iOS 13, I said that the hardware is too old to carry iOS 13.
                You could take the “Windows root”, backup your 6s, wipe your 6s, and start as new.

              • #1969270 Reply
                pmcjr6142
                AskWoody Plus

                “I haven’t said the the 6s doesn’t get iOS 13, I said that the hardware is too old to carry iOS 13.
                You could take the “Windows root”, backup your 6s, wipe your 6s, and start as new.”

                Alex….help me here.  I know I could install 13 via a iPhone Restore on iTunes to free up space before it installs the newest update, but I have 17.58 GB available now and isn’t iOS13 around 2.28 GB?  Also, doesn’t it  also free up space by implementing APFS as the new file system.  When you said “too old”, I’m assuming you were referring to available space.  Thanks.

              • #1969409 Reply
                Ken Sims
                AskWoody Plus

                According to this Ars Technica article:
                iOS 13 on the iPhone 6S and SE: New software runs fine on a phone that’s still fast
                … “People upgrading to iOS 13 this year may have more of an incentive than usual to keep using their old phones rather than upgrading to new ones.”

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              • #1969463 Reply
                pmcjr6142
                AskWoody Plus

                According to this Ars Technica article:
                iOS 13 on the iPhone 6S and SE: New software runs fine on a phone that’s still fast
                … “People upgrading to iOS 13 this year may have more of an incentive than usual to keep using their old phones rather than upgrading to new ones.”

                Ken….very good article.  I feel better about iOS 13 now and will most likely upgrade.  Thank you.

      • #1971428 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Developer iOS 13.2 beta 1 with Deep Fusion camera Technology released.

      • #1971588 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014: Ongoing List of Apple Operating System Updates has been updated Wednesday, October 2, 2019 to reflect the recent updates issued by Apple.

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      • #1973443 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Just a few days after releasing the 10th beta of macOS Catalina, Apple has released the macOS Catalina Golden Master. That’s just ahead of the expected public release tomorrow, October 4th.

        The macOS Catalina Golden Master is available now for those on the beta and is a good sign that Apple is indeed on track to release the latest macOS update to the public tomorrow, October 4th.

        Apple releases macOS Catalina 10.15 GM ahead of public release

      • #1976515 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        macOS Catalina final.

        macOS Catalina now available, here are the top 7 new Mac features

        macOS Catalina now available, here are the top 7 new Mac features

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      • #1978468 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Apple released watchOS 5.3.2 for the Apple Watch Series 4 connected to older iOS devices not receiving iOS 13 (not receiving WatchOS 6).

        Using Apple Watch Series 4 with an older iPhone? There’s a software update for you

      • #1978528 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 13.2 beta 2, iPadOS 13.2 beta 2, watchOS 6.1 beta 3, and tvOS 13.2 beta 2 available for devs.

      • #1979245 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        First developer beta of macOS 10.15.1.

      • #1979256 Reply
        cptomes
        AskWoody Plus

        Just a note from an iOS/macOS technician (worked at an aasp until fall 2017…)

         

        new iOS version (11.x.x 12.x.x 13.x.x) wait a month.  if you’re on 12.4.1 and your iPhone wants to go to 13.anything, wait a month.

        major iOS revision (12.3.x going to 12.4.x) wait two weeks.

        minor iOS revision (12.4.1 going to 12.4.2) wait a week.

        let the other folks be on the bleeding edge.  almost all the time, if there is an issue, Apple will address is pretty fast.  but older devices might have issues with the latest updates, give Apple a chance to fix it before you install.  staying within the last major version is a super good idea if your iPhone can handle it.

         

        for macOS, wait a week or two after the security update for your version of macOS pops up.  don’t just hit the “update” button, read what got fixed and maybe even go to macrumors.com and see what if anything got broken with the update.  if you’re an Adobe Creative Cloud or other big expensive software user, you know where to go to verify these updates won’t break your shiny.

         

        for versions of macOS, everyone should decide for themselves when to migrate.  wait at least 2 months after release, in my opinion.  unless you know and have practiced how to use disk utility or carbon copy cloner to make a bootable image of your Mac on an external drive, you have no business playing canary in the coal mine.  newer Mac laptops are ssd-soldered-down and lack the data recovery port on the logic board that the 2015 laptops showed up with.  so if your mac goes belly up the only solutions may be “erase and fresh install” or “replace the logic board” both of which blows away your data.  iMacs are mostly showing up with Fusion Drive so if those hiccup it’s “erase everything and rebuild from scratch – you have a current time machine backup don’t you?”

         

        when the new versions of the os come out, pay attention to stuff like “file system is now apfs not hfs+” and “time machine backups will be converted to the new format which may make the backup disk unreadable to older OS”.  that tsunami washed ashore with 10.14 and if people dedicate a backup disk to one machine, not a problem.  but for those of us with 16tb drobo raids for time machine and 7 macs, these details matter.  get a usb-c/thunderbolt3 disk and be happy with speedy new disk.

         

        just my .02.

         

        in conclusion, my day job is keeping Microsoft desktops and servers alive.  and every single computer I own is either Apple or has Linux on it.  I would rather experience an Apple update/version problem than ANY of the last two years of Microsoft screwups.

        Hey look! Another Feature Update!

        You mean I shouldn't click Check for Updates?

        Why does it keep saying "Something Happened"?

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        • #1987827 Reply
          pmcjr6142
          AskWoody Plus

          cptomes…excellent post.  Your last paragraph is why I intend to switch to iMac instead of updating to Win 10.  Without Ask Woody, my Win 7 Dell PC would have been toast long ago.  The monthly Microsoft update issues are really getting old.   As to the iOS 13 issues that seem to be fairly widespread…I have elected to stay on iOS 12.4.1 until Gordon Kelly and his Forbes column give the green light.  I’m surprised that this Knowledge Base column isn’t covering the iOS 13 problems instead of so quickly recommending “Install”.

          • #1987948 Reply
            Alex5723
            AskWoody Plus

            I’m surprised that this Knowledge Base column isn’t covering the iOS 13 problems instead of so quickly recommending “Install”.

            What iOS 13 problems ?

            I run beta versions of iOS (and now iPadOS) for years… never have I encountered any crashes, apps not launching, iOS not booting…

            Now on iOS/iPadOS 13.2 beta 3 (iPhone XS Max, iPad 10.5 Pro.)

            Staying on iOS 12 you lose security updates, lot of new features, you can’t update Apple Watch to WatchOS 6, you can’t connect to Apple Arcade,…

            Make a double backup to iCloud and local PC and upgrade to 13.1.3

            Better still, join the Beta group.

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            • This reply was modified 1 year ago by PKCano.
      • #1981652 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Apple released rare update to AirPort utility.
        Users have reported problems with the AirPort Utility app on iOS 13.

        1.3.6 Oct 14, 2019
        This update includes general stability and security improvements

        https://apps.apple.com/us/app/airport-utility/id427276530

      • #1983225 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 13.2 beta 3, iPadOS 13.2 beta 3, watchOS 6.1 beta 4, and tvOS 13.2 beta 3 released.

      • #1983967 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Apple released second developer beta of macOS Catalina 10.15.1

      • #1989442 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 13.2 beta 4, iPadOS 13.2 beta 4, watchOS 6.1 beta 5, and tvOS 13.2 beta 4 released.

      • #1990634 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Third developer beta of macOS Catalina 10.15.1 released.

      • #1994360 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        HomePod 13.2 released
        iOS 13.2 now available with Deep Fusion..
        iOS 12.4.3 released for iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPad Air, iPad Mini 2/3, and iPod touch 6th-gen

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      • #1994932 Reply
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        This maybe odd: Today, 29 October, I have received the current update for Safari, but an old security update for my current version of macOS Mojave: Security Update 2019-0001 that, according to my search on the Web, came out in March. On the other hand, I have not received the Mojave Supplemental Update 2 that has been released today, or at least very recently and is now mentioned in the updated header of this thread.

        Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

        • #1994935 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          This one was sneakly quiet. If you have it installed, under System Report\Software, you should have macOS 10.14 Mojave: 18G103. I didn’t even get asked about installing it.

          • #1994948 Reply
            OscarCP
            AskWoody Plus

            Thanks, PK. I just checked as you advised, and verified  that I do have installed that version of Mojave, except it is listed as “macOS 10.14.8 18G103″ ” (the only difference with what you wrote being”.8″) . The kernel is “Darwin 18.7.0.

            Still no “Supplemental Update 2” in sight.

            So, should I just ignore Security Update 2019-0001? (I’ll be doing that anyway, until further notice.)

            Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

            • #1994952 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              I believe 18G103 is the second supplemental. See here.

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              • #1994994 Reply
                OscarCP
                AskWoody Plus

                Thanks for the link: Now there is no doubt in my mind that I have Update 2 installed. So what is 2019-0001 doing here? I have never missed a single update sent by Apple since I installed Mojave, months ago.

                Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

              • #1995028 Reply
                OscarCP
                AskWoody Plus

                I have just installed the Safari update to version 13.0.3, but did not choose to install  the 2019-0001 Mojave update also “waiting to install”, leaving it for a later occasion — or never. And what would you know? After the Safari install was done, I checked to see what was still waiting to install, and there was only Catalina there, no trace of 2019-0001… But now the version of Mojave has changed to “macOS 10.14.6 (18G1012)” (I probably misread (?), earlier, “.6” as “.8” .)

                Stranger and stranger…

                Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

              • #1995035 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                Sneaky things, those security updates from Apple!  🙂

              • #1995055 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                @OscarCP
                Try again. There was too much HTML in that copy/paste to make it legible.

              • #1995071 Reply
                OscarCP
                AskWoody Plus

                PKCano: Sorry about that! I thought, afterwards, that the html might be a problem, but was in something of a hurry, so I did not came back to edit it.

                Now, here it goes again:

                According to Wikipedia in Italian, the version now in my Mac (10.14.6 (18G1012)) is the latest one and was released today, 29 October 2019, 0 days ago (“0 giorni fa”)

                Sviluppatore Apple Inc.
                Famiglia SO Unix, BSD
                Release iniziale 10.14 Developer Beta 1 (4 giugno 2018; 16 mesi fa)
                Release corrente 10.14.6 (18G1012) (29 ottobre 2019; 0 giorni fa)

                But, according to the Wikipedia in English, it is still the version you mentioned (10.14.6 (18G103), released 31 days ago, as shown here:

                Developer: Apple Inc.
                OS family Macintosh Unix

                Source model Closed, with open source components
                Initial release September 24, 2018; 13 months ago.
                Latest release 10.14.6 (18G103) (September 26, 2019; 31 days ago)

                (Also, while the Italian version gives the Beta 1 release as the initial one, in June of last year, English Wikipedia gives the data of the actual Mojave official release to all users in September 2018, which is more to the point.)

                Maybe Wikipedia in English also needs a Mac update?

                And was update “2019-0001” just a cover name for the latest macOS update, released today, at least according to the Italian Wikipedia version? Sneaky, indeed!

                Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

            • #1994966 Reply
              DrBonzo
              AskWoody Plus

              I’m not in a position to check my MacBook Air Mojave machine, but update 2 for Mojave was released on Sept. 26 and if I recall correctly a new version of it – still going by update 2 – was issued on Sept 29.

              On my iMac High Sierra, I was offered today supplemental update 6, so there may be a new round of MacOS (if that’s the correct current lingo for the Mac OS) updates out today. I can’t yet see any info for it on the Apple support page
              https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

              • #1995087 Reply
                OscarCP
                AskWoody Plus

                DrBonzo: If 2019-0001 shows in your Mojave Mac along with the update of Safari to version 13.0.3 and you choose to install only the Safari one, 2019-0001 (apparently the latest Mojave update, disguised as an old update) will install itself also anyways, whether you want it or not. That happened to me a while ago, and it is still too early to tell if that is good or bad.

                Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

        • #1994943 Reply
          Alex5723
          AskWoody Plus

          HomePod 13.2 released

          HomePod 13.2 has been pulled as the update bricked some HomePods which are being replaced at Apple Stores.

          macOS Catalina 10.15.1 released

          WathcOS 6.1 released (for Apple Watch 1 & 2 as well).

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      • #1995192 Reply
        Nathan Parker
        AskWoody_MVP

        The Mojave updates I’m being offered today are:

        • Security Update 2019-001 for 10.14.6
        • Safari 13.0.3

        Should I be seeing anything else?

        Nathan Parker

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        • #1995223 Reply
          DrBonzo
          AskWoody Plus

          @NathanParker – That’s exactly what I’m seeing. Both of these (as well as some others) are finally showing up here:

          https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

        • #1996015 Reply
          DrBonzo
          AskWoody Plus

          I just installed Safari 13.0.3 and Security Update 2019-001 on a MacBook Air running Mojave. Everything seems fine.

      • #1996061 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Apple has released HomePod 13.2.1.

      • #2000304 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Apple released iOS 13.3, iPadOS 13.3, tvOS 13.3, and watchOS 6.1.1 betas.

      • #2000523 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 13.3, iPadOS 13.3

        Public beta 1 is out.

      • #2001108 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 13.2.2 released

        iOS 13.2.2 includes bug fixes and improvements for your iPhone. This update:

        Fixes an issue that could cause apps to quit unexpectedly when running in the background

        Resolves an issue where iPhone may temporarily lose mobile signal after a call

        Addresses an issue where mobile data may temporarily not be available

        Fixes an issue that caused replies to S/MIME encrypted email messages between Exchange accounts to be unreadable

        Addresses an issue where using Kerberos single sign-on service in Safari may present an authentication prompt

        Resolves an issue where charging may be interrupted on YubiKey Lightning-powered accessories

        https://www.macrumors.com/2019/11/07/apple-releases-ios-13-2-2/

        iPadOS 13.2.2 released as well.

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      • #2001111 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        macOS Catalina 10.15.2 beta 1 released.

      • #2002551 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        For those of you with MacOS, some information:
        I have installed MacOS 10.15 on my 2012 iMac and 10.15.1 on my old 2012 13″ MacBook Pro (yes, the one that still had the slot DVD drive), both upgraded from Mojave. Both seem to be running normally on Catalina. Note that I do not use the built in apps like Safari, Mail, Pages, Numbers, Keynote, etc with any frequency, so they have not been tested.

        32-bit Apps are no longer allowed. I had to uninstall Office 2011 and iWorks from the older MacBook Pro (even I had the latest Pages, Numbers, and Keynote installed) and some third-party apps from both machines. My old version of InSSIDer (Free) no longer worked.

        The change in SMB1 required some finagling to get my NAS drives reconnected. Change from:
        smb://<servername>/<sharename>
        to:
        smb://<servername>._smb._tcp.local/<sharename>

        Quite a few of my third-party apps had to be upgraded to a later version: TrendMicro AV, my file sync software, Parallels Desktop, Paragon NTFS for Mac, Adobe Reader, Calibre, Kindle app among them.
        The current versions of FireFox, WaterFox, Thunderbird, VLC Player and CCleaner seem to be OK.

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      • #2005060 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        macOS 10.15.2 beta 2 released.

      • #2005395 Reply
        Myst
        AskWoody Plus

        “Apple iOS 13.2.2 has landed and it’s both an essential upgrade and a negligent mess. Apple’s sixth rapid-fire update since September addresses the appalling performance problems introduced by iOS 13.2 but introduces new ones and ignores major ongoing issues.”
        https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/11/08/apple-ios-1322-release-should-you-upgrade-iphone-update/

        Above excerpt from Gordon Kelly with Forbes – last update to his report was Nov 8. Any thoughts as to his findings on the latest iOS 13.2.2 update? I’m running on 12.4.1 and there are no major issues on my iPhone or iPad with this iOS 12 update. I really would like to wait and see what iOS 13.3 has to offer in the way of stability. I understand it’s out in Beta now and planned for release in December.

        Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

        • #2005405 Reply
          Ken Sims
          AskWoody Plus

          I updated from 13.2 to 13.2.2 a week ago (November 7) and I haven’t noticed any problems.

          I use the iOS Mail app for three Gmail accounts (all of which I set up as Other so that I could manually configure exactly as I wanted), but my iPhone 8 is a secondary device for email. My PC is the primary device so I don’t leave mail on the account. I delete it or move it to the hard drive of my PC. So I never use Search in the Mail app.

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      • #2005434 Reply
        pmcjr6142
        AskWoody Plus

        “Apple iOS 13.2.2 has landed and it’s both an essential upgrade and a negligent mess. Apple’s sixth rapid-fire update since September addresses the appalling performance problems introduced by iOS 13.2 but introduces new ones and ignores major ongoing issues.”
        https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/11/08/apple-ios-1322-release-should-you-upgrade-iphone-update/

        Above excerpt from Gordon Kelly with Forbes – last update to his report was Nov 8. Any thoughts as to his findings on the latest iOS 13.2.2 update? I’m running on 12.4.1 and there are no major issues on my iPhone or iPad with this iOS 12 update. I really would like to wait and see what iOS 13.3 has to offer in the way of stability. I understand it’s out in Beta now and planned for release in December.

        Willygirl….I also follow Gordon Kelly as I do Woody.  Woody never recommends installing new updates when they first come out.  The sky won’t fall if you wait.  I subscribe to this same philosophy for iOS updates.  Until Gordon gives the OK, I’m not updating to iOS 13….iOS 12 works just fine for me.  I can live without dark mode.  While people have installed 13 without problems, there are definitely problems out there.  I’m not willing to play Russian roulette with my iPhone.

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        • #2005562 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          I listen to what Nathan has to say here at Woody’s. But in the process of hitting on a current iOS update, I search around to get the findings of those who report in, this means there are various websites out there giving their rundown. But the bottom line is I wait for guidance from our MVP Nathan Parker to give a thumbs up or down. That’s when I make a final decision on whether to update my phone or other Apple devices. Nathan has a keen sense when updating seems logical. I wanted to throw that post in from Kelly because it raised some questions and concern.

          Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

      • #2005436 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS/iPasOS 13.3 beta 2 released

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      • #2005437 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Gordon Kelly with Forbes – last update to his report was Nov 8. Any thoughts as to his findings

        Gordon Kelly is an Apple hater not to be trusted.

      • #2005443 Reply
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        PKCano #2002551 : “I have installed MacOS 10.15 on my 2012 iMac and 10.15.1 on my old 2012 13″ MacBook Pro (yes, the one that still had the slot DVD drive), both upgraded from Mojave. Both seem to be running normally on Catalina. Note that I do not use the built in apps like Safari, Mail, Pages, Numbers, Keynote, etc with any frequency, so they have not been tested.

        I only use Mail and none of the others in that list (although I keep all of them duly updated). Mail fulfills a very important function as an email client, when chosen to keep oneself in meaningful touch with others, so I am interested to know what PK finds out after trying it.

        Has anyone else who installed Catalina been using Mail afterwards? If so, how has that worked out?

        Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

        • #2005449 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          I use Thunderbird as the mail client, since it is cross paltform: MacOS and Windows (and Linux too). That way I can have my contacts, mail, etc the same everywhere.

      • #2005446 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Apple AirPods Pro Firmware Update 2B588 Released.

      • #2008041 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 13.2.3 / iPadOS 13.2.3 released :

        iOS 13.2.3 includes bug fixes and improvements for your iPhone. This update:

        Fixes an issue where system search and search within Mail, Files, and Notes might not work
        Addresses an issue where photos, links, and other attachments might not display in the Messages details view
        Fixes an issue that could prevent apps from downloading content in the background
        Resolves issues that may prevent Mail from fetching new messages, and fail to include and quote original message content in Exchange accounts

        iOS 13.2.3 & iPadOS 13.2.3 Update Released with Bug Fixes

      • #2008570 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 13.3 and iPadOS 13.3 beta 3

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      • #2008585 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        macOS 10.15.2 beta 3 , TvOS 13.3, watchOS 6.1.1 beta 3

      • #2015955 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        macOS Catalina 10.15.2 beta 4 released

      • #2015978 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 13.3, iPadOS 13.3, tvOS 13.3 & watchOS 6.1.1 : 4th beta released.

      • #2017534 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Final iOS 13.3, watchOS 6.1.1, and tvOS 13.3 and Catalina 10.15.2

        Catalina :

        https://support.apple.com/kb/HT210642

        https://support.apple.com/kb/HT201222

        HomePod OS 13.3

        Improves the ability of HomePod to recognize the voice profile of family members
        Allows individual family members to enable/disable personal requests
        Fixes an issue that could prevent music playback from resuming on a stereo pair after a phone call

        iOS 12.4.4 has been released for older iPhones with security and performance improvements. It is available for iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPad Air, iPad Mini 2/3, and iPod touch 6th-gen.

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      • #2018704 Reply
        DrBonzo
        AskWoody Plus

        There’s a new Safari update 13.0.4 for Mojave and High Sierra which I’ve installed successfully on each OS.

        Also Security Update 2019-002 for Mojave and 2019-007 for High Sierra both installed successfully.

        https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

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        • #2018720 Reply
          OscarCP
          AskWoody Plus

          DrBonzo: A few days ago, I got a security updates for Safari (same one as you did) and for Mojave. The latter, strangely enough, had the same number as the current version of Mojave: 10.14.6…

          That made me suspicious, so I clicked in the little link in the popup with the update numbers, and it said there that it was a security update for Mojave 10.14.6 . So I shouted Geronimo! and clicked on “Update”. That happened (with the usual black screen, white apple, white loading line that sometimes moves backwards, etc. Eventually, it finished doing that and nothing bad has happened since then. So far. That I have noticed.

          Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

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      • #2020699 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 13.3.1 beta 1 and iPadOS 13.3.1 beta 1 tvOS 13.3.1, macOS 10.15.3 released

        • This reply was modified 10 months, 1 week ago by Alex5723.
      • #2020705 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        AirPods and AirPods Pro updated with new firmware 2C54

      • #2021579 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 has been updated Dec. 19, 2019.

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      • #2084760 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 13.3.1 beta 2, iPadOS 13.3.1 beta 2, macOS Catalina 10.15.3 beta 2, watchOS 6.1.2 beta 2, and tvOS 13.3.1 beta 2

        Xcode 11.3.1

      • #2086548 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 13.3.1 beta 2, iPadOS 13.3.1 beta 2, macOS Catalina 10.15.3 beta 2, watchOS 6.1.2 beta 2, and tvOS 13.3.1 beta 2

        Xcode 11.3.1

        So iOS 13.3.1 beta 2 does have a new toggle to disable Ultra Wideband.

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      • #2100499 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        macOS Catalina 10.15.3 beta 3
        Beta 3 : iOS 13.3.1, iPadOS 13.3.1, watchOS 6.1.2, and tvOS 13.3.1

        • This reply was modified 9 months ago by Alex5723.
      • #2111372 Reply
        Ken Sims
        AskWoody Plus

        Per this Ars Technica article:
        Apple releases iOS 13.3.1 and macOS Catalina 10.15.3
        … Apple has released:
        iOS 13.3.1
        iPadOS 13.3.1
        macOS Catalina 10.15.3
        watchOS 6.1.2
        tvOS 13.3.1

      • #2111384 Reply
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        I have installed, just now, macOS Mojave Security Update 2020-001 and now can say with confidence that the Mac is still alive and, as proof of that, I am typing this note on its very own keyboard. Whether, besides of alive, it is also well, remains to be seen.

        As usual, the patching took a while to get done, first to download all of the 1.61 GB of warm and quivering update flesh, then almost as long to install it, going through the usual: the machine turning itself off, on again, off again, always with a black screen surrounding an economical view of a white apple and a white loading bar very, very slowly progressing and, sometimes, receding, etc., etc.

        You should try it and experience the thrill of wondering how long to wait before declaring the process has failed and one needs to get a new Mac, and hope, if such is the case, that the last backup you made also included the current version of the software you have been developing and on which you have spent so many moons already trying to get it to work right — and it looked like you might have finally succeeded, just before this inconvenience happened.

        Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

      • #2111494 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 has been updated January 28, 2020.

      • #2123855 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 12.4.5 OTA for :

        iPhone 6
        iPhone 6 Plus
        iPhone 5S
        iPad mini 3
        iPad Air, iPad mini 2
        iPod touch 6th-generation

        IPSW downloads at https://ipsw.me/

      • #2123884 Reply
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        The 2020-002 update for macOS has not showed up for me, yet, when checking in System Preferences/Software Update. Nor has an also announced Safari update for mi current version: 13.0.5 (14608.5.12).

        The only thing waiting to be downloaded and installed is Catalina, something I won’t be doing for several more months.

        Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

      • #2125139 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 has been updated February 3, 2020.

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      • #2135326 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        developer betas of macOS Catalina 10.15.4, iOS 13.4. iPadOS 13.4, watchOS 6.2, and tvOS 13.4.

      • #2153172 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        watchOS 6.1.3 for iOS 13 and watchOS 5.3.5 for iOS 12.

        https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

      • #2153853 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Dev Beta 2 : iOS 13.4, macOS 10.15.4, watchOS 6.2, and tvOS 13.4

      • #2154050 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Dev Beta 2 : iOS 13.4, macOS 10.15.4, watchOS 6.2, and tvOS 13.4

        Public beta 2 out.

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      • #2264648 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB200014 has been updated May 21, 2020

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      • #2269344 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 has been updated June 4. 2020.

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      • #2269444 Reply
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        I just installed 2020-003 and one Safari update. I do not use Safari, but prefer to keep it up to date all the same. The Mac is still alive and maybe even well. Thanks, PK.

        Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

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        • #2269735 Reply
          bassmanzam
          AskWoody Plus

          I’ve successfully installed 2020-003 on my Mojave.

          I am new with macOS, is there a history of updates installed like Windows? I can only find Mojave 10.14.6 no supplemental updates.

          While I’m at it, is Safari baked in like IE in Windows 7?

          • #2269758 Reply
            OscarCP
            AskWoody Plus

            bassmanzam: I have had a Mac now for about three years and, in this time, have moved from the Mac Operating System (*) major release the Mac came with: “Sierra”, to “Mojave” (skipping the intermediate “High Sierra.”)

            So, since I bought the Mac, in mid-2017, I have installed one new operating system (“Mojave”) and also several (something like 10, or an average of just over 3 a year) point releases and security patches. For a while there was a problem with one update to “High Sierra” in a government computer that I have to use for work, but have experienced none in my own Mac, updating its software as outlined above.

            As to Safari: there are very occasional security updates and also what I would call “improvement” ones (to fix bugs, add new features, that sort of thing), but nothing that happens regularly, unlike what is the case with Internet Explorer.

            Generally speaking, for me updating (so far) has been a very low-key and infrequent event, unlike with Windows. I hear that “Catalina”, still the latest major Operating System release, is creating some more trouble for users than those previous versions of  macOS I have mentioned. I believe that it has to do with “Catalina” being a major overhaul of macOS. I hope that things will settle down after some more months have gone by. Then I might move from “Mojave” to “Catalina.”

            I close by saying that it is a good idea to follow what PKCano and Nathan Parker post in “Forums/Non-Windows Operating Systems/macOs”  and “…/iOs” section of “AskWoody” about patches, updates and related news of interest to users.

            (*) Or macOS that, until a few years ago, was called OS X.

            Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

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            • #2269965 Reply
              bassmanzam
              AskWoody Plus

              OscarCP: Not sure if you can answer this but how long will Mojave get security updates? And when will we be forced to upgrade to Catalina?

              • #2269969 Reply
                DrBonzo
                AskWoody Plus

                I’m not OscarCP but here’s how it generally works. A new version of macOS comes out every Fall, usually around September, October, maybe even November. There are usually 3 versions of macOS that are supported at any given time. Right now those 3 versions from oldest to newest are High Sierra, Mojave, and Catalina. This coming Fall, a new version of macOS will come out, and High Sierra will get bumped off the list of supported macOS versions, leaving Mojave, Catalina, and New Version as the 3 supported versions (from oldest to newest). Following the pattern means that Mojave support will end in the Fall of 2021.

                There may be some finer points to this but that’s basically how it works.

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              • #2269986 Reply
                OscarCP
                AskWoody Plus

                bassmanzam: Sorry I just got here and saw your question. I also see that DrBonzo has answered it quite fully.

                For my part, as I mentioned in my previous post, I am still running Mojave. Seeing that Catalina is having a bumpy ride, I am waiting for the bumps to get smoothed out. If necessary I am quite ready to bypass Catalina and wait for the next major update of macOS that, as DrBonzo mentions, will follow Catalina.

                That would be later this year, some time in the early Fall, if past history of such releases is still applicable to this future one. Apple does not have a published written policy, at least that I know of, on matters having to do with the updates of its software, so one has to go by what experience has shown to have repeatedly happened in the past.

                Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

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          • #2269762 Reply
            DrBonzo
            AskWoody Plus

            Pull down the black Apple logo menu (upper left of screen). Choose About This Mac, then click the System Report button. In the left panel of the resulting screen, scroll down to Software and expand it and choose Installations. On the right you’ll see all the programs installed on your machine. Scroll down far enough and you should see the Security Updates that have been installed.

            I’m not sure about Safari, but I don’t think it’s part of the macOS operating system in the sense that IE 11 is an integral part of Windows. On the other hand, I would assume that macOS uses Safari to download some of what I call ‘stealth’ security patches (there are patches that Apple pushes out and installs automatically – well, depending on your system prefs – and are typically pretty small)

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      • #2269590 Reply
        pmcjr6142
        AskWoody Plus

        You’re update for iOS 13.5.1 says “Install. Wait for Testing”.  Which is it?  Safe to install or wait for further testing?  Thank you.

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        • #2269592 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Ooops. Should be only “WAIT for testing.” “INSTALL” didn’t get deleted in the edit.

          Nathan is going to test this weekend. If no problems, it will change to INSTALL next week.

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      • #2269597 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        You’re update for iOS 13.5.1 says “Install. Wait for Testing”.  Which is it?  Safe to install or wait for further testing?  Thank you.

        If you want to jailbreak stay away from 13.5.1

        iOS 13.5.1 is stable. No problems at all on my iPhone XS Max or iPad 10.5″

        I am currently on iOS 13.5.5 beta

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        • #2269606 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          I’ve had no problems with iOS 13.5.1 since installing the other day. Not into jailbreak so it’s all good here.

          Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

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      • #2269610 Reply
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        I updated SWMBO iphone 6 from 12.4.6 to 12.4.7 without issue a while back. Other than the initial indexing after the update, her battery life and iphone experience is still silky smooth. stable and more secure.

        Win8.1 Pro | Linux Hybrids | Win7 Pro O/L | WinXP O/L
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        • #2269613 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          I had no problem with 12.4.7 on my iPhone 6 either.

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      • #2269612 Reply
        pmcjr6142
        AskWoody Plus

        Ooops. Should be only “WAIT for testing.” “INSTALL” didn’t get deleted in the edit.

        Nathan is going to test this weekend. If no problems, it will change to INSTALL next week.

        I wait for you instead of Gordon Kelly on Forbes.  Thanks, PK.

      • #2269617 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        I wait for you instead of Gordon Kelly on Forbes.

        Gordon Kelly on Forbes has no idea what iOS is.

      • #2272086 Reply
        pmcjr6142
        AskWoody Plus

        PKCano….any status update on iOS 13.5.1?  Some of the online reviews are a little iffy, so I’m waiting for Nathan’s testing results.  FYI, I updated my iMac to 10.15.5 Supplemental before I noticed you hadn’t moved this to install.  That was about 2 weeks ago and I’m experienced no problems with my rather simple uses with the Mac…email and internet lookups.  Thank you.

        • #2272087 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          My 5 Macs and MacBooks are also on 10.15.5 Supp. with no problems. (3 Ivy Bridge, 1 Haswell, 1 Kaby Lake)
          I don’t have anything recent enough for iOS 13 (iPhone 6 and iPan Mini 2(

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        • #2272091 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          any status update on iOS 13.5.1?

          I’ve posted that iOS 13.5.1 seems stable for my iPhone 8Plus. Still having battery drain issues with the iPadOS 13.5.1. But it isn’t anything for me to worry about. I use it frequently but it drains quicker now on this current OS.

          Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

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      • #2272102 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        any status update on iOS 13.5.1?

        I’ve posted that iOS 13.5.1 seems stable for my iPhone 8Plus. Still having battery drain issues with the iPadOS 13.5.1. But it isn’t anything for me to worry about. I use it frequently but it drains quicker now on this current OS.

        I am on 13.6 beta 2 on iPhone Max and iPad 10.5″ Pro.
        Every thing runs smooth with 0 problems.

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      • #2276134 Reply
        pmcjr6142
        AskWoody Plus

        13.5.1 may have an issue that is preventing my iPhone 6S from syncing the Recents call log with Bluetooth in my car.  When I delete a Recent in the call log, it is not deleted in Bluetooth.  I know iOS 13 has had Bluetooth issues.  I have tried iPhone Settings>Bluetooth>iPhone “Forget This Device and also deleting my iPhone from Setup>Bluetooth in the car.  These steps have not fixed the problem.  Has anyone experienced this with iOS 13 and did you come up with a fix…beside waiting for iOS 14?  Other iPhone Bluetooth features appear to be working. Thank you.

      • #2281450 Reply
        bassmanzam
        AskWoody Plus

        Anyone seeing Security update 2020-004 for Mojave?

        Is this safe to install?

        • #2281453 Reply
          DrBonzo
          AskWoody Plus

          I’m seeing it along with an update for Safari. They’ve been out for a couple days. There’s only one or two holes that get patched in the 004 update so it’s probably pretty safe, although I haven’t installed it yet; might install it tomorrow.

          https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211289

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          • #2281585 Reply
            bassmanzam
            AskWoody Plus

            Thanks DrBonzo.  From what I can tell there is only one hole plugged…Vim. If I remember correctly Vim is a text editor. Why then is the security update 1.67GB? Just guessing here but is the security update cumulative like the Monthly Rollup in Windows 7?

             

             

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            • #2281647 Reply
              DrBonzo
              AskWoody Plus

              I don’t know why the updates are so big, but if I recall correctly, all of the Mojave updates have been about 1.7 GB. I’ve never had the impression that security updates were/are cumulative, but that’s just an impression (or lack thereof)

              In any case, I just installed the 004 update on a MacBook Air running Mojave. No issues. It seems the update was already downloaded. After clicking Restart it only took about 12 minutes until I was back to the login screen. That’s a lot faster than normal.

              Also installed the Safari update on the same machine with no issues.

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        • #2281462 Reply
          OscarCP
          AskWoody Plus

          Fastest way to install the updates:

          Click on the black apple at the top left corner of the screen, then, in the box that opens, click on “Check for Updates”; that will open a new box with a button to install Catalina, below it will say “Other updates are available/More information” Click on “More Information” and it will open a last dialog box with “Security update 2020-004” and “Safari” with an “Install Now” button at the lower right corner of the dialog box. Click on that if you are going to install both updates. Or you can uncheck the box next to the name of one update and install the other. Or wait to install anything, as I intend to do, until the situation becomes more clear.

          Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

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          • #2281587 Reply
            bassmanzam
            AskWoody Plus

            Thanks OscarCP. I’ll give it a few days before installing too.

            I still haven’t decided about Catalina. Maybe I’ll give it a try in late August.

      • #2281708 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 has been updated 7/19/2020.

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        • #2282580 Reply
          OscarCP
          AskWoody Plus

          Today, 22 July, I’ve installed both the 2020-004 patch for Mojave and the Safari patch offered at the same time. Everything I use regularly seems to be working fine. (The text on the 2020-004 patch has changed to “INSTALL.”)

          Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

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          • #2282658 Reply
            pmcjr6142
            AskWoody Plus

            OscarCP…if you’ve stayed with Mojave, do you continue to have the badge alert for the Catalina update? What are your plans for Big Sur? I bought my iMac earlier this year and it came with Catalina. I know nothing else about Mac OS.

            • #2282712 Reply
              OscarCP
              AskWoody Plus

              pmcjr6142 : Yes, I continue to get those alerts and one red dot on the “Software Update” icon on the Dock indicating there is a macOS update waiting.

              My plan, as always, is to watch and learn.

              Right now I have no worries about staying with Mojave and I think it is likely I’ll skip Catalina and watch what happens after Big Sur is deployed. It will be only some months after Big Sur is finally released that I’ll decide whether to install it, or not, depending on what I hear from those who do. If, in the end, I decide not to install Big Sur, then it is likely I will install Catalina, so a year and some months from now, when the next macOS version following Big Sur comes out, I’ll still have a supported version of this OS. And keep on watching and learning.

              There is also an interesting possibility worth looking into, discussed by Alex and Nathan, of installing Big Sur in a separate partition of the HD or SSD in a way that makes it possible to switch between them and, in this way, move gradually to Catalina or to Big Sur while retaining the fall back option of using Mojave.

              Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

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      • #2282766 Reply
        bassmanzam
        AskWoody Plus

        Just installed Security Update 2020-004 for Mojave on my Macbook air. No real issues.

        Hope to update Safari tomorrow

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      • #2288355 Reply
        pmcjr6142
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 13.6.1 Update and OS 10.15.6 Supplemental Update announced.  Will wait for OK to install.

      • #2288993 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 has been updated 8/16/2020.

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      • #2294214 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 has been updated 9/6/2020.

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      • #2297369 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 has been updated 9/18/2020.

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      • #2297392 Reply
        Ken Sims
        AskWoody Plus

        An article today in Ars Technica about iOS 14 on iPhone 6S and the original iPhone SE:

        iOS 14 on the iPhone 6S and SE: Performance is fine, other stuff is not

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      • #2297393 Reply
        Ken Sims
        AskWoody Plus

        Here’s another article from Ars Technica.  This one is about privacy enhancements in iOS 14.

        A bevy of new features makes iOS 14 the most secure mobile OS ever

      • #2297417 Reply
        pmcjr6142
        AskWoody Plus

        An article today in Ars Technica about iOS 14 on iPhone 6S and the original iPhone SE:

        iOS 14 on the iPhone 6S and SE: Performance is fine, other stuff is not

        Thank you for posting this.  Makes me feel better about getting a little more use out of my 6S.

      • #2298703 Reply
        Ken Sims
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 14.0.1 and iPadOS 14.0.1 have been released, including fixing the bug that on power-cycling would reset changes to the default browser and email apps.

        Apple’s first iOS update after iOS 14 just hit, and it fixes resetting app defaults

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      • #2299858 Reply
        pmcjr6142
        AskWoody Plus

        Any feedback on iOS 14.01 or MacOS 10.15.7?  I’m holding off for the OK to install.

        • #2299860 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          I have Nathan’s updates. As soon as I have the time to update the AKB……

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      • #2300081 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 has been updated 9/30/2020.

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      • #2300146 Reply
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        As far as I know, Apple stopped supporting Sierra on November 30th of last year. I am trying to understand better how “support” works with Macs. So why is Sierra getting this update as well?

        Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

        • #2300154 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Please tell me where you see that Sierra is getting “this update.”

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          • #2300160 Reply
            OscarCP
            AskWoody Plus

            Up in the latest list of updates posted at the start of this thread:

            Previous Versions: macOS Sierra 10.12.6 Security Update INSTALL

            And here:

            https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210589

            where there is a list of all these recent updates and its says this is the update for Sierra:

            macOS 10.12 Sierra: 16G2136

            Although it is not the same name for this update as for the others. Still, it is getting updated.

            Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

            • #2300162 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              If I read that right, the date on that link is Sept 2019.

              • #2300167 Reply
                OscarCP
                AskWoody Plus

                Actually that link is also in the words “Security Update“, between the words “Sierra” and “INSTALL” in the entry I already copied from the top of this thread. For some reason it appears as regular text in my copy, but it is up there, as brown as brown can be. Very interesting. Maybe someone could correct this by removing that unrelated line of text?

                Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

              • #2300170 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                Did you even click on the “brown” so see what it was?

                • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 1 day ago by PKCano.
              • #2300186 Reply
                OscarCP
                AskWoody Plus

                Yes, that is what I did. That line was unexpected to me, Sorry I was not clearer about “this update.” I thought “Sierra” was over and done with as far as Apple was concerned. So I wanted to understand this and that is why wrote my initial question/comment.

                Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

              • #2300172 Reply
                Microfix
                AskWoody MVP

                let us know how the update goes 🙂

                Win8.1 Pro | Linux Hybrids | Win7 Pro O/L | WinXP O/L
              • #2300178 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                Maybe someone could correct this by removing that unrelated line of text?

                It’s not unrelated. It says “Previous version”

              • #2300181 Reply
                OscarCP
                AskWoody Plus

                Thanks. So, even if a macOS version is no longer supported, one can still get updates already released when it was supported. Good to know.

                Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

      • #2300180 Reply
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        Curioser and curioser: Recently there was a macOS security update 2020-005 for, among other versions, Mojave, the one I am running at the moment. It was listed in my Mac’s “System Preferences/Software Update” along with Catalina, but now it is not longer there.

        Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

        • #2300191 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Oops. Missed the updates for Mojave and High Sierra.
          They were not the list Nathan sent me for updates.
          I have added those two.
          Thanks for the heads-up on that.
          Sierra is not included in the current documentation.

          And there is nothing in the linked documentation that says this:

          So, even if a macOS version is no longer supported, one can still get updates already released when it was supported.

          • #2300203 Reply
            OscarCP
            AskWoody Plus

            Thanks, PK, Please, find out and let us know.

            As to Sierra, well, I assumed that if was listed up there, in the initial comment with the other systems, that meant it was still “patchable”. Could not think of any other reason for it to be listed up there.

            Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

            • #2300211 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              That is Nathan’s AKB. I just do the grunt work on it when he notifies me with a list to be updated (because he can’t access the Edit). Those two weren’t on his list this time.

              There may be some people still on Sierra that need access to the documentation. That is not a link to download and update like AKB200003. It is documentation.

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      • #2300278 Reply
        pmcjr6142
        AskWoody Plus

        Per the Install recommendation, I installed 14.01 (having held off on 14.o) and 10.15.7.  No installation problems and all seems well.  Not overly excited with the Widgets and certainly not the App Library.  I do these updates largely for the Security improvements.  Thanks again to Nathan and PK.

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      • #2300325 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 has been updated 10/01/2020 to a WAIT on the Mojave and High Sierra Security Patches 2020-005.
        Apple has apparently pulled the Mojave patch.

      • #2300575 Reply
        Ken Sims
        AskWoody Plus

        Interesting article in The Verge about some people experiencing battery drain on iPhones and Apple Watches after installing iOS 14 and watchOS 7.  This is NOT fixed in iOS 14.0.1.

        If iOS 14 is causing battery drain, you might need to wipe your iPhone

        I haven’t upgraded from iOS 13.7 yet and I guess I’ll wait a while longer.

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        • #2300581 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          Haven’t had any problems with battery drain on my iPhone 8 Plus, or the 2020 SE, updated both to iOS 14.0.1 the other night. Only thing that went wrong was me at the controls for JavaScript. Don’t turn it off, websites don’t like it when it isn’t active. I kinda knew this but I’m a maniac sometimes with these devices.

          I don’t understand why The Verge is creating panic with their headlines “… You may have to wipe your iPhone …” if you upgrade. Crazy. But if you feel best holding off then do it. iOS 14.0.1 on the two iPhones is running fine so far, I’ll post an update if it messes up. I’m still on iPadOS 13.7. Just haven’t had the time, I’ll wait until the next update then do everything at the same time once we get the all clear.

          Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

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          • #2300588 Reply
            Ken Sims
            AskWoody Plus

            Did you miss the word “some” (in my post) and the words “if” and “might” (in the headline)?

            I don’t know if I would have a problem or not.  But there’s nothing in iOS 14 that I desperately want, so I’ll play it safe and wait.

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            • #2300596 Reply
              Myst
              AskWoody Plus

              Did you miss the word “some” (in my post) and the words “if” and “might” (in the headline)?

              I missed nothing. 😉 The word “none” appeals to me or rather not to even mention “wipe”. Haha. The folks here have given us the thumbs up to “Install” iOS 14.0.1. Your choice. No need to get cranky 😬

              Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

        • #2300687 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          Interesting article in The Verge about some people experiencing battery drain on iPhones and Apple Watches after installing iOS 14

          See my post from another discussion

          Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

      • #2300650 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Interesting article in The Verge about some people experiencing battery drain on iPhones and Apple Watches after installing iOS 14 and watchOS 7.  This is NOT fixed in iOS 14.0.1.

        If iOS 14 is causing battery drain, you might need to wipe your iPhone

        I haven’t upgraded from iOS 13.7 yet and I guess I’ll wait a while longer.

        I don’t have any battery drain on both Apple Watch 5 (WatchOS 7.1 beta 2) and iPhone XS Max (iOS 14.2 beta 2) nor has any with previous WatchOS iOS versions.

        28 hours after charging both batteries show 45% for the iPhone and 44% for the watch.

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        • #2300652 Reply
          Alex5723
          AskWoody Plus

          Edit: Wrong Picture attached.

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      • #2301252 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 has been updated 10/05/2020.

        Nathan has advised, if there has been no uproar as of Monday, Oct 5, to mark the October 1, 2020 reissued Supplemental Updates for Mojave 10.14.6 and High Sierra 10.13.6 as “INSTALL.”

        Since I have heard no screams, I have done so.

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      • #2303612 Reply
        pmcjr6142
        AskWoody Plus

        Nathan Parker…thank you for the good writeup of your iOS 14 impressions in Woody’s Oct. 11 Newsletter.  You mentioned how to quickly switch to speakerphone from the new incoming call banner.  To solve this for me, I reverted to the pre iOS 14 full page notification instead of the new banner.  I found this in Settings>Phone>Incoming Calls.  Since I always use speaker anyway, I found a setting I didn’t know about that was there pre 14 to always answer calls in speaker mode.  This is in Settings>Accessibility>Touch>Call Audio Routing…turn on Speaker. Apparently, this setting used to be in General, but with iOS 14, Accessibility is a separate line item in Settings.  I wish I had known about this before.  I don’t mean to tell you something you didn’t know, but maybe, like me, these settings will be useful to someone.

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      • #2303805 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Apple Releases watchOS 7.0.2

        watchOS 7.0.2 contains improvements and bug fixes, including:
        – Addresses an issue that could cause the battery to drain more quickly
        – Resolves an issue that prevented some users from accessing the ECG app in regions where it is available

      • #2305989 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        AKB2000014 has been updated 10/21/2020 to cover iOS 14.1, iPadOS 14.1 and Watch 7.0.2

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        • #2306132 Reply
          pmcjr6142
          AskWoody Plus

          I went ahead and installed 14.1, but apparently it reintroduces the bug in iOS 14 where your choice of default mail and browser apps is reset. After installing iOS 14.1, whenever your chosen third party email and browser apps update, your selections will be removed and revert to Apple Mail and Safari. I checked these settings and mine had reverted from Gmail and Chrome back to Mail and Safari.  My guess is that after 14.01 and when Gmail and Chrome apps updated after the 14.01 install, my settings did change back to the defaults.  I changed them again tonight to Gmail and Chrome.  When these apps update again I’ll check the settings.

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