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    Topic: Guide to Using WuMgr for Windows 10 Updates @ AskWoody

    WuMgr for Windows 10 Explanation

    WuMgr is third-party software created by DavidXanatos and performs Windows Update Management. It is an alternate method for Windows update operations. This topic is a short explanation on how to use WuMgr (Update Manager for Windows) to either install Windows updates or hide them.

    Part I will deal with downloading and executing WUMgr.

    Part II will show how to install Windows updates.

    Part III will show how to hide Windows updates.

    Part I Downloading and Executing WuMgr

    WuMgr is located at this address:
    https://github.com/DavidXanatos/wumgr

    Select Release 1.1
    wum07b

    Select WuMgr_v1.1b.zip
    wum08b

    Save file:
    wum09b

    Extract files:
    wum10b

    I extracted files here:
    wum11b

    The executable file is here. Click on it to run it.
    wum12b

    Part II Installing Updates from WuMgr

    There are six selections for WuMgr from left to right they are:
    Circle: Search
    Down arrow: Download
    Down arrow with box: Install
    Trash: Uninstall
    Eye: Hide
    Chain: Links

    wum00

    Select the circle on the far left.
    wum01-2

    Check the update you wish to install.
    Select the box with the down arrow.
    wum02-2

    The update will download and install.
    wum03-2

    Part III Hiding Updates in WuMgr

    When you hide an update in WuMgr, the update is prevented from installing.

    Select the circle on the far left.
    wum04-1

    Check the update you wish to hide.
    Select the eye with the line through it.
    wum05-1

    The update will be hidden.
    wum06-1

    Here is a discussion thread on the platform that may be of help.

     

    Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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    • #2429109

      Thank you! I understand WUMgr better now.

    • #2436069

      Ok, help me to understand. Up to this point I have been using wushowhide to do the monthly updates on a Win10 Home machine with great success.

      I wish to give WuMgr a run this time around.

      1.  Does metered connection need to be set to off prior to running WuMgr? and can it be          permanently be left off after the reboot?

      2.  Do we need to resume updates in Settings/Update & Security if previously paused for a set period?

       

      Cheers

       

    • #2436091

      Over on the “wumgr options panel settings for Win10 Pro. What do you use?”  thread I posted my settings.

      Once WuMgr is set up properly you won’t even see the Windows update screen, and don’t need to use metered connection.

      The only time you will see any updates offered is when you run WuMgr. Then you can pick which ones you want to install, and install them. If you want to hide the ones you don’t want, you can. But then you have to examine them the next month, if still there.

      Once you have the updates you chose installed, then that is all you have to do until the next month.

       

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    • #2436384

      Does metered connection need to be set to off

      Do not change any existing settings. WuMgr does its own thing independent of WU settings.

      Run WuMgr and click the search button (arrows forming a circle).
      You will see a list of available updates and can select any and choose an action for those.

      cheers, Paul

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      • #2436664

        Thanks for your feedback.

        I did find that resume updates (previously setting was paused) had to be in effect in WU for  WuMgr to show all available updates, otherwise only the Defender definitions was listed and nothing else.

         

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    • #2438602

      In WuMgr under the Auto Update tab I have the following settings greyed out.

      Block Access to WU Servers

      Notification Only

      Download Only

      Scheduled Installation

      Does anyone have a clue why?

      Cheers

      • #2438686

        Do you use a 3rd party Windows hacking tool that changes Windows, WU settings ? Don’t.

        • #2438794

          Not to my knowledge.

          I’m new to WuMgr and have only performed tasks on it on 1 occasion, installed the March updates. I previously used wushowhide and ‘pause updates’ for xx days setting in Win10 Home with good success rates.

          AutoUpdateTab

          • #2438803

            Mine also looks like that. I think that’s just the way it works with Win10 Home.

            I vaguely remember that other types of Win10 (Pro etc) may be slightly different with some options not greyed out. Maybe someone else could confirm.

            Windows 10 Home 22H2, Acer Aspire TC-1660 desktop + LibreOffice, non-techie

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    • #2438814

      It’s the same for me on W10 Home with no registry hacks.

      cheers, Paul

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    • #2449102

      I had to do a reinstall of Win10 and started doing updates via WUMGR.

      2022-04 Update for Windows 10 Version 20H2 for x64-based Systems (KB4023057)
      seems to be stuck on In Progress. It doesn’t help if I do a restart

      which won’t let the following install
      2022-05 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 20H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5013942)

      The Trash icon is grayed out so I can’t delete 2022-04 Update

      Any thoughts? that might help?

    • #2453309

      Hello Susan and all your team,

      I fully admit that I’m not conversant in using wumgr as I’m not able to download the updates ( “authorization failed”  “access denied “etc…

      Thus I raise the white flag and ask you how to uninstall this software ?

      I tried through Windows without success. I have a 5-year old ASUS portable PC with Win 10, 64 bits) which was updated with standard MS Windows updates through the end of April.

      I tried through CC Cleaner: the file is unknown

      And trying to erase the file gets me a note like: Unable to uninstall this file is used in another application. Although I had gotten out of wumgr and erased its shortcut…

      Many thanks for your help.

      And thanks for all your work in this Newsletter which is a great help.

      Courteously yours,

      Genaker

      • #2453315

        What file are you accessing? it should be wumgr.exe and it is neither uninstalled nor installed. It is extracted from a .zip file.

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        • #2453935

          Thanks for your reply Geekdom

          After a while I found a way to uninstall by stopping the process through the Task Manager. It flabergasted the MS updates a short while until I restarted the PC. Now they’re doing their bit downloading themselves.

          I will use another Update manager in the future, as this one is short on On-line help for my software abilities

          • #2453947

            Several points:

            • You didn’t mention specifically what you were uninstalling, leading me to believe that you were attempting to uninstall WuMgr. In the future, provide information on what Microsoft Update you are uninstalling such as the identifying number. Help us by providing complete information.
            • There’s much information out there on WuMgr.  Here is an internet seach example where the search term is “using WuMgr”:
              https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffhp&q=using+wumgr&atb=v311-1&ia=web
            • Figure out what tool you want to use for your Microsoft Updates, whatever it may be, and learn how to use it effectively.
            Carpe Diem {with backup and coffee}
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            offline▸ Acer TravelMate P215-52 RAM8GB Win11Pro 22H2.22621.674 x64 i5-10210U SSD Firefox106.0 MicrosoftDefender
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            • #2454122

              Hello Geekdom,

              Thanks so much for today’s mail. This is exactly the kind of research I was going to make on the forum. You must have telepathic abilities : enjoy them !

              Have an EXCELLENT day.

              Genaker

          • #2454076

            I will use another Update manager in the future, as this one is short on On-line help for my software abilities



            @genaker
            , here are two other programs that are intended to provide the kind of control over Windows updating that you seek: the Windows Update MiniTool and the Windows Automatic Updates Manager. WUMT is the grandaddy of these applications, and WUMgr is explicitly modeled on it. You may have better success with one of these two.

            Good luck. Let us know how you make out with either of these alternatives.

             

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    • #2453336

      One thing to (possibly) watch out for: early this month, I brought a Windows 10 laptop up to version 21H2. IIRC, the previous installed version was 2004, meaning that (if I understand these things) my Windows 10 was now out of support. Instead of going through the usual patch/updating process, to get 21H2 I had to go to a Microsoft page to download the new version.

      With this as background, I note that the next time I looked at the laptop, Windows was telling me that some updates were required, as if WUMGR had been disabled. Launching the program confirmed that, indeed, the radio button in the Auto Update tab down on the left was now UNselected.

      Selecting that radio button again brought the updating process back to the desired state (meaning: with the user in control of the process).

      When moving to a new version of Windows 10, make sure to keep an eye out for the possible disabling of WUMGR, perhaps if the one you currently have has gone out of support.

       

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      • #2453338

        Thanks for the tip ! I will look into that pretty soon, as I had not expected your kind of reply.

        Excellent day to you

        Genaker

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    • #2453375

      When moving to a new version of Windows 10, make sure to keep an eye out for the possible disabling of WUMGR

      WUmgr is a portable app.
      There is no way Windows update can tamper with any settings in WUmgr.
      The settings are in Windows update.

    • #2454185

      Thanks, @Alex5723.

      Disabling the Windows Update service, sounds like it would be something that would change a Registry value, is that right?

       

      No that I know of.

      • #2454204

        I’m puzzled: if a Registry value isn’t changed by clicking on the WUMgr radio button to disable Windows Update, then how else would Windows know not to download/install updates without the user’s specifically requesting it?

        As (maybe) a backup for this idea: the screenshot that you showed above, isn’t that from GPE, and if so, doesn’t GPE work on/with the Registry to apply the user’s selections?

      • #2454231

        I’m puzzled: if a Registry value isn’t changed by clicking on the WUMgr radio button to disable Windows Update, then how else would Windows know not to download/install updates without the user’s specifically requesting it?

        Actually, it does change a value in the registry.

        It changes the NoAutoUpdate value under the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU from 0 to 1

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    • #2473832

      Running a “trial” Windows 11 PC here, and would like to run with WuMgr. I’ve searched around, but can’t find any mention of how the “regular” Windows update option(s) should be set, i.e. paused, resumed – and any other settings which might affect the proper operation of WuMgr. Thanks in advance –

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