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    https://twitter.com/panos_panay/status/1445118704115585033 So for those of you in Australia, heads up!  Windows 11 is on the roll  
    [See the full post at: A rolling release to Windows 11]

    Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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    • #2393738

      Non starter for my PC’s none can run Windows 11 for one reason or another. I am sure many will find this out as they try and get the upgrade.  No, I am not buying a new PC just to get a new user interface.

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    • #2393741

      I assume that Win 11 will be a staged, “staggered”, rollout, as was the case with Win 10.  It probably won’t be immediately available for all “qualified” devices on Oct. 5Th., rather be prepared to stay with Win 10 for the foreseeable future. When you are eligible to install Win 11, do it carefully and prudently.

      • #2393744

        I am AKA “Captain Obviously”. LOL!  Any way good luck when you get to install Win 11 on your device(s).

    • #2393742

      Worldwide seems a stretch given that Microsoft hasn’t re-released the PC Compatibility Checker, yet. Does the AskWoody crowd have a lossless way to convert my system drive from MBR (master boot record) to GPT (GUID Partition Table)?

    • #2393740

      Stay your ground. Too many perfectly serviceable computers are being dumped as victims of  update madness.

      I had to replace my monitor but my tower could be out of this lot

      Still on Windows 7 and don’t trust the hardware enough upgrade to Win 10. Hard drive is too small for starters. However, performance is excellent and it easily does what I need it to do.

    • #2393747

      The MCT already has it available.  I have downloaded the ISO.

      Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
      "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
      "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

    • #2393748

      Is W11 still forcing the grouping of icons in taskbar?

       

    • #2393764

      For the moment I’m running Windows 11 Pro Version 21H2 (OS Build 22000.194).

      I don’t do clean installs just upgrades.  The Windows 11 ISO balked at my unsupported hardware, so I inserted the Windows 11 install.wim into the sources folder of my Windows 10 installation media and ran setup from there.  No hiccups with that.

      No word on how Windows update will behave, although Windows update says I was last checked 16 minutes ago and I’m up to date.  I’m gonna make some of my basic changes, then drive this thing around the block a few times.

      The Taskbar icons can be moved to the left corner, which also makes the menu open in the left corner of the screen.  I much prefer that it not open in the middle of the desktop, so at least that’s an improvement over my first go with this thing.  StartIsBack++ is gone, and they don’t have a Windows 11 version yet.

      My Intel Driver and Support Assistant app had two driver updates for my WiFi/Bluetooth PCIe card for Windows 11, and they installed without a hitch.  So far everything is copacetic.

      Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
      "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
      "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

    • #2393779

      bbearren, as you wrote: “The Taskbar icons can be moved to the left corner, which also makes the menu open in the left corner of the screen.

      My guess would be that this is the most sensational revelation here tonight.

      Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

      • #2393780

        My guess would be that this is the most sensational revelation here tonight.

        I can’t take credit for that tidbit, I had read about it previously at Windows 11: The Ars Technica review.  ArsTechnica is one of my go-to sites for in-depth technical (as opposed to ‘techy’) information.

        Shifting the taskbar left was the first thing I did after the OOBE finished and let me at the desktop.

        Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
        "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
        "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

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    • #2393808

      Dedoimedo has posted two pieces for tweaking Windows 11, featuring his trademark no-holds-barred style:

      https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-11-usability-tweaks.html

      and

      https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-11-performance-tweaks.html

      And then there is his fearless forecast:

      https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-11-like-vista-8.html

       

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    • #2393817

      Ladies ad Gentlemen: My return to Windows has, once more, been postponed sine die.

      Why? Because something like this does not surprise me:

      Dedoimedo:

      Now, Windows 11 is coming. As I’ve done many times in the past, I logged into my Insiders account and started testing, to see what awaits me. Right away, I found the experience quite dejecting. My early impression of Windows 11 Dev Build was mediocre at best, and it progressively got worse with each update. Different from Windows 10, though. What happened was, I found myself reliving 2011, when I tested Windows 8 and came to pretty much the same conclusions.”

      No surprises, then? No surprises.

      Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

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      • #2394411

        Ladies ad Gentlemen: My return to Windows has, once more, been postponed sine die.

        No reason at all to return.
        enjoy your new time for literature and the fine arts,

        ~
    • #2393822

      There are 2 blocks (VirtualBox and Cốc Cốc browsers) for Installing Windows 11 even on compatible PCs :

      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-21h2

      “Compatibility issues have been found between Oracle VirtualBox and Windows 11 (check here)
      You might be unable to start Virtual machines (VMs) and you might receive an error.

      Compatibility issues with Intel “Killer” networking software and Windows 11 (check here)
      Internet speeds might be slower than expected on affected devices.

      Compatibility issues have been found between Cốc Cốc browser and Windows 11 (check here)
      Cốc Cốc browser might not open on Windows 11”

      Got this when opening Windows Update.

    • #2393836

      I see lot of reports about Windows 11 bringing new design and UI updates, that people actually like or dislike. Its everybodys choice. At this moment, Im downloading Windows 11 ISO, so I can try it myself.

      From the reviews, snp layout looks as a good idea. Personally I do not care about new icons, or round corners (that were present in Windows XP anyway), but I am interested in performance on the same HW. I want to compare Windows 10 vs. Windows 11 by performance.

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    • #2393837

      I want to compare Windows 10 vs. Windows 11 by performance.

      Microsoft VBS apparently cripples gaming performance in Windows 11 even on supported CPUs

      UL benchmarks, the creator of popular 3DMark and more, has noted that there can be an impact on the performance, especially related to gaming tasks, due to VBS. It has stated:

      In our testing with pre-release builds of Windows 11, a feature called Virtualization-based Security (VBS) causes performance to drop. VBS is enabled by default after a clean install of Windows 11, but not when upgrading from Windows 10. This means the same system can get different benchmark scores depending on how Windows 11 was installed and whether VBS is enabled or not.

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      • #2393840

        Yes, security is not free, it definatelly eats some resources.
        Im not sure about the performance yet, seems little bit sluggish with comparsion to Windows 10 VM with half RAM size as my current installation, but Im working on it. I have a spare machine, where CPU-Z will do the testing for me.

        First impressions are:
        1) Windows looks more colorfull and round.. OK why not.
        2) I like the option to switch desktops from the Windows bar (GNU/Linux style), I like that.
        3) Underneath UI, its the same system (control panel, dialogs, computer management, ..)
        4) ms-settings: app looks better now! But still one instance can be openned.
        5) I dislike new context menu in file explorer, especially “show more” option, which takes me to the old context menu. With old design 🤦‍♂️ not appropriate for touch devices.
        6) I dislike small sliders to scroll windows, same as in Windows 10. Again I find this not good for touch devices.

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      • #2394134

        Dell Latitude E6530, Intel Core i5 @ 2.6 GHz, 4GB RAM, W10 20H2 Enterprise

        HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

        PRUSA i3 MK3S+

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    • #2393842

      I dislike new context menu in file explorer, especially “show more” option, which takes me to the old context menu

      How to restore the classic File Explorer context menu in Windows 11

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    • #2393844

      Windows 11 will be the new Vista

      Regarding Windows 11 system requirements, the author said :

      If you judge these from the perspective of Windows 10 EOL in 2025, they aren’t bad. But that’s four years into the future. From the current perspective, they are ridiculous. This is just like Vista.

      Just what I had in mind.

      I also agree with the author with the rubbish system menu. If I were to install Windows 11 the first thing I would do would be to replace that menu with something that work for me.

      Well, once I get the ISO files and have some free time, I am going to see if I can ignore the system requirement and install Windows 11 to a disk with the MBR partition scheme in VMware Workstation. But I will not install it on any of my systems. Most of them are not supported by Windows 11 anyway, including my main computer.

      Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

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      • #2393849

        Windows 11 are better looking Windows 10 for me, cant see any fundament, that makes the difference. I wont definatelly roll Windows 11 in our enterprise 4 years before Windows 10 EOL, we have much to do with keeping up to date (upgrading) Windows 10 versions every two years, because of its lifecycle. Not mentioning forced upgrade of MS Office apps. I do not have the time to bend the system over and over again, because someone decided that is better for me to have two context menus. What a letdown, whats the purpose of keeping two kinds of the same thing. Then they will disable one of them, because vulnerability is found.

        Windows 11 for new computer at home? OK, go ahead, you will be satisfied, its a good looking system, if that is what you are looking for. Especially at large screens.

        At home I still happily run GNU/Linux and I do not perform any unnescessary actions to keep MY computer running as I like it. Fedora is free, well behaving operating system for ordinary user.

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        PRUSA i3 MK3S+

      • #2394288

        With the help of the Universal MediaCreationTool :
        https://gist.github.com/AveYo/c74dc774a8fb81a332b5d65613187b15

        I was able to make English and Traditional Chinese versions of the Windows 11 ISO (Build 22000.194) files containing the Pro / Education / Enterprise editions. Using these ISOs I was able to install Windows 11 Pro into a VMware Workstation virtual machine on my system with an unsupported CPU, without TPM, and using BIOS mode instead of UEFI secure boot. All hardware checks were skipped. I installed the latest version of Open Shell to replace the system menu.

        This shows quite clearly to me that Microsoft’s Windows 11 “system requirements”, at least in this just released version, is a ridiculous joke. The current Windows 11 is able to run on systems with older CPUs without TPM and boot from a disk with MBR partition scheme using BIOS mode.
        Win11
        I am pretty frustrated by the rubbish system menu and the so-called “new” right-click context menu. I will avoid Windows 11 for as long as possible if Microsoft thinks this is the way of Windows 11 going forward.

        Open Shell (at least the start menu part) seems to work fine in Windows 11 for the most part. But it still shows “Windows 10” when I use the Classic menu.

        Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

    • #2393855

      My Intel Driver and Support Assistant app had two driver updates for my WiFi/Bluetooth PCIe card for Windows 11, and they installed without a hitch. So far everything is copacetic.

        I presume you installed W11 and Then manually ran the Intel Asst App — I watch Drivers with HP Sppt site Help BUT have never had to Update Drivers Right After a Version Upgrade. IF you open Device Mgr and — Look for Yellow Triangles — Is THAT the best way to know where you stand?

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      • #2393879

        I presume you installed W11 and Then manually ran the Intel Asst App

        No.  I have an Intel motherboard, DH87RL.  My Intel Driver and Support Assistant app loads at logon, and I don’t have to do anything other than agree to download and install Intel updated drivers particular to my motherboard.

        Shortly after Windows 11 finished the OOBE, I got a notification that Intel had two available updates for me, both for Windows 11.  Clicking on the notification opens the Intel Driver and Support Assistant web page, and shows me my motherboard specifically.  After downloading and installing the two driver updates, the page did a system scan to check for any other drivers, and pronounced me up-to-date.

        Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
        "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
        "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

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    • #2393882

      Windows update appears to be working on my unsupported hardware installation of Windows 11 Pro, at least as far a definition updates for Microsoft Defender.

      Whether it will work on other updates remains to be seen.

      As for what techie writers are saying about Windows 11 Preview, I’m really not interested.  I don’t do clean installs, I don’t do VM’s.  I run on hardware only, and there are, believe it or not, differences, some of them not so subtle.  That’s why I have abandoned VM’s and Insider Previews.  The RTM installed on hardware will tell me more about what I’m interested in.

      As best as I can observe, Windows 11 is not the least bit slower than Windows 10.  The logon process seems to be a bit snappier, but I have nothing definitive on that.  I’ve ripped out Quick Access and the other ‘Special Folders’, which I also did with Windows 7 and Windows 10.  That only requires importing a few .reg files.

      As I have stated previously, I’m gonna drive this thing around the block a few times, maybe make a couple of trips to see how I like it and how it behaves.  The Start Menu sucks out loud, but I don’t really use the Start Menu much at all, using desktop shortcuts and pinned apps for the most part.  I can wait for a third party Start Menu in the meantime.

      Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
      "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
      "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

      • #2394076

        Windows Update is working fine on my unsupported system too. Not only MS Defender defintiions was offered but also MSRT and .Net 3.5 and 4.8 updates too.

        Various forums agree, so far, that unsupported systems, which will not receive updates via Windows Update, will be able to download and install manually. A method that, on the other hand, a considerable number of users of this forum have been doing since Windows 7, following the MS-DEFCON system.

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        • #2394097

          Various forums agree, so far, that unsupported systems, which will not receive updates via Windows Update, will be able to download and install manually.

          Looks like a victory in the end. To have full controls of updates.

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    • #2393891

      I finished the upgrade a few minutes ago. I used the installation assistant. It all went smoothly. I did not keep track of the time it took as I continued to use my PC during the process. All seems good so far. I have been and continue to run the latest Insider Preview in a VM so I’m already pretty familiar with the Windows 11 landscape. All my settings seem to have survived the upgrade. Still checking things to make sure all is OK.

      NOTE: if you use the installation assistant, it will automatically reboot your system 30 minutes after the installation reaches 100% unless you take action.

       

      --Joe

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    • #2393903

      I decided to create a full backup of my Win 10 system and then do an in-place update to Windows 11.  (I used the MCT to create an installation Flash Drive).  All went smoothly and I am fully up and running with no issues detected (as yet!)

      I may go back and do a full clean install in a week or so, just to ensure I have got rid of any old “junk” created by numerous builds of Win 10 over time).

      My Rig: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core CPU; ASUS Cross Hair VIII Formula Mobo; Win 10 Pro (64 bit)-(UEFI-booted); 32GB RAM; 2TB Corsair Force Series MP600 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD. 1TB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 NVME SSD; MSI GeForce RTX 3090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC; Microsoft 365 Home; Condusiv SSDKeeper Professional; Acronis TI 2021 Premium, VMWare Workstation 15 Player. HP 1TB USB SSD External Backup Drive). Dell G-Sync 144Hz Monitor.

    • #2393939

      3 options to install Windows 11 and bypass TPM requirement

      Users still need to have UEFI BIOS and Secure Boot enabled to install the new OS.

      These methods has already been discussed on askwoody but here they are presented in one post.

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      • #2393969

        Users still need to have … Secure Boot enabled to install the new OS.

        Not true.  I do not have Secure Boot enabled.  I have my TPM 1.2 disabled (which hides it from the OS).  I have been running UEFI/GPT for years.

        And I’m giving Windows 11 a thorough test drive on my unsupported hardware.

        Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
        "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
        "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

    • #2394001

      And here I am going to the total opposite end and installing Ubuntu yesterday. 😀
      I’m still running deferral-managed Win10 Pro on 2 of the desktops in the house, but otherwise… I’m going to try to ‘daily drive’ Ubuntu for awhile and see how things go. I have Win11 compatible systems, but they’ll never receive the upgrade as long as I control them. Win10 to Ubuntu looks to be my eventual upgrade path.

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      • #2394099

        If Gnome drives you nuts, try Budgie, it’s a Linux / Mac desktop, almost the same as windows.  Ubuntu’s beneath.  I really like it.  Very customizable, gnome extensions can be added without changing the appearance.

        During installation of Ubuntu there’s a minimal option (leaves out libre office and many other non-essentials) that’s great for older machines.  Full Bloat Ubuntu (or any other Too Big distro) gets piggy and can really slow an older computer.

        Good side is, in two years of Ubuntu on our home server with auto-update on, not one update issue, it just runs!

    • #2394018
    • #2394019

      Windows 11 just got a whole lot better.  StartIsBack has released StartAllBack, a customizable Start Menu with lots of goodies.  It eliminates a lot of unnecessary mouse clicks required by the Windows 11 Start Menu.  There is an upgrade fee for StartIsBack licensed users of $2.99.  It’s more than just the Start Menu.  Visit the link for more information.

      As far as the OS, I haven’t noticed any drop-off in performance at all.  The only hiccup I had at all so far is having to reinstall Audacity.  Everything else I’ve tried is working normally.  Also, Windows Update is still checking for updates, last checked at 6:02 PM Eastern.  I’ve received three virus definition updates for Microsoft Defender today, but I’ll still have to see how update plays out overall.

      Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
      "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
      "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

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    • #2394054

      quote from the tweet:   …”Can’t wait to see what you do with it!…”…  –  Hmmm, I’m confused, is this a slip of the tongue or a data harvest warning?

      (Moderator edit of html)

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      • #2394057

        No just a marketing person talking about deployment.

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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      • #2394127

        This is quite funny, thanks for the observation.

        Does anyone know what is the date of end of life for Windows 11? When will Windows 12 come?

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        • #2394137

          Does anyone know what is the date of end of life for Windows 11? When will Windows 12 come?

          No.

          Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 build 19044.1320 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

    • #2394100

      Win 10’s a de facto rolling release.

      I wonder if that MS person understands what “rolling release” means? (No.) Users want cutting edge updates?

    • #2394171

      Does anyone know what is the date of end of life for Windows 11? When will Windows 12 come?

      Servicing timeline :

      36 months from release date:

      Windows 11 Enterprise
      Windows 11 Education
      Windows 11 IoT Enterprise

      24 months from release date

      Windows 11 Pro
      Windows 11 Pro Education
      Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
      Windows 11 Home 1

      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/faq/windows

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      • #2394179

        For each annual version. Until?

        Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 build 19044.1320 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

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      • #2394308

        Thanks, that is extra six months for each version.
        That might be because of annual release cadence? Windows 10 have semi-annual, if im not mistaken.

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        HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

        PRUSA i3 MK3S+

    • #2394295

      Windows 11 Windows Explorer Memory Leak

      Whenever you open windows explorer and close it, the ram it uses is increased by a few MBs without going down when you close it. For example: When I turn on my pc, Windows explorer uses 60mb, and then when I open a random folder, it reaches 80, and when I close the same window, it only drop to 70mb, not 60. and after I open and close a folder multiple times, it reaches a 1 GB!! even after closing everything! The only way to bring it back to normal is by restarting windows explorer from task manager or restarting the computer….

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      • #2394346

        Windows 11 Windows Explorer Memory Leak

        I am unable to replicate that issue.  On the other hand, my installation is an upgrade over Windows 10 Pro on unsupported hardware, not a clean install.  Also I am using StartAllBack,

        “Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug
        Restore and improve taskbar
        Restore and improve File Explorer UI
        Restore and improve context menus
        Restore and improve start menu
        Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency
        Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started”

        The highest memory usage I get in just opening File Explorer is 12.5MB.  Opening and closing File Explorer multiple times makes no difference, memory usage starts fresh every time with no cumulative memory acquisition.

        Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
        "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
        "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

    • #2394271

      Hi folks,

      Sorry about the long absence. I just recently celebrated my one year anniversary of my retirement. Some of you may recall it was an unexpected retirement. LOL

      Of course I updated my main home pc but I had an issue with a broken windows firewall with the first try. I tried the usual attempts to fix, sfc, dism, troubleshooter. No good. I finally reran Setup a second time and all is now working as it should be.

      I have my backups in order so I look forward to a clean install soon. c-ya!

       

      Red Ruffnsore

    • #2394374

      Users updating to Windows 11 get the Windows 10 taskbar and the start menu doesn’t work at all

      Updated to Windows 11 using Microsoft’s official update assistant . I still have the old taskbar and the start menu doesn’t work at all …

      …What worked for me was to make a new local user account, make that account an administrator. Then log in with that new account and check if everything works now. If it does, then I would suggest moving everything from the old user account to the new user…

    • #2394400

      Analysts Don’t Recommend Businesses Rush to Windows 11, Despite New Security Features

      Businesses should wait until late 2022 before considering a full upgrade to Windows 11, analyst firm says.

      (~55% of PCs in enterprise are not Windows 11 compatible according to survey)

      If you own a business and are thinking of upgrading to Windows 11, you might want to wait. Yes, even with the OS’ new security features. Analyst firm Gartner is recommending its customers to take time to prepare and avoid rushing in before adopting Windows 11, according to The Register.

      Specifically, Gartner’s research vice president, Stephen Kleynhans, recommends businesses should do an evaluation of Windows 11 starting in 2022, before introducing an implementation phase after the second half of 2022 when Windows 11 22H2 ships….

      • #2394529

        If your company runs Windows 10 version 20H2, you could wait until May 2023. With upcoming versions even more.

        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-enterprise-and-education

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        • #2394531

          Doriel, I think there ought to be a law: Never be a first adopter of Windows Latest Number, or of practically anything, on penalty of making some truly bad decisions you may live to regret.

          Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

          • #2394533

            Yes, definately in companies, you should not be an early adopter. Give developpers time to debug their specialized products – SAP, AutoCAD, Catia, SpinFire, AccuMark, …

            Dell Latitude E6530, Intel Core i5 @ 2.6 GHz, 4GB RAM, W10 20H2 Enterprise

            HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

            PRUSA i3 MK3S+

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      To deliberately bypass Win11 hardware and Internet requirements.

      I did the following on a home built computer some 10 years old with a Haswell CPU, 16Gb RAM, and no TPM or Secure Boot.

      Download Win 11 64bit to a USB memory stick using The Microsoft Creation tool.
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      1) install to an SSD to the point where you see the “This PC can’t run Windows 11”

      2) start a command prompt with Shift+F10

      3) regedit. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup

      4) right-click on the “Setup” key (left column) and select “New > Key”. Name the new key “LabConfig”

      5) right-click on the newly created “LabConfig” key and select

      A) “New > DWORD (32-bit)”. Name the new value “BypassTPMCheck”. Set it to 1.

      B) “New > DWORD (32-bit)”. Name the new value “BypassRAMCheck”. Set it to 1.

      C) “New > DWORD (32-bit)”. Name the new value “BypassSecureBootCheck”. Set it to 1.

      6) Close regedit; close the command prompt (“exit”)

      7) On the open window “This PC can’t run Windows 11”, Click the back button arrow (top, upper, left).

      8) proceed as normal with installation

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      Wait till you hit the “Let’s connect you to a network” screen during the install.

      Disconnect computer from the internet by removing the Ethernet cable.
      Install will detect that their is no internet and Offer you the opportunity to create a local account.

      Leave internet disconnected until install is complete.

      Reconnect internet

      Check for and install updates.

      Play with it.

      First impressions — Win 11 looks much better than the Ugly Win 10 which in my opinion was worse than win 3.11 which I started with.

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      mbhelwig

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