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    I’ll try to be brief but I wanted to get word out about a utility program that helped with my Windows 10 install.

    Although my Windows 7 PC worked well and had no corrupted system files, my system had corrupt settings and configurations that prevented me from installing Windows 10. When I would download Win 10 thru Windows Update it would error out with an 8007005 error or some other obscure error. I could not launch the Win 10 setup from inside the Media Creation Tool because my PC couldn’t even invoke the tool. I even tried to run the setup from a Windows 10 install DVD I had created on another PC and that too failed. Bottom line is that I was totally out of options to install Win 10 on my PC so I called Microsoft and got hooked up with a 2nd level support Tech who ended up spending 2 whole days working on my PC.

    What finally worked for the Microsoft Tech was a Windows Repair tool that he downloaded and installed on my PC from http://www.tweaking.com. This repair tool had a ton of check boxes on the left of the screen and he checked almost all of them except those that didn’t pertain to my Windows 7 Pro OS. Once he fired off the repair process the tool swept thru my whole PC returning all of my setting and configurations to their default settings. After a quick restart I popped in the install DVD and my Windows 10 install went off without a hitch.

    So, if I had found this utility program on the web I would probably have been hesitant to try it but since the Microsoft Tech used it I wanted to get the word out as this utility might help someone else with their install. In fact, I think that had I known about this tool and knew it was safe to use, I think I would have run it before I even attempted to install Windows 10 as I think it would have made the install go the first time instead of the 25th time.

    Hope this helps someone.

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    • #1520562

      Nice one Moon, and thanks for sharing 🙂

      Lugh.
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      • #1521655

        YES Iam stillllll trying to install so here’s hoping moondoggy is my savior. Before I throw this laptop out the window and go play with me dog instead. oh moondog I am wondering what kinda bucks it cost to get help from a Microsoft tech?
        a week of total frustration,mosie

        • #1521686

          YES Iam stillllll trying to install Win10 so here’s hoping moondoggy is my savior. Before I throw this laptop out the window and go play with me dog instead. oh moondog I am wondering what kinda bucks it cost to get help from a Microsoft tech?
          a week of total frustration,mosie

          Just cut out the middle man and go straight for http://www.tweaking.com and remember to run the program in Safe Mode after creating a full system image.

        • #1521710

          YES oh moondog I am wondering what kinda bucks it cost to get help from a Microsoft tech?

          The amount I paid was ZERO. Microsoft is trying their hardest to make the migration to Windows 10 as smooth as possible so they’re actively trying to identify problems and come up with solutions to the upgrade so they’re probably waiving their typical support charges. When you call them don’t expect to be immediately assigned to a 2nd tier support tech. Instead you’re going to be assigned to someone in 1st tier support who will assess your situation and try a few quick fixes but they have limited time that they can spend on the phone with you. When 1st tier support fails to resolve your issue they will setup an appointment with a 2nd tier tech the for a call back.

          I think the number I called was 1-800-642-7676 and you’ll have to go thru a automated voice answering system before you get to tech support. Don’t be surprised if there’s not a considerable queue when you call. Just be patient.:rolleyes:

        • #1524125

          I too struggled for days and days with countless failures. For some reason I checked for a Bios update, found one, installed it and bam, the next Win10 update worked. Why MS didn’t catch it when it assessed my system is unknown. I had the C0900101-30018 error. Best of luck.

    • #1520568

      Can you remember if the tech ran the program in Safe Mode as it’s designed to do ?

      Shane the Author of the program will be pleased that even MS techs are using his program – he’s busy creating an upgrade, possibly to work on Win 10.

    • #1521700

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1521764

      Thanks all, I have run every thing that was recommended around here and read everything can find at windows support and also Aaron Stebner’s WebLog after doing a refresh so am really at me wits end so am calling support after doing “another backup”. What gets me is laptop a yr old and never had troubles such as this during all the yrs with Winxp desktop. (I know enough with WinXP) .

      • #1521826

        Thanks all, I have run every thing that was recommended around here and read everything can find at windows support and also Aaron Stebner’s WebLog after doing a refresh so am really at me wits end so am calling support after doing “another backup”. What gets me is laptop a yr old and never had troubles such as this during all the yrs with Winxp desktop. (I know enough with WinXP) .

        Shane, the author of Tweaking.com WR is helping someone else with the same problem on his forum and he has posted a suggestion in Reply #20 of http://www.tweaking.com/forums/index.php/topic,3459.0.html

        Unfortunately it doesn’t appear to have worked for the OP of that thread, but you could give it a go.

        I’ve posted the link as I don’t like to take credit for someone else’s work.

        Have you run a sfc /scannow to see what that reports and I’m not sure if I caught which version you are upgrading from.

        Win 8/8.1 also has dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth that can be run from Command Prompt (Admin) if that applies to you and you can see what that reports.

        That cmd is the equivalent of the System Update Readiness Tool for Windows lower than v8.0.

    • #1521813

      Add me to the list. I couldn’t get Win 10 to install. Downloaded and downloaded (99%) but wouldn’t complete and go on to the install schedule routine.

      Following your recommendation, downloaded and used Tweaking … took almost 2 hr, but then all went as expected and now I’m writing this from W10.

      Thanks

      • #1521827

        Add me to the list. I couldn’t get Win 10 to install. Downloaded and downloaded (99%) but wouldn’t complete and go on to the install schedule routine.

        Following your recommendation, downloaded and used Tweaking … took almost 2 hr, but then all went as expected and now I’m writing this from W10.

        Thanks

        Thanks for the post. It’s always nice to here that someone benefited from a post you’ve made on the forum. This made my whole afternoon. :rolleyes:

    • #1521869

      I first tried Windows Repair in May 2013 and was very impressed with the results.

      Have since used it many times on computers that had various kinds of problems, but have found it particularly effective for fixing Windows Updates errors and those vague “permissions” errors in Event Log.

    • #1521924

      I managed to install Win 10 just fine; but, the system got corrupted after a few days. One of the moderators referred me to tweaking.com which did a slick job of sorting my machine out. I also am singing that tool’s praises. Glad that you had good results, moondoggy.

      • #1522069

        Moondoggy I wish I could give you a huge hug in person for your post about this wonderful tool. I am gonna buy the pro version because after using every tool I could find for a week, and doing a refresh and running that SubInACL tool and still no Win10, I am posting from my new Win10!
        Tweaking.com took a full day to fix but this am I was able to install Win10. And NO problems with win10 at all.
        XOXOXOXOXOX to ‘Moondoggy’ for sending me to Tweaking.com And huge hugs to all the wonderful and patient members around here for trying to help me for a week also. I love this forum and so thankful I followed ‘Fred Langa’ to here!
        Maureen

        • #1522985

          Moondoggy I wish I could give you a huge hug in person for your post about this wonderful tool. I am gonna buy the pro version because after using every tool I could find for a week, and doing a refresh and running that SubInACL tool and still no Win10, I am posting from my new Win10!
          Tweaking.com took a full day to fix but this am I was able to install Win10. And NO problems with win10 at all.
          XOXOXOXOXOX to ‘Moondoggy’ for sending me to Tweaking.com And huge hugs to all the wonderful and patient members around here for trying to help me for a week also. I love this forum and so thankful I followed ‘Fred Langa’ to here!
          Maureen

          I think I’m going to blush from all the hugs and kisses :rolleyes: I’m so happy to hear from those that tried this utility and were successful in getting their PC upgraded to Windows 10. Before I retired I was an IT Support Specialist and I know how important it is to share a hint, a tweak or a fix with others out there as you never know when you’re going to get paid back by someone else’s hint, tweak or fix. Hope it continues to work for others that may see this posting.

    • #1523394

      OK, I downloaded it and gave it a try. No dice, still getting that same error and 10 will fail. It tells me that I have a couple of problems that it can’t fix, and so far I have not been able to correct either. I am about ready to just say the heck with it and wait until I can do a clean install.

      • #1523415

        OK, I downloaded it and gave it a try. No dice, still getting that same error and 10 will fail. It tells me that I have a couple of problems that it can’t fix, and so far I have not been able to correct either. I am about ready to just say the heck with it and wait until I can do a clean install.

        Well, that’s a bit problematic. Until you upgrade and your upgrade registers with Microsoft, you cannot do a clean install unless you pay for a complete new license. If you can upgrade then you can do a clean install but not until. My recommendation is to call Microsoft at 1-800-Microsoft and as them to help you with your issue. You will first be assigned to a 1st level support person that can only spend a little amount of time with you but once they get to that point you will be setup for a 2nd level support call at a specific time of day. They will help assist you in getting your problem fixed. Not the easiest process but that’s what happened to me and they finally got me working.

        • #1524262

          Until you upgrade and your upgrade registers with Microsoft, you cannot do a clean install unless you pay for a complete new license. If you can upgrade then you can do a clean install but not until.

          Moondoggy451, I replied to your OP and am going to try the tool at some point. One of the things I mentioned in my reply to your OP is that the Level 2 tech I talked to said that if you can boot to the DVD created with the Media Creation Tool and choose to do a “Custom Install” (which is what I’m going to have to do) that Windows 10 will activate fine. From his description, the “Custom Install” is kind of like a “lite” version of a clean install; meaning that your data will be saved in a “Windows.old” folder (like an upgrade install) but that programs will have to be re-installed much like having done a clean install. The main difference is that the copy of Windows 10 will activate. Once that’s done then, yes, you can also go back and do a true clean install if wanted.

      • #1523468

        OK, I downloaded it and gave it a try. No dice, still getting that same error and 10 will fail. It tells me that I have a couple of problems that it can’t fix, and so far I have not been able to correct either. I am about ready to just say the heck with it and wait until I can do a clean install.

        If you register and post the WR log on the http://www.tweaking.com forum, Shane the author and site owner will trouble shoot it for you.

        You can’t do a clean install until after a successful upgrade unless you purchase Win 10, but seeing if the upgrade problem can be resolved could produce a report whether there are any compatibility problems which the clean install may not.

        There have been quite a few with Nvidia graphics who have found weren’t compatible and if you fall into this category then you will have wasted your money buying Win 10.

        If you do fall into this category and want to persist with Win 10, having purchased it, further expense would be required in getting a newer graphics card.

        If you contact MS to try and sort the problem, tell them you have already run WR and they may want to see the log.

    • #1523507

      I agree with Sud015 that it’s better t try and find out why you can’t upgrade first and I’m starting to hear more about graphic cards being an issue as well. I have an AMD card that is no longer supported by AMD because it’s about 6 years old. Although I successfully upgraded to Windows 10 when I startup the splash screen is displayed then the screen goes black for a long time before I get to the logon screen. This is just a temporary condition but because it extends the logon time it’s a bit annoying. It’s been suggested that this condition is caused by an issue with the video driver but since my card is no longer supported I can’t get a newer driver and I’m afraid to uninstall/reinstall the existing driver for fear that I’ll end up messing up a functional system that does work great once it boots. Now I’m waiting for 30-60 days to insure that stable drivers exist before I buy a more updated card that also supports DirectX 12. In your case if you have a Nvidia card and it’s the hardware at least you’ll know what the issue is and you can deal with that by installing a new card prior to making another upgrade attempt.

    • #1523721

      just found this forum…wish i had found it a week ago! lots of good info!

      my solution with being unable to upgrade to windows 10 was to do a clean install of my windows 8.1…then let it get the updates and then upgrade to windows 10….so anyone who feels the need for a clean install for multiple problems but doesn’t want to buy a license for windows is to clean install with windows 7 or 8.1.

      • #1523755

        just found this forum…wish i had found it a week ago! lots of good info!

        my solution with being unable to upgrade to windows 10 was to do a clean install of my windows 8.1…then let it get the updates and then upgrade to windows 10….so anyone who feels the need for a clean install for multiple problems but doesn’t want to buy a license for windows is to clean install with windows 7 or 8.1.

        The problem with clean installs is that you need a valid retail key as an OEM sticker or vendor generic one will leave your machine with an invalid key when using an OEM machine and will void any possibility of getting a free upgrade.

        • #1523756

          The problem with clean installs is that you need a valid retail key as an OEM sticker or vendor generic one will leave your machine with an invalid key when using an OEM machine and will void any possibility of getting a free upgrade.

          There are other problems as well as many people who have Windows 7 have a version that’s terribly old (i.e. pre-SP1). Unless you’re tech savvy enough to be able to build a new Windows 7 install DVD by slipstreaming SP1 into your original installation files, a clean install of Windows 7 could take hours to apply.

    • #1523777

      http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/software/operating-systems/1401617/how-to-clean-install-windows-10-and-create-boot-media

      according to this article (and i’ve seen the same on a couple different articles on win 10)
      once you upgrade a win 7 or win 8.1 to win 10 YOU CAN THEN do a clean install of win 10 using a dvd you made, and skip wherever it asks for a product key and when you are done your win 10 will be activated automatically as win 10 was previously on that machine.

      • #1523823

        http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/software/operating-systems/1401617/how-to-clean-install-windows-10-and-create-boot-media

        according to this article (and i’ve seen the same on a couple different articles on win 10)
        once you upgrade a win 7 or win 8.1 to win 10 YOU CAN THEN do a clean install of win 10 using a dvd you made, and skip wherever it asks for a product key and when you are done your win 10 will be activated automatically as win 10 was previously on that machine.

        If someone has successfully upgraded to Win 10 then there won’t be any need to perform a clean install of it.

        I think the clean install that was referred to – at least the way I understood it was to clean install the version you were upgrading from so that it would be error free.

    • #1523819

      Thanks for the info about the nvidia graphics cards. That is what is in both of my machines, so that could be the problem, The other problem that I have is with Reparse junctions. Tweak finds and reports them, and offers to fix them, but upon a rescan I find that they are still there. All windows updates install just fine, only Windows 10 is a no go.

      • #1523824

        Thanks for the info about the nvidia graphics cards. That is what is in both of my machines, so that could be the problem, The other problem that I have is with Reparse junctions. Tweak finds and reports them, and offers to fix them, but upon a rescan I find that they are still there. All windows updates install just fine, only Windows 10 is a no go.

        Register and open a thread on the http://www.tweaking.com Support Forum and post the WR log where Shane will troubleshoot it for you.

    • #1523827

      I must be the only person who had a terrible experience with tweaking.com. After reading all of the positive comments here I thought I would give it a try. In my case it was an unmitigated disaster. It did its thing and when it rebooted everything was gone. Without going into detail, after about four hours of trying Windows Repair and everything else I could think of, I finally got my computer back. On my laptop, I downloaded a program called “Easy Recovery Essentials” from NeoSmart Technologies: https://neosmart.net/EasyRE/ The Pro version is being provided free for Windows 10, although I don’t know how long this will last. I booted from the Easy RE disk and within a few minutes the computer was back. I had to manually fix a few things but nothing that was a problem for me.

      Tweaking may well be a very good program and I somehow screwed up, but I would not use it again. I have screwed up before but never have I been so afraid that I had lost everything. I have backups but y’all know what a hassle it can be restoring them. I am not saying anyone should not use, or stop using, Tweaking. But it certainly would not hurt to download a free copy of Easy Recovery Essentials. I believe it to be an excellent tool to add to the arsenal. It sure saved my bacon.

      • #1523836

        While the program advocates using it to back up the registry first, I always think a full external system image is the better insurance before undertaking what could be making major changes to your system – but Coochin has never had any problems with his extensive use of it in repairing others systems.

        If you used the new 3.4.2 version and you had problems with it, then I’m sure Shane would welcome the feed back and maybe see if anything had gone wrong, but he does extensively test before releasing his upgrades.

      • #1523837

        OK, I just checked and Tweaking has a new update out that says it should have the reparse points solved, I have the pro license, so I updated it and am in the process of giving it another try. I sure hope that the nvidia graphics can be resolved, as one of the computers that I have been trying to update is a HP laptop with the graphics built in. If that is a killer, then I will just have to continue to run win-7 on it.

    • #1523895

      Well, success at last! I am posting this from Windows 10. Took me the better part of four days, but at last it is upgraded and running.

      • #1523934

        Well, success at last! I am posting this from Windows 10. Took me the better part of four days, but at last it is upgraded and running.

        So, did the upgraded version of Windows Repair from Tweaking.com fix the problem you were having and if so, was that what was holding you back from upgrading to Windows 10?

    • #1524191

      Thank you! Thank you!

      I downloaded and installed the Windows Repair program from http://www.tweaking.com on three different machines. (I had forgotten about this tool that a MS technician had used on one of my machines about four or five years ago.) On each of the three machines the various install methods failed early and methods such as using MediaCreationToolx64 wouldn’t even load. After running the Windows Repair program (twice as recommended) I was able to install Windows 10 on two HP laptops. One was running Windows 7 Home Premium and the other was running Windows 7 Ultimate.

      On my “high end” desktop with Windows 8.1 Pro the Windows Repair helped me get much farther along in the upgrade process. I can now load the media creation tool to do a direct install or to create an install USB drive. I can now get into the install process up to “Making sure you’re ready to install”, but the SetupHost.exe file crashes with the error message, “Modern Setup Host has stopped working”. I have yet to find a solution for this problem. After five days of trying to get the three upgrades to install I am just about ready to give up and call MS support for this last machine.

    • #1524258

      I’ll try to be brief but I wanted to get word out about a utility program that helped with my Windows 10 install.

      Although my Windows 7 PC worked well and had no corrupted system files, my system had corrupt settings and configurations that prevented me from installing Windows 10. When I would download Win 10 thru Windows Update it would error out with an 8007005 error or some other obscure error. I could not launch the Win 10 setup from inside the Media Creation Tool because my PC couldn’t even invoke the tool. I even tried to run the setup from a Windows 10 install DVD I had created on another PC and that too failed. Bottom line is that I was totally out of options to install Win 10 on my PC so I called Microsoft and got hooked up with a 2nd level support Tech who ended up spending 2 whole days working on my PC.

      What finally worked for the Microsoft Tech was a Windows Repair tool that he downloaded and installed on my PC from http://www.tweaking.com. This repair tool had a ton of check boxes on the left of the screen and he checked almost all of them except those that didn’t pertain to my Windows 7 Pro OS. Once he fired off the repair process the tool swept thru my whole PC returning all of my setting and configurations to their default settings. After a quick restart I popped in the install DVD and my Windows 10 install went off without a hitch.

      So, if I had found this utility program on the web I would probably have been hesitant to try it but since the Microsoft Tech used it I wanted to get the word out as this utility might help someone else with their install. In fact, I think that had I known about this tool and knew it was safe to use, I think I would have run it before I even attempted to install Windows 10 as I think it would have made the install go the first time instead of the 25th time.

      Hope this helps someone.

      Wow! You have described EXACTLY what I’ve been going through for the last couple of weeks. EXACTLY! I was able to boot to the DVD I had created (on a different PC as my Media Creation Tool wouldn’t work either) but didn’t run the install from there . . . yet. My Level 2 tech said that I could run a “Custom Install” from booting to the DVD and my copy of 10 WOULD register/activate properly however I would have to re-install all my programs. It seems like it’d be a “lite” version of a clean-install. Before I do that, I’m going to try the tool you recommended. As I always have multiple backups of any important data and have 2 separate disc images of my current setup, I won’t have anything to lose if the tool doesn’t work. I will definitely give it a go.

    • #1524397

      Thank you, Moondoggy!!! Merci beaucoup, cher! Like you I had dozens of ‘failed’ updates in my log(sometimes several/day as I tried numerous other ‘fixes’ listed in other threads. After waiting to see other replies here I finally bit dat bullet las nite, running WR twice as they suggest, wit de complete powerdown shutdown each time. The first took so long dat sandman wouldn’t let me sit thru de second time so I lef it to do it’s own ting. When I got up dis morning de update was waiting for me to say ‘go’ and went smoother than on my laptop. – Time, tweaking, and a few days/weeks of reboots will tell 😉 !!

      • #1524474

        Happy to hear about another success story. Note to those following this thread…. The author of Windows Repair has been updating his program to help more people resolve their issues and if you’re still not successful in repairing your PC he’ll even offer some assistance that will help him improve his program even more.

    • #1525866

      Thought I might update this again…..

      I had a problem with my PC last week that forced me to restore my hard drive from an image taken 1 day after I upgraded to Windows 10. After the restore I discovered another problem and while trying to fix that other problem I ran Windows Repair found on http://www.tweaking.com. I won’t go into the details of the other problem, but prior to running Windows Repair my PC was displaying a black screen for about 16 seconds between the Windows 10 splash screen and the Log In screen. After running Windows Repair I’m now only seeing the black screen for about 1 second. Although I cannot specifically tell you what Windows Repair fixed but obviously a drop in the black screen duration time by 15 seconds tells me that this utility fixed something. Before this change I was about ready to spend $200 on a new video card but 1 second is tolerable so I’m saving my money. The other noteworthy thing about this is that after I upgraded to Windows 10 I assumed hat my PC would have been very clean of errors, corruptions, etc. but after the restore of my backup, Windows Repair found a lot of things wrong with my PC after the upgrade to Windows 10 so if you’re having any problems or suspect that you’re having an issue I would run this free utility to see if it doesn’t straighten things out.

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