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    #2013184

    Starting yesterday, after correctly entering my email and password I’m shown a screen (still directly on Amazon) with a button which will send a verification code to my email to verify my account.

    There are 2 things that make this strange.

    The first strange thing about this is that this account is close to 10 years old and I’ve never seen anything like this before. Not even a few years ago when Amazon was hacked and made everyone change their passwords.

    Secondly is that I’ve never had 2FA enabled or any other device except this computer attached to this Amazon account. I don’t even own a cell phone.

    This also doesn’t appear to be directly affecting anything with how the account is actually working and none of the settings have changed.

    This also doesn’t seem to be like what people report with randomly receiving phishing texts or emails purported to be from Amazon.

    If I don’t click the button after entering my password, the code never gets sent and if I click the Amazon logo at the top of the page it takes me back to the homepage like I never entered my email and password.

    What little info I managed to find that sounded anywhere close to this was talking about people receiving forgotten password reset texts when someone was trying to hack their accounts.

    That is not whats happening here, there are no links in the verification emails at all. Just the verification code and the standard wall of text about Amazon caring about your privacy and security.

    I have also cleared my cache and cookies twice with no effect.

    Has anyone else seen anything like this before?

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    • #2013198

      I’ve had this coming through intermittently, not concerned about it. I think Amazon is adding an extra layer of security randomly, especially when there hasn’t been log on action in awhile. Basically, the only concern I have when the added security feature is absent, is with myself as a reminder how frequently I shop at any point in time. IMHO there shouldn’t be any worries.

      MacOS, iOS, iPadOS, and SOS at times.

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      • #2013207

        Ok, I should have said this in my original post, but I actually like the idea that its there I just wish they wouldn’t do things like this at random.

        In the long run I sincerely hope Amazon announces things like this if they decide to add it to more accounts.

        • #2381418

          Amazon must be so wealthy that they don’t care if they lose a few customers because of this.

          I have had to source alternative suppliers because I cannot get into my Amazon account which I have had for over 15 years.  The real pain is that it means I can’t buy any more Kindle books.

          • #2396778

            Yes, they are! and yes they have lost a lot of large spending customers. Imagine that amazon is losing over $20K per year only from a single customer such as myself. They were keep sending me those stupid hyperlinks to approve sign ins. I called several times and told them to stop it because it was an insecure method of verification. Finally, when they didn’t stop, I deleted all my accounts after two decades of membership. I remember shopping at Amazon when they started their business. This is the price we pay for creating such monsters.

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        • #2553316

          This recently happened to me I’m not sure if it’s related but my account was hacked and I’ve lost almost three thousand dollars Amazon doesn’t seem to care! Had to open new bank account and will never trust Amazon and all the holes in their security ever again!!!

      • #2502716

        I have the same issue; I’m on the Amazon site all the time. About every 3rd time I go to add something to my wish list I need to stop what I’m doing, open my email & authorize it’s me doing this. You mean to tell me, by now, they don’t know it’s me? I’m not doing anything different, I’m on the site several times a week. It’s not like I’m only on the site a few times a year! What’s going on?

      • #2538405

        I just talked to amazon and they said this was the first they heard about it and they are investigating.. I suggest everyone should call 888-280-43331 … something is fishy here.

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        • #2541603

          They know all about it.  They just don’t care.  They (customer service phone, live chat and email) in boiler rooms in  India.  I got locked out of my account two weeks ago and have spent hours with countless people giving the same useless advice.  They end up with “I can’t do anything.”  Some even hang up, and what can you do?  Nothing.  There is no one to report them to.  I own over 1000 Kindle books plus movies and TV shows for streaming that I can’t access (at least $7000.00 worth) plus I have two books published with KDP that I can’t access, including one where they “can’t” pay me royalties because my bank info is “invalid” (I guess amazon never heard of a cashier’s check).  Anybody here locked out?  You have my sympathy, but don’t hold your breath.  There is a Facebook group with stories just like the ones here and more.  Amazon does not care.  If they did, their customer service would be in the United States.

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    • #2013206

      I have not seen this so far. I use Chrome to access my Prime account, and my default browser, Waterfox, to track deliveries using the links in the emails from Amazon telling me that my order has shipped and that, by clicking on them, I can go to an Amazon page where I can track them. On both cases, everything is still as it has been for quite a while already. Perhaps this is being deployed gradually and not everybody has been included yet in the new system?

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

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    • #2013209

      Amazon has been using these random extra requests for logins for sometime.  It hasn’t bothered or even concerned me, if they want me to login again, I just do it.  That’s even with 2 factor authentication.

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      • #2419187

        It isn’t so much that I dislike going through the extra checks, what I really resent is not being given the option to NOT have to do them. I live alone, my device is password protected and there is nothing personal on it. But still I am treated like a 2 year old without a brain in my head. (Just to be PC my apologies to all those 2 year olds)

      • #2424639

        That’s because your privacy and your rights as a customer are not important to you or to Amazon; many people don’t feel that way. That’s why customers have been leaving Amazon to shop elsewhere. A lot of us prefer to pay a little bit more money to other stores to be treated better and not like a 2-year-old, as mentioned in comments. In my neighborhood for instance, most people dislike Amazon because of that extra checks. Now you can see more boxes being shipped from Walmart, Target, BestBuy and etc. instead of Amazon boxes. So practically Amazon is pushing customers and throwing money away.

        • #2424693

          I keep reading these complaints. I often buy things from Amazon because they are not available in shops where I live; also stream movies and shows. Never in several years by now have had a problem (and I just checked again, same result), beyond having to login to start a session the normal way not just there, but at pretty much every site I access on line: with user name and password. I wonder what others might be doing differently that creates for them such an inconvenience they are forced to complain about. As I would, except I have no reason to. Could it be that I have it easy because I live in the USA? Or could be because I subscribe to Amazon Prime? Has something changed since before I subscribed, when it was the same for me as it is now? Or is it because I am accessing Amazon’s site from a computer, not from a cell phone? Can’t really think of anything that can make an obvious difference.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
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          • #2425847

            Dude! these complaints are from here in the USA. These folks are talking about both computer and phone logins. Don’t you ever clear the cache on your browser or disable tracking? Have you heard of online privacy? Amazon is forcing link approve authentication on new devices, browser with cleared cache, deleted session cookies,… disregarding everybody’s privacy, Prime member or not. It’s not just the shops in your area. Local businesses are having hardship because they can’t beat Amazon. Pandemic made it even worse. You seriously should be concerned if you are logging into your Amazon account with just a username and password (like normal sites) because Amazon won’t let you unless they are tracking you. So are we supposed to let Amazon to violate everyone’s privacy for their own purposes? Or let all these hardworking men and women who run an honest local shop to go out of business because they can’t compete with China?

            • #2425871

              ? wrote: “Don’t you ever clear the cache on your browser or disable tracking? Have you heard of online privacy?

              (1) I regularly clear the caches every two or three days and all cookies (no 3rd party allowed) when I close a browser: so far this year close to 1GB of stuff there has gone into the trash and been put outside, by the curb, to be picked up by the urban sanitation squad. If keeping something in the caches for two or three days between cleanings, saves me the annoyances people here are complaining about, then I see no reason to change my current practice. Of course the reason for my being trouble-free may have nothing to do with cookies or with caches, clean or otherwise: Maybe I live a charmed life!

              (2) Online privacy. Yes, I’ve heard of it. Way too much, if you asked me. So I have several addons in my browsers to stop tracking, impertinent advertising, personal info filching, and so on and so forth.

              Not really crazy about it, though: some day we are all going to die, which I would deem not to be a really good thing, but there is no app  or addon for that. I checked.

              I thank you for your concern.

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              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
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            • #2444976

              Thanks, I’ve called Amazon and they couldn’t help.  After reading your comments….  I realized, I reset my computer.  When I did, I realized I made a mistake.  A moment of madness on my part.   I hate Microsoft 11 and wanted to return to Microsoft 10.  I caused myself many problems.   I just discovered clearing your cache.  I’ve done it on my tablet due to Telegram.  Thanks.

      • #2553320

        If I were you I’d check my bank account credit cards and credit score! My account was hacked and everything looked normal for awhile until I really went through my finances to find a lot of money missing in a very clever way Amazon doesn’t care! Could be an inside job?

    • #2013218

      I always logout after each session and start fresh with the next shopping/browsing excursion. These random security sign in requests are part of the Amazon site protection features. I actually appreciate the extra step.

      MacOS, iOS, iPadOS, and SOS at times.

    • #2013252

      Moonbear – you say you don’t welcome the security prompts being “random”.

      I actually welcome “random”, less predictable by people trying to break in.

      Dell E5570 Latitude, Intel Core i5 6440@2.60 GHz, 8.00 GB - Win 10 Pro

    • #2013253

      Starting yesterday, after correctly entering my email and password I’m shown a screen (still directly on Amazon) with a button which will send a verification code to my email to verify my account.

      I got the verification code sent to my iPhone.
      I never keep always connected and sign out at the end of the session.

      • This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by Alex5723.
    • #2013358

      I would like to thank everyone for the quick and informative responses, you’ve saved me a lot of stress. I’ll be marking this as resolved.

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    • #2358856
      • I’m not receiving the codes how do I log in without the code? 
    • #2358926

      Do you have two-factor authetication enabled?

      Once you have received a code – and you can ask for one to be sent – you CAN turn off 2FA.  I would not recommend that as Amazon will not allow you to have other than a valid credit card number in your account.  I don’t welcome leaving a credit card number saved in a website that is secured by a simple password.

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      • #2425873

        ScotchJohn: Indeed! But one still needs to give Amazon a credit card number to buy anything there. Which is the main point of connecting with Amazon, other than browsing to see what’s on offer there and what are the buyers’ comments about this.

        Same difference?

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        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
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    • #2359027

      Not asked for a code sent to me before completing my login to Amazon, here in the USA. I just checked. Only asked for my email address and password, as always. But I subscribe to Amazon Prime, so perhaps that makes a difference, rather than my location?

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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    • #2359038

      They sent me the codes on my cell for about a month and then quit.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #2359045

      I just call customer service and verify they asked to send a code.

    • #2366884

      yes it is happening to me now, i am just going around in circles, it wont let me check out.

    • #2381518

      Just tested my Amazon and was in without any credential request (I never log-out).

      When browsing to view my account details I got verification page with an SMS sent to my mobile
      and an email sent to approve to my Gmail account.

    • #2381564

      I have never, ever had this problem with codes and secret handshakes to do business with Amazon, including just now, when I logged in to watch a video and check if they have some books available I would like to buy. As always, it took me three clicks and I was in. But I am logging in Amazon with my Mac, not with a cellphone or with a tablet, so perhaps that might have something to do with my invariable success? And I don’t mind living dangerously to save myself a bunch of hassles, so they have the number of one of my credit cards to get themselves paid from there. Notice that I wrote “credit”, not “debit” card. There is a difference. If one keeps an eye on things.

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    • #2382454

      For even more fun, go to the Amazon site (your account) and enter “sign in attempt notification” in the search box and see what shows up. It surely makes you wonder on who approves SW at Amazon….

    • #2396803

      As it was earlier on, so it is now: Not asked for a code sent to me before completing my login to Amazon, here in the USA. I just checked. Only asked for my email address and password, as always. But I subscribe to Amazon Prime, so perhaps that makes a difference, rather than my location? Go figure. Just glad that this is not my problem. So far.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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    • #2400154

      I’ve been going through all this and try to re-set my password but each time I’m told my second input doesn’t match the first. Gone through all this a dozen times now. help.

      • #2400162

        As you finish typing each password, have you clicked the eye icon to view what was actually entered?

        Windows 11 Pro version 22H2 build 22621.1778 + Microsoft 365 + Edge

    • #2424877

      AOL email seems to have started this same dual security in the past three weeks.  It’s a pita to me and my wife who are the only ones who have ever used this account.  I called AOL and complained, and it stopped, now it’s back again.  I’m really not looking forward to making another call to someone I can barely understand.

      Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake as soon as you make it again.

      • #2424881

        What you and others complaining here are doing? I have absolutely no problems like yours either with Amazon or with AOL, and I am in contact pretty much daily with both and have not been bothered even once in many so-untroubled years already in the way you, it seems, are.

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        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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        • #2425024

          @OscarCP

          Your lack of having experienced the same rigamarole as the other posters (having to use 2FA) could be from your browser and computer having been fingerprinted over time (years, perhaps?) by Amazon and AOL due to a possible lack of privacy-conserving settings being available in the browser and other software to prevent such a procedure from taking place.

          Chrome, after all, hasn’t exactly been known as a bastion of privacy, given that it’s a Google product.

          However, even Firefox has very recently come under fire for its now-fixed surreptitious data gathering that Mozilla called, I believe, inadvertent.

          I use Firefox with plenty of privacy-enhancing settings enabled but, every so often, I do come across a site that needs me to log in or make a purchase from. I’ve found that the privacy settings I’ve enabled tend to not allow these sign-ins to go smoothly sometimes. On those occasions, I have a copy of Firefox with some of these restrictions removed that I use, and am able to log in without any problem, because it’s being fingerprinted by the site, and it tells me so in it’s privacy “report” that I can obtain by clicking on the little “shield”-shaped icon on the left of the address bar.

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          • #2425066

            Bob99: You might well be right as to why the different treatment I get from Amazon and AOL vs. what others here are complaining they have to put up with.

            There is always this dilemma: how much armor to carry on one’s body for protection against the slings and arrows of ill-meaning foes that might be waiting in ambush vs. how fast is one able to run and dodge and jump as needed?

            We all have to make our choices, and these are conditioned by how we ultimately want to live our lives.

            There is no single good recipe for that; each one has to find that which is a best fit for oneself.

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            MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
            Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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    • #2425018

      This is what I’ve been experiencing:  As one poster said above, Amazon requires a random two part sign in, and I haven’t been bothered by that too much. I don’t sign in to Amazon everyday, and they don’t make me do this every time.

      AOL however has just started requiring me to click on an incomplete telephone number (my home land line) on their sign in screen. When I do the phone rings near me, I answer and get a code number which I have to type in the place provided on AOL’s sign in screen. When I do that, the sign in goes as usual.  Other email names on this account don’t require this, just the main one, and every time I sign in which can be as many as three or four times a day.

      I’m posting this here just to see if anyone else is having this same experience with AOL. It is very similar to the Amazon experience.

      Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake as soon as you make it again.

    • #2425061

      I live in the us and have been hit with these added ‘security’ steps for months now.  For the past year my login to amazon goes like this:

      user name / password

      re-enter password / solve captcha

      loginto email to copy link from email and paste url into address bar

      click allow and hope amazon loads else I have to start login proccess from start.

    • #2425081

      I’ve begun to get this from bank accounts, credit card accounts, Google accounts, and others. I’m not sure, but I think it’s usually when I log in from a different machine (er, device) than the one I logged in on the last time. I use two cell phones, two laptops and two desktops. I get mildly annoyed sometimes with the question at the end asking if I want them to remember the “device” I’m using, because they don’t always do so. Frankly, though, I’m fine that they’re doing it, because I’ve been remiss about activating 2FA on all the accounts I should have done it on. Or, is there something I don’t know about 2FA being a bad thing?

       

      • #2425088

        Harpshot: Every so often, I do get a code sent to my phone by my bank, when I try to login to my account there to see what is up with my money.

        2FA is neither bad, nor adorable: it means some extra work to get connected to a site, and this could be an inconvenience, for example if one has to do something in short order at several different sites that each require a different third bit of personal identification, depending on what type of extra IDs these may be:

        https://authy.com/what-is-2fa/

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        • #2425103

          I never get any 2FA from my bank which support my iPhone’s FaceID.
          I also change my password every month.

          I never got Amazon verification demand nor from eBay.

          • #2425160

            Alex: FaceID is 2FA, if yourself login (or your browser logs you in) with username and password. If your bank only uses FaceID, I think you might consider getting another bank. Just saying.

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            • #2425271

              I don’t use a browser. I use my banking app.
              FaceID replaces the need to login with user/password .User/password are still there when using a password, but there is no text/sms.. for 2FA.
              No one can enter my account using my iPhone’s FaceID.

        • #2425136

          2FA is neither bad, nor adorable: it means some extra work to get connected to a site, and this could be an inconvenience,

          2FA is extremely inconvenient if you change country of residence, as I did six weeks ago, and you acquire a new SIM card and local number for your mobile phone. I doubt whether I could have done much more in advance to avoid numerous catch-22s with various accounts becoming inaccessible due to text messages going to the old mobile number. It’s been a harrowing experience. I was already avoiding SMS-style 2FA and using Microsoft or Google authenticator wherever possible. Beware if you move abroad!

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    • #2425298

      I suppose all of this extra inconvenience/annoyance has become necessary due to the amount of Internet related attacks hitting everyone.  Hopefully it will not get worse, and maybe even get better as measures are taken against certain countries making the headlines these days.

      Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake as soon as you make it again.

      • #2425302

        By any chance, certain countries with lots of those really big nukes?

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    • #2428044

      For the past few weeks I continue to have access to Amazon but as soon as I select MY Kindle it asks for a password and tells me it is incorrect so I change the PW and am able to access this area. Next time SAME – password not recognised so provide a new PW and access area. Today – SAME THING AGAIN – if I try to not create new PW I’m sent through a whole range of drop down boxes just to be told at the end that my PW is incorrect. WHAT IS HAPPENING????

    • #2432224

      Mine doing the same right now

      • #2432243

        Could it be be something wrong with the server handling those “My Kindle ” requests?

        Because I never have done that, and have had no problems at all using Amazon otherwise. For example, I just logged in to track a package expected today with no problems when logging in or with then with being able to get the tracking information: all normal, as it has always been for years by now, in my case. And I buy all sorts of things and stream shows and movies quite often from Amazon.

        Although I use my Mac computer not a cellphone or a tablet. Same story when I was using Windows PCs, all the way until January of 2020.

        Perhaps this “request for verification” problem has something to do with registering with Amazon, opening an account there, with one device and now trying to access their site with another that is not recognized? Instead of “someone just tried to login with a device not recognized” message, users in this situation may get a request to take an additional step to verify that they are really the people with accounts there and not interlopers or imposters.

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        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
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    • #2442350

      I hate the new login ! It’s so annoying.

    • #2443134

      Having the same issues for months now. Not overly excited about it.  Amazon’s focus has changed from “customer obsession” to something else. Their prices are going up more as they add services to the subscription, but I never asked for, nor do I want many of those services. Time for a la carte membership options?

    • #2454129

      I am about to go crazy. I have spent hours trying to get into my Audible account to use my 5 credits. Now I am being asked to put my user name and password in. Then I am told a code will be sent to my cell phone by text. But my cell phone does not receive the code. I have talked to at least 7 agents from Amazon and they all give me security questions that are impossible to answer. Any suggestions short of starting over with my membership which would mean I lose my Audible credits.

      • #2454143

        Amazon has an option to phone you with the code instead of texting it. When the text option doesn’t work, use the phone option.

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    • #2464403

      This past week, it’s happening. Going crazy with this account verification thing. I’m in the U.S., same account for years. I updated my email and it seems since, going in circles. I provide the same info, same IPad, at home, same IP address, and I need to verify with a text, on my cell phone which I don’t use much. Now with Amazon, I’m on my IPad and need to have my cell phone on and nearby. So annoying. I contacted CS to complain.

    • #2464436

      Is it possible that clearing out cookies may invite a more rigorous screening at login to Amazon? Maybe at login, if a cookie is present from a prior session with Amazon, they might reason hey we know this customer – has been here before?

      Honestly do not know and it would not explain the all of a sudden nature. Just trying to guess at some logic to the behavior.

    • #2468404

      I have been getting these for at least around a year. I have a feeling it’s involving how I never tell it to remember me, I always clear all cookies after done with a browsing session (or even in the middle of some browsing sessions), I block numerous trackers, and I block fingerprinting.

      Even logging in with Chrome (as it came with my phone, being Android, but I also have a secondary browser for most stuff) on my phone that it sends the stuff to in the application and as SMS links, it sends the stuff every time with (which obviously isn’t common with Chrome).

      I don’t use a VPN, but with blocking so many trackers and how VPNs make for a second company collecting all your browsing data no matter what (your ISP and the VPN company), I’m better off really not using a VPN for privacy amount.

      As someone said previously, this is very bad for those that would lose access to their phone number (changing country of residence, sometimes carriers don’t let you take numbers with you, and more), plus it’s not good if you have to do stuff while not being able to access your phone for one reason or another (which I’ve had many times over the years). This is one of the reasons I refuse to turn on multi-factor authentication (another part being the technology’s privacy and security risks).
      I generally use extremely long passwords (such as 128 characters long) with no sequences, no words, no dates or similar, and nothing at all relating to my life, and I still change them regularly.

    • #2468422

      Amazon account verification tends to occur during high-traffic periods such as holiday season or during special offers and discounts.

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      • #2468537

        A data point for consideration that I have already mentioned before:

        I never, ever have had this problem and use Amazon quite a lot, year-round, shopping season or not, both for buying things online (more than before, because now I also have a thing about (a) going to places that might be crowded, (b) Covid and (c) being a Senior Citizen being three things that might not be getting along that well these days) and also Prime for entertainment.

        So I wonder if those having this problem access Amazon with their cell phones. I have always done it from a laptop, first one running Windows 7 and now with a MacBook Pro.

        Or have, perhaps, clicked on “give us your phone number, for added security?” I’ve never done that, or plan to do it in the future. Not even by mistake.

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      • #2468598

        Amazon account verification tends to occur during high-traffic periods such as holiday season or during special offers and discounts.

        Correction: I was thinking of another procedure associated with the Amazon site. I always have two-factor authorization.

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    • #2468542

      I never, ever have had this problem and use Amazon quite a lot,

      Me too.

    • #2474308

      I am receiving “Please confirm your Prime Membership” reminders every few days! I am bothered about it on two counts, a) if it is Amazon then why don’t they just say what it’s for? and b) if it isn’t…..? Not happy and its starting to p*ss me off

    • #2485666

      Amazon texted link instead of one-time passcode

      I am used to various sites texting a code number to enter on the sign in page for two step verification.  No problem.

      Amazon has never asked for this when I sign-in with my desktop on the usual sign in page.  I just enter email and password and my account opens.

      Today I happen to click on a link on an email from Amazon notifying me they received my order.  I wanted to check something about the order.  Instead of signing in on my desktop I just clicked the link on the email for “view or manage order”.

      Amazon did not text me a one-time passcode as their site clearly explains will happen with two step verification.  Instead, I received a link with the helpful instruction to just tap the link on my phone.  First, I don’t click links on my phone as I think that is dangerous.  Second, I do not access the internet with my phone.  I send and receive texts and I send and receive phone calls.  That’s it.  I could tap the link all day and it would not work.

      So, I just signed in with my desktop as usual.  Viewed my order.  Got the info I needed and all was well.

      Much later I discovered when they sent the link by text, they also sent an email and I guess I could have confirmed verification by clicking the word “Approve” on the email.

      But here’s the thing.  Amazon says they will text a one-time passcode but instead they texted a link.  I think they should do what they say they are going to do.  The instructions on their website about receiving the passcode by text and entering the number in the box provided on the sign-in page is false information.  That is not what happened.

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    • #2485732

      Wish that you were correct but the texted link from Amazon arrived seconds after I clicked “view or manage order” button in the order confirmation email and at the same time an email verification was also sent to my gmail account.

      I think the texted link came from Amazon.

       

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    • #2485888

      Hope you are right clicking on links in mail.

      I get confirmation mail from Amazon on purchases.
      NEVER text/sms to my phone.

    • #2487495

      I’ve been purchasing from Amazon Canada for more more than a decade; I also have a kindle and prime membership – but every single time I log in now I get sent an email to confirm the security code before I can continue.  I am not able to disable this, despite ‘instructions’ on Amazon’s website.  I want it to end.

      • #2487568

        Changing world. Changing rules. The additional security is there for everyone’s protection.

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        • #2536710

          All is fine & dandy IF IT WORKED!!!!!

          • #2536810

            All is fine & dandy IF IT WORKED!!!!!

            What doesn’t work? Under what circumstances? Please provide details.

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    • #2495441

      I don’t mind that they’re trying to create a more secure environment, but I haven’t received the stupid code and it’s been over 5 minutes! I’m frustrated as all I’m trying to do is get a QR code to return an item that doesn’t fit.

      And so, I go to my phone & can get it to my account with no problem. Thank goodness they haven’t totally messed this up!

    • #2502412

      I was not receiving verification codes from Amazon.com or Amazon.ca.  I spoke to Amazon password department 1-877-345-3364 and they determined via problem solving with me that I had blocked Amazon on my text messages. She had me unblock it and choose another password and now all is working fine.

    • #2503399

      What’s most annoying about amazon’s new verification system when it’s being used by our business is, if the head of our company is absent, there’s no way for the person in charge of supplies to buy them for the company. That’s why we started using other vendors who don’t jeopardize the continuation and functionality of our business.

    • #2534832

      They are doing it to me now also. After 4 years of ordering, (I am on disability), they now want verification on every purchase and there is nowhere to verify it. It is getting really annoying and I may just give all of my business to Walmart & King Soopers now who I also order from.

    • #2535373

      I went on Amazon earlier today and when I signed in they asked me to give a cell phone number. They did, however, have a “Remind me later” button so I clicked on it and got through okay.

      Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake as soon as you make it again.

    • #2536580

      Ever since we moved a year ago and have a new internet provider, I get a request emailed to me every time I sign into Amazon. It is annoying when you are on there every day. It seems that it is our internet provider that changes the IP address or something like that on a daily basis. The same computer has to approve or deny every time I go to Amazon. I’m about ready to give up Amazon.

    • #2536706

      It seems that it is our internet provider that changes the IP address or something like that

      Your Amazon account has nothing to do with your IP address that changes every time you start your PC.
      Amazon account is tied to your mail address and Amazon cookies installed in your browser.
      If you clear your browser’s cookies you are not recognized by Amazon and need verification.

      * I never need to verify myself on Amazon.

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    • #2536709

      I’ve been having the same problem with Amazon for months & quite frustrated & getting angry. Repeated calls to Amazon get’s the problem fixed FOR THE DAY, but the next time I go to sign-in, same old problem is back! Amazon USE to be my main go-to, but if I can’t access my acct. I have no way to even use them anymore. I cant even get in to cancel monthly subscriptions!!!!!

    • #2537655

      Today when I went to logon there was a captcha that I needed to enter. I was thinking great no more approve/deny texts. Not so fast. I still got the approve /deny text. So now three steps to login.

       

    • #2537723

      Amazon account is tied to your mail address and Amazon cookies installed in your browser.
      If you clear your browser’s cookies you are not recognized by Amazon and need verification.

      I believe the same as @Alex5723 that if Amazon detects its cookie then it recognizes you as a returning user.
      (Also see my comments from back on July 19 2022 in post #2464436).

      I suppose this could be tested if one had a couple different browsers (eg Chrome and Firefox). Clear cookies in one and not the other and see which way works best with Amazon.

    • #2541604

      As you finish typing each password, have you clicked the eye icon to view what was actually entered?

      There was no eye when I recently changed my password.  Now amazon says my password is invalid.  It’s possible I entered something slightly different from what I intended (but the same mistake twice?) but there was no way to see what I entered.  I ALWAYS click on an ‘eye’ or the word ‘show’ or whatever to see what I am typing for a password, especially a new password.  It wasn’t there.

      • #2542008

        I thought I had checked 16 months ago that Amazon allowed viewing of typed passwords when changing password, but apparently not:

        Amazon-change-password

        That makes it too easy to change to an unknown password due to keyboard issues.

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    • #2542088

      That makes it too easy to change to an unknown password due to keyboard issues.

      That is why I always create a password at GRC password generator and paste it into a notepad file which I name appropriately and save. Then I paste into the forms.

      🍻

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    • #2542939

      For about a month I’ve been asked to verify my Amazon Prime account each time I try to log in. They send a text message (to my friend’s cell phone because I have none) and ask you to approve it. This may or may not get you into your account. If I tried to edit any of my account information, they also wanted to send a verification text after directing me to sign in again, again, again…. No email contact available any more, didn’t see the chat option, and what good would that do if you can’t get into your account to use it? Customer service phone number also sends you a phone text! Sorry, No Human Available!!!

      Yesterday I was actually successful at getting into Amagod’s Gated Community. I immediately made any important purchases and checked items in my cart, etc.  At least I’m getting something for the Prime Fee I paid. I wonder if part of the reason for all this verification is to hasten customers to make purchases, out of fear they’ll never get back into their accounts again? All of this protocol is strange and new to me and I’ve been on Amazon for years??? Very sad and annoying. 🙁

    • #2544708

      I do not have a computer, only a cell phone. This started happening last week! I used to be able to go to my email and track my packages with one click!! Now, I have to verify every time with a code sent to me by text! I called. It’s because they want me to get there damn app! I hate apps on my cell phone! He said that was my only 2 choices. I’ll just delete my account. No wonder Amazon is loosing money! Control freaks!!

    • #2544718

      I do NOT have any problems signing into Amazon and I do not even have to sign-in when I go to “Amazon.com”.  The page loads, and I’m already signed in.  I use two different computers, a desktop and laptop. The desktop internet connection is via ethernet cable, and the laptop connect via Wifi.

      I use a stand alone router (older Lynksys), not the built-in nearly all ISPs provide with their modem. I use mostly Brave browser.

      I delete the daily accumulation of ALL windows temporary files dated the previous day, and all cookies EXCEPT for the key websites I’m on frequently like Amazon. Ccleaner makes it easy to preserve the cookies you want to keep. It’s under options, then cookies. I keep Ccleaner blocked in my firewall so it can’t phone home every time I load it.

      Once in a while, I’ll delete all cookies then re-permission the one’s I want to keep. The first time I log on the “re-permissioned” sites, a two factor I.D. is usually necessary. And I do have to formally login to Amazon.

      The other thing I do that may help is I use a different email address for most websites. These are not from web sites that create a quick email address. It is all is made easy with yahoo email. You can create up to 500 permanent disposable addresses. I currently have about 350 disposable addresses and they work until you delete them. I do NOT have to remember what email address is for what website because I include the websites name in the disposable address. I use one for Amazon. If some other website spams me using one of my disposable addresses, I know immediately know where they got it. They are also handy when a website won’t “Unsubscribe” me from promotional email. I just delete the disposable address. I also use other email providers, buy none have the disposable address tools that yahoo does.

      I do not know if any one of thing I have outlined truly helps control Amazon, but there has to be some reason why I do not have constant log in issues with Amazon.

       

    • #2544732

      I do NOT have any problems signing into Amazon and I do not even have to sign-in when I go to “Amazon.com”.  The page loads, and I’m already signed in.

      That is because you never sign-out as you should.
      Staying signed-in lets Amazon and others track you easily.

      • #2544863

        That is because you never sign-out as you should.
        Staying signed-in lets Amazon and others track you easily.

        I know you’re right and I’ve gotten lazy if favor of the convenience.  I just signed out of Amazon, and will continue to do that.  It will be interesting to see if I get asked for 2 factor ID every time I sign-in.  I follow up here in a few days.

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        • #2546062

           March 19th:  just signed out of Amazon, and will continue to do that.  It will be interesting to see if I get asked for 2 factor ID every time I sign-in.  I will follow up here in a few days.

          March 23rd:  Since the 19th, I’ve been on Amazon 5 times signing off and signing on each time over 3 days.  All done from the same computer.  None of the sign-on’s  required two factor ID.

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    • #2545228

      I just talked to amazon and they said this was the first they heard about it and they are investigating.. I suggest everyone should call 888-280-43331 … something is fishy here.

      That is not a valid phone number!

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      • #2546142

        I just talked to amazon and they said this was the first they heard about it and they are investigating.. I suggest everyone should call 888-280-43331 … something is fishy here.

        That is not a valid phone number!

        The real phone number is 888-280-4331 (she simply typed too many 3’s)

    • #2546085

      None of the sign-on’s  required two factor ID.

      Amazon cookies persist 🙂

      • #2546257

        Yup.  Checked “Remember me on this computer”.  It’s convenient.

        Do you use it, or do you feel there’s hidden risk, tracking, etc. ?

    • #2546294

      Do you use it, or do feel there is hidden risk, tracking, etc. ?

      I log-off and log-in every time.
      I do keep Amazon cookies for easier log-in.
      There is a hidden risk of tracking..

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    • #2547057

      There is a problem with Amazon and Microsoft Edge.  Amazon seems no longer to remember anything on Edge no matter the settings.  I can log on and off multiple times per day and every time I get the email verification request.

      How do I know it is Amazon not working with Edge?  Because this NEVER happens on Google Chrome on the same computer and operating system.  And because using Edge on every other site than Amazon encounters no problem.

    • #2548517

      I have disabled 2 step-verification, and it still asks me for double verification in order to watch the videos I purchased. This means that family members (who don’t have my phone with a code), cannot watch the videos I bought. I think that is why they are doing it. I have already made my preference clear when I turned off 2 step verification.

    • #2551807

      I have had an Amazon account for many years but this latest nonsense of having my password set aside and a completely nonsense of asking me to enter the symbols below which look as though a madman with a brush has been let loose. I had just bought an item on Amazon but wanted to check something and the whole cracked procedure kicked in again. I did believe Amazon was a good company and used them many times but now I am about to decide I may close account – I have spent thousands of £s over the years but this childish attempt to impress members to go through a nonsense ritual for what seems to be no justifiable reason is something I do not wish to endure any longer.

    • #2551844

      I am happy to have 2FA where the activity is financial. Can’t be too careful these days.

      cheers, Paul

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    • #2551849

      Which of the following tasks would you prefer to undertake?

      • Apply two-factor authorization requiring a nominal period of time?
      • Discover that you have been hacked requiring:
        1. password change
        2. possible spurious credit card charges
        3. possible reissue of credit cards
        4. filing of credit alert
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    • #2554843

      I asked the same question:

      Why do I need a cell phone to sign-in on Amazon on my PC now when I do not have one and I saved my password on my PC on google and that used to work perfectly!

      And my thoughts on getting nowhere are this:
      I basically will never spend money at Crapazon.communist China product seller again!
      Go to the dollar store same quality and no BS.

    • #2557506

      I had this strange thing happened recently. Amazon sent me an OTP (One time password). The thing is, I use my Amazon account on my laptop, which never leaves my place, I have a private WIFI, and I did not share my account. Plus my last order is not valuable, so no need for the OTP. Should I be worried? I went to Amazon security and I changed my password, but the thing with the OTP still freak me out.

      • #2557625

        Someone may have entered the wrong phone number in their account, or an error somewhere, but it is sensible to change your password anyway.

        cheers, Paul

    • #2561622

      THIS IS INSANE! I’m in Germany, heading to a deployment in Africa. I need Amazon to stop trying this 2-factor verification method because I do not get texts on my cell phone because that number is suspended until I return to the states. I can’t get into my Amazon account to turn off that feature. I verified with the code sent to my email–after already putting in my correct username and password. But it STILL wants to send it to my phone too–but of course that code never comes. There seems to be no helpline or chat robot to raise this issue with because I can’t get into my account. Has anyone figured out a workaround???

    • #2562785

      Hi,  I cannot access my account due to changing my phone number because it won’t let me in to update it because of the 2 step verification. I noticed on my app on the TV it will not let me access settings at all because you have go to Amazon.com and login before you can access them. I’m completely done forever with Amazon. They wouldn’t let me close my account even though I verified everything but the 2 step verification.

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