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      • #1984038
        woody
        Manager

        It’s official — and I can confirm. If you install the Win7 patch  KB 4524752 on a Win7 Pro machine and reboot a couple of times, you’ll see the new n
        [See the full post at: Announcing the arrival of the Win7 Pro upgrade-to-Win10 nag, KB 4493132]

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      • #1984040
        Zathras
        AskWoody Plus

        It’s only showing up for me as a recommended update not important.  Windows Update is set to Important Only so (for now) it won’t even try to install.

        Also according to the KB article, the same registry tweaks to block the GWX nonsense from a few years ago are used for this as well.

      • #1984045
        TweakHound
        AskWoody Lounger

        https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4524752/windows-7-sp1-support-notification-for-windows-7-professional
        This update is available through Windows Update. If automatic updates are enabled, this update will be downloaded and installed automatically on devices running Windows 7 Professional…We do not recommend uninstalling update KB 4524752 as it will be downloaded again the next time the device scans for updates.
        Resistance is futile.
        😉

        • #1984047
          PKCano
          Manager

          Just HIDE it each time it shows up!

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          • #1984049
            TweakHound
            AskWoody Lounger

            Yeah, I’m sure we are gonna have to play whack-a-mole with this like we did with the other GWX updates.
            (Please remove the anon comment above. That was me. I didn’t realize I wasn’t signed in.)

            • #1984187
              anonymous
              Guest

              OY! With all that Nagging! And maybe it’s time on all of my laptops to call my Windows 7 OS installs as unofficially EOL! And That’s All Folks with a So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!

      • #1984065
        TweakHound
        AskWoody Lounger

        So I dug out my old block GWX batch file and updated it. Anyone wanna help me out and check it over?
        https://www.tweakhound.com/downloads/block_GWX_V7.zip

      • #1984080
        NoLoki
        AskWoody Lounger

        It is going to be a zombie patch for the next 3 months. Hiding it keeps it temporarily at bay and a registry change is the only way to obliterate the zombie and prevent it from returning. The warning to not uninstall it is interesting. It gives the impression that there will be version updates that have more in store than the first one. Checking the ‘do not nag again’ may only apply to the EOS statement ‘reminder’. They could get overly cute and replace the ‘reminder’ with an ad for W10.

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      • #1984156
        MrChaz
        AskWoody Lounger

        Looks like my Windows 7 x86 hidden files are back in use, it’s been a while.

        hidden7

        illegitimi Non Carborundum
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      • #1984353
        LH
        AskWoody Plus

        Win 7 Pro SP1.  KB4524752 has arrived as Optional/Recommended (italicized) and unticked.  Will hide.

      • #1984359
        RM
        AskWoody Plus

        Just checked Windows Update on my win 7 pro SP1 machine.  KB4524752 showed as an Important update and checked.  I hid the KB.  I wonder if GWX Control Panel would work on this one like it did the last time?

        • #1984366
          anonymous
          Guest

          my question stems from the ‘give me recommended updates the same as important’ or words to that effect. So I ask, before you hid the update, when it was listed on the Important Updates tab, was it written in the upright font marked important or in italics marked recommended?

          • #1984750
            RM
            AskWoody Plus

            The KB4524752 was written in Upright font (No Italics) on the Important updates tab and checked. I hid it and summarize it is going to return in the future.

            • #1984772
              anonymous
              Guest

              See BobbyB’s screenshot below and also compare to MrChaz’s screenshot above. Now to attempt to ask for the fourth piece of information.

              When you view your hidden list, by clicking on Restore hidden updates, does this line identify as Recommended or Important?

              I hope it says Important. This would give a positive indication. If it says Recommended, we have been talking in circles.

      • #1984371
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        gggrrrrrrrr 🙁

        the KB4524752 update has shown up on WU on my aunt’s Win7 SP1 Pro computer today 10/18, woody.
        (in the Important Updates section “upright font” [not italicized] used and “checked” to answer anonymous question)

        gonna hide that one ASAP

        note that KB4524752 is for Win7 PRO only – it does not show up on other Win7 editions like Home Premium and Ultimate as those users will see KB4493132 instead of KB4524752

        that leaves only Win7 enterprise edition w/out the eol nags (unless MS of course tries to issue a different eol notificatation update for that edition in the future)

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      • #1984508
        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP

        Any of these registry keys will suppress the notification

        reg add HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SipNotify /f /v DontRemindMe /t REG_DWORD /d 1

        reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx/f /v DisableGwx /t REG_DWORD /d 1

        reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate/f /v DisableOSUpgrade /t REG_DWORD /d 1

        all are already covered in Neutralize Telemetry script
        https://pastebin.com/zeJFe08G

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        • #1984827
          Carl D
          AskWoody Lounger

          @abbodi86,

          that link for your Neutralize Telemetry script is for the Windows 10 script, does it now also work for Windows 7 as well?

          I do still have your separate script for Windows 7 that I downloaded a couple of months back. Have you combined the 2 scripts into 1 now?

          PC 1: Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H Motherboard, Intel i5-7600 CPU, 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Professional 20H2 64bit.

          PC 2: Asus H81M-PLUS Motherboard, Intel i3-4160 CPU, 16GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1030 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Home 20H2 64bit.

          • #1984861
            PKCano
            Manager

            The script is for Win7.

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            • #1984897
              Carl D
              AskWoody Lounger

              Thanks, PKCano.

              Must have been (another) ‘senior moment’ for me (but, I’m only 62).

              The script is labeled “w10tel.cmd” but I was sure abbodi86 had an earlier version of the script labeled “w7tel.cmd”. That’s why I was wondering if there were 2 versions (one for W7 and another for W10) and they’ve now been combined. I must have been mistaken. My apologies.

              The script does actually run in Windows 10 but all I get are notifications that the scheduled tasks don’t exist or it cannot find the files specified. Not sure if that’s because I’ve already run O&O’s ShutUp10 beforehand – it probably is.

              PC 1: Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H Motherboard, Intel i5-7600 CPU, 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Professional 20H2 64bit.

              PC 2: Asus H81M-PLUS Motherboard, Intel i3-4160 CPU, 16GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1030 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Home 20H2 64bit.

              • #1984938
                abbodi86
                AskWoody_MVP

                I never named it w7tel.cmd 🙂
                the script is for Windows 7 and 8.1 only

                neutralizing Windows 10 telemetry require a lot more than that

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              • #1984939
                Carl D
                AskWoody Lounger

                Yep, just checked with my “archived” earlier version of the script. It is w10tel.cmd.

                Not sure why I thought it was originally named w7tel.cmd – but, I have a file full of W7 and W10 tweaks and utilities, registry hacks, etc. and it is easy (especially for me lately) to get confused with them all.

                My apologies once again.

                PC 1: Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H Motherboard, Intel i5-7600 CPU, 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Professional 20H2 64bit.

                PC 2: Asus H81M-PLUS Motherboard, Intel i3-4160 CPU, 16GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1030 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Home 20H2 64bit.

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      • #1984513
        BobbyB
        AskWoody Lounger

        Thanks for the heads up @Woody and all, this duly arrived today :
        kb4524752-Win7Prox86
        Now do I install or….?

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        • #1984754
          anonymous
          Guest

          Interesting to see that this item, screenshot by BobbyB, is

            • on the important tab
            • presented in upright test
            • ticked, checked

          and still labeled as Recommended

        • #1984825
          anonymous
          Guest

          Apologies BobbyB, I may have interrupted anyone else from responding to your direct question.

          Now do I install or….?

          In my opinion, respect the Big Red One at the top of these pages. Better directions will come in a future Computerworld feature article, after MSDEFCON rises. Thanks for showing what you see.

      • #1984826
        Carl D
        AskWoody Lounger

        I’m surprised no-one has said it yet but what’s the bet that this nag will be included in a ‘security only’ update before next January?

        Just like MS did recently with their telemetry.

        PC 1: Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H Motherboard, Intel i5-7600 CPU, 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Professional 20H2 64bit.

        PC 2: Asus H81M-PLUS Motherboard, Intel i3-4160 CPU, 16GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1030 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Home 20H2 64bit.

      • #1984922
        rowrbazzle
        AskWoody Plus

        Already have the two HKLM registry keys.

        KB 4524752: optional/unchecked/recommended.

        Size: 223KB vs. BobbyB’s 210KB above.

      • #1992122
        Jim C
        AskWoody Lounger

        Woody if you recall, I started getting nagged back in July with a email. I posted the screen shot of it the other forum Win7 beyond End-of-life/Introduction. Never did figure out how they knew, I was using Win 7. Thankfully that was the one and only I got.

        • #1992146
          EP
          AskWoody_MVP

          though did you mention which edition of Windows 7 you are using, Jim C?

      • #2002549
        anonymous
        Guest

        Win 7 update check (Nov 10th.) KB4524752 listed as “important”.

        What was more concerning – and I haven’t had a chance to troubleshoot – was the popup that greeted me: “Windows 10 upgrade couldn’t be installed.”
        Huh?

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        • #2002559
          woody
          Manager

          Now that’s troubling.

          Any idea what caused the popup?

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