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      • #2175629 Reply
        TonyC
        AskWoody Lounger

        I’m planning to perform a clean install of Windows 10 Pro on a new PC. Is there a good reason to perform the installation without being connected to the Internet? My thoughts are as follows.

        I’ve always installed Windows 7 without being connected to the Internet primarily in order to do the following before making the connection:

        1. Install the manufacturers’ device drivers.
        2. Install MSE and the latest antivirus and antispyware definitions.
        3. Set Windows Update to “Never check for updates”.

        Regarding Point #1 when installing Windows 10, I believe that the Microsoft WHQL device drivers might be sufficient for my needs. But I am open to being convinced otherwise.

        I don’t believe Point #2 is relevant on Windows 10 because of the built-in presence of Windows Defender.

        Point #3 does seem very relevant to me because I don’t want a flood of updates occurring without my knowledge as soon as the PC connects to the Internet. As far as I am aware, setting the Windows Update options for Windows 10 Pro according to the recommendations in the document AKB2000016 by @pkcano will achieve the desired result. But, not knowing Windows 10 and having never installed it, I might be missing something.

        The only other relevant issue that comes to mind is that I wish to install Windows 10 using a local administrator account, not a live Microsoft account. I believe that you need to install Windows 10 Home while not connected to the Internet in order to force this. But I also understand that it is not necessary to do this when installing Windows 10 Pro because, at a certain point in the installation, you are explicitly given the option of using a live Microsoft account or creating a local administrator account.

        So, in summary, it appears to me that my desire to be able to manage and control updates is the only reason for installing Windows 10 Pro without being connected to the Internet. Any comments please?

        • This topic was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by TonyC.
      • #2175634 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        You should install Win10 disconnected from the Internet:

        Because if you are connected, you will be forced to create and use a Microsoft ID. If you are disconnected, the local ID creation is hidden, but available to create.

        Because if you connect to the Internet you will get all and any thing MS wants to shove at your computer before the installation is complete. You can update later.

        Because if you are disconnected from the Internet you have the chance to set Windows Update like you want, and change the settings in Settings App to give you some privacy, and set up/change anything else before you are exposed to MS onslaught.

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        • #2175712 Reply
          TonyC
          AskWoody Lounger

          Because if you are connected, you will be forced to create and use a Microsoft ID. If you are disconnected, the local ID creation is hidden, but available to create.

          Hmm! Have there been any changes in this respect in recent feature levels of Windows 10 Pro? I have seen at least one video clip on YouTube showing the installation of Windows 10 Pro and, in that clip, there was a definite option at one point to continue the installation by creating a local administrator account and not use a Microsoft live account.

          Yes, when installing Windows 7, there were a number of other tasks that I used to perform while disconnected from the Internet but the three that I mentioned were the main ones.

          Is there any document in existence that provides suggested privacy settings for Windows 10?

          • #2175730 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            There’s been lots of discussion here about privacy, but I don’t think we have a document as such. There are third-party programs, mentioned in the Tools Forum that try to cut off MS telemetry. I’ve tried to stay away from third-party tools, but that’s just me. I go through the GUI settings pretty thoroughly, have even experimented with removing as many UWP apps as possible in one of my VMs. But I don’t think anyone is really going to have privacy with Win10 without standing on their head, constantly.

      • #2175689 Reply
        Carl
        AskWoody Plus

        I agree 100% with PKCano. To date, I still haven’t created a MS account on my latest build.

        Before connecting to the Internet, I install all the latest chipset and hardware drivers that I previously downloaded directly from the respective manufacturers. After verifying that there are no bangs in device manager, I install the 3rd part A-V I intend to use, disable driver updates in GPO, get rid of unwanted junk, go through privacy settings, etc.

      • #2175732 Reply
        zero2dash
        AskWoody Lounger

        Pro will let you create an offline account in OOBE whether it’s connected to the internet or not.

        Home forces you to have it offline in order to be able to create an offline account (and will otherwise force you to create a MS account).

        • #2176210 Reply
          TonyC
          AskWoody Lounger

          I know that OOBE stands for “out-of-the-box-experience”, and I know conceptually what an out-of-the-box-experience is. But I don’t know what the relevance of OOBE is when installing Windows 10.

          Is OOBE a part of the Windows 10 installation procedure? I have watched some video clips on YouTube on how to install Windows 10, but none have mentioned OOBE as far as I can recall.

          I am planning to install Windows 10 Pro on a completely empty PC by booting from a USB flash drive containing the Windows 10 Pro installation code. Is OOBE relevant in this scenario?

      • #2175742 Reply
        Carl
        AskWoody Plus

        Guides available at TenForums are generally pretty good and constantly updated:

        How to Clean Install Windows 10

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        • #2176302 Reply
          TonyC
          AskWoody Lounger

          Hello Carl

          That is a very useful link. Better than any YouTube video clips on the subject!

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