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    Recently at the office I had to go in and edit the spam settings because I got tired of all sorts of spam and email threats coming into the office. If
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    Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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    • #2580218

      I use Gmail and the amount of spam hasn’t changed in the last years,, about 3-4 a day.
      All are automatically moved to spam folder

    • #2580224

      If you are on Microsoft 365 you can edit the spam levels by following this.

      Work/school accounts only. Not Personal/family.

      Windows 11 Pro version 22H2 build 22621.2361 + Microsoft 365 + Edge

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    • #2580232

      No, but I count myself as very lucky. Just 4 to 5 spam e-mails a year over two e-mail accounts. It’s been this way for over 15 years for me. Using Outlook/Office Pro Plus 2021. Based in the UK.

    • #2580371

      No.

      Our email service provider allows us to flag spam as well as our virus protection software.

      The email service provider analyzes spam reports from all  users and then flags or blocks email from problem servers.

      The bother comes in having to empty the spam folder in Outlook.

    • #2580731

      I used to get very little spam, but about a year ago it started rising dramatically to a level now of abut 30 a day, mostly investment scams pushed by bonkers conspiracy theories to try to get me to trade. A lot of them also seem to be emanating from far right Republican sources (I don’t know the detail because I only see the titles), which is strange because I am in the UK.

      My main email client on my PC is Outlook, which filters them straight out, as does the client on my Samsung tablet. However, Gmail on my Moto G phone does not seem to have a spam filter, so they are annoying there, and on top of that Gmail leaves some emails I have dealt with elsewhere (such as these spams) in my In Box, but that is another issue.

      Chris
      Win 10 Pro x64 Group A

    • #2580733

      The bother comes in having to empty the spam folder in Outlook.

      If you are sure that the emails placed in your Spam folder are Spam and you want to delete them, you can set Outlook up to automatically empty the Spam folder. I set my Outlook to permanently delete all emails in the Spam folder that are 1 day or older; which gives me the chance to view the Spam folder and move any email that I want to another folder.

      Here’s how to set the Spam folder to auto delete:

      • In Outlook’s left Navigation pane, right click the Spam folder and select Properties to open the Spam folder Properties as in the image below.
      • Select the AutoArchive tab
      • Select Archive this folder using these settings:
      • In the box next to Clean out items older than: decrease the number to 1.  Click the dropdown arrow in the time period box to the right and select Days.
      • Select Permanently delete old items
      • Click Apply and then click OK.

      Outlook will now delete all emails in the Spam folder that are 1 day or older.

      Spam-Properties

      HTH, Dana:))

    • #2580735

      Very rarely.  My email is provided by my internet hosting service, and their spam filters are excellent.  I have one outlook.com account that is picked up by Outlook, but that one, too, very rarely gets any spam.

      I do on occasion get false spamming of one newsletter to which I am subscribed that sometimes puts out more than one email per day.  I will notice such a spammed email in the spam folder of that account, and return it to my inbox.

      In general, spam is just not an issue for me.

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

    • #2580730

      I almost never got SPAM mail in my iCloud mail until Google pushed me into adding that email to a recovery option. Then all of a sudden I got lots of email in my junk folder from you guessed it lots of things I search for in Google search. I am not saying Google is the only bad actor for this harvesting, I have also seen this happen for web sites who ask for comments and claim to never sell you address but clearly they do. Makes more sense then ever to have burner emails for anything that may potentially get you harvested for ads.

    • #2580743

      Consider using “Mail Washer” from Fire trust to filter mail before opening in Outlook, etc.

    • #2580753

      I do not use Outlook or Microsoft 365. My email ISP is AT&T, which contracts with Yahoo! to provide the email service. I am using the Firefox browser. Ublock Origin has been doing a decent job of blocking advertisement emails. (If I disable Ublock Origin, these advertisement emails will appear).

      But, there is now another kind of e-mail that is slipping through and this is becoming more and more frequent. I don’t know whether to call it spam or a phishing scam. For simplicity, I’ll call it “fake e-mail”.

      They all purport to be from some legitimate website, whose URL is specified in the email header, and the sender is an e-address from that URL. But the email message itself is about ADT services, solar installation, a lapsed Amazon Prime membership , etc. They all have a “Get My Quote” or “Update Payment Details” button to click on. There is an “unsubscribe” link at the bottom of the message. I’ve been getting 3 or 4 of these fake e-mails a day for the past 2 or 3 months. I haven’t look at the raw messages of them all, but the most recent ones have a return path with a character string that ends in “@netorg12345678.onmicrosoft.com” or ends in “@msn.com”.

      I have sent all of these to the Yahoo! SPAM folder, where Yahoo! mail is supposed to be keeping a record of them and consequently filtering them out in the future, but since the sender is some ever-changing e-address at some ever-changing legitimate URL, the spam filter is short-circuited. For the same reason, it won’t do any good to block the sender. And, I agree with Susan that clicking on the “Unsubscribe” link would only confirm my existence.

      There is some commonality in them all (i.e., in some aspect of the return path). but I don’t see any way in AT&T’s Yahoo! mail to set up filtering rules.

      Here is one purporting to be from riptapparel.co, (a website I’ve never, ever visited), but the email message is about ADT services with a button to click on to get a quote. The URL underlying the quote button is “amj.m0nster.co/ (very long string of characters)”. The e-address in the ‘TO’ line is not my email address, yet the email reached my inbox! (Some of these fake e-mails do have my e-address in the “TO” line.) The return path in the raw message is “<cZP1HyDmqyUKmurHyN@netorg13076102.onmicrosoft.com>”.
      riptapparel

      This morning, I received 2 that are almost the same, with a header that says “www.lacounty.gov”, a “From” address that says “ADT Security Systems <ph@subscriptions.lacounty.gov>”, a “To” address that is my e-address, and a message about ADT services. The “Get My Free Quote: button has a “google.softmedicaly.com/(long string of characters)” underlying it. When I look at the raw message of the 1st email, the return path is “<obKrGembv3RnbMRexp@netorg13028351.onmicrosoft.com>”; the return path of the 2nd email is “<o48NG1tXvnWCOcXC0u@netorg13032052.onmicrosoft.com>”.

      Yesterday, I got fake e-mail purporting to be from “Susan@kidsmatterscouneling.com” . The message was about a lapsed Amazon Prime Membership and contained a button to “Update payment details”. I get lots of these and they have a return path “<1Return.(character string).msn.com>”. I don’t have an Amazon Prime subscription, so I know these are fake.

      I don’t know what I can do to stop them from appearing in my Inbox. And it looks like Yahoo! mail doesn’t know what to do either.

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      • #2580766

        I don’t know what I can do to stop them from appearing in my Inbox. And it looks like Yahoo! mail doesn’t know what to do either.

        They show up in Thunderbird, too. Of course, Thunderbird is just tell me what it sees in my ISP email.

      • #2580772

        Enabling the viewing of images for only those emails you know are genuine might eventually give some respite. As might disabling cookies from all third party sites except from those that are visited.

        Hover over each suspect email sender and any that are spammy, select and spam them – report them as spam – never open them.

        I see ~4-10 per week auto-spammed by Yahoo, maybe one per week creeps into my Inbox.

      • #2581460

        [This reply specifically referenced the post by WCHS, from 8/13.]

         

        My email details line up rather substantially with yours, with a few minor differences.  There is a steady stream of clearly bogus credit card signup or loan offers, none of which would remotely be of any interest — even in the very remote event that they were genuine.  The other predominant spam lately is a daily stream that is supposedly from Zales or a couple other national jeweler outlets.  (I’ve never browsed anything online that might suggest an interest in that consumer category.)  The thing that really stands out with these is that they made no attempt at all to have their (phony, spoofed) Sender’s address match up with the header or ostensible subject.  If I had a dog, even he could see through that !  All of this CRAP just makes processing email much more of a time-consuming chore.  I can and do select ‘Block Sender’ on these, for the future iterations, but they obviously have easy ways of getting around that.  Yahoo Mail just ain’t up to the task.  (Here’s hoping it does not share the 500 Senders or Items blocking limit that EarthLink previously had — which might only stand up to 2 – 3 weeks of this.)

         

        What might be a lot more useful would be an ability to zap emails based on the presence of some recurrent, telltale keyword — like “Zales“, as per my example —  particularly in the header.

         

        I’m leery of entrusting some third-party solution like Mail Washer to deal with this.  You could never be entirely certain that it did not automatically toss out something that proved to be legit and of some importance.

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        • #2581462

          I agree that Yahoo’s filtering is less robust than with others.  Every server has their own implementation, some better, some not so much.

          A parallel problem is that that for many online purchasing sites, they collect your email address for transactional purposes, and then the address gets you subscribed to their “customer engagement” mailing lists, where there is no way to opt out until you get at least one mailing.  And sometimes, it may be months before you start getting that kind of mail.

          For that kind of thing a throw-away address on a free provider can be useful.  I do all my purchasing that way, and marketers never see my primary working address.  The only time I check that address is if I’m explicitly expecting something, and if they start sending me other garbage, I don’t see it.  Yes, I will unsubscribe from something that has been distributed through somebody like MailChimp.  However, if there’s too much unsolicited traffic, then it’s easy enough to abandon the address and start over with a new address.

    • #2580746

      Rarely. Thunderbird sometimes flags a message “this might be spam” or “this looks like spam” and puts it in a junk folder. Those messages have always been from familiar sources, I click “not spam”, and they are returned to the inbox.

      Win 10 Pro, 64-bit, 22H2, Firefox, Thunderbird, Duckduckgo, Office 2007 Enterprise (working fine so far, no reason to change yet, only use Word, Publisher, occasionally Excel).

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    • #2580762

      I too use Thunderbird. I get a comparatively small amount of junk, some of which is from known sources and is not actively malicious (i.e. valid services I’ve used in the past who keep on trying to get me to use them again), and it mostly deals with that, and with the more potentially harmful stuff as well

      It’s by no means perfect though. Occasionally it won’t block glaringly obvious spam, and sometimes it will consign emails from valid contacts to the Junk folder for no apparent reason

      At the moment most of the obvious spam is obvious just because it’s so amateurish. Once the bad actors start using AI to craft more credible enticements then that will be a game-changer, and not in a good way

    • #2580777

      Tons of new spam. I have dozens of filters set which work, and get minimal until last week . These all come from similar domains all registered by Namecheap, redacted and in Reykjavik.

      Examples:

      @qfccba.net

      @agfybc.net

      @agqwcj.net

      @aginam.net

      @agrcha.net

      @agiuae.net

      @ahjdkd.net

      @ahpnbb.net

      @aiiopd.com

      @ajzlbr.net

      @alfume.net

      @rjfcoh.net

      @rkmzgf.net

      @rhphyb.net

      @rksrrh.net

      @rhbuno.net

      @aiqgfz.net

      Most need me to claim some  freebie like Milwaukee Tools at Lowes or free tickets at United Airlines. Some vary a bit.

       

    • #2580794

      My main Accounts generally don’t get spam as I am generally judicious about who I distribute my Email Address’s to, not compared my old ISP Account many years ago that was actually deluged. It was literally every login I was  setting another Email Rule or simply blocking sender.

      However I find Websites that require you to register to receive content that look potentially “Spammy” (is that a real word?) get directed towards a Google Account. Rarely these days do Google get praise, but the amount of spam is minimal with gmail.com and when it comes, it occurs  in episodes for about a week then stops. For some reason my Google address is always CC’ed to some one with a similar name on aol.com, to be honest I thought Aol was consigned to the mists of time and internet History.

      So whatever your doing, Job well done, Google keep it up even though I still can’t bring myself to install the “data slurping” Chrome or leave my browsers logged in permanently to a Google account.

    • #2580838

      I personally haven’t seen a noticeable uptick in spam eMails lately.

      That being said, as a general rule spam eMailings always seems to become more numerous over time. When you see a jump I think it’s just that you are noticing that your eMail address was added to some additional dark web list(s) of potential marks through no fault of your own.

      A potential real problem people don’t think about is that anti-spam measures are taken at the server level… Apparently my ISP must have other customers who spam folks, since now and again the messages I send to folks get rejected by some big relay systems because their entire source server has been blacklisted. That’s frustrating, especially if one is trying to use eMail to maintain contact with customers who need questions answered.

      -Noel

      • #2580881

        I have also seen this general blocking from time to time, probably because the host I use for my domain is one of the most popular in the UK. I keep another service (my ISP) available to send if this happens, and generally the domain host clears the problem within 24 hours.

        Chris
        Win 10 Pro x64 Group A

    • #2580901

      We use GMail POP3 downloaded to the Outlook Desktop. This is a consumer example, not a business one.

      GMail does not include the spam folder when downloading email to our Microsoft Outlook email clients. So we never see the spam and forget it’s there. But we still get plenty of spam on the GMail server that is available to be seen through the GMail web interface in that spam folder. GMail automatically deletes away old spam.

      GMail spam filtering is too good and sometimes filters out mail we want, a false positive problem. But we can train the spam filter to let email from that source to pass through more frequently. We rarely have to log into the web interface to rescue emails out of the spam filter.

      The web GMail UI also has a promotions/social panels/folders that contain message ads, but I never look at those and they are not downloaded either.

      A second-line of defense comes from our Internet Security Suite. Very rarely, maybe once per year, it will catch a really bad phishing email.

      Our “Junk E-mail” folders in Outlook are always empty. Image downloading is enabled by default.

      This leaves us with about one downloaded unsolicited email every three months; we know enough not to click on any associated links and/or attachments.

      But there are a few email sources that refuse to honor my unsubscribe requests. For those, Outlook rules move those messages to the “Deleted Items” folder automatically.

      Last I checked, for all downloaded email, none of our email addresses have shown up at https://haveibeenpwned.com/ yet.

      Windows 10 22H2 desktops & laptops on Dell, HP, ASUS; No servers, no domain.

    • #2580912

      I use Gmail, and I’ve actually noticed an uptick of false positives lately. In fact, about a month ago, one such false positive cost me my dream job. The hiring manager sent me an email which was time sensitive, and I didn’t see it in time. Needless to say, I was extremely upset. (Both with Gmail, and with the fact that the hiring manager didn’t opt to call me if it was so time sensitive)

    • #2580915

      Our email service provider allows us to setup up to 100 alias email addresses.

      We set up a separate email alias for each of our online accounts, etc.

      Then, if we begin to get spam addressed to one of the aliases, all we have to do is delete the alias, create a new alias, and update the impacted accounts.

      • #2581578

        We keep track of our email alias usage by using a spread sheet that contains columns for:

        • Vendor’s Name,
        • Vendor’s Email Address,
        • Vendor’s Web Address,
        • Username (Alias email address),
        • Pass Word,
        • Etc.

        To date, I am tracking nearly 200 companies using this approach.

        If I start getting spam addressed to one of my aliases I simply delete it from our email service provider’s site and contact the vendor to update our contact information.

        What is not included in the spread sheet are medical, financial, and other sensitive listings.

    • #2580945

      Yes. Especially in the last 18 months or so. I figure that whatever spam I get is because I’ve one long-standing e-mail address which I either need to shut down and change, or to get some sort of challenge-response system to filter out the bad actors.

      I had already migrated our files and e-mails away from Google file storage; when the it which is Google started sending me automated notices that it had found things like driver licenses and passports among my files, that was my exit cue. Because they were obviously trying to stretch the definitions of the words privacy and security well past their breaking points. Google’s initial slogan of “Do not evil” was abandoned at least 18 years ago.

    • #2580956

      Hi y’awll,

      Whilst I am not a regular contributor, (I am not a techy by any means), I do read the posts almost every day….just to keep up.

      Anyway, Here’s another vote for Mail Washer Pro. along with “vvrhnl.”

      Been using it for many, many years & never had any kind of nastie/s on my systems.

      Link to their (Firetrust) home page is here > https://www.firetrust.com/

      They have an option for a Lifetime license if wanted.

      Thanks for all the great info. you guys ‘n’ gals supply.

      Mucho appreciated.

    • #2580961

      A quick update/correction…

      I have no affiliation to either Firetrust or MWP…I just use their program.

      A small spelling error…

      I misread the correct name of the 1st MWP poster.

      Should have been “yvrhnl.”

      Sorry ’bout that.

      😉

    • #2581064

      I have not noticed an increase in spam, at least yet.
      I have several email addresses, but Yahoo is my main one from many years ago. I’ve hung on it and here’s why:

      You can create up to 500 unique disposable addresses that do not expire until you delete them. You first create a unique “header” that remains the same. Examples:

      “header” = your unique header.

      header-amazon@yahoo.com
      header-github@yahoo.com
      header-HowToGeek@yahoo.com
      header-netflix@yahoo.com
      And so on…

      I find them a very handy in two everyday scenarios:

      1) Say you’ve subscribed to a Netflix newsletter and you later “unsubscribe” multiple times, but keep receiving them anyway. Just delete the disposable address. You can re-create the same address or a different one later.

      2) If you start getting email from a different website using one of your disposables, you’ll know from where they got it immediately. I used to see this scenario routinely, but it’s very rare now.

      I have created about 350 of the allowed 500 disposable addresses over several years. For me it’s P.O.M.

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    • #2581293

      I noticed a HUGE uptick in spam on one my general addresses back in April/May; It’s always a signal to me that someone was hacked.

      My preferred way to run email is to issue a unique address off my mail server for each and every service I subscribe to; Then I setup those account to auto-forward into my main account.  If I get spam, I know who is responsible (or rather, not responsible) and I can nuke that email account.

      Sadly, I sometimes get lazy and just use my general account it’s more difficult to track down the culprit/leak.  I’m still waiting to see the disclosure/read about the hack that began affecting my general account back in April/May.

    • #2581412

      The place to interact with spam (and false positives) is via the web client for your mail provider.

      These days, most servers (especially Microsoft and Gmail) use a tool called “Bayesian filters” as a part of how they interact with incoming mail.  The idea of a Bayesian filter is that if a message is marked as spam (or not spam) than other messages that are sufficiently similar will be considered the same way.  The Bayesian filter focuses on the entire package of the message (not just the headers).  All it takes is to use the web client’s Junk button to inform the server. As such, it’s good for catching near-identical messages that appear to be coming from different sources.

      Depending on how the server is implemented, a Bayesian filter can force spam into a Junk folder, and in some circumstances, be enough to force rejection of a message entirely.

      With this in mind, it’s also essential to correct false-positives, if a legitimate message gets put in a Junk folder.

      Although stand-alone clients (e.g., Thunderbird, desktop Outlook, etc.) also offer spam-filtering tools, the value of them is limited.  The server tools are a part of the server’s setups and are active at the time the message is being delivered to the server.  By contrast, client tools can only interact with a message after it’s been accepted by the server, and messages already written to the Inbox (or in the case of false positives, the Spam folder).

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      • #2581428

        The idea of a Bayesian filter is that if a message is marked as spam (or not spam) than other messages that are sufficiently similar will be considered the same way. The Bayesian filter focuses on the entire package of the message (not just the headers). All it takes is to use the web client’s Junk button to inform the server. As such, it’s good for catching near-identical messages that appear to be coming from different sources.

        If this is the case, Yahoo! Mail either does not use a Bayesian filter or it is not working well. The raw message of all of the SPAM I keep receiving have “@msn.com” or “.onmicrosoft.com” in the raw message. Yes, Yahoo!’s spam filter is not catching them.

        • #2581433

          Windows 11 Pro version 22H2 build 22621.2361 + Microsoft 365 + Edge

          • #2581443

            Do you Right-click the email in question and select Filter emails like this from the context menu?

            I’ve looked at the link and have right-clicked to see the screen for filtering. I don’t think this is going to work b/c a) the sender address always changes, b) the subject line always changes, and c) the “msn.com” or “.onmicrosoft.com” is not in the body of the email; it’s in the RETURN-PATH — examples are — Return-Path: <1NFZ4PNTgA1lXpbKme@ealbuhdw.onmicrosoft.com> or Return-Path: <ncujhwqjvfwem@msn.com>. I don’t think these lines are considered the “email body”.

            The email body in the raw message does not even correspond to the message I see in the message box. For example, in one SPAM email, the body of the raw message references Cinemark Media, but the message itself (i.e., the message as I see it in the message box) is about ADT services (Home Alarm Systems).

            There is subterfuge at every angle (sender, subject, email body), which makes it impossible for any filtering to work. The only constant info that identifies the email as spam is some part of the Return Path and some part of the X-Originating-Ip and these are in headers, not email body. (For example, the X-Originating-Ip that is associated with the “@msn.com” Return-Path is “X-Originating-Ip: [40.95.”)

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            • #2581482

              When there is a constant – there is a solution in a Thunderbird Filter.

              1 – Create a Filter
              2 – At the bottom of the default list of labels (Subject, …), is Customize.
              3 – Here, insert the Header Label of inspection (X-Originating-Ip)
              4 – ‘Match any’; select that newly defined Label / Contains / [40.95
              5 – You may need to experiment with various criteria (they OR and AND, depending).

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            • #2583600

              There is subterfuge at every angle (sender, subject, email body), which makes it impossible for any filtering to work. The only constant info that identifies the email as spam is some part of the Return Path and some part of the X-Originating-Ip and these are in headers, not email body. (For example, the X-Originating-Ip that is associated with the “@msn.com” Return-Path is “X-Originating-Ip: [40.95.”)

              Two weeks ago I was getting 8-10 fake e-mails a day where some part of the Return Path had the characters “@msn.com”/X-Originating-Ip: had the characters “[40.95.” or the Return Path had the characters “.onmicrosoft.com’/X-Originating-Ip had the characters “[104.47.”. I always sent them to the SPAM folder and sent an email to ‘abuse@yahoo.com’ that had the raw message pasted in the message box. In the last few emails, I suggested a filtering algorithm that would catch these characters in the Return Path and/or X-Originating-Ip.

              For the past three days, no fake e-mails have appeared in my inbox. I’d like to think that Yahoo! has gotten wise to the subterfuge and has figured out how to filter them out!

              Knock on wood.

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            • #2583677

              The last two weeks I’ve had to add a couple of filters, in Thunderbird, to a couple of my email addresses. These could have been combined into one. I haven’t investigated to see if this could be done in a webmail access.
              Filters

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    • #2581444

      The problem with services like Outlook, Yahoo, etc. is over the past 2-3 years they’ve frequently denied legitimate incoming mail that *I WANT* to receive.

      Since Outlook/Yahoo/et. al. are frquently rejecting these messages (not always, but maybe 90% of the time) at their ESMTP servers, the messages [addressed to me with proper DMARC/DKIM/SPF headers from a clean IP] never hit my Inbox (or even Spam folder).  Ironically, spam messages I DON’T want get through (often to Inbox).

      Gmail has also had this issue from time to time, but significantly far less frequently than other mail providers. (Maybe 1% rejection?)

      If an email provider prevents me from reliably receiving ALL my legitimate email (so that it doesn’t even show up a Spam folder), that provider is useless to me regardless of how much legitimate spam they properly kill/block from my Inbox/Spam folder.

      I’m fine with with providers trying to sort real email from spam, but disagree with them censoring/preventing any message from being reviewed by me; if they don’t like a message for some reason, it should always be visible in my Spam folder.

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    • #2581454

      The place to interact with spam (and false positives) is via the web client for your mail provider.

      These days, most servers (especially Microsoft and Gmail) use a tool called “Bayesian filters” as a part of how they interact with incoming mail.  The idea of a Bayesian filter is that if a message is marked as spam (or not spam) than other messages that are sufficiently similar will be considered the same way.  The Bayesian filter focuses on the entire package of the message (not just the headers).  All it takes is to use the web client’s Junk button to inform the server. As such, it’s good for catching near-identical messages that appear to be coming from different sources.

      Depending on how the server is implemented, a Bayesian filter can force spam into a Junk folder, and in some circumstances, be enough to force rejection of a message entirely.

      With this in mind, it’s also essential to correct false-positives, if a legitimate message gets put in a Junk folder.

      Although stand-alone clients (e.g., Thunderbird, desktop Outlook, etc.) also offer spam-filtering tools, the value of them is limited.  The server tools are a part of the server’s setups and are active at the time the message is being delivered to the server.  By contrast, client tools can only interact with a message after it’s been accepted by the server, and messages already written to the Inbox (or in the case of false positives, the Spam folder).

      This is a pretty broad brush and can be misleading. SOME servers have enabled this and even fewer have the ability enabled for a user to interact with it. Mostly reserved for admins or IT.

      And even on your own hosted site and email, CPanel, for example, will not allow you to enable and rate emails as HAM or SPAM until it learns better.

      ZIMBRA email client DOES allow to mark as SPAM, but learns little from a single account. I have not tested it with  GMAIL as I use it through Outlook and therefore not the web client.

    • #2582075

      Edit killed my post, F5 and poof, nowhere to be seen.  Let me try this again.

      On my personal outlook.com account there are a handful of spam messages going to my inbox.  I have to manually mark them as spam.  No reason for this to be happening on a daily basis.  This is a resonably new phenomenon.

      Earlier in the year there was an uptick in the amount of spam I was getting so I started to track it.  Over a three month period the average came out to be 68 spam messages a day.  Most of which were dating messages from the same domain (.yachts, .cloud, .pro, .bio, .ink, you name it, just crazy).

      The above image is what it looks like today.  I usually report these messages as phishing because that is what they are IMO.  I Report them after done checking them at login and again when logging out.  Usually 40 or 50 a day total.

      A while back I got frustrated by the uptick and started viewing the message source which includes the headers and all the other hieroglyphics.  What I discovered was that a bunch of them were AWS (Amazon Web Services) related as told by the sender IP, so I started to forward them to their abuse department hoping they’d get the message that us peons with free accounts are not enjoying their less than solid methodology for keeping their servers clean.  As expected I grew tired of this.  The results were mixed.  It was like they’d start killing them off then it would start back up again.

      There was a time that I had a bunch of keyword filters and IP’s blocked, but I got rid of them after realizing they were ineffective due to the spoofing aspect.

      What I learned from all this is that spoofing makes any serious efforts useless for people like me.  It ebbs and flows as it will.  Simply the nature of having my e-mail address being monetized by the people I do business with.  I do not like it, but am realistic about it all.  Basstages that they are for choosing not to do the right thing by their customers.

      /rant

      Win 8.1 (home & pro) Group B, Linux Dabbler

    • #2583679

      I noticed a definite uptick in spam emails beginning about three months ago on all three of my roadrunner email accounts, but not on my gmail account. The odd thing about these spam emails on roadrunner is that nearly all of them show my main administrator roadrunner email address (my own email address) as the from sender. Obviously I’m not sending myself spam emails; but I don’t want to block my own main admin email address, which the senders are obviously spoofing (replacing their own sender address). I get about half a dozen of these per day in each of the three mailboxes, which I only access via the Chrome browser through the roadrunner email site, and I just delete them without ever looking at or opening them. It really should be illegal to spoof or substitute anything to replace either the source of the email sender or their actual name/title/etc., just like it should be illegal to substitute a different telephone number for the caller’s actual number that they are calling from in the caller-ID feature.

       

    • #2583903

      Getting a bit more last few months. OR there are a lot of Russian women that think I am reeaaly hot stuff. 🔥

      🍻

      Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
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