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      • #1911583 Reply
        Tracey Capen
        AskWoody MVP

        PATCH WATCH By Susan Bradley Recent headlines might make you think we’re deep into a Windows-patching panic. The buzz centered on August’s Windows upd
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      • #1911750 Reply

        The only updates coming up on my Windows 7 Pro x64 are KB 4474419 and KB 890830. Am I to assume that my Norton is blocking the Roll up ?

        • #1911756 Reply
          Da Boss

          The other possibility is that Microsoft is blocking monthly Rollups to PCs with certain Norton products installed. It seems that those products cannot handle updates signed with SHA-2 only. See the MS Support pages for the update you are missing and the Norton website for further information..

          • #1911773 Reply

            Thanks…I will install what I am getting when Woody gives the go ahead and catch up on the missing one in a later roll up after Norton and MS can figure it out.

            • #1911875 Reply
              AskWoody Plus

              I’ve bookmarked the Norton link for the SHA-2 Norton/MS issue. Once there is a fix from either or both ends I plan on installing all August updates at the same time. Hopefully this fix will fit in nicely when Woody moves the Def2 level up. Here’s the Norton link

              Win7 SP1 Home x64, MacOS / Chromebook

              • #1911879 Reply
                Da Boss

                I do not have Norton on my test machines.
                But I have been patching my Win7/8.1 machines Group A with all patches at once and have had no problems.
                In the case of the Win7, SHA-2 KB4474419 v.1 and SSU KB4490628 as well as the older Bitlocker-related KB3133977 had already been previously installed.
                These are test (not production) machines not being used on a daily basis, so I may not have experienced some of the other problems (like VB issues).

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                AskWoody Plus

                Forgot to mention I do have Norton and this is why I’m waiting for their release on a fix for the SHA-2 problem. I’m up to speed as well with all updates through July.

                Win7 SP1 Home x64, MacOS / Chromebook

      • #1912513 Reply

        Susan will need to update her “August update warnings prove overblown” article in that newsletter to include the KB4512509 update for Windows 10 v1803, which Microsoft released this Monday afternoon.

      • #1912831 Reply

        SO glad this site is here!

        I must say, though, that in all the click-bait hysteria,  I am very disappointed that so many InfoSec online sites have been bleating ‘PATCH IT NOW OR…”, including ones that I have been reading for years. It’s especially disheartening to get to the bottom paragraph, and  read something like “…although not in the wild…” Sigh. I’m going to start reading these articles from the bottom up.

        (I brought something like this up in my post )

        Next I guess we’ll be reading about how we should dance around our PC’s blowing horns and banging on pots to scare the IT Incubus and Succubi away.

        Here come the Digital Dark Ages, but not the way the Big Wigs write about…

        Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit ESU, Dell Latitude E6330, Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", Group "Patch List", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations, "Don't auto-check for updates-Full Manual Mode." Linux Mint Greenhorn
        "A committee is the only known form of life that has at least four legs and no brain."

        -Robert Heinlein

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        Norton just updated this morning on my Win 7 and I am now showing KB 4512506 as available. I might also add, that the .Net update KB 4503548 is also showing, but the box is unchecked.

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          Da Boss

          KB 4503548 is the installer for .NET 4.8
          If you are not using any applications that require .NET 4.8, I would recommend holding off on installing it on WIn7.

          • #1913216 Reply

            Affirmative…Never install if not checked rule.

      • #1925367 Reply
        AskWoody Plus

        I have the 8/13 patch recommendations worksheet and am about to approve patches for deployment on 8/30.

        Is there any update to 8/13 list before I approve? Has nothing changed in the list since 8/13?

      • #1925377 Reply
        AskWoody Plus

        We are at MS-DEFCON 2 (posted at the top) and it is not yet safer to patch. Reports are still coming in — and most describe difficulties in either installation or system operations.

        When MS-DEFCON 3 is posted, it will be advisable to patch with caution.

        MS-DEFCON System is here:

        G{ot backup} TestBeta
        offline▸ Win10Pro 1909.18363.959 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox79.0 Windows{Image/Defender/Firewall}
        online▸ Win10Pro 1909.18363.959 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox80.0b4 Windows{Image/Defender/Firewall}
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