As of the end of the year, Penton/Informa media group is handing the Windows Secrets Newsletter and Lounge baton over to the people who started Window
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Best news I’ve heard all year. Excelsior!
HF
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Excellent news. I lamented the effective demise of the old Windows Secrets/Woody’s Windows Watch newsletter and the neglect Penton gave to its lounge. Hopefully this will put what was one of the best resources on the web back to its prime.
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OUTSTANDING (and congratulations)!!
(This is the best news that I’ve read — by far — in more than three years.)
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What a nice Christmas present.
(sans the religion part)
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This announcement seems more geared towards explaining things to Windows Secret users. But what are the big changes that we here at AskWoody will see? You mention the Lounges being merged. But does that mean that the feed here at AskWoody will now contain stuff from all the Windows Secret stuff? Will there be any way to only see the stuff that would normally be on AskWoody? Will @AskWoody be changed to cover everything, or just be for Woody Heck, will these new changes even be on Askwoody.com?
I’m mostly here for the DEFCON system, though I do enjoy reading the articles. I just learned the hard way not to just update when Microsoft tells you do, and eventually found the only site that seems to tell you when updates ares safe.
Anyways, I do wish you guys well. From what has been mentioned about the Windows Secret forums, it does seem like bringing them here is a good idea. And Susan has definitely added to the site–even if the business stuff isn’t relevant to me.
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Great questions!
does that mean that the feed here at AskWoody will now contain stuff from all the Windows Secret stuff?
The main page will continue to be primarily from me and Susan, with continued assists from PKCano. We’ll also have posts from Fred Langa, Brian Livingston (!), and — if you’re a Plus member — the other contributors to the newsletter. I’m also hoping to have more guest posts.
Will there be any way to only see the stuff that would normally be on AskWoody?
The main page will have more material, but it’ll be the same high quality you’ve come to expect. The rest of the Lounge will benefit from a half-dozen highly experienced Windows Secrets Admins and (I hope) all of the MVPs and VIPs. There will be far more depth and breadth in the Lounge, and decades of material to fall back on.
I’m mostly here for the DEFCON system
That’s going to be a key part of the site overhaul. I need to get off my posterior and put together an MS-DEFCON system that’ll handle all of the versions of Windows. At the very least, it’ll have separate MS-DEFCON levels for Win 7 & 8.1, another for Win10 Home, one for Win10 Pro, and one for people who look for individual patches a-la Patch Watch.
There’s a lot of work ahead….
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Please do not discount the value of the content on Windows Secrets. Because it has been running for a long time, and the content comes from many very knowledgeable contributors, some of whom are regulars here, (and not from Penton), there is a great deal of valuable content on it. I have often found that a problem I encounter can be solved by a search on the site and, if not, the loungers can generally solve it for me. Occasionally, I can even help myself!
If Woody and his buddies can successfully merge the content of the two sites, and hold the contributors, we will have an extremely valuable resource.
Chris
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That’s precisely my goal.
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Also, any chance the revised MS-DEFCON system will include some sort of feed so users can be notified when it changes? I do enjoy this site, don’t get me wrong. But there are times where I forget to check for a while.
The feed could be on Twitter, an RSS feed, or even a JSON feed (though the latter is not my favorite.) If @AskWoody links all Woody articles here, I could subscribe to that (and check out other people’s articles if they are relevant while I’m here.)
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any chance the revised MS-DEFCON system will include some sort of feed so users can be notified when it changes?
Yep, that’s the primary influence for AskWoody Plus Alerts. You’ll get an email as soon as there’s a change in MS-DEFCON status, or when something blows up.
I already have a Twitter account, @AskWoody, that’s quite active. And there’s an RSS feed for all the posts on the main page.
Still haven’t decided what to do with the @WindowsSecrets Twitter handle, but I’m phasing out both the AskWoody and Windows Secrets sites on Facebook.
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I was (operative verb, past tense) a Windows Secrets subscriber for YEARS until the fiasco takeover by Penton and then dropped it. Remember their tussle over lifetime subscribers?!? Anyway, I’ll gladly become a donor-subscriber once more — after the merge operation settles into its comfort zone. PLEASE keep us posted here as I rely heavily on the Patch Lady — as I did on Windows Secrets !!
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You said exactly what I was going to say, but you got here first!
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As a subscriber to Windows Secrets since its very beginning, [and also to Woody’s Windows/Office Watch newsletters of yesteryear] I have been so disappointed with WS over the past year or two that I have been considering dropping my subscription. The (almost) final straw was Susan’s departure–for reasons that were never made public (at least to me). This news is wonderful. Now I will not have to make that decision about renewing. Instead I just donated to Ask Woody! And will be delighted to have the best of both efforts henceforth in one package.
Best of luck to all involved in this new undertaking this new year.
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Thanks for the donation!
I’m in the middle of testing a new Plus membership routine. When it’s up (in the next few days?) it’ll be easy to make a donation and get all the benefits of “Plus” — all automatically.
But not to worry. I’ll be setting up a way for donors past — even those who donated months ago — to become “Plus” members. It’ll be on the honor system, but that’s what this is all about, eh?
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This is brilliant news indeed. I stopped my sub on Windows Secrets and used it here instead.
I still check through and occasionally post on the forums there, though it’s pretty quiet now so hopefully some of the old-timers will be back
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I was going to start a new post for this, but since some of my comments have already been mentioned …
From the early days of Langalist I supported Fred’s efforts. Comes Brian and Woody and Susan etal, I couldn’t have barked louder for what really was advice to be heeded. When the “group” was around, their combined efforts resulted in the best place I had found for up-to-date information on everything Windows and a whole bunch more.Places like that are almost impossible to find and all that cyber ink and brain power isn’t totally free, so financial support is a must for it to continue. I still recall reading my first “Plus” News Letter, wasn’t free, but worth every dime I thought. I think I donated $20~ a year, sometimes more when I was flush, then I did this:
That was cool until one by one the reasons I was supporting the site left. Because of those actions the above membership status became almost worthless. I could say it was fun while it lasted, and it was, but the fallout left a bad taste.
It was a different time and different place then, I do hope they make it shine as it once did. In the scheme of all things internet related my support was just a drop in the bucket, but it was my drop.I don’t blame any of them personally, after all, the only thing that remains constant in the universe is change.
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I intend to honor every promise from Windows Secrets, including lifetime subscriptions.
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Thank you, Boss (from another WS lifetime subscriber of the Good Ol’ Days)!
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From the early days of Langalist I supported Fred’s efforts. Comes Brian and Woody and Susan etal, I couldn’t have barked louder for what really was advice to be heeded. When the “group” was around, their combined efforts resulted in the best place I had found for up-to-date information on everything Windows and a whole bunch more.
I too started with the Langa List (I don’t remember how I found out about it), which then became part of Windows Secrets, the best place on the web for computer information and for “hanging out”. I’ll bet there are a lot of folks here who got started with the Langa List.
By the way, Fred, I was always hopeful that I would be one of the lucky ones to get a visit from you to do a “once over” on my computer!
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Ehh, just to be more precise: that Fred you mentioned is nót this Fred who’s writing this LOL
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Excellent! Outstanding! Fabulous! Best end of year news I’ve seen so far. Thank You, and may your transition go smoothly.
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Great news indeed! I was a Brian’s Buzz, pre WindowsSecrets, and Langa List subscriber for a long time. I finally dropped WindowsSecrets when I saw how poor it had become.
I look forward to it going back to the way it was with high quality articles and a decent forum.
Got coffee?
This sounds like excellent news, as well as a bucketful of blood, sweat and tears for those setting it up!
Like many here no doubt, I subscribed to Windows Secrets but the switch to Penton led to a marked deterioration and then we had the downtime debacle, with Susan leaving the final stimulus for me to cancel my subscription. I have donated here, but I’ve no idea when I last did so although I recently asked my children if one of them would kindly give me Woody’s latest book on Windows 10 for Christmas!
In any event, once the new membership scheme becomes available I’ll be donating and following it all with interest. I wish the whole combined team (including the Secrets admins for whom I have a lot of respect) all the very best with the venture.
One suggestion if I may: As part of the “palliative care on the demise of Windows 7” can we please have coverage of how to retain Windows 7 with the minimum risk, but also a beginner’s guide to Windows 10 as many Windows 7 users will want to switch belatedly to Windows 10 and won’t have followed all the comings and goings with that OS since its inception so talk about its myriad of versions will mean nothing to them. Of course, I’ll also have the book by then!
Finally, this seems as good an opportunity as any to thank Woody and the whole team together with fellow commenters both here and at Windows Secrets for all their past efforts, and to wish them and their families a very happy Christmas and a healthy, happy, and successful New Year!
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As part of the “palliative care on the demise of Windows 7” can we please have coverage of how to retain Windows 7 with the minimum risk
Seff, that is a good suggestion, because I know there are a lot of people who want to do just that.
There is already a lot of info along those lines scattered around various forums at AskWoody. I believe the thing suggested most often is to install Linux as your host OS, and then install Windows 7 as a virtual machine within Linux. If you have enough memory (at least 8GB) in your machine, AND if you have a W7 license which will allow you to activate Windows in a VM rather than on the PC itself, you will be good to go for a very long time.
Another thing very often suggested is to install Windows 8.1 as your host OS, and then install one of the add-ons to make it look and feel just like Windows 7. This will buy you an additional three years of support from Microsoft (till Jan 2023).
I’m using both methods at home on two separate computers. Both methods work very well, just depends on your preference.
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Thanks Jim. I appreciate your thoughts.
I’m more interested to be honest in how best (if it’s feasible at all) amateur home users can stick with the system they know and like, rather than having to hide it behind an entirely different system. If I am going to use Windows 8.1 then I’ll switch to that instead of Windows 7, not in addition to it. I have no more interest in Linux than I have in starting to learn at my time of life about virtual machines etc. I either want to maintain my present system with minimum risk, switch to Windows 8.1 (which is only a temporary workaround rather than a permanent solution) or bite the bullet and accept the inevitability of moving to Windows 10. I think of it this way – I’m a simple computer user and I want to use my computer in a simple way!
Your ideas make perfect sense for the more knowledgeable users, and it may be that a couple of complimentary guides will be needed for both categories of user. Or it may simply be that the less knowledgeable among us will simply have to accept the inevitable and embrace Windows 10. My current thinking is that I will probably look to replace one of my two home computers next year anyway and will use that as the opportunity to look at Windows 10 and familiarise myself with it before I end up having to make an overall decision on how best to proceed at the end of the year.
Thanks again.
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Or it may simply be that the less knowledgeable among us will simply have to accept the inevitable and embrace Windows 10. My current thinking is that I will probably look to replace one of my two home computers next year anyway and will use that as the opportunity to look at Windows 10 and familiarise myself with it before I end up having to make an overall decision on how best to proceed at the end of the year.
Dare I suggest an IMac solution? I cannot tell you how over the moon I am with my IMac — very short learning curve and zero monthly MS Defcon headaches. I purchased the cheapest model @ $1,000– if it is in your budget it sure takes all the stress away.
On another note: As a rather Newbie here I was not familiar with the older incantations but please add me to all the well-wishers for the new Woody’s. 🙂
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I’m getting a lot of mileage out of my Chromebook.
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The AskWoody Lounge will change, but you’ll recognize it immediately. No format changes. We’re keeping the bbPress engine, and we’re geared up for a big increase in volume.
Bugs, crashes, errors? Yeah, probably. I’m not perfect. But I think they’ll be brief and handled by a very competent team.
Anonymous posting – yep. That was one of the crazy things I insisted upon. Windows Secrets doesn’t allow anonymous posts. I think it’s important that people be able to post anonymously, for all sorts of reasons. (You ‘Softies will certainly understand.) Every anonymous post will be vetted, as they are now. It may take longer for anon posts to appear, depending on volume, but we’ll keep you anonymouses plugged in.
That said, it’s a whole lot easier to maintain a conversation with a nonymous poster. I continue to urge everyone to get a username, by hook or by crook, and use it.
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^^^ Well there is always at least one, LOL! 🙂
Exciting new! Looking forward to the expanded version with more expert contributors & content!!!
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These changes are very exciting and I look forward to them.
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The more things change, the more they stay the same. I was a subscriber to Windows Secrets when Brian was running the show as well as LangaList. Great to hear and thanks to all of you for the hard work you have done for many, many years and continue to do so. All of you have educated me and made my job a lot less troublesome over these many years. Your contributions have been and will continue to be invaluable to all of us adventuring in tech land. I hope everyone contributes whatever they can here and support these legends of tech. It’s worth every penny.
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Great news, and very pleased to read that there will be a separate DEFCON for every version of Windows (for those still supported, I suppose?).
Also, not too clear on this point: Will there be an annual subscription that has to be renewed and paid for every year, e.g. via PayPal, or it will continue to be supported with donations? (I donate every year, anyway, but this question might be asked also by others here.)
Also, as I prefer not to get a lot of emails and warnings, since I visit the site regularly to see what is going on, is there going to be a choice to opt-out of such emails? Regardless of such emails, I still intend to donate or else pay a subscription, if the first, however large, did not count towards the other. That said, I would like to still be able to get the emails people receive when a new thread is started outside the Main Page by one of the loungers, and also the notices that there are messages waiting for me to read them.
Well, that is a lot of questions, so I’ll be happy with just a couple being answered.
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I’m skittish about offering “lifetime” Plus memberships, given the headaches in the past. So at least for now, your membership will expire after a year. But the same rule applies – donate what you think a year’s worth of help is worth.
Every sign-up dialog has an opt-out checkbox for the Newsletters and Alerts. The email notifications you’re talking about are part of the WordPress/bbPress feature set, and they won’t change.
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I’m still working with the devs on this. It’s going to be a thorny problem.
Right now, I’d suggest you use your AskWoody username. Then we’ll bring over your posts on Windows Secrets under your old name – but I don’t know if we’ll be able to merge them.
There’s an inherent hurdle. Windows Secrets Lounge is built on vBulletin. AskWoody is built on bbPress. Two very different animals. I don’t think there’s any way to transfer passwords from one system to the other – so we’re going to have a very fun time with that.
I’m setting up a team to staff the
CustomerService@askwoody.comemail address, but we’re all venturing into uncharted territory.EDIT Oopsie found – email address should be CustomerSupport@AskWoody.com
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I think I’ve found a solution. We bring the Windows Secrets stuff over with your old user name, then I can manually delete the old user name and assign all of the posts to your AskWoody user name.
Drop me a line when we’re merged. It’ll be a while still.
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2 – Click on the Direct Message tab at the top of the page.
He can be reached at both ‘Admin’ and ‘Woody’.https://www.askwoody.com/frontpm/?fepaction=directory
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Good question. Not sure. Tracey is starting to line up his contributors even as we speak.
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Great news looking forward to the new format so this is the Big Secret @woody mysteriously alluded to at the end of one topic preamble.
Thought it was quiet round here just lately seems like all the action was behind the scenes I wish you all the best of luck as its sure to be a heck of a Migration. 😀2 users thanked author for this post.
Nice, nice, very nice. I’m still relatively new around the AskWoody community but I’m glad to see all this coming together in one place.
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Great and most welcoming news…
Always a pleasure and benefiting greatly from all you guys
especially appreciative of and always bemused by the language you use Woody !
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The band is getting back together.
Thank you, each of you, for committing to this effort. It’s gonna be big. I am extremely grateful for the news, advice, and fellowship that I find in the lounge. Everything described is an additional benefit. Cheers to a smooth transition and a wonderful new year ahead.3 users thanked author for this post.
I believe Woody’s “Windows 8 All-In-One for Dummies” referred me to Windows Secrets. I was a freeloader for a few months before I decided to do the once-a-year subscription. When Penton/Informa took over & the Usual Suspects left, I let my subscription lapse. By then, I had been on AskWoody for a while. Sorry I hadn’t donated here, but when you setup a subscription for AskWoody Plus, I’m in!
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This is all a nice Christmas present. Over the years, I have appreciated and subscribee to all of the resources and experts mentioned above, at various times under various usernames. The information provided has given me a couple of pretty stable decades of computing. I am looking forward to the new regime!
(I believe that there will be a new ASUS Chromebook AND a new Thinkpad X1 Carbon under the Christmas tree next week, finally replacing some really ancient hardware.)
Many thanks to Woody and all the excellent contributors here.
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This is great news. I became a lifetime subscriber to Windows Secrets many years ago, and it was invaluable until recently. The AskWoody site with Susan has been a stopgap. I did contribute because it is so needed with the disaster Windows has been in the last few years. It is great to have the whole team back and get back to a new and improved combined product. I look forward to even better things coming.
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NO NO NO…I have become to use to this format. Usually go to something new means bugs , crashes, errors, etc which I am to ready to deal with.
Will it still allow anon posting? I do not trust any site with my info. Will I have to set up a fake account with fake info to post now? I already hundreds of accounts to keep track and change once get too much spam or other issues…..Please do not change.Well there is always at least one, LOL! 🙂
Exciting new! Looking forward to the expanded version with more expert contributors & content!!!
No. .. there is always two or three that do not like change. I am second no changes to this site please…..
Bugs, crashes, errors? Yeah, probably. I’m not perfect. But I think they’ll be brief and handled by a very competent team.
No one is perfect. But my rule is if it works, do not touch it. If is broken, than fix it. MS should have follow that rule and left Windows 7 alone. That was the last best OS ever made by MS.
– Signed anonymous #2
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This is outstanding news! My first tech book was Windows Secrets long ago. It was very helpful and sparked a long interest. Add that legacy to what I consider my first go to site (right here at AskWoody.com) on Windows (and other systems and issues) and I see a great opportunity.
I hope this will be a Happy New Year as you bring up hte new format.
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Do you remember when…uh …when Woody announced he was revealing a treasure trove of lost information and merged his old forum with WS and allow search engines to find that info?….. uh that was pretty awesome.
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Yaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!
Windows Secrets resuscitated and improved as a blended part of Ask Woody Plus… Woody, Fred, Susan,,, and the original bunch on board!
That’s great news and, from the perspective of a Windows Secrets subscriber and AskWoody reader, it’s warmly welcomed.
Steve
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I have never been to Windows Secrets in the past, but am certainly interested to see what this merge will bring about.
As to the “demise of Windows 7”, well for me it won’t be a demise. I WILL continue to run Windows 7 (and Windows XP), in VMware virtual machines and/or by itself. I am fully prepared to switch to Windows 8.1 as I already installed it on each of my Windows systems alongside Windows 7, but will keep a Windows 7 partition to run even after the end of support for Windows 7 in January 2020. I have bought keys for VMware Workstation 15 and VMware Fusion 11 Professional during the Black Friday sale, and will use them once I decide it is time to shift to Windows 8.1 and MacOS Sierra / High Sierra as my main OS.
I will stay away from Windows 10 for as long as possible.
Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.
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Great news, Woody! Will be looking for the payment info for the Plus membership and will gladly join. This site has been a godsend to so many for so long and now it will be even better (if such a thing is possible)!
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If it’s even down for hours, I’ll be pulling my hair out.
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Another Windows Secret subscriber until Penton spoiled it and let my subs lapse – and subscriber to Woody’s newsletters before that. This is certainly good news and I await developments. Have just sent a small donation to Woody.
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I have every one of the Langa List archives stored and backed up on my XP SP3 machine. I’m so excited to read the news. I admit I did dream of a visit from a big yellow Harley one day. Can’t wait to be a part of the new forum / newsletter. Kinda feels like the Eagles Hell Freezes Over concert….
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This is wonderful news. Until the latest issue of “Windows Secrets” with this announcement hit my inbox, I had intended to not renew my subscription. Now I definitely will renew.
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Great news (how the wheel has turned!!)
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