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      • #2012957 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        It’s one of the worst-kept secrets in the industry: You can still upgrade from a licensed copy of Win7 to Win10 for free. The how is easy: Almost ever
        [See the full post at: Born: Here’s why the free upgrade from Win7 to Win10 still works]

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      • #2012978 Reply
        WildBill
        AskWoody Plus

        So… Is Micro$oft holding on to hope that the remaining Win7 & Win8.1 users will take the hint to upgrade to Win10 1909, 2004, or afterwards? If so, they better also hope that 2004 doesn’t revert to the traditional Win10 bugginess… or I’m moving to Linux! Mint or some other flavor I trust… Win10 2004 is M$’s Last Chance to keep me in the Windows fold.

        2 Machines Now!
        #1: Windows 8.1, 64-bit, back in Group A.
        #2: Kicking the tires on a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, recently updated to v1909. #1 machine has loose AC adapter jack & doesn't charge right away anymore!
        Wild Bill Rides Again...

        • #2012986 Reply
          joep517
          AskWoody MVP

          Do not be put off by what you read in a forum such as this. There are many more people using Windows 10 without problems than those you read here. Many if not most of the problems you see are specific to a particular configuration. That may include both hardware and other software too. Not only just the software but the order in which software is installed can have an effect.

          I have been in the Insider program for over 5 years. That means I install a pre-release version of Windows 10 almost every week. I have had very few serious problems. Not even one per year. Yes, because it is pre-release some features may not work entirely correctly but hardly what I’d call a show stopper. Are there frustrations and inconsistencies in Windows 10? ABSOLUTELY YES. But there were with every prior version of Windows I’ve ever used.

          If you decide to upgrade to Windows 10 be sure to do a complete image backup of your system. Then you’ll have a point to which you can return should disaster strike.

          --Joe

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          • #2013610 Reply
            steeviebops
            AskWoody Lounger

            Agree 100% Joe. I hated Windows 10 when it came out. I tried LTSB 2016 for a while but encountered a few show-stopping issues. 1607 is, in my opinion, a terrible build; its update mechanism (which still haunts Server 2016 and LTSB to this day) is excruciatingly slow. I rolled back to 8.1 and didn’t touch it again until 1809 came out. Despite the doom and gloom about 1809 at the time, I had no trouble whatsoever. 1903 was relatively painless (except for the VMware Workstation block, which was worked around) and 1909 has been harmless too.

            The bad experiences always drown out the good ones.

      • #2012989 Reply
        pHROZEN gHOST
        AskWoody Lounger

        The answer is simple. Microsoft still needs home users (aka free beta testers).

        Byte me!

      • #2013018 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I’ve got big doubts a w7-w10 upgrade will even work on my samsung computer. A free w7-w8.1 workaround would be interesting 🙂

      • #2013042 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Woody – please stop spreading information like without understanding the ramifications. If an upgrade is done this way it is NOT AUDITABLE. MICROSOFT DOES NOT LEGALLY ALLOW THESE UPGRADES IN AN ENTERPRISE ENVIRONMENT. Home use is fine, obviously.

      • #2013109 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I think the answer is simple. There would have been people who were reluctant to upgrade to Windows 10, so they deliberately kept a way to upgrade for free. I myself refused to use Windows 10 for years. And it was just this past May that I upgraded all my 7 and 8.1 machines to Windows 10 using the exact method outlined here. By using the Media Creation Tool. I didn’t think it was going to work, but it did and my 7 and 8.1 activations carried over to 10. When I built my new PC a few months back I was able to use an unactivated Windows 7 license for 10 which surprised me as well.

      • #2013119 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Didn’t work.  Download stopped at 37%.

        • #2013537 Reply
          PerthMike
          AskWoody Plus

          Didn’t work.  Download stopped at 37%.

          More likely a timeout on the download than an issue with the install unless you have incompatible hardware (check your CPU, etc compatibility). Older CPUs, even the ones that upgraded to the initial 2015 version of Windows 10 may no longer work on newer Windows 10 editions.

          Why do you think hardware vendors are pushing Windows 10 so hard? Because Microsoft ensured built-in obsolescence, guaranteeing users would have to update their hardware every 2-4 years just to keep Windows 10 working, whereas Windows 7 would work on hardware older than 10 years+.

          No matter where you go, there you are.

          • This reply was modified 1 year ago by PerthMike.
          • #2013598 Reply
            Paul T
            AskWoody MVP

            guaranteeing users would have to update their hardware every 2-4 years just to keep Windows 10 working

            How do you explain >5 year old hardware happily running W10?

            cheers, Paul

          • #2013611 Reply
            jabeattyauditor
            AskWoody Lounger

            Why do you think hardware vendors are pushing Windows 10 so hard?

            Because it’s the only Windows OS they’re allowed to sell?

      • #2013455 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Win7 Pro

        OEM key.

        I’m curious which version of 10 I’d end up with, if I chose to “upgrade” this way. Unfortunately, the info article doesn’t say anything about that.

        If I’d end up with the Enterprise version I’d be tempted to do it.

        • #2013459 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          You have to upgrade to the same Edition you have installed. Home -> Home, Pro -> Pro. If you have Win7 Enterprise you would upgrade to Win10 Enterprise.

          As to the Version you would get, it would be the current one which is Win10 v1909 if you use the Media Creation Tool. If you have an ISO, you would get the version represented by the ISO.

        • #2013534 Reply
          PerthMike
          AskWoody Plus

          Win7 Pro

          OEM key.

          I’m curious which version of 10 I’d end up with, if I chose to “upgrade” this way. Unfortunately, the info article doesn’t say anything about that.

          If I’d end up with the Enterprise version I’d be tempted to do it.

          You NEVER end up with Enterprise without an Enterprise key, as you need to download the special ISO from Microsoft’s licencing site. This is because Enterprise is NOT free, even as an upgrade. To use Enterprise, you need either a volume licence agreement or an E3/E5 licence with SA.

          The normal download methods don’t include the Enterprise edition.

          No matter where you go, there you are.

          • #2014069 Reply
            alphakry
            AskWoody Lounger

            Win7 Pro

            OEM key.

            I’m curious which version of 10 I’d end up with, if I chose to “upgrade” this way. Unfortunately, the info article doesn’t say anything about that.

            If I’d end up with the Enterprise version I’d be tempted to do it.

            You NEVER end up with Enterprise without an Enterprise key, as you need to download the special ISO from Microsoft’s licencing site. This is because Enterprise is NOT free, even as an upgrade. To use Enterprise, you need either a volume licence agreement or an E3/E5 licence with SA.

            The normal download methods don’t include the Enterprise edition.

            During a recent visit to Microsoft’s VLA website, I noticed the most recent windows 10 iso files being the exact same for enterprise as they were pro. I’m not sure how long that’s been but it doesn’t appear to use a different ISO file anymore… it seems purely based on the key you enter during install.

      • #2013613 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Activation =/= License. It won’t hold in audit.

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        • #2014058 Reply
          mn–
          AskWoody Lounger

          I’m actually somewhat concerned about the original automatic upgrades holding up in an audit, too – most people probably didn’t get any independently verifiable paperwork from it.

          And this happened in a lot of small businesses, some of which have grown rapidly since…

      • #2265171 Reply
        samak
        AskWoody Plus

        So I’ve done all this and got the Win 10 files on a USB flash drive. I’m about to get a new computer without Windows on it. Can I just insert the flash drive on the new computer and install from there or is there anything else I need to know ? Thanks

        W7 SP1 Home Premium 64-bit, Office 2010, Group B, non-techie

        • #2265173 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          You need a legal license key for Windows – either a Retail license key for Win7 or Win8/8.1  (an OEM key from another computer won’t work) or a legal license key for Win10 in order for Win10 to activate.

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