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    This topic contains 20 replies, has 11 voices, and was last updated by  doriel 2 weeks, 5 days ago.

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    • #1930855 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Excellent essay from Günter Born. If you’re beta testing Windows, you know he’s right on. Following the motto: Every day a new confusion, different na
      [See the full post at: Born: “Recently, Microsoft has been plaguing its Windows 10 users and subscribers to the Windows Insider program.”]

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    • #1930904 Reply

      geekdom
      AskWoody Plus

      In English, please, or perhaps a translation.

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      • #1931033 Reply

        anonymous

        Google’s translation is broken, still not complete you can understand the critical essence of Mr. Born’s essay.

        https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.borncity.com%2Fblog%2F2019%2F09%2F01%2Fwindows-insider-programm-quo-vadis%2F

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        • #1931037 Reply

          geekdom
          AskWoody Plus

          Thank you and I have bookmarked the google translator.

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          • #1931080 Reply

            anonymous

            Microsoft’s Bing Translator produces similar results, using NoScript you have to temporarily unblock a few domain names to see results. There are dozens of other sites which offer translation services many using Microsoft’s or Google’s engines. One more provider, PROMT is a Russian company which offers translation services.

    • #1930966 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      In English, please, or perhaps a translation.

      Right click on the page > Translate to English.

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      • #1930976 Reply

        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        The right-click translation selection is available in Internet Explorer, but not available in Mozilla Firefox which is my browser.

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        • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 6 days ago by  geekdom.
    • #1930978 Reply

      Geo
      AskWoody Plus

      There’s translator extensions for Firefox.

      • #1930993 Reply

        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        The only two extensions I use are uBlock Origin and NoScript.

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    • #1931057 Reply

      anonymous

      Well, it’s not just the ‘Insider’ program that turned into Disney-World-nonsense. Microsoft made Windows 10 the slowest and most unreliable Windows version since Vista, but their marketing clowns and stupid fanbois dare to call it the best Windows ever.

      • #1931136 Reply

        anonymous

        Windows 10’s end users are suffering not by their own choice for the most part while insiders are asking for that pain.

        Maybe it’s not such a bad idea avoiding Windows 10 as long a possible on any older machines with 7/8.1 able to be run just fine. Windows 10 appears as mostly a BETA  experiment that does not belong being shipped with new hardware in any form other than some longer term Enterprise/LTSC Only variant that’s more oriented towards stability than feature creep.

        On several occasions I have been tempted by some new laptop offering but Windows 10 has soured any enthusiasm that any good laptop pricing deals  may have temporarily caused. I just can not see dealing with that OS nonsense shipping with most new laptops that come with Windows 10 installed and no downgrade options to the earlier version of Windows.

        Most new CPU/GPU  hardware of the past few years has been restricted to Windows 10 what with the driver support necessary for earlier OS versions lacking. MS and the CPU/GPU makers pulled a fast one totally ignoring Window 8.1 for graphics driver support and that makes things more of a hack fest trying to get older MS OSs to run on AMD’s Zen or Intel’s latest CPUs of the latter few years.

        Even when Windows 8.1 was still in mainstream support from MS(First 5 years) MS and the CPU/GPU makers where not vetting drivers for those AMD Zen and later processors. or Intel’s newer processors as well, for 8.1. So it’s coming into a little over 4  years since  Windows 10’s release date and still the stability is lacking compared to windows 7 and 8.1.

        Cows being corralled into the meat processing yards is more like what MS has done in conjunction with the CPU/GPU hardware makers in order to restrict any possible Windows 8.1 alternative on newer hardware after Windows 7 goes EOL. So the pain will just become more widespread after Windows 7 is gone and Windows 8.1 made prematurely obsolete before its full 10 years of mainstream/extended support has expired.

    • #1931224 Reply

      gborn
      AskWoody_MVP

      Ok, I released an English edition of the essay (but I’m not a native speaker).

      Windows (Insider Program): Quo vadis?

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      • #1931311 Reply

        Mele20
        AskWoody Lounger

        Ok, I released an English edition of the essay (but I’m not a native speaker).

        From your English version of your excellent essay, I would never have guessed you were not a native English speaker. Thanks! It would have been quite a hassle on Basilisk to translate it as I block all links to anything Google and also avoid Bing.

        I recall the days when being chosen as a beta tester for a Microsoft product was quite an honor and a highly sought one by many users. Those of us “lucky” enough to get chosen to be a beta tester of some Microsoft product had to work hard, follow Microsoft’s tight guidelines and pace in testing, and had to be productive (in what we found and reported) if we wanted to be considered for further Microsoft beta testing. First time testers were given more guidance and it was a wonderful, interesting experience for all. Sad, how different it is now.

    • #1931226 Reply

      bbearren
      AskWoody MVP

      Microsoft made Windows 10 the slowest and most unreliable Windows version since Vista, but their marketing clowns and stupid fanbois dare to call it the best Windows ever.

      In my experience, it is the best Windows ever.  My Windows 10 Pro installations (except for my NAS, which was a new build) were upgraded from Windows 7 Ultimate or Pro.  Windows 10 Pro on the same hardware is faster and more stable.

      I use StartIsBack++ for my Start Menu, and my Windows 10 looks and feels almost exactly the same as Windows 7.  The only real differences are the increased speed and stability of Windows 10.

      Every Office application opens in less than a second.  When I open File Explorer, my network is fully populated in under 3 seconds.  Every piece of software that I use opens faster in Windows 10 than it did in Windows 7.

      Create a fresh drive image before making system changes, in case you need to start over!
      "The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem. Savvy?"—Captain Jack Sparrow
      "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns

      "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

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    • #1931583 Reply

      abbodi86
      AskWoody_MVP

      Not to mention the mess with multiple versions of the same update and removing components from higher version

      now they did it second month on the row with 1903

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    • #1931781 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      The right-click translation selection is available in Internet Explorer, but not available in Mozilla Firefox which is my browser.

      • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 6 days ago by  geekdom.

      Right- click translation works with Chrome as well .Add right-click options to Firefox with ‘Custom Right-Click Menu’ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/custom-right-click-menu/

    • #1931861 Reply

      Mele20
      AskWoody Lounger

      The right-click translation selection is available in Internet Explorer, but not available in Mozilla Firefox which is my browser.

      • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 6 days ago by  geekdom.

      Right- click translation works with Chrome as well .Add right-click options to Firefox with ‘Custom Right-Click Menu’ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/custom-right-click-menu/

      Right click translation in Windows 10 1803 does NOT work in ANY browser I have:

      Basilisk 2019.06.08
      Fx 60.8 ESR
      Brave 0.68.132
      Edge 42.17134.1.0
      Waterfox 56.2.13
      Vivaldi 2.6.1566.40

      So, I am sure glad Günter translated it as it would have been a big hassle to try and find a decent translator in any of my browsers.

      • #1932552 Reply

        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Right click translation in Windows 10 1803 does NOT work in ANY browser I have:

        Download portable chrome and use it only when translation needed

        https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/google_chrome_portable

        [Moderator edit] Alex, please quote relevant parts of a post, not the whole thing. (highlight the section and click the quote button).

        • #1933460 Reply

          Mele20
          AskWoody Lounger

          Download portable chrome and use it only when translation needed

          Ummm..and how would I do that since EVERY url that relates to Google is blocked in my Hosts file on all computers for many, many years? I’m serious about my privacy.

      • #1932792 Reply

        WildBill
        AskWoody Plus

        Gunter’s translation to English is good. It’s a little stilted, & not as colloquial as I, a native English speaker, would write & speak, but it’s understandable. He & Woody are right; no matter the language, Windows 10 & the current testing environment… umm, how do I say it? SUCK!

        Windows 8.1, 64-bit, now in Group B!
        Wild Bill Rides Again...

    • #1934321 Reply

      doriel
      AskWoody Lounger

      Windows 10 are fast on SSD, but this updating havoc is very user and admin unfriendly. In czech language, we call it “změny pro změny” = “changes for changes”, it means, that you do something just because you want to do something. Maybe MS programmers are pushed into this by PR.
      Who needs new icon for turning off computer every few motnts? I dont. I am really curious, how they can analyze hundreds of thousands reports sent every week by their insiders. By my opinion, it is not possible.

      I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
      --- Thomas A. Edison

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