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    • #1858656 Reply

      wavy
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      I was telling GF that maybe I should build a new computer in the fall as my current rig is 5 years old, to my surprise she said “why not now?”. (She says that a lot to me but usually about something I would rather do later, much later. ) She asked how long it would take, I said oh a couple of hours and she made a disappointed sound and I added that it would likely take me a few weeks to DECIDE what to get, an she perked right up. (Maybe I have been getting on her nerves this summer??)
      I had been wondering if now might be a good time as a trade war with one of the bigest manufacturers of tech stuff might tend to inflate prices this side of the world. On first glance at present prices look good, for some reason I was thinking that memory prices were high but looks like I can get twice as much DDR4 for less than what I bought DDR3 for a few years ago.

      So anybody else out there in AWforum land planning on building a computer this summer?

      FYI looking at

      yet to be released Ryzen 7 3700X

      Intel Core i9-9900 Coffee Lake 8-Core, 16-Thread, 3.1 GHz (5.0 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 65W BX80684I99900 Desktop Processor Intel UHD Graphics 630

      AMD Ryzen 7 2700X AMD50 Gold Edition 3.7 GHz (4.3 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 YD270XBGAFA50 Desktop Processor
      or maybe
      AMD Ryzen 7 2700X AMD50 Gold Edition 3.7 GHz (4.3 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 YD270XBGAFA50 Desktop Processor

      the 3700X @ $329 looks golden! but not yet released.

      What I see as needed in a case:
      Ability to filter incoming air and have a positive pressure
      front panel USB3s (2 at least)
      front panel eSATA would be nice
      front panel audio connections
      room for a BluRay player
      still thinking on the rest…

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    • #1858727 Reply

      rhp52
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      I’m also going to have to build a new one, so I’ll be watching this thread. I’m not even past the linux or Win10 pro decicion, but have looked a little and for the first time considering an AMD product.

      I’m not a gamer and I find most things I’ve looked at (mobo’s especially) are geared for gaming. I just want a current board with current specs..Β  no overclocking, etc.

      Suggestions are welcomed as iI havn’t built a new computer for 7-8 years

    • #1858815 Reply

      wavy
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      Not a gamer either, just want snappy.
      I am considering a TPM but maybe need to post questions in another part of the forum.

      I am trending away from Gigabyte mb because of the crapware they want me to load to use their utilities. It seems prudent to wait for the AMD 3000 series CPU release either for it or the commandment price reductions for previous hw .
      I am going to look at cases for the time being, seems to be a harder process πŸ™

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    • #1858875 Reply

      NetDef
      AskWoody_MVP

      I’m in the same boat – need to build a VR capable system for my son before the holidays. (He’s using my ancient Intel i7-2600K system as a hand-me-down – which was doing fine with various inexpensive upgrades over the years until he started wanting to create VR sets.)

      Looking in the near-term (meaning the next 5 months) I suspect we are about to see a drop in Intel prices, or something.Β  Based on AMD’s recent announcements.

      Planning to wait until those are on market before I decide.

      BTW if you need a neat tool to help put your parts list together, along with rudimentary compatibility checking and price shopping, check out pchound.com . . .Β  you can put together a list, save the custom URL it generates, even send that URL to others (or here) for partners/clients to review before purchasing.

       

      EDIT: PCHound appears to lack compatibility info for the newest Intel CPU’s, use with caution and be certain you know your socket matches!Β  You can also try pcpartpicker.com which currently looks like it’s compatibility filter is working much better!

      ~ Group "Weekend" ~

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      • #1858944 Reply

        wavy
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        OK I must be over the hill, What are VR sets, I know what VR is, been meaning to use my old phone to look but I take forever to get around to things these days..

        “create VR sets”

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        • #1859000 Reply

          NetDef
          AskWoody_MVP

          Specifically my son want’s this for the holiday: https://store.steampowered.com/valveindex

          And he want’s to use it to work on a personal project using SteamVR API and the upcoming kit. (11 years old and already trying to outshine his dad.)

           

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    • #1858880 Reply

      CADesertRat
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      Hi Wavy,

      I just built a 2700X in Oct. 2018 and it is definitely snappy πŸ™‚ I used PC Partpicker for most of my build stuff (other than the case which was cheaper through Walmart CoolerMaster Model # MCM-M500M-KG5N-S00). AMD is kickin Intels butt on CPU’s especially when you get a good cooling fan with the CPU. Here’s my part’s list that has current prices.

      NOTE: I didn’t get the Pioneer Blu-Ray drive just the ASUS burner.

      AMD

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
      4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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      • #1858903 Reply

        CADesertRat
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        BTW, I didn’t spend that much for W10 Pro. I got a retail key through a MS authorized company for $125.00 and used 1803 (at the time) that I had already downloaded on a USB. Not sure of your OS plans but I can post the link for where I got mine if your interested.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
        4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1858915 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      Oh Cool looks very nice!!!
      I am still wondering about the OS. I believe i have rights to one more w7 pro, gotta look closer I bought an W7 Ultimate as well as a pro…. I think that a half year ago I would consider the exact same rig!!

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      • #1859011 Reply

        CADesertRat
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        At the time, I had an XP upgraded to W7 32 bit that was originally built in 2003 and it was just getting too slow for me so I decided it was time to start fresh. Although AMD is coming out with new stuff, I’m pretty darn happy with this 2700X system. It’s not used for any heavy gaming but some number crunching and amateur Photoshop.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
        4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #1936239 Reply

        MrJimPhelps
        AskWoody_MVP

        At PC PartPicker (https://pcpartpicker.com/products/os/) you can pick your favorite OS – Windows 7, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10. Looks like this is about the only way you could get a brand new computer with Windows 7 or Windows 8.1.

        If you want fast, get plenty of memory (at least 16 GB, more if you want to run multiple VMs all at the same time); separate NvME solid state drives for each of the following: the host OS, the data drive, and each virtual machine you want to run; and a good video card with plenty of on-board memory.

        By the way, since you are building your own system, I would suggest getting a motherboard that has PS/2 ports (for the keyboard and mouse). And get yourself a cheap PS/2 keyboard and mouse, and put them in your “toolbox” for future use. If USB ever dies on your computer, you will be very glad that you have PS/2 available, because PS/2 makes it possible to use a keyboard and mouse when there is no USB functionality.

        I have had two computers in my life where USB died, and fortunately in both cases the computer had PS/2 ports. I hooked up a PS/2 keyboard and mouse, and I was then back up and running.

        You may never need PS/2 in your entire life; but the one time that you do, it will be a lifesaver.

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    • #1858945 Reply

      RetiredGeek
      AskWoody MVP

      Wavy,

      Going into the Bit-Coin mining business or you going to generate “fake news videos”?

      ROTFLOL-BlueShoes
      That’s an awfully powerful system are you sure you need that much power?

      Make sure you have plenty of cooling I’d recommend water cooling a rig like this.

      You didn’t mention what Power Supply you were looking at. I’d take a look at the one CADesertRat chose.

      HTH 😎

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
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      • #1859001 Reply

        wavy
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        I am a big believer in quality PS s . That is what keeps it all going. I was a Seasonic fan but now run EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 220-G2-0750-XR which has been good .

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      • #1870597 Reply

        Lugh
        AskWoody_MVP

        I’d recommend water cooling a rig like this

        I haven’t done any comparison research, but fyi Noctua fans look interesting at the higher cooling end.

        Lugh.
        ~
        Alienware Aurora R6; Win10 Home x64 1803; Office 365 x32
        i7-7700; GeForce GTX 1060; 16GB DDR4 2400; 1TB SSD, 256GB SSD, 4TB HD

    • #1858968 Reply

      mngerhold
      AskWoody Lounger

      Wavy: in case your budget is more modest, last October I upgraded my 12-year old Acer with:

      Icy Box 3.5" USB-3 Front Adapter Mfg# IB-866        Β£13 
      Lite-On iHAS124 DVD Drive Mfg# IHAS124-14           Β£12 
      Maxtor 1TB M3 USB3.0 HDD Mfg# STSHX-M101TCBM        Β£42 
      CCL MB Bundle: GB A320M-S2H, Ryzen3-2200G, 8GB DDR4 Β£230 
      Intel 760p 256GB M.2 SSD Mfg# SSDPEKKW256G801       Β£62 
                                                   total: Β£361

      All put into the original case with original PS (!) and newish HDD. W10 runs like a dream. That lot would cost Β£30 less now.

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    • #1859003 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      ROTFLOL-BlueShoes
      That’s an awfully powerful system are you sure you need that much power?

      Heck no, but GF said go fer it πŸ™‚

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    • #1859014 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      Going into the Bit-Coin mining business or you going to generate β€œfake news videos”?

      If i though BitCoins were a way to actually make money I might be on it but we are a decade late for easy money there..
      The Fake News Business is way too competitive now….
      πŸ™

      πŸ™‚

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    • #1859038 Reply

      wavy
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      BTW, I didn’t spend that much for W10 Pro. I got a retail key through a MS authorized company for $125.00 and used 1803 (at the time) that I had already downloaded on a USB. Not sure of your OS plans but I can post the link for where I got mine if your interested.

      Ok Retail = OEM ??
      seems not bad these days of WAAS..

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    • #1859046 Reply

      CADesertRat
      AskWoody Plus

      Ok Retail = OEM ??

      No, Retail means I can install it on any computer I want as long as it’s only on 1 computer. In other words, if my MB dies and I have to replace it there are no problems with validation from MS. It’s different with OEM since you may have to call MS to re-validate if you change a major component on your computer.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
      4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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    • #1863652 Reply

      Bill C.
      AskWoody Plus

      You may find the front panel eSATA to be a hard one to find. It seems to have fallen from favor with the rise of USB 3.0+. For my new box, I have not seen any front panel eSata in a case for a while, and definitely not in a case with external 5.25 Optical drive bays. I have an eSATA drive, but have found USB 3.0 to be more reliable than my eSATA drive.

      If you can find an older case NOS or used you might find front panel eSATA. I have also seen memory card panels with eSATA ports.

      I do wish you luck though, sounds like a nice build with decent headroom.

    • #1871015 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      Wavy,

      Going into the Bit-Coin mining business or you going to generate “fake news videos”?

      ROTFLOL-BlueShoes
      That’s an awfully powerful system are you sure you need that much power?

      Make sure you have plenty of cooling I’d recommend water cooling a rig like this.

      You didn’t mention what Power Supply you were looking at. I’d take a look at the one CADesertRat chose.

      HTH 😎

      Maybe fake bitcoin mining videos.
      But H2O cooling should not be needed. Except for my Cyrix ?? I have never OCed, a CPU capable should IMHO be a good one though.
      Just scratching at the skin….

      One note :
      This one should be MUCH more accessible than the present which requires 2 c-clamps to move my 300 lb desk to access. Gonna go where the really old one is now!!

      🍻

      Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
      • #1876459 Reply

        rhp52
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        wavy-

        Could you post the link to where you got your win 10 pro key?

        Thanks

    • #1876154 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      Ok I have made some decisions (well purchasing type). I am for once a bit more on the bleeding edge rather than the healing edge. The AMD RYZEN 9 3900X just seems too good to ignore, $500US but unless one goes ultra for a $1000 or more it is the price point to beat. I have gotten Gigabyte M/Bs for a while but dislike their utility structure, too unified. Asrock, MSI and Asus were contenders, I was unable to make a really informed decision but Asrock was new to me and Asus vs MSI M/Bs were a toss up. My requirements are not stringent, a $200 goal yielded an Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) looked good and like a couple of others was available. Unfortunately the RYZEN 9 was not, looks like Monday (and be quick about it, looks like I am not the only one to see the value equation). I found an Asus TUF-GTX1660TI-O6G-GAMING card for just over $200 w/ rebates and coupons.
      Pretty new and fast, tough to ignore. I found a Intel 660p Series M.2 2280 1TB PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 3D2, QLC Internal Solid State Drive for $10 off. The unit is not a high usage hero but very fast for most routine use at a very good price ($95) to begin with.
      Memory is still up in the air, I am still waiting for a good deal on 2 16 GB units of DDR4 3600 capability. Looking at a Seasonic PS but cases are going to be a problem, most have no Optical Disk space and more whiz bang than I really care for.

      I will update as I go, any one out there making these kind of decisions?

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      • #1876171 Reply

        CADesertRat
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        The AMD RYZEN 9 3900X just seems too good to ignore

        Should be a “Screamer” Wavy, most benchmarks show it to be fast.

        I have gotten Gigabyte M/Bs for a while but dislike their utility structure

        I had always used ASUS in the past but went with Gigabyte for this 2700x because of all the USB availability and I didn’t install most of their Utility’s just the drivers.

        cases are going to be a problem, most have no Optical Disk space and more whiz bang than I really care for.

        Take a look at that CoolerMaster I got for mine (in my earlier post) and CoolerMaster has a number of other cases with Optical drive bays.

        20190717_155811

        Anyway, sounds like you will have quite a system πŸ™‚

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
        4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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        rhp52
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        you’re further along than I am. I’ve looked at numerous cases but they all have a lot of bays that i won’t use, I’d like to stick to a mid tower so it’s upgradeable, they seem to be more in line for what I’m doing.

        I haven’t yet decided about the processor, but will be using an M.2 drive, probably Samsung. At least 512GB. I’m not a gamer so I don’t need a high end graphics card or maybe none at all if I go with an Intel proc.Β  Probably go with an Asus board.

        Keep us informed about what you find and I’ll do the same.

    • #1876157 Reply

      wavy
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      @ Retired Geek
      Yes I am planning on taking over the would with this rig -;
      PS also bought a really cheap W10 Pro Retail Key. Fingers crossed….. turning blue..

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        rhp52
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        @retiredgeekΒ  Aren’t you taking a chance buying a retail key so cheap? How does that work?

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          CADesertRat
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          @retiredgeekΒ  Aren’t you taking a chance buying a retail key so cheap? How does that work?

          Wavy bought the retail key.

          Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
          4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1876160 Reply

      wavy
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      BTW how does one get an image in the post rather than as an attachment (yes I see it does come up in both places sometimes )

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      • #1876166 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        There is a link next to the attachment in the edit view that says “insert in content” – In the Visual tab it inserts where the cursor is.

        Screen-Shot-2019-07-17-at-5.35.38-PM

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    • #1876638 Reply

      wavy
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      @retiredgeekΒ  Aren’t you taking a chance buying a retail key so cheap? How does that work?

      I will let you know, I failed to find any bad stuff on a cursory search. Hopefully I will get my parts together soon enough to cancel CC if if proves bogus…

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    • #1880662 Reply

      wavy
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      Well been busy ..

      I was all set on Ryzen 9 3900x 5 bills but what the hey. But nobody had any!! The egg said they should have them Monday. Tried today , had one in the cart with a couple of other items only there because the wish list was not working, Whilst removing the extraneous items the Ryzen 9 was sold out. Now I have gone with the Ryzen 7 3700X and save 170 bucks. Ps the egg raised their price 70 bucks on the Ryzen 7 3700X overnight..

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      • #1880696 Reply

        rhp52
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        I think the 3700x is the best bang for the buck. Good choice.

      • #1880774 Reply

        CADesertRat
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        I was all set on Ryzen 9 3900x 5 bills but what the hey. But nobody had any!! The egg said they should have them Monday. Tried today , had one in the cart with a couple of other items only there because the wish list was not working, Whilst removing the extraneous items the Ryzen 9 was sold out

        I went through that when I decided on the 2700X, I waited though and pre ordered and it actually came in the next day. πŸ™‚ My guess is that you will probably be pretty happy with the 3700X though.

        Sounds like a fun build. Congrats

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
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    • #1880732 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      yeh maybe lucked out in that regard. Also ordered The end game steel, which I had been holdifg off oon . Now i may not feel so bad about spending 120 on a case! Looks like Phanteks Enthoo Pro TG PH-ES614PTG_BK 110 bucks,

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    • #1881250 Reply

      MrJimPhelps
      AskWoody_MVP

      Get at least 16 GB of RAM, an NvME solid state drive, and a good video card with a decent amount of memory. By doing so, you will have plenty of speed in three critical areas: video, disk reads and writes, and “elbow room” to work.

      If you want to have several VMs open at the same time, then get at least 32 GB of RAM; and get a separate NvME solid state drive for each of the VMs.

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      • #1890860 Reply

        Lugh
        AskWoody_MVP

        Nice Wavy, good luck with it πŸ™‚

        get a separate NvME solid state drive for each of the VMs

        Just curious Jim, I asume it would be enough to have a separate partition for each VM, if one had a large SSD?

        Lugh.
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        • #1936248 Reply

          MrJimPhelps
          AskWoody_MVP

          You would gain a slight edge in speed by having a separate drive for each VM, because you could access two at the same time quicker with separate drives than with one drive and separate partitions. However, an NvME SSD is so fast that the difference would be only slight. Of course, if any of the SSDs begin to slow down (e.g. for TRIM issues), those VMs on the slow SSDs would be slower than those VMs on the faster SSDs. Therefore, separate SSDs means that only some things would slow down.

          Back in the mechanical drive days, the difference would have been greater. Anytime multiple tasks are being performed at the same time, it is always faster to have each task on a separate drive, rather than all tasks on the same drive, because separate drives means that each task would actually happen at the same time rather than one after the other.

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    • #1882575 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      Well for better or worse, as they say. Way over budget (ok I really should have figured out a budget)
      Ryzen 7 3700X
      ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi)
      ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Ti DirectX 12
      Intel 660p Series M.2 2280 1TB PCIe NVMe 3.0
      G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB)
      Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-550FX 550W 80+ Gold
      Phanteks Enthoo Pro TG PH-ES614PTG_BK

      Or in long form

      AMD – Ryzen 7 3700X Octa-Core 3.6 GHz Desktop Processor
      $329.99

      ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) ATX Motherboard with PCIe 4.0, Dual M.2, 12+2 with Dr. MOS Power Stage, HDMI, DP, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.2 Gen 2 and Aura Sync RGB Lighting
      $199.99

      ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Ti DirectX 12 TUF-GTX1660TI-O6G-GAMING 6GB 192-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready Video Card
      $299.99 $-50.00

      Intel 660p Series M.2 2280 1TB PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 3D2, QLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPEKNW010T8X1
      $94.99

      G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C14D-32GVR
      $247.99

      Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-550FX 550W 80+ Gold Intel ATX 12V Full Modular 120mm FDB Fan Compact 140 mm Size Power Supply
      $74.99

      Phanteks Enthoo Pro TG PH-ES614PTG_BK Integrated RGB lighting Tempered Glass Side Panel ATX Full Tower Computer Case – Black
      $109.99

      WD Black 4TB Performance Desktop Hard Disk Drive – 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5 Inch – WD4005FZBX
      $164.99

      WD Blue WD20EZAZ 2TB 5400 RPM 256MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5″ Internal Hard Drive
      $54.99

      StarTech.com USBPLATE4 4 Port USB A Female Slot Plate Adapter – USB panel – 4 pin USB Type A (F)
      $6.99

      Coboc PCIU3-20PSPL2-18 18″ Dual Ports USB 3.0 to 20pin Header Adatper Cable w/ Rear Panel – PCI Bracket USB 3.0 20pin to 2 Ports Type A Female
      $5.49

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      • #1882612 Reply

        Microfix
        Da Boss

        Nice rig, congrats and enjoy. We all want pics posted once built!
        Oh and good luck with the OS ‘creature update’ gravy train..

        ********** Win7 x64/x86 | Win8.1 x64 | Linux Hybrids x64 **********

      • #1882824 Reply

        CADesertRat
        AskWoody Plus

        Nice rig Wavy and you’ll be ready to change parts when more PCIE 4.0 parts become available (not many on the market yet). My tally with what you listed is $1540.39, a bit more than what I spent but you got more computer, LOL.

        Congrats and as Microfix say’s, post some pictures.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
        4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

        • #1882833 Reply

          wavy
          AskWoody Plus

          Nice rig Wavy and you’ll be ready to change parts when more PCIE 4.0 parts become available (not many on the market yet). My tally with what you listed is $1540.39, a bit more than what I spent but you got more computer, LOL.

          I figure 1565 with tax and a coupon and rebate. More than I was planning on spending but….
          I know once PCIe 4.0 parts are available at a reasonable price it would seem to be a good upgrade.

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    • #1888604 Reply

      wavy
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      IMG_20190725_104022ss

      IMG_20190725_104241s

      Ok here’s the crew.
      First problem:

      IMG_20190725_105243s
      No easy way to open the side door with unit laying on side, the little spring thingy is just not strong enough to push up heavy door. πŸ™‚ If that is the worst problem I encounter I will celebrate when I am done.. Ok even if it is NOT the worst.

      Nice little box for the screws and some ties and manual for the case. ( which is annoyingly is in 7 different languages on same page) BTW this thing is BIGGER than I anticipated a good two inches in every dimension than the case it is replacing.

      IMG_20190725_111106s

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        CADesertRat
        AskWoody Plus

        No easy way to open the side door with unit laying on side, the little spring thingy is just not strong enough to push up heavy door.

        How about a Bungee cord to hold it open?

        BTW this thing is BIGGER than I anticipated a good two inches in every dimension than the case it is replacing

        Yeah, ATX Mid size cases have grown in the past 10 years. πŸ™‚ I ran into the same problems on the last 2 computers I built. I had to make sleds for them.

        20190725_105851

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
        4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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        MrJimPhelps
        AskWoody_MVP

        Looks like you got a welding machine too! That ought to give you some nice diversion when you are burned out from all of the computing.

        Group "L" (Linux Mint)
        with Windows 8.1 running in a VM
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    • #1888810 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      You mean a skate board ? πŸ™‚
      Actually I just righted it and the door lifts off it’s hinges. But I did give it the evil eye for a second or 20..

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    • #1896106 Reply

      agoldhammer
      AskWoody Plus

      I have built my last three work stations at 4-5 year cycles.Β  My current PC is still going fine and my demands are modest, office apps, Internet work, and photoediting (predominately Lightroom with occasional photoshop usage).Β  My workstation sits on my desktop so it has to be quiet, thus selection of an appropriate case is critical.Β  My recommendations for a new build are:

      1. case – Fractal Designs R6; it’s quiet and has adjustable installed fans, there is also lots of space to work in and posts to tie down all the cables; it has space for an optical drive if you need it; there is a higher priced model with a type C USB front port if you want that otherwise the standard version has 2 USB 3.0 and 2 USB 2.0 ports
      2. PSU – Seasonic Focus Gold 550 or 650W; you don’t need any more power than that
      3. CPU – Intel core i7; 8 core would be best for future proofing (disclaimer – I am an Intel shareholder); make sure that your CPU and motherboard are compatible!!!
      4. CPU cooler – Noctua NH U12S; quiet and adequate for all uses other than gaming
      5. Motherboard – ASUS TUF Pro Z390; even if you don’t overclock the Z motherboard components are more robust; I’ve only used ASUS ATX motherboards and never had any issues
      6. Memory – 32GB Crucial memory; I always use their on-line tool to make sure the memory is compatible with the chosen motherboard; 32GB will be more than enough for almost every application you will run
      7. GPU – NVIDIA GTX 1660 with 6GB memory; this is good for all applications including photo editing
      8. Storage – 500GB SSD for OS and programs; it’s probably more than one needs (my current Win10 and programs occupy 61GB) but memory is cheap; my own preference is for regular 2.5 inch SSDs rather than new ones that install directly on the motherboard as they are easier to replace in case something goes bad; 1TB (or more depending on the data storage needs) standard hard drive

      These parts will run about $1400 last time I looked.Β  Cost can be reduced by dropping memory to 16GB and moving to an i5 CPU and getting a less powerful GPU.

      Happy building.

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      • #1900031 Reply

        Lugh
        AskWoody_MVP

        Nice post AGH, thanks. I like a lot of your recommendations.

        CPU cooler – Noctua NH U12S; quiet and adequate for all uses other than gaming

        This will cover gaming no problem, unless you have something crazy in mindβ€”and even then… Noctua fans are preferred by many over water cooling for overclocking.

        Memory – 32GB

        Unless you have apps you know will use itβ€”eg multiple VMsβ€”16GB is plenty for the next while. My 16GB only went over 50% usage a couple of times, when I forgot to close down a bunch of apps before starting an AAA game.

        GPU – NVIDIA GTX 1660

        Yeah, looks to be the sweet spot now price-wise for future-proofing for a few years. My 970 & 1060 in 2 machines are still taking anything I throw at them.

        Storage – 500GB SSD for OS and programs

        Hmm, I think you’re falling between two stools there. 256GB is way more than enough for normal OS-Programs-Usersβ€”I have a lot installed and still only 120GB used.

        I recently swapped out my 2nd 256 SSD for a 1TB SSD under $100 to hold most of my games, now that even small ones are 2-5GB and big ones 30-100GB.

        I use a 4TB HD for data storage, as I have a fair amount of media files & various large backup files. Still overkill, but I got it in exchange.

        Lugh.
        ~
        Alienware Aurora R6; Win10 Home x64 1803; Office 365 x32
        i7-7700; GeForce GTX 1060; 16GB DDR4 2400; 1TB SSD, 256GB SSD, 4TB HD

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    • #1896958 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      @rhp52

      IMG_20190730_124533

      πŸ™‚
      More tails to tell, took 2 days to get a working box…
      Will be back

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      • #1896971 Reply

        rhp52
        AskWoody Plus

        yikes! Glad it’s working

      • #1896982 Reply

        CADesertRat
        AskWoody Plus

        1809 or 1903? Looks like wherever you got the key, it worked. πŸ™‚

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
        4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1896991 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      1903 239 to 267 I think.
      It will get wiped a few times but the key should stick.

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      • #1900276 Reply

        CADesertRat
        AskWoody Plus

        It will get wiped a few times but the key should stick

        From your last 2 post’s, it sounds like you are having a few problems?? Hope they get worked out ok.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
        4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1900326 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      @cadesertrat
      No real problems now, in mis wired a header cable late at night and the power button was non functional. And Wednesday had a transformer replacement so power was out for a while. Wiping out the OS a few times because I will try some of the proprietary s/w which I am always leery of from my Gigabyte M/B install. and I want to try the PS script Rick Corbett wrote about @
      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/customize-the-initial-windows-10-installation/#post-1848764

      Hopefully I will start exploring UEFI tomorrow.
      BTW this thing lights up like an XMAS tree LOL. Did not really realize that, will send a pic .

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      • #1900421 Reply

        CADesertRat
        AskWoody Plus

        BTW this thing lights up like an XMAS tree LOL. Did not really realize that, will send a pic

        Yeah, this is mine when I was first building it (without the glass side which reflected me taking the picture).

        AMD-computer-3
        AMD-computer-4

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
        4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      Well 2 weeks and I have been doing a lot of nothing.. I do have one problem, not a serious issue. After much head scratching and playing around with the s/w and cables for the leds on the Wraith cooler I realize I am not getting any blue on the fans leds.

      The m/b came with cFoss Internet Traffic Shaping s/w and I am wondering if anyone has any opinion of this. I was thinking it was just more crud ware but ????

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      Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
      • #1907244 Reply

        CADesertRat
        AskWoody Plus

        The m/b came with cFoss Internet Traffic Shaping s/w and I am wondering if anyone has any opinion of this. I was thinking it was just more crud ware but ????

        My Gigabyte MB had that as an optional download and I did some googling and there are a lot of hits saying it isn’t worth the space it takes up. Then again there are a few that say it’s great but the bad outweighed the good so I decided against it.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
        4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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      • #1907652 Reply

        Paul T
        AskWoody MVP

        If you are serious about shaping your traffic buy a router that does it. Don’t rely on software on your PC because that still requires all traffic to pass onto your PC.

        BTW do you know what to do with traffic shaping?

        cheers, Paul

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    • #1908014 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      BTW do you know what to do with traffic shaping?

      Having all the lights turn green as I approach them ??
      I got the Idea though! I am still fiddling with Asus s/w seeing whats flash and whats trash before the final install of W10.

      I am also wondering if the fan control s/w is worth keeping as Uefi has options..

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      Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
    • #1935834 Reply

      CADesertRat
      AskWoody Plus

      @wavy,

      You may want to keep an eye out for this firmware release. Seems that AMD 3000 cpus aren’t hitting the Boost clock speeds. Here’s an article.

      https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-boost-frequency-bios-fix,40308.html

       

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does πŸ™‚
      4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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    • #1935903 Reply

      anonymous

      Here is a guy that is extremely AMD CPU oriented and has a very good knowledge of building computers. You might want to contact him with your thoughts.

      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDXy6QCXBePLvfTSzeb2v5Q

    • #1936309 Reply

      anonymous

      PKCano, Kirsty, Microfix. Hey gang, I tried to post something for Wavy and it did not make it past Awaiting Moderation. I assume it was a assumed spam the robot blocked. Thanks. post-1936134

      Moderator note: The reason the post was not published is listed as “duplicate of a post on reddit.”
      Cross posting without notification is against the AskWoody Rules.

      Cross forum posts (the same question on more than one site) must be marked as such

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    • #1936422 Reply

      wavy
      AskWoody Plus

      Looks like you got a welding machine too! That ought to give you some nice diversion when you are burned out from all of the computing.

      Well I had one. I needed (still need) to repair my TV viewing chair. I was reading the specs on the unit and I had no 20 Amp ckts handy and 10 gauge power cable was recommended. ( another 30 to 50 bucks). These things on top of the main reason. GF asked ‘where are you going to PUT THAT thing?’
      I live in a crowded condo and had no good answer ! ( Door stop ?? 🀨) Before I bought it I was unable to remove the broken piece from the main part of the chair, but had finally figured it out so I returned to unit and will pay someone to fix it, likely do a much better job than I would have done not having welded for nearly 40 years! πŸ˜„

      🍻

      Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
    • #1936977 Reply

      anonymous

      Wavy, Here are some possible fixes to your lack of blue color from REDDIT.

      “Problems with RGB LED Wraith Spire Cooler Ryzen (lack of blue shown)

      Problems with RGB LED Wraith Spire Cooler Ryzen from buildapc

      “Set up your colors in Mystic light.

      Wraith Prism LEDs reset to all red every time I reset or shut off my PC. from AMDHelp

      Wraith Prism LED Issue

      Wraith Prism LED Issue from AMDHelp

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