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    Just confirmed on the Windows update twitter feed, Copilot will be coming to Windows 10 But don’t panic, we will have registry keys and information to
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    Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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    • #2603159

      What a tragedy

      now LTSC 2021 users will have to deal with bloated Cumulative Update that include components which they don’t need or want (or cannot) to have

    • #2603163

      Panic … worry … tragedy …

      A tool you can ignore or switch off!

    • #2603197

      Microsoft force-feeding its “latest and greatest” to the masses reminds me of a line from a movie classic — “When you’re slapped you’ll take it and like it!”

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      • #2603238

        Who said that- was it John Wayne?

        Mark

         

        • #2603247

          It was the Humphrey Bogart character Sam Spade in The Maltese Falcon (1941).

          Yes,” Spade growled. “And when you’re slapped you’ll take it and like it.”

          About Copilot, I’ll try it out so at least I have a reason to disable it. 🙂

          Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

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      • #2603463

        Whilst on the tangent of movie quotes attributed towards WaaS forced changes:
        “You lost today kid, but that doesn’t mean you have to like it” – Fedora – Indiana Jones and the last crusade (1989)
        Funny how the name Fedora is also a clue to less frustrating options 🙂

        Win8.1/R2 Hybrid lives on..
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    • #2603198
      1. I’ve had success with patching 4 Windows 10 22H2 test machines, then patching and testing my work machines (laptop and desktop) with these latest set of 4 Windows Updates since October.
        1. KB5032189 2023-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5032189) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/5032189
        2. KB4023057 2023-10 Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB4023057) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/4023057
        3. KB5032339 2023-11 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1 for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64 (KB5032339) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/5032339
        4. KB890830 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – v5.119 (KB890830) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/890830
      2. Questions: Based on my above results, I’ve now authorized others in our group to apply these November updates. However: One user has reported an odd repeated installation of the September and October .NET Framework cumulative updates, KB5031224 and  KB5030180. Anyone else seeing this peculiarity? Fortunately the older cumulative .NET Framework updates preceded the install of the November .NET Framework cumulative update, but the meaning of cumulative seems “obscured” by this odd behavior. Anyone know what’s up with this?<!–EndFragment –>

      Basic research is what I am doing when I don't know what I am doing - Werner Von Braun

      • #2603264

        I am not seeing that.  I would also open a new thread in the Windows 10 forum to get better exposure to the issue.

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

      • #2603284

        KB5030180 and KB5031224 contained updates for .Net Framework versions 4.8 and 4.8.1.

        I suppose if a system was updated to install .Net Framework 4.8.1 after those two KBs were first installed (for 4.8) they would be downloaded again to update the newly installed 4.8.1.  Just a guess…

    • #2603299

      Because I dont use Edge, it will be additional bloatware to my Windows 10?

      • #2603372

        It’s possible to remove Edge.  Search the web.  Pick a recent posting.

        If you are in the EEU, Microsoft has just announced that it will allow users to remove/disable it, but only for those in that region.

        Mark

         

    • #2603343

      Windows 10 22H2 Build 19045.3754 (KB5032278)

      ..After installing today’s November 2023 non-security preview update (KB5032278), Windows Insiders in Release Preview with eligible devices3 running Windows 10, version 22H2 who are interested in experiencing Copilot in Windows as soon as possible when we begin rolling it out in the near future, can choose to do so by going to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update and turning on ”Get the latest updates as soon as they’re available” and Check for updates4,5..

    • #2603443

      This is a strange announcement as I received Copilot on Edge at least 10-14 days ago on a W10 Pro 22H2 PC, and well before the November updates were released. It sits quietly in the top right hand corner where Bing used to be. I am in Scotland so I don’t know if that made a difference with roll-out dates.

    • #2603444

      This is a strange announcement as I received Copilot on Edge at least 10-14 days ago on a W10 22H2 PC

      Copilot in Edge is the new name for Bing. Bing is no more.

      https://www.zdnet.com/article/what-is-microsoft-copilot-heres-everything-you-need-to-know/

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    • #2603510

      One user has reported an odd repeated installation of the September and October .NET Framework cumulative updates, KB5031224 and KB5030180. Anyone else seeing this peculiarity?

      On my W10 Pro 22H2 daily driver, I had these two apparently reissued .NET KB’s show up in the update queue about 2 weeks after applying the 2023-10 updates. I applied them a few days before November Patch Tuesday. I have not yet installed the 2023-11 updates.

      Regards, Phil

       

    • #2603517

      On our Windows 10 22H2 systems, Copilot is turned off in the Microsoft Edge Sidebar settings.

    • #2603598

      The past October, I experimented with AI graphic design using Edge and the Bing Image Creator tool.  I do a lot of computer fixing online via AnyDesk so my directions to the Bing Image Creator tool were something like this:

      “create a picture of a cartoon doctor holding a stethoscope on a computer screen”

      Here’s what it did. I insert it into email sometimes for a chuckle. Nab it if you like.

      Computer-Doctor-graphic

      Custom desktop Asus TUF X299 Mark 1 16GB RAM i7-7820X
      4 27" 1080p screens 2 over 2.
      Laptop Clevo/Sager i7-9750H - 17.3" Full HD 1080p 144Hz, 16GB RAM Win 10 Pro 22H2 all

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    • #2603774

      Copilot is already in Windows 10 22h2, it is also noted in the search bar: It says try the new BING. What is different and how do you turn it off, it is already on the side bar in Edge.

      Win 10 Home 22H2

      • #2603795

        Copilot is already in Windows 10 22h2

        Technically, for now it’s not yet embedded in the Windows OS.  Using AI from a search engine in a browser just exactly that, no more.  Edge browser with search engine Bing which is now named Copilot in Edge,  The Brave browser built in search engine has Leo AI,  The duckduckgo search engine has “DuckAssist” AI and so on.

        Custom desktop Asus TUF X299 Mark 1 16GB RAM i7-7820X
        4 27" 1080p screens 2 over 2.
        Laptop Clevo/Sager i7-9750H - 17.3" Full HD 1080p 144Hz, 16GB RAM Win 10 Pro 22H2 all

    • #2603784

      Just more bloat-spyware. No more features for windows 10 we thought, yer right…

      Maybe they will extend the support life for windows 10, now they are adding spypilot.

      At least as Susan mentioned, we can block with reg keys.

    • #2603834

      So this Copilot rubbish won’t be pushed to “Managed” devices?

      Does this mean that if I am running the Enterprise versions of Windows 10 or Windows 11 then this rubbish won’t appear or will be blocked? And how about other versions like Education?

      Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

    • #2603867

      how do you turn it off

      Sidebar – Copilot

    • #2603951

      Just updated Win10 to KB5032189. Copolit is not shown in the Group Policy Editor.

    • #2603963

      Just updated Win10 to KB5032189. Copolit is not shown in the Group Policy Editor.

      Copilot for Windows 10 is available in preview build 19045.3754 or later.

    • #2604348

      Microsoft : Why do you need Copilot (even if you don’t want it)

      ..Why you should try Copilot in Windows

      People who work with information daily are excited about the capabilities of generative AI to help them discover and create new content. They may already be using generative AI by accessing Microsoft Copilot (previously Bing Chat) or ChatGPT in the browser.

      Copilot in Windows powers the generative AI experience in managed Windows 10 and 11 PCs. As an IT professional, you want to help your organization be at the forefront of AI, but also hold the bar on protecting corporate data that employees may share with AI models. We are here to help you do both. With Copilot in Windows, you can offer a managed version of Copilot to Windows 10 and Windows 11 devices so employees do not accidentally share confidential or proprietary information…

      By using Copilot, employees can:

      Save time and effort by prompting for information and services in one place by typing prompts in natural language or using their voice.
      Explore new possibilities and ideas by generating creative and innovative content that includes both text and images…

      • #2604357

        “People who work with information daily are excited about the capabilities of generative AI to help them discover and create new content”

        I am?

        Chat GPT is often wrong.  And clearly the turmoil in the Board room of Open AI gives me such warm fuzzies.

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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        • #2604358

          Chat GPT is often wrong.

          So is the Brave browser AI engine “Leo”.   I asked Leo about the Open AI boardroom bruhaha.  Here’s the reply:

          OpenAI is a research organization that focuses on developing safe and beneficial AI. I’m not aware of any turmoil in their board room. It’s possible that you may have come across an outdated or inaccurate article or report.

          Custom desktop Asus TUF X299 Mark 1 16GB RAM i7-7820X
          4 27" 1080p screens 2 over 2.
          Laptop Clevo/Sager i7-9750H - 17.3" Full HD 1080p 144Hz, 16GB RAM Win 10 Pro 22H2 all

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    • #2607026

      What a tragedy

      now LTSC 2021 users will have to deal with bloated Cumulative Update that include components which they don’t need or want (or cannot) to have

      are you sure about that, abbodi?
      cuz I DO use LTSC 2021 and have NOT gotten Copilot at all, not even with the KB5032278 update installed (I had build 19044.3757 on there)

      btw, the KB5032278 update has been officially released as build 1904x.3758 to non-insiders on Thursday November 30 (in the afternoon)

      Just updated Win10 to KB5032189. Copolit is not shown in the Group Policy Editor.

      Copilot requires KB5032278 or newer, not KB5032189

    • #2607185

      https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-10-22H2#3217msgdesc

      Desktop icons might move unexpectedly between monitors
      OS Build 19045.3758
      KB5032278

      Windows devices using more than one (1) monitor might experience issues with desktop icons moving unexpectedly between monitors or other icon alignment issues when attempting to use Copilot in Windows (in preview).

      To prevent users from encountering this issue, Copilot in Windows might not be available on devices that have been used or are currently being used in a multimonitor configuration. You might also not be able to update to Windows 11, version 23H2 as we have applied a compatibility hold on devices encountering this issue.

      If your organization is using Windows Update for Business reports, the safeguard ID is 47615939.

      Note: We recommend that you do not attempt to manually update to Windows 11, version 23H2 using the Update now button or the Media Creation Tool until this issue has been resolved and the safeguard removed.

      Next steps: We are working on a resolution and will provide an update in an upcoming release…

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