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      • #43650
        woody
        Manager

        Likely the #1 way for Microsoft to make money off Windows 10. InfoWorld Woody on Windows.
        [See the full post at: Cortana now restricted to Edge and Bing: It’s the clicks, stupid]

      • #43651
        louis
        Guest

        @Woody,

        In essence, isn’t this type of behavior anti-competitive? Shades of IE and Windows OS being tied together and the resultant US anti-trust law case?

        Let alone the complete disregard of their users.

      • #43652
        woody
        Manager

        I believe it’s using a monopoly in one area to gain unfair advantage in another. Although, given Windows’ rapid decline, it may be difficult to show that Windows is a monopoly….

        Regardless, it seems that neither the regulators nor Microsoft’s competitors are really interested in pursuing it.

      • #43653
        Joe Friday
        Guest

        “The only way we can confidently deliver this personalized, end-to-end search experience is through the integration of Cortana, Microsoft Edge, and Bing — all designed to do more for you.” R.Gavin M$FT

        ————

        “What’s even better is that Microsoft is releasing version of Cortana for Android devices and the iPhone, so no matter what your choice of device you can still sync up your data.

        http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/feature/windows/should-i-upgrade-windows-10-advice-win7-win8-chrome-3618139/

        ———–

        “Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.”
        ― George Orwell, 1984

        Hmmmmmm.

        JF

      • #43654
        SteampunkTech
        Guest

        From what this graph says its still not touching Windows 7 a lot, so Cortana hasn’t managed to be a huge Windows 10 magnet anyway.

        https://www.gosquared.com/global/windows/10/#launch

      • #43655
        woody
        Manager

        Yep, no matter how you measure it, windows 7 is still about 50% of Windows usage. XP is still very significant, too.

      • #43656
        woody
        Manager

        A bit o’ cognitive dissonance at work, methinks – but I bet Cortana is reasonably successful on both Android and iPhone, simply because people will get tethered to it on the desktop/laptop.

      • #43657
        poohsticks
        Guest

        Woody wrote above,
        “…given Windows’ rapid decline, it may be difficult to show that Windows is a monopoly”

        Ah-ha — maybe there *is* a method behind their madness, in terms of so-rapidly destroying their brand image and customer goodwill: it’s to quickly dilute their monopoly position and therefore cunningly *save* them from being fined for gazillions by the EU and such.
        Or not!

        ——————
        I haven’t used Windows 10 and I don’t really know what Cortana is
        (besides the description here, which makes it sound like an increasingly-tied-in cloud-y search kind of thing inside a Windows 10 computer, which kind of makes me feel claustrophobic just thinking about it, but that is also going to be available for other companies’ devices, confusingly),
        and I don’t know if the name has been taken from a Latin root word, or a Spanish word, or something (no offense meant, if it is),
        but the commercial name of “Cortana” conjures up, in my mind, an image of a late-60s/early-70s, lowish-budget, clunky car model, maybe orangish or avocado-colored, shaped something like a Pinto. 🙂

      • #43658
        poohsticks
        Guest

        This is entirely unimportant, but I meant the lighter-green avocado-flesh color (like a 70’s bathroom suite in “avocado”, which some of my relatives had),
        not the darker-green avocado-skin color, which I would find comforting to look at, like being in a forest.
        🙂

      • #43659
        poohsticks
        Guest

        Mainly it’s a type of snail?
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortana_(gastropod)

        various meanings
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortana

        The “u” spelling, to me, feels more right for the sword.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtana

        Maybe it’s mostly a modern, fake-word/focus-group creation, which has been the impression it gives me… ugh.

        Sorry about the tangent.

      • #43660
        Gillespie
        Guest

        “Cortana” is actually named after another Micro$oft intellectual property; much like the female-identifying AI of the same name from the “Halo” series of video games, Cortana in Windows 10 is apparently supposed to be Clippy on steroids… or perhaps Skynet.

      • #43661
        Joe Friday
        Guest

        Gillespie says: “Cortana is actually
        “… or Clippy…or perhaps Skynet.”

        Or perhaps Big Brother [Microsoft]’s top spy, or main squeeze, or all the above.

        JF

      • #43662
        poohsticks
        Guest

        Thank you for explaining the origin of MS’ Cortana name to me!

      • #43663
        ThatTechGuy
        Guest
      • #43664
        woody
        Manager

        Wow. That was fast.

      • #43665
        ch100
        AskWoody_MVP

        Ford Cortina perhaps? 🙂
        I think I read in Woody’s book about Windows 10 from where comes the name Cortana. I won’t deconspire the meaning here though.

      • #43666
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Besides all the sarcasm and jokes (which I must say they deserve), there is a serious side to all of this. Edge is still under development and Bing has a miserable market share (under 5%). Cortana is a novelty which I understand will be turned off, by default, in the Enterprise version. So Microsoft has walled off three ‘services’ that are pretty much substandard when compared to what the competitors have on offer.

        Will Microsoft now see these three ‘services’ as in the bag or will they assign some of their top talent to elevating them to best of class?

        Google is overwhelming preferred by users as a search engine, so that may lessen Edge’s market share even more. Microsoft will doubt have to nurse that injury until the Enterprise users are in the majority on W10 (2020?). Is this going to be all Microsoft is going to rely on to show a boost their market share?

        PR will be in full swing until we see anything of substance. ‘Service’ is both a noun and a verb, but to date Microsoft only coverts the noun.

      • #43667
        woody
        Manager

        Points very well taken.

      • #43668
        Joe Friday
        Guest

        “Service’ is both a noun and a verb…”

        Being ‘serviced’ by M$ is definitely not desired.

        JF

      • #43669
        james P. Fuller
        Guest

        > Cortana in Windows 10 is apparently supposed > to be Clippy on steroids… or perhaps Skynet.

        Open the pod bay doors, HAL.

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