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    Home Forums AskWoody support Windows Windows 7 Windows 7 patches Diagtrack appeared in security patches

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      • #2276388 Reply
        AskWoody Lounger

        Been using only security manual patches for years now, not had any problems, recently i discovered that on my system somehow appeared diagtrack service,  how did that happen ? is microsoft now including telemetry **** in only security updates or service stack updates or framework, ie updates ? i’m thinking how did this happened. any ideas ? is anyone have similar case here ?

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      • #2276400 Reply
        Da Boss

        Please see AKB2000003.

        Microsoft has included telemetry in several of the Security-only monthly updates.
        The list of Security-only updates and IE11 CUs are marked with information about telemetry content.

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      • #2276409 Reply
        AskWoody Lounger

        Thanks for quick replay. so there is no point anymore for group b to exist ? back to standard updates routine ? what is the benefits then ?

        • This reply was modified 1 week, 3 days ago by markokk888.
        • #2276411 Reply
          Da Boss

          Basically, you nailed it.
          Read through  AKB2000012, @abbodi86 ‘s Method for Neutralizing Telemetry. I use the Monthly Rollup and run the script as a Scheduled Task on startup. It works pretty well.

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      • #2276432 Reply

        It can be disabled in the Firewall.  Control Panel>Firewall>Allow an app or feature through…

        Activate Change Settings by clicking on it then uncheck DiagTrack.  Updates will probably reset it.

        Thing is, this is one of many, many data collectors in Windows; I have over 30 services disabled, a huge number of gpedit switches closed, tasks disabled, system level ad blocker/anti tracker, etc.

        The only MS program we use is Windows; a decade ago we used many of them.  No Chredge, no Defender, no Cloud, everything beside the OS is third party.  Windows works very well, much faster, that way.   Takes a lot of learning, which is silly.  Oh well.

        Try PKCano’s recommendation.  Me, I’m getting closer to Linux.  Ubuntu on our little home server and Fedora this month on the test laptop.  So far, I like it, may be a winner!


      • #2276833 Reply
        AskWoody Lounger

        Anonymous, i assume you using windows 10. But in windows 7 there is not much telemetry apart introduced with the security updates i think its the diagtrack and one more nasty thing can’t remember the name for it.

        PKCano, does monthly rollups introduce more nasty things in to the system ? And what if we uninstall some security only updates only those who have nasty things bundled with them. ? Is there any way to modify update files to exclude nasty things? I think in windows 2000 era it was possible to manipulate and modify update files.

        • This reply was modified 1 week, 2 days ago by markokk888.
        • #2276838 Reply
          Da Boss

          If you remove Security-only patches (or don’t install them), you are missing the security fixes they contain b/c they are not cumulative. There is no way to install or uninstall “part” of a patch.

          However, if you use the procedure in AKB2000012, and set the script as a Scueduled Task to run on startup, it pretty much neutralizes the effect of the telemetry MS adds, even if you use the Monthly Rollups. You can use the same setup to clean up the Security-only installs so you don’t miss the important security fixes as well.

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          • #2276839 Reply
            AskWoody Lounger

            Well thanks for your help. I don’t think I’m gonna continue use windows in the future, it’s becoming painful and ugly, sadly can’t replace windows completely still need it for some tasks. Better spend time to configure linux as you want than spending time removing this.. from windows..

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