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Consumers: Edge 105 came out and if you used 0&0shutup10 to tune telemetry for Edge it may not start.  Plus member CyberSar figured out the fix. F
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Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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FYI:
There is an ‘exploit in the wild’ reported by the Chromium Team under CVE-2022-3075

Updates available to 105.0.1343.27 stable channel
also for Extended Stable channel Edge to v104.0.1293.81

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Edge Version 105.0.1343.27

Summary
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The following CVE was assigned by Chrome. Microsoft Edge
(Chromium-based) ingests Chromium, which addresses these vulnerabilities. Please see
Google Chrome Releases (https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2022) for more information.

See
https://msrc-blog.microsoft.com/2021/01/13/security-update-guide-supports-cves-assigned-by-industry-partners/
for more information about third-party CVEs in the Security Update Guide.

*CVE-2022-3075

Revision Information:
=====================

– Version 1.0
– Reason for Revision: Information published.
– Originally posted: September 2, 2022

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Insufficient data validation in Mojo: read Exploitable
Update to algorithm validating Mojo filtering out of corrupt messages in MessagePipes

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Is there a good reason why we should not uninstall Microsoft Edge from our PCs?

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Fred

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reintroduction in the future whether by CU or feature update is a good enough reason here.
As it’s not used on any of our devices, I just put it to sleep and manually update when updates are available, checking microsoft edge release notes every couple of days. YMMV

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Kathy Stevens wrote:

Is there a good reason why we should not uninstall Microsoft Edge from our PCs?

Nope, not from here.  I uninstalled Edge as soon as it went all Google, and I haven’t noticed a thing; zip, nada, nothing, no downside whatsoever.  YMMV

I use Firefox set on Automatic Update, now on v104.0.1.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

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Fred

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I personally prefer Edge over Firefox.  In a business setting, the group policy ability of Edge and Chrome are better to control business security.  I don’t find that Firefox has the same group policy ability.

The current edge is not the old Internet explorer. It’s based on Chrome.  Is there a good reason to uninstall it?  I always keep more than one browser (I have four on this laptop).

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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Kathy Stevens

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Susan Bradley wrote:

In a business setting …

I well understand that business settings have their own requirements, but I’m not in a business, my needs are simpler, and I can cater to them alone.

Susan Bradley wrote:

The current edge is not the old Internet explorer. It’s based on Chrome. Is there a good reason to uninstall it?

Because it’s based on Chrome.  I don’t want to have anything at all to do with anything Chrome or Google.  My current online footprint (based on “targeted” ads in my Facebook feed from time to time) has me in a different city and as a different gender.  I always hide those ads and mark them as irrelevant, and Facebook has about given up on ads in my feed.

I also do a routine hopscotch back to DuckDuckGo from site to site.  In other words, every site I visit only sees me coming from DuckDuckGo and leaving for DuckDuckGo, so the trail is short.  If I used Google, that procedure would be useless.

Susan Bradley wrote:

I always keep more than one browser (I have four on this laptop).

In my experience there is no need for multiple browsers.  Firefox has plenty of privacy and security add-ons and extensions available, so I don’t see any ads at all no matter where I visit, which is what I want.  Keeping one browser current and setup as I want it is fairly simple.  I see no reason to try to ride herd on three or four when I get everything I want from one.

And again, I’m an at-home user, no business worries.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

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Cybertooth

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Susan

I am not familiar with the group policy capability of Edge and Chrome to control business security.

Sometime, if you are looking for something to write about, you may want to consider opening a topic on the subject.

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Susan Bradley wrote:

I don’t find that Firefox has the same group policy ability.

Maybe not the same, but it has at least some.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customizing-firefox-using-group-policy-windows

My organization uses it only to disable Firefox’s own automatic updates, because they deploy those with Intune. They do the same with Chrome (which 99% of people use), but oddly enough leave Edge alone.

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In my experience there is no need for multiple browsers. Firefox has plenty of privacy and security add-ons and extensions available, so I don’t see any ads at all no matter where I visit, which is what I want.

While that may be true for you I can’t tell you the number of times I have assisted clients when their browser was hosed but they were able to get online with IE or Edge. I have also had issues with online payments on occasion using my favorite Firefox ESR. Was able to get in with Brave and do the transaction. Haven’t had it too often lately but last year occurred quite a bunch when transferring from BestBuy and other sites to PayPal.

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cyberSAR wrote:

While that may be true for you I can’t tell you the number of times I have assisted clients when their browser was hosed but they were able to get online with IE or Edge.

That is my point.  It is true for me.  Firefox has never been hosed, I’ve never had any trouble doing anything that I need to do online, I can download my account files from my credit union and balance my books every day.

bbearren wrote:

In my experience there is no need for multiple browsers.

I don’t prepare for the problems of other people (which is not to say that I can’t help some people with some problems), I prepare for problems that I have/had/may encounter based on my own experience and my own setup which I have developed and tweaked for more than a couple of decades.

 

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

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That is my point.  It is true for me.  Firefox has never been hosed, I’ve never had any trouble doing anything that I need to do online, I can download my account files from my credit union and balance my books every day.

Great. Hope it stays that way for you. My motto is never say never. I just hope my clients don’t follow your advice!

Never Say Never

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cyberSAR wrote:

I just hope my clients don’t follow your advice!

I would certainly hope that your clients would follow your advice.  We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do. We don’t all have to do the same things.

cyberSAR wrote:

Great. Hope it stays that way for you.

It will.  I have a few simple rules:

bbearren wrote:

Rule One: Have up-to-date known-good drive images of everything on the PC before doing anything.

Rule Two: For BIOS, Drivers, Programs/Apps, does it provide some functionality that I, personally, specifically need? If the answer is No, it doesn’t matter who has recommended it, I don’t update it.

Rule Three: For Windows updates, refer to Rule One, then proceed with the update/upgrade.

Rule Four: Refer to Rule One. Hardware failure, malware, ransomware, pooched OS updates/upgrades can all be resolved by following Rule One. That’s what I have pretty much figured out.

bbearren wrote:

Firefox has never been hosed, I’ve never had any trouble doing anything that I need to do online

But if that ever happens, I can restore my OS partition (where all things Firefox reside) in under three minutes.  My last test restore of my OS partition (which I advise for everyone—that’s why I refer to “known-good” drive images) was last Tuesday and took 2:26 from the Recovery Partition, and from there I continued to boot into Windows 11.

That’s Settings > Windows updates > Advanced options > Recovery > Restart now, a restart to Image For Windows-enabled Recovery Environment > Image For Windows > Launch > Restore > Next > Select the file > Next > Select the target > Next > Start.  2:26 later, Exit > Continue to Windows 11, and a restored Windows 11 OS boots.

All together, under 4 minutes.  In my experience I see no need for more than one browser because one does everything I want to do, but that’s just my setup.  YMMV

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

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Firefox has never been hosed, I’ve never had any trouble doing anything that I need to do online, I can download my account files from my credit union and balance my books every day.

Missing my point. What if your credit union rolls out an update to their site, screws up and Firefox doesn’t work to do what you want. IF it is something time-sensitive like when I had to pay server invoices and purchase products for repairs having an alternative means to handle it worked out very well. Yes, they fixed it a week or so later but that isn’t acceptable in my mind! Happens more than you know.

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cyberSAR wrote:

What if your credit union rolls out an update to their site, screws up and Firefox doesn’t work to do what you want.

They have, twice.  The latest was a couple of months ago.  Firefox lets me examine the code.  The first time it was as simple as a traffic counter, and I allowed an exception in one of my extensions for my credit union site.  Problem solved.

This last one was a change in the login procedure.  Again, Firefox lets me examine the code.  I found a simple workaround.  Still don’t need another browser.

cyberSAR wrote:

IF it is something time-sensitive like when I had to pay server invoices …

My credit union credit card offers 2% cash back on every purchase, groceries, gas, convenience store soda, every purchase, including paying bills.  I have two monthly bills that require a check; my lawn care service and my utility bill (I live in a small town that is not online except for a non-interactive web site).  The rest of my bills are on auto pay using my credit union credit card.  I’m never in a rush because the time-sensitive stuff is already taken care of.

No payments are ever late.  I pay my credit union credit card balance (using Firefox) a little over two weeks before the due date.  Plenty of time to sort things out should the need arise.  That 2% cash back amounts to ~$40 – ~$50 every month that gets automatically rolled into my savings account.

bbearren wrote:

And again, I’m an at-home user, no business worries.

cyberSAR wrote:

Missing my point.

Perhaps that’s the other way ’round?

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

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Perhaps that’s the other way ’round?

Maybe so. May you enjoy peace and prosper. Hoping you don’t ever run into issues. Out!

Never Say Never

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“We’re still tracking the ability to bypass a Microsoft account setup in 22H2.”

Is this is a concern for those of us who will be updating from our existing 21H2 with a local account to 22H2 (after you give the all clear)?

In other words, if we are currently running Win10 (Pro here)  with a local account will the eventual update to 22H2 respect that and leave it alone or will it try to push us into a Microsoft account?

Thanks!

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LH

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No. An upgrade will leave your account as is, Local.
But if you get a new computer with 22H2, that’s another story. MS wants everyone with Win Home to use an MS account .

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Average-Jane

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PKCano wrote:

No. An upgrade will leave your account as is, Local.

Thanks, PK. That’s what I assumed. I wanted to confirm, though.

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They also want everyone on Win11 Pro to use a Microsoft account, given 22H2’s onerous requirements.

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Kathy Stevens wrote:

Is there a good reason why we should not uninstall Microsoft Edge from our PCs?

Yes if you still have some software that require IE.

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