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      • #36332 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        If you’re having problems with the double-print bug in MS16-098 — the one we’ve been talking about for three weeks now — the plot’s become even thic
        [See the full post at: Double-print-fixing patches updated, but still only on the Catalog]

      • #36333 Reply
        ch100
        AskWoody_MVP

        It looks like a patch freeze for Windows Operating Systems on Windows Update. They probably need reassessing their current practices which have been out of control for a while.

      • #36334 Reply
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This is really weird — does anybody even know whether KB 3187022 does not have problems of its own. If you have not installed KB 3177225 as of yet, I think it is wise to remain on the sideline.

      • #36335 Reply
        Simpson
        Guest

        I agree. Here on Win7 I had installed KB3177225, learned about the printing issue, discovered here at askwoody (bravo!) the “RSS trick” to download the issue fix KB3187022 right from Microsoft’s Catalog servers, downloaded it and went for a thought or two. I decided to remove KB3177225 rather than to fix it with KB3187022 on the basis that “wait and see” is a better option than “take a chance, Jack?” given the uncertainty of Microsoft’s chaos.

      • #36336 Reply
        John
        Guest

        So wait.. the fix for Windows 7 is 1.6 meg, and the fix for windows 10 is 900??

      • #36337 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Win10 fixes are cumulative – but this one’s weird because it isn’t officially issued yet.

      • #36338 Reply
        John
        Guest

        So has anyone tried the Windows 10 one? I have some computers here that are having print issues that I really need to fix.

      • #36339 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        I haven’t tried it. Remarkably, the companies that sell software that was broken by the security patch don’t have any public notice about their tests.

        https://support.seagullscientific.com/hc/en-us/articles/225047808

        “Microsoft has released an update that addresses the issue for Windows 8.1, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows Server 2012, and Windows Server 2008 R2. An update for Windows 10 is still pending; we will update this page as soon as it is available. You can find more information about the update in the Microsoft article KB3187022. The update can be obtained from the Microsoft Update Catalog.”

        https://www.combit.net/en/reporting-tool/forum/t9640/!!-printing-problems-with-list-label-since-mi/

        “according to Dan Mattson (Microsoft) a bugfix is available (earlier than expected), at least “for some platforms”. (As it seems, Windows 10 Anniversary Update is not covered by this fix.)”

        I think it’s important to note that neither site has acknowledged the re-issue of the KB 3187022 patch (for Vista, Win7 and 8.1) on Aug. 30th. Microsoft hasn’t said if you need to re-install it.

        The whole thing’s a botched-up mess.

      • #36340 Reply
        abbodi86
        Guest

        KB3187022 has not re-issued, it was released for Win7/8.1 (with there server variant) last week
        yesterday they just released it for Vista

      • #36341 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Ah, so that’s the difference!

      • #36342 Reply
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        Yup woody. Only MS KB article 3187022 was revised on 8/30 to mention Vista/Server 2008, not the patches themselves.

      • #36343 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Oh I see now. The Aug 30 version is for Vista only. The Aug 24 version was for Win7, 8.1, etc. Both with the same KB number, but released a week apart. Apparently hotfixes.

        Very strange. Can’t say I’ve ever seen this before.

      • #36344 Reply
        Shiro
        Guest

        If you use the previously posted guide to download this stuff using firefox, you get the complete list. The one from 8/30 is for Itanium.

        Good tip that guide, I had the wrong version, but using Firefox you get to see all nicely listed.

      • #36345 Reply
        ch100
        AskWoody_MVP

        Windows Update uses the Express files (deltas), while the windows Catalog download is the full Cumulative Update. For individual installations, downloading full files should be avoided unless there is a specific reason which does not allow installing via windows Update.

      • #36346 Reply
        Jeri
        Guest

        Woody,
        If KB3177725 freezes print jobs and KB3187022 is an update to fix but only available on Microsoft Update Catalog what is the web address for Microsoft Update Catalog in IE? I use Google but I don’t have Rss solution so can’t use Google to find fix update. I don’t know enough about computers. I just need simple help to find the update and get it downloaded and installed.

        My head hurts from all of this mess! I’ve never downloaded from the MS Update Catalog before so I need help. I guess I’ll use Internet Explorer to find and download the KB. Hope it downloads to where I can find it or will it automatically download and install it when I download it from MS Catalog?

      • #36347 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Assuming you’re using Win7… there’s no reason to install KB3187022 unless you’re having specific problems with the double-printing bug. Some software packages (e.g., barcode printers) have the problem; many corporate “line of business” apps have the problem. If you haven’t hit the problem, don’t sweat it.

        You can use Chrome to find the update. Just click this link:

        http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Rss.aspx?q=KB3187022

        See

        http://www.infoworld.com/article/3112862/microsoft-windows/how-to-check-the-microsoft-update-catalog-with-any-browser.html

      • #36348 Reply
        John
        Guest

        I have been affected by it. I work for a library and we have receipt type printers that have been affected, both Windows 7 and Windows 10.

      • #36349 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Yikes! Yep, you need the patch.

      • #36350 Reply
        Jeri
        Guest

        Woody, I am relieved to say I do not have the print issue. However, the link you provided to me returns the following message. It does not take me to Microsoft Update Catalog for download. After this message below a ton of script appears. Am I missing something in how to access it?

        “This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.”

      • #36351 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        No, you’re doing fine. The link you want is at the beginning of the list.

        My guess is that you’re using Chrome. If you are, and you want to see a formatted list, install the extension called “RSS Subscription extension (by Google)”

        Folks who use Firefox see the formatted list automatically. I think.

      • #36352 Reply
        Jeri
        Guest

        Yes I’m using Chrome. How do I find/get RSS Subscription extension? Do I need to Google it? Is there a link to take me to it to add to my extensions?

      • #36353 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        It’s a plain old everyday extension. In Chrome, click the hamburger icon in the upper right corner, choose More tools, Extensions, and at the bottom Get more extensions. You’re looking for “RSS Subscription Extension (by Google)”

      • #36354 Reply
        Jeri!
        Guest

        Oh Woody thank you! So simple I feel stupid. I know enough about computers to be dangerous which is why I rely on sources like you. Appreciate you taking time to help folks like me.

      • #36355 Reply
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        KB3187022 is no longer needed as newly released KB3185911 replaces both KB3187022 and KB3177725 for Vista, 7 & 8.x.

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