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    • #1447913 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      I’ve been speculating (spreading rumors?) about this for months, but it seems highly unlikely we’ll ever see anything resembling a “real” Win10 versio
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    • #1449869 Reply

      b
      AskWoody Plus

      Depends what your definition of “real” is. Not even “cosmetic changes” or “phantom features”?

      Enterprise and Education are going to expect a version to be supported for 30 months from then.

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      • #1450729 Reply

        anonymous

        Enterprise pretty much won’t touch anything but LTSC, not even with a 10tf pole. They don’t have time for this madness.

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          b
          AskWoody Plus

          No Office 365 then? I thought Enterprises were rather keen on that.

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          • #1476295 Reply

            anonymous

            I know of at least one big engineering company that chose LTSB 2016 – it was either that or they were staying on Windows 7. The removal of support for Office 365 was done by Microsoft to discourage LTSB/LTSC adoption, but it wasn’t there from the start.

        • #1456921 Reply

          warrenrumak
          AskWoody Plus

          This is embarrassingly inaccurate.  Microsoft doesn’t support, promote or recommend using LTSC for a business desktop.  It’s for, like, kiosks and medical equipment and so on.

          To wit….. We’ve got a fleet of 10,000+ Windows 10 machines here.  Everyone was just updated to 1809 Enterprise — non-LTSC — last week.  Previously most people were on some combination of 1607, 1709 and 1803.

           

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      • #1450986 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        Yep, and if we’re luck y this will be the beginning of a “one real update a year” tempo – with a Service Pack, er, “tock” version in the Fall.

    • #1451517 Reply

      Seff
      AskWoody Plus

      If it should be the case that MS intend to scale back on the frequency of the Windows 10 versions and revert to an annual or even occasional “Service Pack plus monthly updates” development cycle, then that raises the question of whether they are going to end up similarly reconsidering the EOL arrangements for Windows 7, as well as the question of whether they are making such a change to Windows 10 version releases – if they are doing so – because of problems in maintaining the quality of Windows 10 version development or because of the failure to convert more Windows 7 users to Windows 10 in the first place.

      Whatever position or view you take on all this, the next few months could well prove interesting…

    • #1454877 Reply

      joep517
      AskWoody MVP

      I saw a Mary Jo Foley tweet saying that she’s heard the 19h2 release will be little more than a service pack for 19H1. NO, that does not mean they are going back to service packs. The terminology was just to give a sense of the type of content.

      --Joe

    • #1469352 Reply

      arfurdent
      AskWoody Lounger

      or is this the initial sign that Microsoft is pulling back from the consumer desktop market to go down the Chromebook / Cloud approach

    • #1487171 Reply

      anonymous

      I suspect the vast majority of everyday consumers who use Windows for more than browsing the internet or email are those who play games requiring Windows.  For example, those who have libraries on Steam, Origin, Uplay, etc.  It will be interesting to see the fallout from that industry if Microsoft tries to move the consumer market to a Chromebook/cloud approach.

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