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        woody
        Da Boss

        I’ve been speculating (spreading rumors?) about this for months, but it seems highly unlikely we’ll ever see anything resembling a “real” Win10 versio
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        b
        AskWoody Plus

        Depends what your definition of “real” is. Not even “cosmetic changes” or “phantom features”?

        Enterprise and Education are going to expect a version to be supported for 30 months from then.

        • #1450729 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Enterprise pretty much won’t touch anything but LTSC, not even with a 10tf pole. They don’t have time for this madness.

          • #1451215 Reply
            b
            AskWoody Plus

            No Office 365 then? I thought Enterprises were rather keen on that.

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              anonymous
              Guest

              I know of at least one big engineering company that chose LTSB 2016 – it was either that or they were staying on Windows 7. The removal of support for Office 365 was done by Microsoft to discourage LTSB/LTSC adoption, but it wasn’t there from the start.

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            warrenrumak
            AskWoody Plus

            This is embarrassingly inaccurate.  Microsoft doesn’t support, promote or recommend using LTSC for a business desktop.  It’s for, like, kiosks and medical equipment and so on.

            To wit….. We’ve got a fleet of 10,000+ Windows 10 machines here.  Everyone was just updated to 1809 Enterprise — non-LTSC — last week.  Previously most people were on some combination of 1607, 1709 and 1803.

             

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        • #1450986 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          Yep, and if we’re luck y this will be the beginning of a “one real update a year” tempo – with a Service Pack, er, “tock” version in the Fall.

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        Seff
        AskWoody Plus

        If it should be the case that MS intend to scale back on the frequency of the Windows 10 versions and revert to an annual or even occasional “Service Pack plus monthly updates” development cycle, then that raises the question of whether they are going to end up similarly reconsidering the EOL arrangements for Windows 7, as well as the question of whether they are making such a change to Windows 10 version releases – if they are doing so – because of problems in maintaining the quality of Windows 10 version development or because of the failure to convert more Windows 7 users to Windows 10 in the first place.

        Whatever position or view you take on all this, the next few months could well prove interesting…

      • #1454877 Reply
        joep517
        AskWoody MVP

        I saw a Mary Jo Foley tweet saying that she’s heard the 19h2 release will be little more than a service pack for 19H1. NO, that does not mean they are going back to service packs. The terminology was just to give a sense of the type of content.

        --Joe

      • #1469352 Reply
        arfurdent
        AskWoody Plus

        or is this the initial sign that Microsoft is pulling back from the consumer desktop market to go down the Chromebook / Cloud approach

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        anonymous
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        I suspect the vast majority of everyday consumers who use Windows for more than browsing the internet or email are those who play games requiring Windows.  For example, those who have libraries on Steam, Origin, Uplay, etc.  It will be interesting to see the fallout from that industry if Microsoft tries to move the consumer market to a Chromebook/cloud approach.

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