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  • Going to bite the bullet and upgrade to 1903

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    Home Forums AskWoody support Windows Windows 10 Windows 10 version 1803 – April 2018 Update Going to bite the bullet and upgrade to 1903

    This topic contains 12 replies, has 6 voices, and was last updated by  dmt_3904 3 days, 15 hours ago.

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    • #1994895 Reply

      dmt_3904
      AskWoody Plus

      I am on 1803 Build 10.0.17134 Win 10 Pro and have decided to just upgrade to 1903.  I see Susan Bradley notes in the last Ask Woody + newsletter. Do I have get these before I update?
      Cumulative 4520008 for Version 1803, Servicing Stack 4521861 for Version 1803 Netframework 4524098 for Version 1803 – are these in the October update, which I haven’t gotten yet. I have Sept update.   I can remove blocks to get October.  I’ve also read that you should turn off antivirus bc it can interfere – have MBAM & ESET. What should I ensure I do prior to getting 1903 to prepare?  It’s so confusing to me right now, I don’t want to mess it up, help! Thanks!

    • #1994913 Reply

      PKCano
      Da Boss

      You don’t have to do any further updates to v1803 before upgrading to v1903. If you are using a third-party update blocker, you should turn it off first, though.
      Turning off the AV own’t hurt anything, but it is not necessary.

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      • #1994928 Reply

        dmt_3904
        AskWoody Plus

        And just for my own knowledge – is the reason I don’t have to do any updates because V1903 has all prior updates needed?  Or some other reason?  thanks.

        • #1994929 Reply

          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Althouth it is an “upgrade.” v1903 is like a different version of Win10. It’s like installing a different Operating System, so it brings with it everything it needs.

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    • #1996227 Reply

      Tex265
      AskWoody Plus

      I am on 1803 Build 10.0.17134 Win 10 Pro and have decided to just upgrade to 1903.

      Please let us know the method you use and how it goes.

      There are many many of us here in the same situation trying to decide how to proceed.

      Windows 10 Pro x64 v1903 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64
      • #1997683 Reply

        dmt_3904
        AskWoody Plus

        I know, gulp. I’m really worried and just hoping I won’t run into problems and it all goes smoothly.  I am not going to do it until 11/11 or 11/12 – due to other commitments.  I can’t be distracted! 😀  I am preparing now – going to create a recovery drive (don’t have one), I have cloud backup, I’ve noted all installed apps/programs in case I have to reload, got license keys for apps that need it, my Windows 10 is licensed to the h/w – digital key, ensuring I have passwords I’ll need (e.g. have to logon to Microsoft account).

        I don’t know if anyone has any other suggestions to prepare for this?

        Just don’t feel like dealing with the fallout when it goes wrong – I know it’ll be ok, whatever happens, but I’ve had soooo many issues in the past.  I’m not super-techie – it can be so stressful when things go sideways (it was) and it’s been a good long run of non-issues, I’d like to keep that going.  Maybe I depend too much on my computer/devices, I’d like to not be so worried, but that’s a topic for a different forum ! : D 😀

        I’ll post my results when I get there.

        • #2017944 Reply

          dmt_3904
          AskWoody Plus

          Finally,  finally got around to updating on Monday!   All is well !! 😁  All went well !  I had my back ups (I purchased Macrium) and prepared for the update. I had set deferral days to 120 to get 1903. (I had tried a couple days before to get 1809 and that download did not work.  Kept re-downloading upon completion and I thought things were corrupted; had to delete this software distribution folder.)

          Update took about two hours.   So far, the only problems I have had are:  Calculator would not open. I ran app  troubleshooter which found nothing.   I tried to uninstall, which did not work.   I had downloaded the app from the store. I searched online to find out how to uninstall the calculator app and found a very simple powershell command to uninstall.   I ran that, rebooted re-installed and it’s working!    The other issue was at first outlook did not connect.  Shut it down. Tried again.  Then it connected but did not update.   I thought it was going to be a problem but it just started working!   I could have other issues but I haven’t found any yet.  I have paused updates until January.

          All in all I’m very happy; just waiting for the goahead for Dec CU.  Thank you everyone for all your help !  I couldn’t have done it without you. 🙂

    • #1997757 Reply

      joep517
      AskWoody MVP

      Don’t just create a recovery drive. Create an image backup of the system. There are several free tools available to do that. Check out Macrium Reflect Free version. Easeus Todo backup free version, and/or AOMEI Backupper. An image backup allows you to recover quickly should the upgrade fail and the system does not recover on its own.

      --Joe

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      • #1997806 Reply

        dmt_3904
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks for the suggestion.  I was going to use the Windows tool for image backup to an external hard drive. What does an app, like Macrium provide that is different or better?   Like I said, I also have cloud backup for my data, but it is not a mirror image.

        • #1997865 Reply

          cyberSAR
          AskWoody Plus

          dmt_3904 I’m not sure how good the windows image tool is. I haven’t used it in many years after a bad experience. I use Acronis (paid) and macrium. I always create my image by booting to a thumb drive and running Acronis except for systems I do remotely. Not a fan of creating an image with Windows running, but you do what you gotta do 🙂

          As far as the upgrade goes, I prefer to run the upgrade from a downloaded iso, but have done a few with the windows update upgrade. Prior to the upgrade, and after creating all my backups (I don’t fully trust online backups so I also back up locally), I update drivers, do a thorough system cleanup (temp files etc) run a chkdsk and sfc and defrag/optimize the drive. Want the system as clean and operating as well as possible. I disable any unneeded startup programs, online backups, A/V and/or anti-malware programs prior to upgrading.

          After the upgrade completes I usually just let the system sit for an hour or two before rebooting and checking for updates and operation.

          I’ve done a bunch of these on very old and new systems and have had only a couple minor issues which were easily fixed. HTH and good luck!

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          • #2004047 Reply

            dmt_3904
            AskWoody Plus

            “As far as the upgrade goes, I prefer to run the upgrade from a downloaded iso”

            I have never done an update this way.  What is different about ISO download than windows update?  Why is it better than using windows update?  If I do this, should I just follow instructions from MS website?  thanks.

            • #2004056 Reply

              cyberSAR
              AskWoody Plus

              The upgrade seems to go faster with the iso plus I can be disconnected from the internet during the upgrade process. Also I like having the iso in case of repair etc. I also have multiple machines so it saves time. To do the update from the iso just right-click and mount and run setup.

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        • #1998187 Reply

          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          3rd party backup apps give you more options, like incremental backup, consolidation, individual file restore, clone / restore to different hardware. Plus they tend to have a more friendly interface.

          cheers, Paul

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