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Guide to Using WuMgr for Windows 10 Updates
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WuMgr for Windows 10 Explanation
WuMgr is third-party software created by DavidXanatos and performs Windows Update Management. It is an alternate method for Windows update operations. This topic is a short explanation on how to use WuMgr (Update Manager for Windows) to either install Windows updates or hide them.
Part I will deal with downloading and executing WUMgr.
Part II will show how to install Windows updates.
Part III will show how to hide Windows updates.
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Part I Downloading and Executing WuMgr
WuMgr is located at this address:
https://github.com/DavidXanatos/wumgrSelect Release 1.1
Select WuMgr_v1.1b.zip
Save file:
Extract files:
I extracted files here:
The executable file is here. Click on it to run it.
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Part II Installing Updates from WuMgr
There are six selections for WuMgr from left to right they are:
Circle: Search
Down arrow: Download
Down arrow with box: Install
Trash: Uninstall
Eye: Hide
Chain: Links
Select the circle on the far left.
Check the update you wish to install.
Select the box with the down arrow.
The update will download and install.
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Part III Hiding Updates in WuMgr
When you hide an update in WuMgr, the update is prevented from installing.
Select the circle on the far left.
Check the update you wish to hide.
Select the eye with the line through it.
The update will be hidden.
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Things in Windows update have a way of resetting themselves and new updates are sometimes introduced without notice. Check often with WuMgr to avoid surprises.
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How do you know it was WUmgr that broke WU? Maybe WU broke itself – I’ve had that happen.
WUmgr uses Windows Update to do the work and if you check in WU after using WUmgr you will see the same info.
cheers, Paul
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Appreciate this nfo. What of the settings at the bottom right corner? Options and Auto and Auto update? There appears to be some missing information here.
Also, I have used several settings within group policy and registry to control wu- will these have any impact on WuMgr? ie notice to download updates, exclude Drivers from quality updates and set automatic update options.
Also have blocked edge, Internet explorer,Cortana, some Telemetry (w10tel.cmd script written by–?), stopped indexing, stopped prefetch- more do not come to mind right now but will any of these be affected? Also set to stay on ver 1909 in group policy editor. Sorry about the haphazard presentation – I’ve been stopping and blocking since first Win 10 I saw- 17xx I think? Maybe 1803? I suspect I may want to do a clean install before too long! I actually use more utils than actual product producing proggies- Use open office for spread sheet and word proc, quicken, email client,firefox, VLC. So as you can see no big production stuff. I only add this stuff in case WuMgr may have an impact on these.
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For Auto Update, I use the default settings as shown here:
For Options, I also use the default settings.
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As further information, I have a plain-vanilla system and use O&O ShutUp10 to inhibit unwanted Windows options.
I use WuMgr to see what updates are available, including drivers, and hide them if I don’t want them. I can’t say that WuMgr won’t affect your system applications because I don’t have your system configuration. What I can say is that on my systems, WuMgr works well for managing Windows updates and does not affect other system operations.
In short, WuMgr has worked well on my three systems and without error to other software.
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WUMgr has worked well on my two Windows 10 systems, too. One time, I noticed that no patches had been offered for months on one of those machines, and it turned out that I’d clicked on the box to Block Access to WU Servers. Then I knew that WUMgr works as advertised.
I do select the Disable Automatic Update button instead of leaving the default selection. That way, no patches (presumably) will come in the door without my express approval. If I understand correctly how WUMgr works, the default setting is analogous to the “Install updates automatically” setting in the pre-Windows 10 update settings applet, while the Disable Automatic Update setting is like the setting to “Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them” in the old applet.
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I too use WuMgr on many Win10 machines and it works well.
Disable Automatic Update option, and completely UNcheck “Include drivers” option AND using “metered” internet connections and NO updates get automatically installed onto those Win10 PCs.are you using metered internet connections, Cybertooth?
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@EP, I don’t use Metered Connections. All the patching-related settings I use are through WUMgr. So far, they’ve been working well.
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Also, I have used several settings within group policy and registry to control wu- will these have any impact on WuMgr?
WUmgr runs Windows Update and won’t show updates not shown by Windows Update due to block/deferrals.
To show all pending updates you need to set in GP ‘notify don’t install = 2’ and leave quality and feature updates = 0.
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I didn’t really want to wade thru the WuMgr source code. What I’m hoping exists somewhere is an end user-friendly document with just a summary of what services, processes, tasks, etc. are getting blocked or disabled. I like the program; but it would be really nice to know conceptually what it’s doing — just a sentence or two that explains what each option does.
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I can’t speak for how WUMgr does any of these things, but I can tell you from experience that “Block Access to WU Servers” will prevent Windows not only from downloading each month’s patches, but even from displaying them in the WUMgr GUI. The setting to “Disable Store Auto Update” prevents apps from the Windows Store from updating themselves without your knowledge/approval.
Unfortunately, I can’t offer much help regarding the setting you were most curious about, “Disable Update Facilitators”. I would speculate that this has to do with auxiliary Windows services and/or tasks that participate in the process of finding, fetching, and installing patches, but that’s about as far as I can take it.
Maybe somebody else can pitch in with more specific info.
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There is no such document.
This sad fact is what explains the existence of the present thread, as well as several other attempts here at Woody’s to describe the workings of WUMgr.
David Xanatos has done a great job of creating his program, but some of the functions exposed in the GUI are far from self-explanatory. Imagine making an airplane and then providing no training/instruction manual for flying it: just try all the buttons and knobs to see what they do! 🙂
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Imagine making an airplane and then providing no training/instruction manual for flying it:
yeah … great … wasn’t there a problem with the Boeing 737 Max for exactly this same reason … I am not willing to just press buttons to see what happens!!
I have no complaints with the programming, whatsoever. I’d just like to know what the check boxes and icons do or do not do. As for the icons, most of them have been explained here … still wondering about the ‘link’ icon, though. And many of us have questions about some of the check boxes and don’t want to fly in the dark.
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Your PC is not likely to fall out of the sky, and you have a backup, so go for it!
cheers, Paul
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Just trying buttons is still an extremely crude approach. The point is that it would be much more preferable to have a manual to review before and as the user starts to fiddle with the application–hence this thread and others on this website.
I found a discussion of WUMgr that may help our understanding of some of the more obscure functions of the program.
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I found a discussion of WUMgr that may help our understanding of some of the more obscure functions of the program.
I’ve read this discussion. It’s very helpful.
a) Under the Auto Update tab, I wonder what the difference is between Disable Automatic Updates and not turning on the radio button for Automatic Update ?
b) Under the Options tab, I wonder if “Manual” download/install is the same as GP=2 notify download/install. In the discussion, Tittel says that it forces the user to authorize download/install. Sounds like GP=2.
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Link command:
Select the circle on the far left.
Check the update where you wish to see the link.
Select the box with the chain.This notice will appear at the bottom of WuMgr.
Update Download Links copyed to clipboardOpen Notepad and do a paste:
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Imagine making an airplane and then providing no training/instruction manual for flying it:
Boeing 737 ?
I don’t know of any 3rd party Windows app that has full documentation of changes made to Windows OS services, registry,… with one exception : Black Viper.
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a) Under the Auto Update tab, I wonder what the difference is between Disable Automatic Updates and not turning on the radio button for Automatic Update ?
There is no choice to be made there, really. You can’t both disable the button for automatic updates and not turn on the button for automatic updates: if one is not selected, then the other one will be.
b) Under the Options tab, I wonder if “Manual” download/install is the same as GP=2 notify download/install. In the discussion, Tittel says that it forces the user to authorize download/install. Sounds like GP=2.
Since I only use WUMgr, I no longer remember what the Win10 or GP update settings do. What I can say is that manual download/install works the same way as in Win7. (I suppose that if MS ever breaks WUMgr and it doesn’t get fixed, I’ll have to refresh my memory of the official update settings or, more likely, just switch to Linux full-time.) Somebody else in this thread should be able to give you a specific answer, though.
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KB4023057 will install in Control Panel\Programs & Features or in Settings App\Apps.
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… as Microsoft Update Health Tools in both places.
Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 build 19044.1151 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)
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Leave the WuMgr items, they will be tidied up next time you run it.
cheers, Paul
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Today, it shows hidden when I run wushowhide. However, upon reboot (with metered connection on), WU shows KB4023057 in the Q
Use WUmgr, WUmt, WAU Manager..
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There is nothing wrong with wushowhide, although one of the posters keeps repeating that is is no good. That is simply WRONG. I use it exclusively b/c I use what MS offers most of the time instead of third-tarty blockers and fix-its. And Microsoft has NOT discounted and abandoned it in spite of what that poster says.
Windows Update is static. When it does it’s routing scan, it cashes the list of updates until the next time it scans. That static cache is what you see in the Windows Update queue.
wushowhide is dynamic. It does its own scan with the same Service as WU, but its listing is current. When you HIDE something, you have to wait till WU rescans on its own before it updates the cache/list of updates in the queue.
See AKB2000013 How to clear the Update queue for a more thorough explanation.
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AND, both my WU History App and WUMgr show Jan-Feb-Mar CU’s as — IN PROGRESS — Vs Succeeded –. Is THAT unique to 20H2 and the Enablement Pkg approach?
Edit gone B4 I could say Settings / Quality Updates History Does Show – Installed — , BUT just found a column for — In Progress — with ( 0x80242014) Code for ea CU. That Code talks of Updates needing a Re-Start but there have been many since any/all of them. Confused as to Which Update Completion Rating is correct: Installed or In Progress.
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Sorry, BUT, at Install in the Auto Update Tab neither Disable Auto Update NOR Automatic Update (default) were checked. Knowing a Change required Re-Start I played around and checked Disable Automatic Update; Then I Clk’d Auto Update (default) and the dark circle moved BUT I could Not erase the Selection. Thinking a Close and Re-open with No Re-start would erase the last selection I found it does Not. A Re-Start Erased my Installed Updates and Hidden Updates — BUT They Remain in wushowhide. Only Installed Updates remain. I uninstalled this app once and just did it a 2nd time.
The Re-Start apparently Chk’d by Itself – Hide the Settings WU Page – which caused me grief prior being unaware of this Setting, so now I have to re-install it to hopefully see Settings Update again.
Add this to your experience manual……
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Start about 2/3 down the page at the indented paragraphs (ie) At this point, however, two remarks – I have been in exchange with David Xanatos for a long time.
Noted IT blogger Gunter Born delayed, But Now recommends WUMgr WITH a caveat: it addresses Malware potential — “Furthermore, the Win32 program file wumgr.exe suffers from the problem that a DLL hijacking is possible.” — in the app — with two ways to deal with it.
I’m so busy defining – What is dark matter – Can someone make sense of this article’s suggestions and advise in layman’s terms what to do?
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I dunno, it seems to me that if malware could do this sort of thing on your system, then your security was already compromised and you’d have bigger things to worry about than whether some malicious DLL might get copied onto the WUMgr folder.
If I were concerned about this happening but wished to keep using WUMgr, the first step I’d take would be to beef up my PC’s security. (You can find some ideas in the first link down in my signature line.) I might also think about the simpler of Born’s suggestions, copying the WUMgr files onto their own empty folder so that I could monitor what files go into it.
As for changing the permissions, that’s one of those topics where my eyes glaze over as soon as I read the phrase “write permissions,” 😉 so someone else may be better able to handle that part.
P.S. Everyone reading this might want to heed the note in Born’s post about Microsoft removing the download link for wushowhide.diagcab. Anybody who didn’t already have this little program will now have to get it from unofficial sources.
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P.S. Everyone reading this might want to heed the note in Born’s post about Microsoft removing the download link for wushowhide.diagcab. Anybody who didn’t already have this little program will now have to get it from unofficial sources.
FYI, Microsoft re-signed the file with a SHA-2 cert. The tool itself is unchanged. For more details, reference Susan Bradley’s post last month: https://www.askwoody.com/2021/wushowhide-is-back/
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Win 7 Pro 64-bit, Office 2010.
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The two recommendations are simple enough for anyone to manage.
- Open Explorer and navigate to the folder that contains wumgr.exe.
Make sure there are no other files in that folder apart from translation.ini and wumgr.ini.
Run (double click) wumgr.exe. - Make sure WuMgr is in a folder of its own – no other programs.
In Explorer, right click on the folder containing WuMgr.
Select Properties > Security.
Click Edit.
Select Authenticated Users.
Scroll through the permissions until you get to Write.
Tick the Deny box.
Select OK and Yes.
Close the Properties dialog.
Item 2 will prevent anyone writing to the folder containing WuMgr. To undo this setting, remove the Deny Write permission.
cheers, Paul
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- Open Explorer and navigate to the folder that contains wumgr.exe.
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The Tools folder is not a file, but I should have mentioned it.
cheers, Paul
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quiscit: Here’s a write-up I put together for myself just as a cheat sheet on what to do each month when updating my Win10 systems with WUMgr.
Using-WUMgr-to-Update-a-Windows-10-System
I can’t guarantee how well this will work on your systems; but on my Win10 systems where I’ve been following this procedure consistently for the past year now, I can report that there hasn’t been a single update installed that I haven’t explicitly selected via WUMgr. So, at least for me, this procedure has been fully effective at stopping unwanted updates.
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I haven’t been carefully tracking the accuracy of the Windows Update History. The main reason I use WUMgr is to stop Microsoft from pushing unwanted updates onto my systems. And, at least in that regard, WUMgr has been working flawlessly. If there are any inaccuracies or omissions in the History list, I can live with that.
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Controlling the “what” and “when” of Windows updates is the same reason for which I useWuMgr. That said, the program does display its own update history, and I can’t remember the last time I looked at the “official” list on the systems where I use this nifty application.
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I’ve only ever used this in addition to Windows Update and only in manual mode. I’ve not seen a write up on using it to replace WU.
FWIW, I fire WUmgr up when required, hide / install whatever I want, close WUmgr.
cheers, Paul
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I wonder if that’s the update, not WuMgr. I have some failed update notifications in the log, but updates are now installed and WU says I’m up to date.
The only update I installed this month is KB5003173.cheers, Paul
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To me the whole purpose of using this was in the Auto Update tab and clicking on “disable automatic update”
If you don’t do that, you still get automatic updates.
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I agree. Since starting to use WUMgr, I haven’t gone into the Windows Updates portion of the newfangled Settings app at all. I don’t deal with “paused” vs. “deferred” (or whatever) updates, I simply use WUMgr which operates a lot like the Updates applet did in Vista and 7.
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In addition to selecting “Disable Automatic Update“, I also make sure that I select the option to “Disable Update Facilitators“. I’m not sure if it’s absolutely necessary to add that option; but I do it just to be doubly sure.
A while ago (back in mid-2019) I had a system configured without that option; and it appeared that the system did get an update somehow in spite of WUMgr having Automatic Update disabled. I don’t have the details anymore, and admittedly it was quite a while ago; so I don’t really know what happened anymore in that particular case. However, for the past couple years now, I’ve consistently included the option to “Disable Update Facilitators” on all my Win 10 systems; and since doing that I’ve never seen a single update get thru without me explicitly selecting it. Just FYI.
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Although I don’t use WUMgr, it sounds like the setting of “Disable Update Facilitators” makes WUMgr automatically hide KB4023057 when it appears each time, so you don’t have to worry about hiding it every two or three months when a new edition seems to show up!
Just sayin’!
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From what I can tell, once you select “Disable Automatic Update“, it will do exactly that — no updates get done automatically. At least, that’s what I’ve seen on my systems. It’s not a big deal for me though. On the systems that regularly connect to the Internet for normal everyday browsing and email, I have third-party antivirus to protect against malware. And that third-party software continues to get automatically updated, regardless of WUMgr. So I don’t rely solely on Windows Defender on those systems.
On one system that’s running dedicated applications (with limited Internet access, rather than for general web browsing) I still do rely on Windows Defender without the third-party antivirus. But on that system I just manually do a check for definition updates around once a week — for Defender only. I can do that without touching or making changes to WUMgr. And, of course, once a month I do a full Check for Updates with WUMgr on all my systems, which updates everything I select, including Defender.
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krism: In WUMgr, you can select “Automatic Update (default)“, which won’t take effect until after a reboot. But you can also keep or select the option in WUMgr to “Block Access to WU Servers“. If Windows Update can’t get to the WU Servers, then there should be no way for WU to search for or download any updates.
And if you’ve unselected the option to “Hide WU Settings Page“, you can also feel free to go and pause or un-pause updates as well. Without access to the WU Servers, no updates should be available to Windows Update. At least that’s what my experience has been.
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I have a nasty feeling that you must unpause everything in WU before turning on Disable Automatic Updates.
BUT, I do not know.
Another way to get around this might be to disconnect your PC completely from the Internet (meaning: no Ethernet and no Wi-Fi), then unpause the updates in Settings, and then finally disable automatic updates in WUMgr as @Tom-R recommends. Then you could reconnect to the Internet.
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Cybertooth,
That would have worked as well for me. I took a bit of a different approach because I had not thought of this.
Thanks,
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Thanks for the replies and info Tom-R and krism.
The only way I could convert to WuMgr from WU while updates were paused in WU was as follows:
1. In WuMgr I left Automatic Update (default) selected and also selected Block Access to WU Servers. This allowed me to leave Hide WU Settings Pane unselected.
2. I did a restart.
3. In Windows I went to the Update & Security > Windows Update settings and un-paused updates. I then did a check for updates to ensure nothing would get installed. I got an error, “Error Encountered We couldn’t connect to the update service.”. So all good there.
4. I then went into WuMgr and unselected Block Access to WU Servers. Now I have only Automatic Update (default) and Include Drivers selected on the Auto Update tab.
With these settings I had WuMgr look for updates and it found the July Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 21H1 and also an update for the Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool. I was able to hide these for now and can install them later.
Hope this helps anyone else that might be as confused as I was about how to get WuMgr working when WU had updates paused.
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After thinking about it I went back in and selected Block Access to WU Servers just to ensure no updates would get unintentionally installed. When I want to check for updates or install updates in WuMgr, I can deselect this option, do the check or install, and then reselect this option.
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I have updates paused in WU. I just installed WuMgr. When I use the double arrows button to search for updates, it doesn’t find any.
WUmgr use WU when checking for updates. If there is a pause/deferral WUmgr won’t find any just like WU won’t find any.
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FYI: There is some additional/partial info here about how WuMgr works if you want to pursue it. Unfortunately there is no other official documentation in one place. This is a trial and error learning app :-).
https://github.com/DavidXanatos/wumgr/issues
(see both tabs for Open and Closed Issues)
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