Guide to Using WuMgr for Windows 10 Updates

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WuMgr for Windows 10 Explanation

WuMgr is third-party software created by DavidXanatos and performs Windows Update Management. It is an alternate method for Windows update operations. This topic is a short explanation on how to use WuMgr (Update Manager for Windows) to either install Windows updates or hide them.

Part I will deal with downloading and executing WUMgr.

Part II will show how to install Windows updates.

Part III will show how to hide Windows updates.

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Part I Downloading and Executing WuMgr

WuMgr is located at this address:
https://github.com/DavidXanatos/wumgr

Select Release 1.1

Select WuMgr_v1.1b.zip

Save file:

Extract files:

I extracted files here:

The executable file is here. Click on it to run it.

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Part II Installing Updates from WuMgr

There are six selections for WuMgr from left to right they are:
Circle: Search
Down arrow: Download
Down arrow with box: Install
Trash: Uninstall
Eye: Hide
Chain: Links

Select the circle on the far left.

Check the update you wish to install.
Select the box with the down arrow.

The update will download and install.

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Part III Hiding Updates in WuMgr

When you hide an update in WuMgr, the update is prevented from installing.

Select the circle on the far left.

Check the update you wish to hide.
Select the eye with the line through it.

The update will be hidden.

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And if you want to UNhided and install?

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Things in Windows update have a way of resetting themselves and new updates are sometimes introduced without notice. Check often with WuMgr to avoid surprises.

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[WSaltamirano]

I have tried this application a few months ago and it “broke” my Windows update and

I had to recover from a back up.

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[Paul T]

How do you know it was WUmgr that broke WU? Maybe WU broke itself – I’ve had that happen.

WUmgr uses Windows Update to do the work and if you check in WU after using WUmgr you will see the same info.

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[DriftyDonN]

Appreciate this nfo. What of the settings at the bottom right corner? Options and Auto and Auto update? There appears to be some missing information here.

Also, I have used several settings within group policy and registry to control wu- will these have any impact on WuMgr? ie notice to download updates, exclude Drivers from quality updates and set automatic update options.

Also have blocked edge, Internet explorer,Cortana, some Telemetry (w10tel.cmd script written by–?), stopped indexing, stopped prefetch- more do not come to mind right now but will any of these be affected? Also set to stay on ver 1909 in group policy editor. Sorry about the haphazard presentation – I’ve been stopping and blocking since first Win 10 I saw- 17xx I think? Maybe 1803? I suspect I may want to do a clean install before too long! I actually use more utils than actual product producing proggies- Use open office for spread sheet and word proc, quicken, email client,firefox, VLC. So as you can see no big production stuff. I only add this stuff in case WuMgr may have an impact on these.

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Thanks!

 

 

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For Auto Update, I use the default settings as shown here:

 

For Options, I also use the default settings.

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[DriftyDonN]

Thanks! Won’t allowing automatic update essentially allow wu to have it’s way? And allow drivers? Hmm. I do have (=2 notify ,don’t download) Sorry I neglected to mention that.

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[geekdom]

As further information, I have a plain-vanilla system and use O&O ShutUp10 to inhibit unwanted Windows options.

I use WuMgr to see what updates are available, including drivers, and hide them if I don’t want them. I can’t say that WuMgr won’t affect your system applications because I don’t have your system configuration. What I can say is that on my systems, WuMgr works well for managing Windows updates and does not affect other system operations.

In short, WuMgr has worked well on my three systems and without error to other software.

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[Cybertooth]

WUMgr has worked well on my two Windows 10 systems, too. One time, I noticed that no patches had been offered for months on one of those machines, and it turned out that I’d clicked on the box to Block Access to WU Servers. Then I knew that WUMgr works as advertised.

I do select the Disable Automatic Update button instead of leaving the default selection. That way, no patches (presumably) will come in the door without my express approval. If I understand correctly how WUMgr works, the default setting is analogous to the “Install updates automatically” setting in the pre-Windows 10 update settings applet, while the Disable Automatic Update setting is like the setting to “Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them” in the old applet.

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[EP]

I too use WuMgr on many Win10 machines and it works well.
Disable Automatic Update option, and completely UNcheck “Include drivers” option AND using “metered” internet connections and NO updates get automatically installed onto those Win10 PCs.

are you using metered internet connections, Cybertooth?

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@EP, I don’t use Metered Connections. All the patching-related settings I use are through WUMgr. So far, they’ve been working well.

 

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[Alex5723]

DriftyDonN wrote:

Also, I have used several settings within group policy and registry to control wu- will these have any impact on WuMgr?

WUmgr runs Windows Update and won’t show updates not shown by Windows Update due to block/deferrals.

To show all pending updates you need to set in GP ‘notify don’t install = 2’ and leave quality and feature updates = 0.

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Alex5723 wrote:

To show all pending updates you need to set in GP ‘notify don’t install = 2’ and leave quality and feature updates = 0.

and do you also have the radio button for Automatic Update turned on, if you have GP=2 notify download/install? Or is it turned off?

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WCHS wrote:

and do you also have the radio button for Automatic Update turned on, if you have GP=2 notify download/install? Or is it turned off?

It is off by default.

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Alex5723 wrote:

It is off by default.

in other words, the Automatic Update radio button is filled in? Which to me means that is on by default.

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[Tom-R]

I’d be interested in knowing what specifically these three WuMgr options do:

• Block Access to WU Servers
• Disable Update Facilitators
• Disable Store Auto Update

And (just as important) how does WuMgr tweak the system in order to accomplish these three things?  For example what system services, processes and/or tasks are being disabled or blocked when these options are selected?  I’m especially curious about the option to “Disable Update Facilitators“; since that seems to be the key to stopping Windows Update from pushing unwanted updates, or from changing system settings without warning.

Is there any detailed documentation on what these WuMgr options do, and how they work?

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[Paul T]

Read the source files (code) on the WUmgr site and all will be revealed.

If you can’t read the code (don’t understand it) you will have to search for others who have.

cheers, Paul

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[Tom-R]

I didn’t really want to wade thru the WuMgr source code.  What I’m hoping exists somewhere is an end user-friendly document with just a summary of what services, processes, tasks, etc. are getting blocked or disabled.  I like the program; but it would be really nice to know conceptually what it’s doing — just a sentence or two that explains what each option does.

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[Cybertooth]

I can’t speak for how WUMgr does any of these things, but I can tell you from experience that “Block Access to WU Servers” will prevent Windows not only from downloading each month’s patches, but even from displaying them in the WUMgr GUI. The setting to “Disable Store Auto Update” prevents apps from the Windows Store from updating themselves without your knowledge/approval.

Unfortunately, I can’t offer much help regarding the setting you were most curious about, “Disable Update Facilitators”. I would speculate that this has to do with auxiliary Windows services and/or tasks that participate in the process of finding, fetching, and installing patches, but that’s about as far as I can take it.

Maybe somebody else can pitch in with more specific info.

 

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Tom-R wrote:

an end user-friendly document with just a summary of what services, processes, tasks, etc. are getting blocked or disabled.

There is no such document.

You can however write to the developer with your questions.

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Alex5723 wrote:

There is no such document.

This sad fact is what explains the existence of the present thread, as well as several other attempts here at Woody’s to describe the workings of WUMgr.

David Xanatos has done a great job of creating his program, but some of the functions exposed in the GUI are far from self-explanatory. Imagine making an airplane and then providing no training/instruction manual for flying it: just try all the buttons and knobs to see what they do!  🙂

 

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Cybertooth wrote:

Imagine making an airplane and then providing no training/instruction manual for flying it:

yeah … great … wasn’t there a problem with the Boeing 737 Max for exactly this same reason … I am not willing to just press buttons to see what happens!!

I have no complaints with the programming, whatsoever. I’d just like to know what the check boxes and icons do or do not do. As for the icons, most of them have been explained here … still wondering about the ‘link’ icon, though. And many of us have questions about some of the check boxes and don’t want to fly in the dark.

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[Paul T]

Your PC is not likely to fall out of the sky, and you have a backup, so go for it!

cheers, Paul

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[Cybertooth]

Just trying buttons is still an extremely crude approach. The point is that it would be much more preferable to have a manual to review before and as the user starts to fiddle with the application–hence this thread and others on this website.

I found a discussion of WUMgr that may help our understanding of some of the more obscure functions of the program.

 

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Cybertooth wrote:

I found a discussion of WUMgr that may help our understanding of some of the more obscure functions of the program.

I’ve read this discussion. It’s very helpful.

a) Under the Auto Update tab, I wonder what the difference is between Disable Automatic Updates and not turning on the radio button for Automatic Update ?

b) Under the Options tab, I wonder if “Manual” download/install is the same as GP=2 notify download/install. In the discussion, Tittel says that it forces the user to authorize download/install. Sounds like GP=2.

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Link command:

Select the circle on the far left.

Check the update where you wish to see the link.
Select the box with the chain.

This notice will appear at the bottom of WuMgr.
Update Download Links copyed to clipboard

Open Notepad and do a paste:

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Cybertooth wrote:

Imagine making an airplane and then providing no training/instruction manual for flying it:

Boeing 737 ?

I don’t know of any 3rd party Windows app that has full documentation of changes made to Windows OS services, registry,… with one exception : Black Viper.

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Alex5723 wrote:

Boeing 737 ?

Boeing 737 MAX

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WCHS wrote:

a) Under the Auto Update tab, I wonder what the difference is between Disable Automatic Updates and not turning on the radio button for Automatic Update ?

There is no choice to be made there, really. You can’t both disable the button for automatic updates and not turn on the button for automatic updates: if one is not selected, then the other one will be.

WCHS wrote:

b) Under the Options tab, I wonder if “Manual” download/install is the same as GP=2 notify download/install. In the discussion, Tittel says that it forces the user to authorize download/install. Sounds like GP=2.

Since I only use WUMgr, I no longer remember what the Win10 or GP update settings do. What I can say is that manual download/install works the same way as in Win7. (I suppose that if MS ever breaks WUMgr and it doesn’t get fixed, I’ll have to refresh my memory of the official update settings or, more likely, just switch to Linux full-time.) Somebody else in this thread should be able to give you a specific answer, though.

 

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exceptional for you to do this. it really helps. wish I could open it!!

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[Kathy70]

This is all really useful. Very clear. Thanks so much!

So… on my Windows 10 Home, out of the box machine. Moving onwards with set up. 20H2 installation successful.

1:  Wushowhide … understand how it works. Have to be quick! Among the updates I allowed were…  KB4601319 and KB4023057. All went as usual for download/installation/restarting etc.

2:  WuMgr ….. now trying this. In Update History, it shows the 2 updates above as: In progress 0x802420214. The others show as Succeeded.

3  BUT looking at Control Panel, installed updates:
KB4601319 shows as installed.    KB4023057 is not there at all.

I am confused.
Many thanks in advance for enlightenment.

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[PKCano]

KB4023057 will install in Control Panel\Programs & Features or in Settings App\Apps.

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[dmt_3904]

I have hidden KB4023057 many times, following PKs instructions.  Today, it shows hidden when I run  wushowhide.  However, upon reboot (with metered connection on),  WU shows KB4023057 in the Q (along with Defender, I am not ready to do March updates yet, as per Susan’s recommendation).

I can still see KB4023057 in the ‘hidden’ list.  I unhid it and re-ran wushowhide, as per instructions to hide it.  It shows hidden, but is still in the update Q.

Should I install it and then immediately remove it from control panel? I have GPEDIT settings as per the instructions from this forum to prevent updates from automatically installing, I could check the settings.  Or any ideas on how I can fix this?  thanks.

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… as Microsoft Update Health Tools in both places.

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PKCano wrote:

KB4023057 will install in Control Panel\Programs & Features or in Settings App\Apps.

Is there a difference in displaying updates Pro vs Home ?

KB4023057 is under View update history – quality updates on my Windows 10 Pro.

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b wrote:

KB4023057 will install

It may show under WU History, but it is not listed in WU installed updates.
It installs as a program.

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[Kathy70]

That makes sense. I’ve learned yet another new thing or two.

So … is it OK to delete the 2 ‘in progress’ items in WuMgr?

I would assume so, but this is the first time I’ve used it.

Thanks so much!

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[Paul T]

Leave the WuMgr items, they will be tidied up next time you run it.

cheers, Paul

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dmt_3904 wrote:

Today, it shows hidden when I run  wushowhide.  However, upon reboot (with metered connection on),  WU shows KB4023057 in the Q

Use WUmgr, WUmt, WAU Manager..

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[Tom-R]

Use WUmgr, WUmt, WAU Manager..

I wholeheartedly agree.  I never fully trusted wushowhide anyway; since I always felt that Microsoft could render it useless at any time without warning.  Of the three alternate solutions, the one that has consistently worked for me has been WUMgr.  Over the past 18 months now, it has never once allowed an unwanted update to get thru to any of my Win10 systems.  (The others may be fine also; but I haven’t used them as much as WUMgr.)

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WUmgr, WUmt, WAU Manager

ok thanks for the info. I am not familiar with this software.  Is it trustworthy?  Where does one get it?  I will check it out.  Donna

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OH!  I just posted my response and then clicked on “Windows Update”  Now the items I want hidden are hidden!!! Maybe it just took a little more time for it to update?  Anyway – seems there’s some consensus here that wushowhide is not good and the other software is better.  I have to admit, I started using wushowhide when PK referenced it in his instructions on how to clear the Update Q- so I’d been using it since then, following those instructions.

https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/2000013-how-to-clear-the-windows-update-queue-in-win10/

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There is nothing wrong with wushowhide, although one of the posters keeps repeating that is is no good. That is simply WRONG. I use it exclusively b/c I use what MS offers most of the time instead of third-tarty blockers and fix-its. And Microsoft has NOT discounted and abandoned it in spite of what that poster says.

Windows Update is static. When it does it’s routing scan, it cashes the list of updates until the next time it scans. That static cache is what you see in the Windows Update queue.

wushowhide is dynamic. It does its own scan with the same Service as WU, but its listing is current. When you HIDE something, you have to wait till WU rescans on its own before it updates the cache/list of updates in the queue.

See  AKB2000013 How to clear the Update queue for a more thorough explanation.

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These patches/updates have been in my wushowhide que for months- every patch tues I add the newest ones. I then try to update when given the go ahead by aw but they dont install I use the manual method from the catalog using the list from the master patch list. WU checks every day and yet these are still hidden not installed.

optional cumulative update preview (KB5000842) is in wu que, has been there for sometime now checked this a.m. as usual. Dont know why I am getting offered preview as I havent been getting them…

win10 pro version 2004 (OS Bld 19041.870)

how do i get rid of these?

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[CraigS26]

For fun I just instd WUMgr and In the Auto Update TAB the — Automatic Update (default) — is NOT Chk’d. We have users doing BOTH treatments, so I wonder HOW it matters.

AND, both my WU History App and WUMgr show Jan-Feb-Mar CU’s as — IN PROGRESS — Vs Succeeded –. Is THAT unique to 20H2 and the Enablement Pkg approach?

 

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CraigS26 wrote:

AND, both my WU History App and WUMgr show Jan-Feb-Mar CU’s as — IN PROGRESS — Vs Succeeded –. Is THAT unique to 20H2 and the Enablement Pkg approach?

Edit gone B4 I could say Settings / Quality Updates History Does Show – Installed — , BUT just found a column for — In Progress — with ( 0x80242014) Code for ea CU. That Code talks of Updates needing a Re-Start but there have been many since any/all of them. Confused as to Which Update Completion Rating is correct: Installed or In Progress.

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Sorry, BUT, at Install in the Auto Update Tab neither Disable Auto Update NOR Automatic Update (default) were checked. Knowing a Change required Re-Start I played around and checked Disable Automatic Update; Then I Clk’d Auto Update (default) and the dark circle moved BUT I could Not erase the Selection. Thinking a Close and Re-open with No Re-start would erase the last selection I found it does Not. A Re-Start Erased my Installed Updates and Hidden Updates — BUT They Remain in wushowhide. Only Installed Updates remain. I uninstalled this app once and just did it a 2nd time.

The Re-Start apparently Chk’d by Itself – Hide the Settings WU Page – which caused me grief prior being unaware of this Setting, so now I have to re-install it to hopefully see Settings Update again.

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[Alex5723]

CraigS26 wrote:

For fun I just instd WUMgr

WUmgr, WUmt, WAU, wushowhide are all portable. No installation is done.

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[dmt_3904]

I just want to confirm that wushowhide is working, for me.  When I posted earlier, I had not waited the appropriate amount of time for WU to catch up to the request to hide items.  When it updates, it does not show the hidden items in the Q.  I have used wushowhide twice since posting and it has worked flawlessly both times.

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[Tom-R]

… I had not waited the appropriate amount of time for WU to catch up to the request to hide items.

That right there is the main problem with wushowhide.  It shouldn’t be necessary to wait an “appropriate amount of time” for changes to take effect.  When you hide any updates, they should be hidden immediately — or at the very least, as soon as the system is restarted.  That’s one of the reasons I’ve lost confidence in using wushowhide.

Yes, WUMgr is a third-party utility; but it’s much more straightforward and responsive to use.  And, at least for me, it’s worked flawlessly for more than a year now.

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Yeah, it would be nice/more user-friendly if the updates were immediate and probably should be that way.  But, it works for me, so I’ll keep using it.  Good to know there’s other software out there that can be used, if needed.

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