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      • #2317601
        geekdom
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        WuMgr for Windows 10 Explanation

        WuMgr is third-party software created by DavidXanatos and performs Windows Update Management. It is an alternate method for Windows update operations. This topic is a short explanation on how to use WuMgr (Update Manager for Windows) to either install Windows updates or hide them.

        Part I will deal with downloading and executing WUMgr.

        Part II will show how to install Windows updates.

        Part III will show how to hide Windows updates.

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      • #2317602
        geekdom
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        Part I Downloading and Executing WuMgr

        WuMgr is located at this address:
        https://github.com/DavidXanatos/wumgr

        Select Release 1.1
        wum07b

        Select WuMgr_v1.1b.zip
        wum08b

        Save file:
        wum09b

        Extract files:
        wum10b

        I extracted files here:
        wum11b

        The executable file is here. Click on it to run it.
        wum12b

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      • #2317609
        geekdom
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        Part II Installing Updates from WuMgr

        There are six selections for WuMgr from left to right they are:
        Circle: Search
        Down arrow: Download
        Down arrow with box: Install
        Trash: Uninstall
        Eye: Hide
        Chain: Links

        wum00

        Select the circle on the far left.
        wum01-2

        Check the update you wish to install.
        Select the box with the down arrow.
        wum02-2

        The update will download and install.
        wum03-2

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      • #2317615
        geekdom
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        Part III Hiding Updates in WuMgr

        When you hide an update in WuMgr, the update is prevented from installing.

        Select the circle on the far left.
        wum04-1

        Check the update you wish to hide.
        Select the eye with the line through it.
        wum05-1

        The update will be hidden.
        wum06-1

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        • #2318576
          WCHS
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          And if you want to UNhided and install?

      • #2317620
        geekdom
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        Things in Windows update have a way of resetting themselves and new updates are sometimes introduced without notice. Check often with WuMgr to avoid surprises.

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      • #2317635
        WSaltamirano
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        I have tried this application a few months ago and it “broke” my Windows update and

        I had to recover from a back up.

        • #2317743
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          How do you know it was WUmgr that broke WU? Maybe WU broke itself – I’ve had that happen.

          WUmgr uses Windows Update to do the work and if you check in WU after using WUmgr you will see the same info.

          cheers, Paul

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      • #2317675
        DriftyDonN
        AskWoody Plus

        Appreciate this nfo. What of the settings at the bottom right corner? Options and Auto and Auto update? There appears to be some missing information here.

        Also, I have used several settings within group policy and registry to control wu- will these have any impact on WuMgr? ie notice to download updates, exclude Drivers from quality updates and set automatic update options.

        Also have blocked edge, Internet explorer,Cortana, some Telemetry (w10tel.cmd script written by–?), stopped indexing, stopped prefetch- more do not come to mind right now but will any of these be affected? Also set to stay on ver 1909 in group policy editor. Sorry about the haphazard presentation – I’ve been stopping and blocking since first Win 10 I saw- 17xx I think? Maybe 1803? I suspect I may want to do a clean install before too long! I actually use more utils than actual product producing proggies- Use open office for spread sheet and word proc, quicken, email client,firefox, VLC. So as you can see no big production stuff. I only add this stuff in case WuMgr may have an impact on these.

        version 1909 (OS Bld 18363.1198)

        Thanks!

         

         

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        • #2317791
          geekdom
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          For Auto Update, I use the default settings as shown here:
          wum13

           

          For Options, I also use the default settings.

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          • #2317952
            DriftyDonN
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            Thanks! Won’t allowing automatic update essentially allow wu to have it’s way? And allow drivers? Hmm. I do have (=2 notify ,don’t download) Sorry I neglected to mention that.

      • #2317802
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        As further information, I have a plain-vanilla system and use O&O ShutUp10 to inhibit unwanted Windows options.

        I use WuMgr to see what updates are available, including drivers, and hide them if I don’t want them. I can’t say that WuMgr won’t affect your system applications because I don’t have your system configuration. What I can say is that on my systems, WuMgr works well for managing Windows updates and does not affect other system operations.

        In short, WuMgr has worked well on my three systems and without error to other software.

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        • #2317831
          Cybertooth
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          WUMgr has worked well on my two Windows 10 systems, too. One time, I noticed that no patches had been offered for months on one of those machines, and it turned out that I’d clicked on the box to Block Access to WU Servers. Then I knew that WUMgr works as advertised.

          I do select the Disable Automatic Update button instead of leaving the default selection. That way, no patches (presumably) will come in the door without my express approval. If I understand correctly how WUMgr works, the default setting is analogous to the “Install updates automatically” setting in the pre-Windows 10 update settings applet, while the Disable Automatic Update setting is like the setting to “Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them” in the old applet.

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      • #2317887
        Alex5723
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        Also, I have used several settings within group policy and registry to control wu- will these have any impact on WuMgr?

        WUmgr runs Windows Update and won’t show updates not shown by Windows Update due to block/deferrals.

        To show all pending updates you need to set in GP ‘notify don’t install = 2’ and leave quality and feature updates = 0.

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        • #2318394
          WCHS
          AskWoody Plus

          To show all pending updates you need to set in GP ‘notify don’t install = 2’ and leave quality and feature updates = 0.

          and do you also have the radio button for Automatic Update turned on, if you have GP=2 notify download/install? Or is it turned off?

          • #2318419
            Alex5723
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            and do you also have the radio button for Automatic Update turned on, if you have GP=2 notify download/install? Or is it turned off?

            It is off by default.

            • #2318438
              WCHS
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              It is off by default.

              in other words, the Automatic Update radio button is filled in? Which to me means that is on by default.

              WUMgr-Automatic-Update-radio-button

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      • #2318404
        Tom-R
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        I’d be interested in knowing what specifically these three WuMgr options do:

        • Block Access to WU Servers
        • Disable Update Facilitators
        • Disable Store Auto Update

        And (just as important) how does WuMgr tweak the system in order to accomplish these three things?  For example what system services, processes and/or tasks are being disabled or blocked when these options are selected?  I’m especially curious about the option to “Disable Update Facilitators“; since that seems to be the key to stopping Windows Update from pushing unwanted updates, or from changing system settings without warning.

        Is there any detailed documentation on what these WuMgr options do, and how they work?

        • #2318409
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          Read the source files (code) on the WUmgr site and all will be revealed.

          If you can’t read the code (don’t understand it) you will have to search for others who have.

          cheers, Paul

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          • #2318411
            Tom-R
            AskWoody Lounger

            I didn’t really want to wade thru the WuMgr source code.  What I’m hoping exists somewhere is an end user-friendly document with just a summary of what services, processes, tasks, etc. are getting blocked or disabled.  I like the program; but it would be really nice to know conceptually what it’s doing — just a sentence or two that explains what each option does.

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        • #2318476
          Cybertooth
          AskWoody Plus

          I can’t speak for how WUMgr does any of these things, but I can tell you from experience that “Block Access to WU Servers” will prevent Windows not only from downloading each month’s patches, but even from displaying them in the WUMgr GUI. The setting to “Disable Store Auto Update” prevents apps from the Windows Store from updating themselves without your knowledge/approval.

          Unfortunately, I can’t offer much help regarding the setting you were most curious about, “Disable Update Facilitators”. I would speculate that this has to do with auxiliary Windows services and/or tasks that participate in the process of finding, fetching, and installing patches, but that’s about as far as I can take it.

          Maybe somebody else can pitch in with more specific info.

           

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      • #2318420
        Alex5723
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        an end user-friendly document with just a summary of what services, processes, tasks, etc. are getting blocked or disabled.

        There is no such document.

        You can however write to the developer with your questions.

      • #2318468
        Cybertooth
        AskWoody Plus

        There is no such document.

        This sad fact is what explains the existence of the present thread, as well as several other attempts here at Woody’s to describe the workings of WUMgr.

        David Xanatos has done a great job of creating his program, but some of the functions exposed in the GUI are far from self-explanatory. Imagine making an airplane and then providing no training/instruction manual for flying it: just try all the buttons and knobs to see what they do!  🙂

         

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        • #2318489
          WCHS
          AskWoody Plus

          Imagine making an airplane and then providing no training/instruction manual for flying it:

          yeah … great … wasn’t there a problem with the Boeing 737 Max for exactly this same reason … I am not willing to just press buttons to see what happens!!

          I have no complaints with the programming, whatsoever. I’d just like to know what the check boxes and icons do or do not do. As for the icons, most of them have been explained here … still wondering about the ‘link’ icon, though. And many of us have questions about some of the check boxes and don’t want to fly in the dark.

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          • #2318492
            Paul T
            AskWoody MVP

            Your PC is not likely to fall out of the sky, and you have a backup, so go for it!

            cheers, Paul

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            • #2318498
              Cybertooth
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              Just trying buttons is still an extremely crude approach. The point is that it would be much more preferable to have a manual to review before and as the user starts to fiddle with the application–hence this thread and others on this website.

              I found a discussion of WUMgr that may help our understanding of some of the more obscure functions of the program.

               

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              • #2318573
                WCHS
                AskWoody Plus

                I found a discussion of WUMgr that may help our understanding of some of the more obscure functions of the program.

                I’ve read this discussion. It’s very helpful.

                a) Under the Auto Update tab, I wonder what the difference is between Disable Automatic Updates and not turning on the radio button for Automatic Update ?

                b) Under the Options tab, I wonder if “Manual” download/install is the same as GP=2 notify download/install. In the discussion, Tittel says that it forces the user to authorize download/install. Sounds like GP=2.

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      • #2318504
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        Link command:

        Select the circle on the far left.
        wum14

        Check the update where you wish to see the link.
        Select the box with the chain.

        This notice will appear at the bottom of WuMgr.
        Update Download Links copyed to clipboard

        Open Notepad and do a paste:
        wum15

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      • #2318511
        Alex5723
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        Imagine making an airplane and then providing no training/instruction manual for flying it:

        Boeing 737 ?

        I don’t know of any 3rd party Windows app that has full documentation of changes made to Windows OS services, registry,… with one exception : Black Viper.

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      • #2318614
        Cybertooth
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        a) Under the Auto Update tab, I wonder what the difference is between Disable Automatic Updates and not turning on the radio button for Automatic Update ?

        There is no choice to be made there, really. You can’t both disable the button for automatic updates and not turn on the button for automatic updates: if one is not selected, then the other one will be.

        b) Under the Options tab, I wonder if “Manual” download/install is the same as GP=2 notify download/install. In the discussion, Tittel says that it forces the user to authorize download/install. Sounds like GP=2.

        Since I only use WUMgr, I no longer remember what the Win10 or GP update settings do. What I can say is that manual download/install works the same way as in Win7. (I suppose that if MS ever breaks WUMgr and it doesn’t get fixed, I’ll have to refresh my memory of the official update settings or, more likely, just switch to Linux full-time.) Somebody else in this thread should be able to give you a specific answer, though.

         

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