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    This topic contains 26 replies, has 10 voices, and was last updated by  PKCano 2 hours, 13 minutes ago.

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    • #2011000 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Yes, you can choose which version you want to run — 1809, 1903, or 1909. There are direct methods from moving from 1803 to 1809, 1903 or 1909. And th
      [See the full post at: Here’s how to control the upgrade from Win10 version 1803 or 1809]

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    • #2011065 Reply

      sheldon
      AskWoody Plus

      Woody said: “If you’re running Win10 1803 or 1809 and want to move to version 1903, choose Semi-Annual Channel and 180 days feature update deferral. You’ll end up with a version of Win10 Pro that has a “Download and install now” offer to upgrade to 1909.”

      I think he meant: “You’ll end up with a version of Win10 Pro that has a “Download and install now” offer to upgrade to 1903.”

      • #2011092 Reply

        b
        AskWoody Plus

        Also, “Note that I strongly recommend Win10 version 1809 Home folks upgrade to 1903, skipping 1809, specifically so you have access to the new Pause Update feature.”; that recommendation should be for 1803 Home folks.

        Windows 10 Version 1909 (Group ASAP)

        • #2011096 Reply

          PKCano
          Da Boss

          I think Woody is recommending 1903 for both 1803 and 1809 Home to get the ability to pause updates.

          But we are still on DEFCON-2, so perhaps we should wait for DEFCON-3 or greater and the recommentations at that time?

          • #2011106 Reply

            b
            AskWoody Plus

            You can’t skip 1809 unless you’re on 1803.

            Woody says today, “… it’s time to think seriously about upgrading.”

            Does DEFCON apply to Feature Updates? The five levels are only defined in terms of patches, and 1803 is now two weeks beyond end of service.

            Windows 10 Version 1909 (Group ASAP)

            • #2011114 Reply

              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Waiting for Woody’s word on that.

          • #2011355 Reply

            woody
            Da Boss

            Sorry. I’ve been offline for a bit.

            Yes, the article is wrong, and I’m having it changed right now. I recommend that 1803 Home users skip 1809 and go straight to 1903 Home.

            Yes, the MS-DEFCON rating applies to all updates, but we’re in a special situation here. I’ll get the MS-DEFCON rating synced in the next week or so — the holidays in the US have thrown a monkey wrench into everything — but people aren’t at risk just yet.

            Those who are looking at upgrading over the holidays should go ahead and follow the instructions in the Computerworld article. The benefits of an 1803 Home to 1903 Home upgrade, right now, outweigh any known (or even unknown) bugs in 1903.

            Those who aren’t time-constrained should just sit back and relax.

            IMHO, of course.

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    • #2011088 Reply

      ChrisAVWood
      AskWoody Plus

      Do you have a preference yet Woody? Should it be 1903 or 1909 or stay on 1809 Prod if I can.

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      • #2011364 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        I’m currently on 1809 Pro on my production machines. I’m waiting until the dust settles next month to see if I’m comfortable enough with 1903.

        There has been an enormous amount of change in 1903, and major bugs have cropped up when they shouldn’t have. It still isn’t stable enough for my (admittedly retentive) tastes.

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    • #2011094 Reply

      b
      AskWoody Plus

      Fortunately, you have lots of options — and a surprising amount of control over your Win10 destiny.

      It’s funny how something so simple — controlling your upgraded version — has turned into something so horrendously complex.

      Sometimes you get what you wish for! 😄

      Windows 10 Version 1909 (Group ASAP)

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    • #2011095 Reply

      ChrisAVWood
      AskWoody Plus

      I meant 1809 Pro in my previous comment.

    • #2011208 Reply

      doriel
      AskWoody Lounger

      Wonder why woody recommends MCT/ISO namely for WX Home. For me its the best way to upgrade any system if want to be in full control of the process. On the other hand, set deferral and wait is elegant, plus you have your computer set up for the future. But only if updates wont mess with our deferral settings, of course.

      I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
      --- Thomas A. Edison

      • This reply was modified 1 week, 5 days ago by  doriel. Reason: oh grammar
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      • #2011370 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        For 1803 and 1809 Home, using an ISO (or the MCT, which is just a wrapper around the ISO) is the only reliable way to get to the version you want.

        Pro is a different story entirely.

    • #2011401 Reply

      Sproots
      AskWoody Plus

      I am about to build 3 new personal PC for Xmas gifts.

      In September I also built a new machine for my mother using a paid copy of Win10 Pro (OEM Disc).

      New PC did not have CD/DVD so I tried to use 1809 ISO from MS Media Creation links when it still said only 1809.

      But when I applied the Disc license code, and after final install and before any updates, I was already on 1903.

      Q. Does the License code mandate the version when it activates the ISO? I didn’t take the time to verify the disc version, I should have I guess.

      Q. Do we know if MS is already producing 1909 on USB and Disc retail/oem media?

      • #2011411 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        Q. Does the License code mandate the version when it activates the ISO? I didn’t take the time to verify the disc version, I should have I guess.

        If you only have a license key, and you are downloading the ISO from Microsoft, you are probably going to get the latest version, which is now 1909.

        If you are using media, the version will depend on when the media was created. The license key does not dictate which version of Win10. That is determined by the content of ISO/install media. Be sure you disconnect from the Internet during install so it doesn’t update/upgrade automatically.

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    • #2011410 Reply

      KP
      AskWoody Plus

      Reading about some of the 1809 Upgrade problems, I have not decided on 1809 or 1903.

      For sure I am going to apply the 1803 November patch before upgrading.

      • #2011412 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        I have one 1803 Pro that I am holding off updating until after Dec. Patch Tuesday just to see if I can still get 1809 through WU.

        The other three1803 that I upgraded to 1809 went without a hitch. And 1809 has been quite stable for a while.

    • #2011415 Reply

      ChrisAVWood
      AskWoody Plus

      Thanks for the 1903/1909 opinion Woody. Like you, I don’t want to have to spend a whole weekend fixing my laptop because of a failed upgrade.

      Its not a holiday here in Canada this weekend but I will install November 1809 soon and see what December 10th brings. I have the 1903 ISO that you suggested some time ago.

      Thanks again

    • #2014351 Reply

      Cee Arr
      AskWoody Plus

      As per Woody’s advice I have a USB ISO of Windows 10
      1903.  When the flag is lowered to update do I
      a) transfer the ISO file to the computer or
      b) run it from the USB

      Many thanks from an OF – be nice – an OF is an Old Fogey

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    • #2016575 Reply

      bsqrd
      AskWoody Plus

      Woody

      MSDEFCON 4: Time to get patched Issue 16.44.1 2019-12-05

      The last paragraph in your recent newsletter has a link to Computerworld connecting you to “All’s clear to install Microsoft November patches”. Under Update,Step 3 – For Windows 10 prior to version 1903 there is a link to “Running Win 10 version 1803 or 1809? You have options. Here’s how to control your upgrade.”

      In this article – How to upgrade Win 10 Pro

      Step 2 Set Feature Update deferral

      Paragraph “If you’re running Win 10 1803 or 1809 and want to move to version 1903, choose Semi Annual Channel and 180 days feature update deferral. You’ll end up with a version of Win 10 Pro that has a “Download and install now” offer to upgrade  to 1909.

      My question is – Do I understand correctly that if you set 180 days feature update deferral you will first get an update to version 1903 ( where I want to be for the time being) which in turn will offer me a “download and install to 1909 when I choose”

      Thank you

      Bryan Booth (bsqrd)

      Dell laptop  Inspiron 15-3567, 64 bit, 8.0 GB memory 1.0 TB HDD running Win 10 Pro (purchased upgrade from Home), version 1809 OS Build 17763.805
      Edit: HTML removal

      • #2016588 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        I did some research on this today. In Win10 Pro:
        If you want 1809 pick a deferral 150-230 days.
        If you want 1903 make the deferral 50-120 days.
        More on this may be available shortly.

    • #2016640 Reply

      bsqrd
      AskWoody Plus

      Thank you PKCano. Do you have an idea when more may be available – won’t MSDEFCON be going back to 2 shortly? I’d like to have a go at getting 1903 before then.

      As you may gather  I am a newbie and having difficulty finding my way. What does Edit  HTML removal mean at the end of my first entry?

      Is there anywhere in the Forum where you can learn how to communicate in this system?

      Woody gave me a link to put my query – how do I find my entry from scratch?

       

      • #2016647 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        The more to come – I just posted the article on the main blog.

        When you copy/paste from a Word document (or other formatted source), ann the HTML formatting is printed instead of doing the formatting if you use the “Visual” tab in the entry box’ If you use the “Text” tab, you can see the formatting, but it removes the HTML coding.

        There is a “Forums” button in the menubar at the top of the main page. The Forum structure is available there. It’s a tree like you find in File Explorer in Windows. A map to get around.

        Look for your entry in the “Recent Replies” or “Recent Topics” on the right (woodgrain). You can find your replies/topics by clicking your name link under your Avatar. In your Profile there is are links to all your replies/toipcs.

        • #2016742 Reply

          bsqrd
          AskWoody Plus

          PKCano-again thanks for the help. I note that the focus in your latest article is upgrading from 1803. Apologies for my inexperience and I am not into wushowhide yet.

          I have no understanding how the Microsoft upgrades key together. For my upgrade 1809 to 1903, will I still use 120 days deferral as shown under Testing? This coincides with your earlier recommendation to me.

          I will get around to following up your answers to other questions after I complete the upgrade.

          • #2016746 Reply

            PKCano
            Da Boss

            For my upgrade 1809 to 1903, will I still use 120 days deferral as shown under Testing?

            Yes, that should work. Actually anywhere between 75 and 120. I used wushowhide to determine the number of deferral days. But it does come in handy to hide updates that have problems or any updates when it is not convenient to install. It is from Microsoft, not a third-party.

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