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    Home Forums AskWoody support Windows Windows 10 Questions: Win10 How to handle BSOD by driver on auto update?

    This topic contains 9 replies, has 5 voices, and was last updated by  anonymous 5 days, 7 hours ago.

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    • #125214 Reply

      Jan K.
      AskWoody Lounger

      I would love to present a solution to my friend, when he’s back from holidays, so…

      He’s using Win 10 Home, everything’s installed and maintained through Microsoft’s autoupdate, and it’s been running without problems until latest updates. The BSOD error code says wi-fi gear…

      How can he roll back to previous good driver without Win 10 autoupdate just re-installing the new, flawed one?

      How would you handle this scenario?

    • #125268 Reply

      Kirsty
      AskWoody MVP

      This winsupersite.com article discusses how to set WinX for Never Install Driver Software from Windows Update. Hope it is still relevant 🙂

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    • #125288 Reply

      Jan K.
      AskWoody Lounger

      I’ve sent him the link and will report back.

      Last night I concluded he and I are dinosaurs with the old outdated mindsets, that we have hardware, we run an OS on and I kinda had decided, that he should update his router to a “win 10 one”, if he would continue the Microsoft way.

      And he should prepare to upgrade his pc as well in near future… it has more power than he needs, but the OS will probably one day report, the hardware is no longer compatible?

      Thanks for your excellent services to this site!

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    • #125982 Reply

      Jan K.
      AskWoody Lounger

      Based on re-reading the advices from our “Win 10 guru”, ch100 (thanks!), I’ve come to the conclusion, that it actually may be better for my friend in the long run to upgrade to a newer, “win10 compatible” router…

      Can’t believe it 😀 but it does make sense as my friend has been in group A from day one and hasn’t got the skills or interest to sort out what and when to update. So I’ll tell him to choose between the risk of blocking driver updates or upgrade eqipment.

      Thanks for listening!

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      • #125983 Reply

        Kirsty
        AskWoody MVP

        Thanks for reporting back @jan-k – hope that works out well for your friend 🙂

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      • #125984 Reply

        anonymous

        @ Jan K

        Common sense says that the 2017-released Win 10 Version 1703 is often not compatible with devices that are about 10 years old or older.
        … Similarly, 10 year old analog CRT TVs cannot be used to receive today’s digital TV broadcasts (unless an adapter is used) and 10 years old 2G feature or non-smartphones can no longer be used today in most technology-advanced countries.

        IOW, users intending to adopt today’s technology should not be using 10 years old devices, ie they should buy modern or new devices. 10 yo devices should stick with their 10 yo technology, eg millions of users are still running 2001-released Win XP computers today and they cannot be upgraded/updated to the 2013-released Win 8.1 or the 2015-released Win 10.

      • #125998 Reply

        ch100
        AskWoody MVP

        I am not a “guru” 🙂
        And I have never mentioned a router in our discussions here about Windows.
        A router is a network device.
        But I insist that the drivers and in particular those for Windows 10 should be installed primarily from Windows Update if they are offered. Certainly there may be buggy releases, but this applies to all Windows updates and are not more relevant to drivers than anything else.
        There are known attacks against drivers which have been documented and there are certain levels under which Microsoft pushes updates for drivers, pretty much like for any other updates.
        In summary, if not required for security or missing for a specific release, driver updates are not pushed as mandatory just for upgrading to the latest version. Otherwise, they are.

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        • #126010 Reply

          Jan K.
          AskWoody Lounger

          The “guru” twist was my idea 😀 and as I’ve said before, I do respect your knowledge and am thankful for your sharing with us.

          We may not agree on everything, but I think you’re right about a certain group of users should “surrender” to Microsoft’s new WaaS approach. Blocking things will probably cause more problems further down the road for them than not blocking…

          I’m aware you haven’t mentioned routers directly, but since my buddy’s problem is driver related anyway, I concluded non-blocking would be right for him. A new router doesn’t really cost much and will probably solve his current situation…

          He’s back home tomorrow and I’ll see him monday.

          Thanks again!

    • #126012 Reply

      joep
      AskWoody Lounger

      In the past using WU to update drivers was not a good idea. The drivers were always older and out of date. With Windows 10 Microsoft has embarked on an effort to get OEMs to supply updated drivers suitable for distribution via WU. Over some period of time Microsoft wants WU to be the place to get drivers. They also realize it will take quite a while to break the user habit of going to an OEM site for a driver update. We are in the middle of the transition now. I agree with ch100 if a driver is offered through WU the user should install it.

      • #126023 Reply

        anonymous

        Microsoft is terrible at guessing whether you have retail gear or custom OEM embedded gear. A generic video driver for a dual (high/low end) video driver in a laptop usually disables either the low power card or the high power card (breaking dynamic switching).

        On an AIO computer is may disable video output (I see that one enough). Revert to correct driver, get online, auto-install microsoft driver, loose video (again).

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