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      • #2267192 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        I have Windows update paused until June 11.  I have Windows 10 Home v1909.  If there are any patches on the way that are going to break my computer, I can’t stop them with Group Policy. (I think that is what you call it.)

        So, I downloaded wushowhide.diagcab a couple months ago but every time I run it all that ever shows up are Defender updates.

        I blocked updates before I ran wushowhide.  I think that was wrong; I really did not know how to use it.

        So is there anyway to hide what I don’t want or will I have to wait until next month?

        Also next month, how do I use this tool?  How do I run wushowhide before pausing and the patches not download and install?

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
        Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
        Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
        -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

      • #2267203 Reply
        Kirsty
        Da Boss

        Check out the detailed use of wushowhide in this ComputerWorld article.

      • #2267266 Reply
        Berserker79
        AskWoody Lounger

        The ComputerWorld article linked in the previous post probably already answered your questions, anyway I suspect that you do not see any patches in wushowhide because you have set Windows Update to pause updates until June 11. I can’t test this at my end, since I’m still running 1809 which does not have the “pause updates” feature.

        Assuming this is the reason why you don’t see any patches in wushowhide right now, on June 11 when the pause is over you should immediately run wushowhide and see what patches (if any) your system is offered, mark for hiding all the patches you don’t need and let wushowhide do its work (it can take a long time, especially if hiding multiple patches). Be careful not to let too much time pass between the end of the pause and when you run wushowhide or there is the risk that Windows Update might start to download some update automatically.

        I generally run wushowhide as a first thing the day new patches are released and hide all the ones I don’t want to get installed until Woody here reports it’s safe to install.

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      • #2267406 Reply
        Bundaburra
        AskWoody Plus

        In wushowhide there is an “advanced” tab where “Apply repairs automatically” is selected by default.  I don’t know what this does or might do, so I always deselect it before continuing.  The window title says “Troubleshoot and help prevent computer problems”, which seems to imply that wushowhide can do more than just show or hide updates.

        Windows 10 Pro 64 bit 2004

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        • #2267417 Reply
          Kirsty
          Da Boss

          As Woody wrote in the article linked above:

          Step 2c. This step is important, and not at all obvious: Click the link marked Advanced. Then uncheck the box marked “Apply repairs automatically.”

          If you don’t untick the checkbox, you do not gain the control of which updates get hidden or shown!

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      • #2267494 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks for all the replies.  I have read the article.  Too much information.  My brain is mush.  Still working on understanding all the steps.

        I use ethernet connection but I have wifi and can turn it on which apparently is required.  And I can set it to metered; maybe this is what prevents Windows 10 from immediately downloading and installing updates so I have time to use wushowhide.  Not sure.

        I have home edition so no group policy.  Also I blocked updates by pressing  Pause 4 times, I think, which got me to June 11.  I have v1909. These instructions are for earlier versions of Windows 10.

        I will get through this but I need to read it and try to figure how to do all this on v1909.  And I am still not sure that as soon as I click “resume updates” on v1909 it all won’t just instantly download and install.

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
        Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
        Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
        -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

        • #2267496 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          As long as you have Pause set, nothing will show up in wushowhide.
          If yu have only pressed Pause 4 times, you can add another 7 days – you are allowed Pause x5 for a total of 35 days.
          As soon as you “resume updates,” will begin download/install.
          Metered connections may keep it from continuing the download, but it will be on the way as soon as you turn metered OFF.

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          • #2267512 Reply
            mpw
            AskWoody Plus

            That’s what I was afraid of.

            So next month, how do I use wushowhide on v1909 before I pause updates and before Win10 downloads and installs them.

            I have always paused in anticipation of update arrival when Woody says to pause.  But then I can’t use wushowhide.  There is something I am missing in all this.

            HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
            Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
            Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
            Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
            -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

            • #2267519 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Before you resume updates at the end of this Pause, turn on metered connections.
              Then resume updates (you have to at the end of Pause time anyway) and immediately run wushowhide.
              See if you can hide the updates while metered connections are on.
              You can always unhide whatever is hidden whenever you get ready.
              May work, may not. Worth a try.

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              • #2268660 Reply
                mpw
                AskWoody Plus

                At Woody’s go ahead I got wushowhide at the ready and clicked “resume updates”.  As quickly as they started to appear, I started wushowhide.  Bingo, they all showed up.  I hid one for Silverlight but let the rest go since it was time to install.

                I think had I wanted to hide all of them I had time to check all of them, but one started loading almost immediately so I’m not sure.

                Berserker79 here says he has time to run wushowhide the day they come out.  Am I to understand I don’t need to pause updates?  Windows leaves them listed for a while before loading and installing?  Or should I pause and then resume updates with wushowhide at the ready?  Again, it happens pretty fast and I might not be able to check all the boxes fast enough.  Not sure.

                Also, my apologies to all who warned me about opening Advanced and unchecking “apply repairs automatically”.  I of course forgot in the urgency of the moment.  Happily nothing bad happened.

                BTW my computer is fine.  Nothing bad happened.  Updates are installed.  Desktop, files and audio all OK.

                This is a great place to go for help.  Thanks to all.

                HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
                Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
                Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
                Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
                -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

              • #2268662 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                See #2267519 above.
                If you do not have metered connections set to ON before you resume updates, the updates will begin download IMMEDIATELY and it is too late to run wushowhide and hide them.

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              • #2268730 Reply
                mpw
                AskWoody Plus

                Yes I had metered connections on before I clicked resume updates.  Metered connection was on for both Wifi and Ethernet.  One update started loading right away.  It was loading as wushowhide was scanning.  But it was not installing.

                I blocked Silverlight.  I don’t know what would have happened if I had tried to block the one that started loading and I don’t remember which one it was.

                HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
                Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
                Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
                Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
                -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

              • #2277011 Reply
                hms
                AskWoody Plus

                Why do I need to turn on Metered Connnections in wushowhide if I used the update settings that you suggest in AKB000..16? I have v1909 and have not been offered update to v2004 although I suppose it might show up running wushowhide.

                I have not yet hidden updates, although 2 Intel updates are now offered that I may need to hide with wushowhide.

                Why do I need to run wushowhide via wireless  connection? The W10 pc is a desktop with ethernet – no need for wireless. I have run wushowhide before using ethernet with no problems.

                Thanks for help with this. I thought I had window update under control until reading about using wushowhide.

              • #2277013 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                If you have the Pro Edition, you will not need Metered connections b/c you can stop the automatic download with the Group Policy setting of “2”.

                But if you have Home Edition, there is no Group Policy. Metered Connections is the only way to try to keep the updates from downloading automatically if you end Pause and want to hide the updates. And even that may not always work.

              • #2277050 Reply
                hms
                AskWoody Plus

                Thanks so much. I have 10 pro and have not used metered connections.

                That is one of the confusing issues by have several versions of Windows. At least the basic functions such as updating should be the same.

                Also, thank you for taking the time to update AKB00..16 for v2004 users although I am not planning to update from 1909 in the near future.

              • #2277952 Reply
                Speed Racer
                AskWoody Plus

                @PKCano,

                You refer to GP value of “2”. I’m running W10 Pro v1909 and would like to learn more about the GP settings. I believe you had a previous article, which I cannot find, that outlined how to use GP to prevent Feature updates and Quality updates. Could you provide the link please? I’ll be sure to bookmark it this time.  Thank you.

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              • #2277963 Reply
                Paul T
                AskWoody MVP

                The Knowledge Base article 2000016 is here.

                cheers, Paul

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      • #2278677 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        Well I thought metered connections and wushowhide.diagcab was working perfectly this month right up until it wasn’t.

        I had my internet set to metered connection.  I clicked to resume updates and had wushowhide at the ready and started the scan.

        Windows update listed updates and wushowhide listed them too.  Nothing downloaded. I checked the updates I did not want and all were listed in hide and it said they would not be installed.

        I clicked “Download” button and the cumulative update hung and quit on “getting things ready”.

        Since the updates I did not want were listed in wushowhide and the message at the bottom of the update list said I may have to connect to an unmetered WIFI connection, I turn off metered connection.

        Boom everything downloaded including those I did not want that were listed under hide in wushowhide.  So, I thought well that’s OK, they won’t install.  Wrong again.  Everything installed.

        I opened wushowhide, l looked under hide, all the ones I hid were gone from the list.

        After a restart, I went to Update History.  It listed everything as failed to install at first.  Then above that in the list it showed everything successfully installed.

        So, it looks like metered connection blocked everything even when I clicked “Download” button.  And when I turned off metered connection everything installed, including the updates I had hidden in wushowhide.

        I still don’t get how to do this.  What did I do wrong?

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
        Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
        Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
        -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

        • #2278682 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          You must not have read AKB2000016. It specifically states that whatever you see in the Update queue is what you get. If you hide updates with wushowhide, and they still show in the queue, you have to CLEAR THE QUEUE before you proceed with the download, because “what you see is what you get.” The procedure to clear the queue is linked in AKB2000016.

          Before next Patch Tuesday, you should go over the instructions so that won’t happen again.

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          • #2278694 Reply
            mpw
            AskWoody Plus

            Thank you.  That did not stay in my old head for a month.  Also I think I remember being confused by those instructions.  I will try to get it right next time.

            No harm really.  At least I don’t think so.  I had followed instructions from Microsoft and got Microsoft Office Picture Manager from Office 2010, the last time it was included in office tools.  Since I just have the one tool, I didn’t think I should install Office 2010 updates.  I didn’t know what would happen.  Apparently nothing.  Picture manager works and I have not seen any other problems.  I guess it is OK to install updates even when I just have one tool from Office 2010.

            HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
            Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
            Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
            Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
            -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

      • #2278999 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        PKCano,

        Today I opened Windows Update and Security in Windows 10 settings to pause updates.  There were 55 updates for Microsoft Office 10.  I do not have Office 10.  I have Office Picture Manager which I got from SharePoint Designer 2010 according to these instructions.

        https://www.groovypost.com/howto/bring-back-microsoft-office-picture-manager/

        All the updates said “Status: Pending download.”

        So, I opened wushowhide, unchecked box under Advanced that said “apply repairs automatically” and scanned with it.  All the updates were listed, I checked them all and I hid them all, which took a long time.  Then I went to clear the Update queue.

        https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/2000013-how-to-clear-the-windows-update-queue-in-win10/

        I turned on metered connections. I had already run wushowhide and hid all the updates.

        I opened services in Computer Management>Services and Applications>Services.  The word “disable” does not appear in any drop-down menu or anywhere else.  The best I could do is choose Properties where I could stop the service.  I had to change the start up to manual at the same time or when I restarted the computer, Windows Update would turn on again if I left it at automatic.

        I restarted the computer.

        I had already changed the startup type to manual.

        I ran wushowhide and verified that all the updates were still hidden.  I ran it again and verified they are not available to be hidden.  Nothing was available to be hidden.

        I restarted the computer again.  Metered connection is still on.

        I did my best.

        Is there someplace else where services are listed and it is possible to disable windows update?  This is what got me confused last month.  Then I forgot about it completely.

        All the updates are still in Update and Security>Windows Update “Pending download”.  Are they going to disappear when Windows eventually updates?

        Thank you for your help.

        I just went to services again.  Windows Update says it is running.  Next to manual it shows (Trigger Start).  I don’t know what that is.  According to the Properties box it is still stopped and it is still manuel start.  But in the list of services it shows Manual(Trigger Start).

         

         

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
        Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
        Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
        -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

        • This reply was modified 3 months, 3 weeks ago by PKCano.
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        • #2279004 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          If the updates show are hidden in wushowhide, wait for WU to check for updates on its own. The updates should be gone from the WU queue.

          If the updates still show in Windows Update after WU has checked for updats, try hiding them again. As long as they are showing in Windows Update, they will download/install.

          Screen-Shot-2020-07-09-at-6.10.18-PM

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      • #2279009 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        PKCano,

        I was adding this edit to the post above while you were answering me.

        I just went to services again.  Windows Update says it is running.  Next to manual it shows (Trigger Start).  I don’t know what that is.  According to the Properties box it is still stopped and it is still manuel start.  But in the list of services it shows Manual(Trigger Start).

        I don’t know what this means but thanks to your wonderful picture I am going to follow all your instructions again and will be able to disable Windows Update this time.

        Thank you again.

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
        Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
        Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
        -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

        • #2279013 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          If you can’t, and the updates are still hidden by wushowhide, just wait till WU checks on its own again. The updates should be gone from the WU queue.

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      • #2279021 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        I went through all the steps, this time using disabled.  After I restarted, I went to Services and Windows Update is running and it says Manual (Trigger Start).

        windows-update

        This time the Properties box shows it is running but is still set for manual.

        windows-update2

        Is it supposed to be like this?

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
        Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
        Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
        -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

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        • #2279026 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Do this first – look in Control Panel\ Power options\ under “what the power button does” there should be a check box to turn off Fast Startup. You may have to click on the link to change things first.

          Then set the WU Service to disabled.
          Stop the service.
          Reboot (wait till it’s through booting)
          Go to services and change from Disabled to Manual
          BUT do not Start the service.
          Look in WU and see fi the patches are gone.

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          • #2279039 Reply
            mpw
            AskWoody Plus

            I already had Fast Startup turned off.

            I went through the steps you listed.  After reboot when I went to services, WU was stopped but the start up type is Manual (Trigger Start) again in the list.  I changed it from disabled to manual in the Properties Box.  WU is still stopped and I still have metered connection on.

            All the patches are gone. Hooray!

            The only thing I did different is after I set WU to Disabled, I clicked STOP in the Properties box the first time.  This time after I set WU to Disabled, I stopped it by using the commands in the upper left corner.

            Anyway, WU stayed stopped this time and the patches are all gone.

            There are a whole bunch of services on Manual (Trigger Start).  I never saw so many before I don’t think.  Is that because WU was changed and they depend on each other??

            Now that the patches are gone should I start WU? If I leave metered connection on will I then be able to run wushowhide and hide the July patches on Tuesday?

            Thanks again for your help and patience.

            HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
            Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
            Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
            Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
            -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

            • #2279073 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Just FYI – wushowhide uses the Windows Update Service to search for updates too. After the reboot, Win Upd Service was still stopped when you set it to Manual. But the first time you run wushowhide, or the first time Windows searches for updatesn on its own, the Service is turned back on and operates like normal after that.

              To clear the cache/queue, you have to follow that procedure exactly (all the steps). When you do, it works.

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              • #2279133 Reply
                mpw
                AskWoody Plus

                OK. No need to turn WU back on automatic at startup. WU or wushowhide will start WU when needed. Leave it the way it is, Stopped/Manual (Trigger Start).

                Leave internet set to metered connection so nothing is downloaded. On Tuesday run wushowhide.  Hide patches I don’t want, actually all of them on the day they come out.

                Clear the patches from the Windows Update queue if any are there.

                Is there any need to pause WU if I keep my connection metered or is it best to pause it too?

                P.S.  I went googling and found out it is not unusual to have “20-30” services set at Manual (Trigger Start).  I have more than that but I guess I just never noticed before and it is OK.

                Thanks again for all your help.  You are very generous with your time and knowledge.

                HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
                Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
                Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
                Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
                -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

              • #2279137 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                If you are on Home, I think if you Pause the day before Patch Tues for 35 days, you should be safe till the next Patch Tues. You can always turn on Metered connections then end Pause any time you want to install. If you keep up with what patches that are out there, you will know where things stand. And there is always a way to cheat Pause.

                If you have Pro, go by the settings in AKB2000016.

              • #2279152 Reply
                mpw
                AskWoody Plus

                Yes, I am on Windows 10 Home.  I will pause WU on Monday (7/13) for 35 days and then turn off metered connection.

                I assume WU will not be confused when I pause it while it is set at Stopped/Manual (Trigger Start).

                Many thanks again.

                HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
                Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
                Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
                Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
                -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

      • #2279684 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        I decided to pause updates tonight rather than tomorrow morning.  Leaving my internet connection on metered connection was blocking Defender Definition updates.

        So I turned off metered connection.  I had run wushowhide and knew only a definition was pending.  So I clicked “Check for Updates” and the Definition downloaded and installed. (I did the same thing yesterday when I saw a Definition pending in wushowhide.  But yesterday I turned metered connection back on.)

        Pause does not block Defender Updates.  But metered connection does.  From July 8 when I first turned metered connection on until yesterday, July 11, no definitions had been installed.  So I went looking.

        Metered connection is now off.

        Windows update service is now Running/Manual (Trigger Start).

        I have paused updates for 35 days.

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
        Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
        Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
        -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

      • #2280168 Reply
        WSaltamirano
        AskWoody Lounger

        If someone has W10 Home and add the following line to the registry, will it

        work ?

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          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          Why don’t you test it for us?

          cheers, Paul

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          • #2280899 Reply
            WSaltamirano
            AskWoody Lounger

            I have try it. It doesn’t work !!!

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            • #2280903 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              That Registry setting represents a Group Policy setting.
              Win10 Home does not have Group Policy, so it ignores the setting.
              That’s why it doesn’t work

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      • #2285438 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        Well this time I followed instructions exactly.  I hid two HP updates and the NET update. See figure below.

        2020-07-updates

        I then went through the steps to clear the queue and when I went to see if it was clear it was not.  See figure below.

        2020-07-updates-2

        So, I went through the procedure again with the same result.

        Then I decided maybe this is not wrong.  Windows update is just showing what failed to install.  If I wait with metered connections on, then eventually it will check for updates and only find the updates I have not hidden.

        And when I check the queue if that is all that is there, I can then turn off metered connections and only the updates I want will download and install.

        Hope that is right.

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
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        • #2285495 Reply
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          I leave metered on and click the download button(s) myself. Don’t trust non-metered at all.

          cheers, Paul

      • #2285532 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        Well overnight Windows Update ran and everything was in the queue except the Definition Update for Windows Defender which installed.

        2020-08-02-update-queue

        I double checked and verified the update(s) I did not want were hidden, and then verified they are not available to be hidden.  That was the case last night and it is still so this morning.  Yet here they all are in the queue this morning.

        showhide
        shohide2

        I will wait one more time for Windows to update.  I know I am completeing each step to clear the queue.  I don’t know why it is not working.

         

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          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Wait for WU to check for updates on its own.

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          • #2285539 Reply
            mpw
            AskWoody Plus

            Wait for WU to check for updates on its own.

            I did last night and I am again now.  Really trying to follow your instructions exactly.

            Thanks.

            HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
            Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
            Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
            Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
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      • #2285682 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        Ta Da! It worked.  Windows checked for updates and only came up with the one I wanted and the three I did not want are not in the queue.

        2020-08-02-2

        So I turned off metered connection and let Windows do its thing.

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          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Told you so! 🙂

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      • #2286020 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        They’re baaaack.  These updates are still hidden but showed up in the queue again.

        2020-08-03-updates

        Also couldn’t turn metered connection off to download Microsoft Office 2019 C2R updates or everything would have loaded and installed.  Since it is C2R thought I would try with metered on.  It stuck on “downloading office updates” for about 10 minutes then said it detected I had a data limit and could it download anyway and even though I clicked yes it stuck on “downloading office updates” again for about 30 minutes.  So I ended the task using Task Manager.  That somehow woke it up and another box immediately popped up and said to close all aps while office updates are installed which they quickly did and the computer restarted.  So I guess C2R can get through a metered connection with permission but got stuck somehow.

        I will try to clear the queue again but I am inclined to just turn off metered connection and let it all go.  This is not something I wish to do every day.   Probably should let the updates from HP load on this HP computer anyway.  And I somehow have NET on this computer anyway so might as well let it update.

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        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
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          Coldheart9020
          AskWoody Lounger

          Also couldn’t turn metered connection off to download Microsoft Office 2019 C2R updates or everything would have loaded and installed.

          If you have Group Policy setting Configure Automatic Updates set to 2 – Notify for download and auto install then there is no need for enabling metered connection. It looks like you have that GP setting enabled, since the ‘Download’ button can be seen in your screenshot.

          The July .NET Preview update is benign, so you can safely install it without worry if that is how you feel, but I would recommend using wushohide and the AKB2000013 steps again to purge KB4562900 from WU altogether. It is good practice for the future, and once you’ve mastered it, it will be easier to do for future unwanted updates.

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          • #2286045 Reply
            mpw
            AskWoody Plus

            I have Windows10 Home v1909 so no Group Policy.  I have AKB2000013 mastered all right.  It seems that is all I do.  The “hidden” updates keep coming back.

            Thanks for your thoughts though.

            HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
            Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
            Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
            Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
            -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

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            • #2286050 Reply
              Coldheart9020
              AskWoody Lounger

              Oh, I apologise for that then. Getting my wires crossed again.

              But, as Elly says, give Windows Update time and the queue should clear itself of the July .NET Preview. I know the process is a bit tedious; certainly compared to Windows 7, and I’m only just about adjusted to it myself. However, it’s worth it in the end 🙂

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      • #2286039 Reply
        Elly
        AskWoody MVP

        @Mpw-

        You can still hide KB 4562900 with wushowhide, and just don’t click the download button, and eventually it will disappear from your Windows Update queue, just like you did before.

        Windows Update will keep sending updates your way… but now you have the tools and knowledge to manage them…

        You don’t NEED any more updates (I’d check out the ones from HP, just in case) this month, so you don’t have to rush things by clearing the queue. Eventually Windows Update will check for updates on its own, and any that you’ve hidden will disappear… no stress!

        So- use it as practice as @Coldheart9020 says, or hide and ignore it… your choice.

        Non-techy Win 10 Pro and Linux Mint experimenter

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        • #2286044 Reply
          Elly
          AskWoody MVP

          Make sure that you uncheck the advanced option each time you run wushowhide, because it may ‘apply repairs’ automatically, that you didn’t intend.

          Non-techy Win 10 Pro and Linux Mint experimenter

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          • #2286048 Reply
            Coldheart9020
            AskWoody Lounger

            Functionally, this takes away the choice of which updates can be hidden; is that correct? In other words, you might not see every update available that can be hidden?

            • #2286051 Reply
              Elly
              AskWoody MVP

              If you don’t uncheck advanced, then it ‘applies repairs automatically’… and I’m too much of a chicken to find out what that means on my system!

              I do use wushowhide any time I have questions about what updates are available, and what updates I have hidden.

              Non-techy Win 10 Pro and Linux Mint experimenter

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              • #2286053 Reply
                Coldheart9020
                AskWoody Lounger

                Can’t say I blame you 🙂 but I’m sure I remember reading somewhere that if you don’t uncheck the advanced options box (I just do a double tap of space then hit return – it’s slightly quicker) that you don’t get a choice in what updates are shown.

                It doesn’t matter either way, as the recommended way is useful to check what’s in the pipeline, and which hidden updates are still lingering.

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      • #2286052 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        Elly and Coldheart9020

        If updates are hidden and do not appear in the queue one day, why don’t they stay hidden.  They are hidden in wushowhide but keep returning to the queue.  What is the point if they keep coming back?

        Windows did one update and only the update I wanted appeared in the queue.  I turned off metered connection and it downloaded and installed.  Success!  Empty queue.  I turned metered connection back on.

        Today I was about to turn off metered connection to update office and thought I better check the queue first.  And there they were again.  Had I not checked they would have downloaded and installed.

        I thought once hidden in wushowhide they would not appear in the queue again.

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
        Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
        Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
        -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

        • #2286054 Reply
          Elly
          AskWoody MVP

          Double check with wushowhide- are they still hidden?

          Non-techy Win 10 Pro and Linux Mint experimenter

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        • #2286057 Reply
          Coldheart9020
          AskWoody Lounger

          If updates are hidden and do not appear in the queue one day, why don’t they stay hidden. They are hidden in wushowhide but keep returning to the queue. What is the point if they keep coming back?

          I still have the July .NET Preview hidden in wushowhide (and have for almost 3 days), and I have the July .NET CU (the actually important, security update) successfully installed. I let WU do its own unattended search for updates – which seems to be every day and a half or so – and it’s not once being offered to me.

          As long as it’s hidden in wushowhide, and as long as you followed the process of clearing the Windows Update queue, it should eventually disappear from the WU window.

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      • #2286056 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        Yes.  That was the first thing I checked.

        On August 2, 2020 at 10:52 pm, when I posted here, all but the 2020-07 Cumulative Update were gone and the cumulative update downloaded and installed and the queue was empty.

        All are still hidden but returned to the queue anyway.

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
        Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
        Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
        -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

      • #2286451 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        OK.  Hidden updates are gone again.  Now lets see if they stay gone.  Last time they were back in less than a day.

        2020-08-05update-queue

        Thanks to all for your interest.

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
        Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
        Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
        -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

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          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Use wushowhide to verify they are hidden. (But don’t check the boxes b/c it will unhide them 🙂 )

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      • #2286469 Reply
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        The update for Microsoft Visual Studio Tools 2010 is gone but I removed the program so that may be why.  Everything else I hid is still there.

        2020-08-05-showhide-2

        Updates for Windows Defender had been in wushowhide since at least 8/1/2020 and do not seem able to get through metered connection.  So I turned off metered connection after I was sure those were the only ones pending.  Then I clicked check for updates and the Defender updates downloaded and installed.  There are no updates now showing to hide.

        2020-08-05-show-hide-1

        Then I paused updates until 9/9/2020.  That works better for me. I think Defender updates are important and they can get through pause but not metered.

        2020-08-05-pause-updates

        So I won’t know until September if the hidden updates stay hidden because nothing shows in wushowhide when updates are paused.

        Still researching the two HP updates and will try to know next month if they are important and I should unhide one or both.

        Thank you.

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows10 Home v1909 – Build 18363.1082
        Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
        Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
        -Version 2009(Build 13231.20262 C2R)

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