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WINDOWS 7 By Susan Bradley We know that a sizable number of AskWoody members will continue to use Windows 7 well after its January 2020 end-of-service[See the full post at: Hunting for an elusive Win7 ESU license]
UPDATE: Amy and Ted have created an online form to make it easy to collect the info they need to sell to you a Windows 7 ESU license. Go here to fill it out. If you have any questions, please let us know.
Yes, it’s not USA only.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady
yup. ESUs for Win7 should be worldwide and not limited to folks residing in the USA
Note: As Susan told me several days ago ESUs are for those using Win7 Pro, Enterprise or even Ultimate. Win7 editions like Home basic & home premium are ineligible for ESUs
No.
The form:
has Company as a required field. Generally, a company is a business.
redknight says they got three licenses.
My question was if being a business, as opposed to private individual, is a requirement to obtain a license.
I have three W7 machines.
Actually, the real question is the question I asked initially.
I appreciate your perspective and respect your opinion, but I simply wanted an answer.
The answer is “probably not” as a business could be one person with one machine. Calling it “business” may be a way of pointing out that it is not simple or cheap and therefore not really suitable for home users.
cheers, Paul
one purchased with Win 7 as a manufacturer-installed downgrade from Win 8, and one purchased with Win 7 as a manufacturer-installed downgrade from Win 10. Might the downgrades present any issues when trying to apply the ESU key?
I really hope not, as Microsoft specifically marketed the W7 ESU at a lower price for those who’re using W7 Enterprise as a downgrade from W10 Enterprise…
So, it appears that this final patch roll-up that’s required in order to use an ESU (and as I understand it, is also required in order to get patch protection via 0Patch after Microsoft support ends) will include a big nag screen.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-what-will-happen-to-your-windows-7-pc-on-january-15-2020/
Any word on whether this will appear for ESU licencees, or whether there will be any way to deactivate it?
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@AmbularD,
The nag was part of the December 2019 rollup also. When it appeared on my Windows 7 Home Premium and Ultimate laptops, I just clicked the link that said “Do not remind me again” and it hasn’t reappeared. I did have to click that link on every user account. So it doesn’t seem to be a problem even if it does appear.
Elsewhere here on AskWoody I’ve also read about registry fixes to get rid of the nag if you’re worried that Microsoft will “reactivate” it later.
Linux Mint Cinnamon 19.3
Group A:
Win7 Pro x64 SP1 Haswell, 0patch Pro, dual boot with Linux, mostly offline
Win7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Ivy Bridge, 0patch Pro, mostly offline
Win 10 Pro x64 v22H2 Ivy Bridge, dual boot with Linux
Nope! The ESU is just a license.
cheers, Paul
Been informed by Norton that they will no longer provide software updates for installations on Windows 7. Essentially, you’ll be “stuck” at the latest version available today. “However, your Norton client security software will continue to receive the latest malware definitions by LiveUpdate, vulnerability updates, and compatibility fixes.” Then they go on to warn about the risk of staying on Win 7.
Just curious as to what, if any, notifications other people have received from their AVs/Security Suites regarding continuation of support for Win 7 past this point?
We know that Microsoft Security Essentials will follow a similar path.
Woody and Rick41: I’m wondering if Norton is making a distinction between Windows 7 and Windows 7 Service Pack 1. Norton’s posting at
says “if you are on Windows 7, your Norton client security software will no longer receive the new software updates that the supported versions of Windows (Windows 10, Windows 8, and Windows 7 Service Pack 1) will receive”. (Bold-face emphasis provided by me). So they seem to be saying that if you have Service Pack 1, then Windows 7 users will continue to receive Norton updates. They also say in that same posting that “Your Norton products will continue to support Windows 7 for the foreseeable future”. The date shown at the bottom of the posting says “Last modified: 01/27/2020”, and so it seems to be pretty recent information. I called Norton as I was writing this (on February 1, 2020 but before I understood the distinction between Windows 7 and Windows 7 Service Pack 1 ) and the representative I spoke to said that that as far as he knows, Norton will continue to support Windows 7. I read to him what Rick41 said in his posting above, and again he said that as far as he knows, Norton will continue to support Windows 7, and he has no information to indicate otherwise. At the point I spoke with him, I didn’t discuss whether it only pertains to Service Pack 1, because at that point I hadn’t yet read that deeply into the Norton posting. So I called Norton again, and this time I got a representative whom I had a hard time understanding, but then when I read to her what it said on the Norton website, she said yes, Norton will continue to provide updates for Windows 7. But again, I didn’t discuss with her the distinction between Windows 7 Service Pack 1 and Windows 7, because I had a hard time understanding what she was saying, and I had been on the phone a long time. In addition, I looked at the Norton website at the following link:
and it says there under “System Requirements”: …. “Microsoft Windows 7 (all versions) with Service Pack 1 (SP 1) or later.” (Bold-face emphasis provided by me). So that seems to indicate that if you have Service Pack 1, you would continue to receive updates. Finally, I looked at an article dated October 29, 2019 by Gregg Keizer on computerworld.com located at the following link:
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3449216/what-happens-after-windows-7s-retirement.html
and it says in that article “Just as happened at the retirement of Windows XP in April 2014, expect that most credible AV makers will continue to pump out new definition updates — the “fingerprints” that identify newly-found malware to the scanner — for Windows 7 long after the OS has fallen off the support list.” So that appears to be another piece of evidence that most AV makers will continue to support Windows 7 (and I assume this would include Norton, since to the best of my knowledge, Norton is a credible AV maker).
So I’m just wondering what you think. Do you think all this could simply mean that Norton is no longer going to provide updates for Windows 7 unless you have Windows 7 Service Pack 1?
L95, on Jan 30 I received an email from Norton warning that Microsoft had ended support for Windows 7. But it gave this assurance of continued Norton Support for Windows 7:
“Your Norton protection will continue to run as normal on Windows 7. You will continue to receive security and product updates for Norton and you will continue to experience the same great level of protection you’ve come to expect from us.”
The email only refers to “Windows 7” with no distinction made between original 7 and SP1 — even though some previous Norton blogs had seemed to suggest a difference in support between the two.
The following thread at the Norton Forums discussed this confusion, with the conclusion that Win 7 SP1 — and likely original 7 as well — will continue to be fully supported by Norton, with both definitions AND software updates.
https://community.norton.com/en/forums/windows-7-support-ending
The #Windows7 Extended Security Updates “Ask Microsoft Anything” board is now open for early questions – http://aka.ms/AMA/Windows7ESU.
https://twitter.com/MSWindowsITPro/status/1220048280656084992
@ KYKaren
Patch Lady said it would be slightly higher than the base U.S. $61 ESU license fee. So, how much “slightly higher” is it?
Just curious, where did *Patch Lady* say it would be higher than the $61.00 fee that was originally listed?
The price for a single ESU license was U.S. $61 per workstation for the first year — $11 up from the original $50 estimate. Reportedly, the price was increased to match up with the license fee for MS Software Assurance (more info) customers.
@ anonymous
It was around $68, …
I placed an order for the ESU license yesterday, and it was indicated on the order form that the cost would be $63.75 each.
https://www.askwoody.com/newsletter/closing-the-book-on-windows-7/
Just curious, where did ….
” https://www.askwoody.com/newsletter/closing-the-book-on-windows-7/ “
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