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    This topic contains 5 replies, has 3 voices, and was last updated by  Paul T 4 weeks, 1 day ago.

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    • #2086900 Reply

      280park
      AskWoody Plus

      RE: Focusing on Safety, In What Order Should Preliminary Tasks Be Executed?

      I unboxed a new computer with Windows 10 Pro and turned it on. I do not have a Windows account and did not create one during the Windows setup routine. I turned off Cortana and answered “no” to the eight to ten questions asked during the setup routine. I did not connect to the internet during the setup and have not done so yet. I reached the desktop and have not changed anything. The Windows version is 1809 and the build number is 17763.195.

      Here is what I plan to do next:

      1. Before connecting to the internet, make a system image using the preinstalled Backup and Restore (Windows 7) program. I know that many people do not have a favorable opinion of this program, but I thought it would be a good safety measure to make a system image before connecting to internet.

      2. Connect to the internet for the first time.

      3. Using preinstalled Microsoft Edge, download Macrium Reflect Free and make another system image.

      4. Following the procedures provided by Woody and others, download December’s updates but not Windows version 1903 or 1909. (I want to focus on safety first.)

      5. Using preinstalled Microsoft Edge, download and install Eset Internet Security. (I have used this program on other computers for years with no problems.)

      6. Following the procedures provided by Woody and others, update Windows to version 1903.

      7. Using preinstalled Microsoft Edge, download and install the Chrome browser. I plan to use it instead of Edge.

      I like to keep things safe and simple.

      Does this ordering of tasks look reasonable or should I reorder them? For example, should I immediately after connectiong to the internet download and install Eset?

      Any comments or suggestions would be very much appreciated.

    • #2086961 Reply

      anonymous

      There is a small chance that installing Eset before upgrading to 1903 will cause the update to be slow or to fail.  If you can find a disable for an hour option in Eset that could help.

      Otherwise, as long is your backup drive is large enough to contain several backup images, I think that sounds ok, but more cautious than how many would do it.  The important parts are 4 and 6 – the ones you do not cover in detail.  If you have good instructions for those and follow them that should be fine.  Once you are updated to 1903 you may have to go back and set the other windows update settings again.

      What I would do, if I had another computer available – on the other computer, download an installer for Macrium, ESET, and the ISO for 1903, using Heidoc.  Put those on a drive or flash drive to copy them to your new computer.  Install Macrium and make an image with it, still not online.  Then, update to 1903 using the ISO, still not online.  After the restart, set updates to defer or block, connect to the internet, install ESET, and proceed with other setup – Chrome, and setting up updates.

      • #2087260 Reply

        280park
        AskWoody Plus

        @anonymous – Thanks for the reply.

        I don’t think drive space will be a problem. My plan was to put the system image using Backup and Restore (Windows 7) on a new 1TB portable hard drive and to put the system image using Macrium Reflect Free on a second new 1TB portable hard drive. The single drive on the new computer that I am configuring only has about 32 GBs of used space and I will not be storing much on the computer in the future.

        I am not at all familiar with Heidoc and am somewhat reluctant to try something new so soon with my new computer. I really don’t want to mess it up. I do have another computer but it has Windows Home Premium installed on it. I wonder if downloading software from Heidoc onto a Windows 7 computer and then installing it on a Windows 10 computer using flash drives would work.

        What I am struggling with is assessing the level of malware risk before installing Eset as I briefly connect to the internet to a) download Macrium Reflect Free, b) download Windows updates, and c) download and install Eset.

    • #2087305 Reply

      anonymous

      Since you mention that the new computer only has a 32gb drive, because of the limited space I think you may need to have a formatted usb hard drive connected to the computer during the upgrade to 1903 process.  I don’t know exactly how that works.

      I think the malware risk is very small.  If you accurately type the home page for macrium, eset and microsoft instead of using a search engine to find them, even smaller.  A search engine results can have misleading ads.  Doing an image before you ever connect is nice, and once you install Eset and get it updated it should quickly tell you if there has been any virus problem.

      • #2087460 Reply

        280park
        AskWoody Plus

        @anonymous – The advertised size of the solid state drive on the new computer was 250GB. File Explorer indicates that the total size is 237GB with 204GB free and 33GB used.

        I will not need to open a browser to download Windows and Microsoft updates because I plan to use Windows Update.

        As you suggested, I will obtain the exact web addresses for Macrium and Eset using my old computer and type them into the address bar of Microft Edge on the new computer instead of using Edge to search for those websites. Thanks for the suggestion.

        And thanks for your assessment of the level of malware risk entailed in following my planned steps.

    • #2100492 Reply

      Paul T
      AskWoody MVP

      What I am struggling with is assessing the level of malware risk before installing Eset

      Windows 10 comes with Defender preloaded so you are protected and you only went to known good sites, so barring malicious ads on those site you will be fine.

      Running a full scan with whatever tools you have will confirm.

      cheers, Paul

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