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      • #2264418 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Today.

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      • #2264421 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Don’t forget to download the compatible .IPSW files from here

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        • #2264448 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          Have never downloaded an IPSW file. What are the benefits? I normally go through iTunes on the PC to download major updates like iOS 13.5, which I’m going to plug into soon. Thanks

          Win7 SP1 Home x64, lone wolf and free as a bird, MacOS / Chromebook

          • #2264845 Reply
            DriftyDonN
            AskWoody Plus

            How do you dload iphone update on Windows machine thru Itunes? Then, how do you get that onto your iphone? Special dongle? Are you even referring to a windows pc or a Mac?

            Thanks!

            DriftyDonN

            IOS newb on IPhone 11

            "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

            • #2264862 Reply
              Alex5723
              AskWoody Plus

              Itunes on Windows, Mac checks for iPhone updates when you connect and unlock the iPhone to your PC.
              iTunes will download and install the updates.

              itns

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            • #2264867 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Also notice on the screenshots: you can backup to your computer instead of the iCloud like @Alex5723 is doing.

              The phone charging cable should have a standard USB connection on one end. Open iTunes (download from Apple, not MS Store) then plug in the iPhone to a USB port.

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              • #2264918 Reply
                DriftyDonN
                AskWoody Plus

                Ah too late, Downloaded it from ms store. Somehow, ITunes just disappeared, sort of. I had installed it long ago to use with my ipod nano 4th generation ! I could not find the installation files! There were a couple of folders in Music but that was it. The strangest thing, when I plugged in the nano, itunes started! So As its so old and I know I cannot replace the battery (drat! I like this thing) I didnt use it much of late- yrs? I kept it charged for the most part(went all the way down a couple times) but I digress. After getting an iphone a month ago and seeing that itunes was used to download updates for the IOS, I went to store and dl’d itunes so I could find it!. It likely just copied newest version over the installed one. In any case, it came form ms store. Possible to get to apple store from win10 machine? Uninstall current then go to apple store and I assume use apple id to log in? Am I any where close on this? I dont even get that I can download IOS and cloud stuff thru itunes!

                ANY advice? fergeddaboudit?

                thnx

                …and I dont have icloud active…..

                "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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              • #2264921 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                iTunes is FREE. You don’t have to log into anything.
                Google iTunes, download from the Apple link. You may have to choose an older version to get one not from MS Store.

                If you have already installed the MS Store thing, see if it works first.

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              • #2264927 Reply
                DriftyDonN
                AskWoody Plus

                Aple.com offers itunes from ms store. Back out of thatand started itunes, plugged in iphone (and external ssd which is where I wan to back up to. No issues with that but itunes? wants a driver for phone- Do you know the URL for that driver? Itunes say get from windows update? I am paused thru mid june.

                Also, do not see any option to back up…did I see alex say it AUTOMATICALLY STARTS BACKUP WHEN CONNECTED?????

                "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

              • #2264929 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                https://www.apple.com/za/itunes/download/

                Screen-Shot-2020-05-22-at-7.58.03-PM

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              • #2264933 Reply
                DriftyDonN
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                The URL at the TOP of your screen shot :

                your-URL
                Obviosly different from screen shot posted. In any event Itunes went ahead and backed up my iphone in the background  without so much as a may I. I accidentally stumble across the location. So now itunes and apple do what they will without telling me about it. Hate that. BTW I did find those screenshots alex posted after much poking and prodding . Same old itunes- esoterisc PIA and I do not want my bups on the computer but when I did find the places to make choices, only 2- cloud or PC. Since I dont have cloud active it went ahead and picked its own spot on my PC. HOPING I can just move the file to an external drive-any idea?

                I guess apple.com knew a windows machine when it saw one and changed the download choice to windows store. nice huh?

                Thanks for the help. I do get that backing up to PC saves GB on my IPHONE account/space on phone. Appreciate that bit of new know about.!

                "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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                PKCano
                Da Boss

                You must not have clicked on “iTunes for Windows.” (just above the black Microsoft logo)
                The screen looks the same for me on both the Mac and Windows.
                But here’s the direct download link.

                https://www.apple.com/itunes/download/win64

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              • #2265032 Reply
                DriftyDonN
                AskWoody Plus

                https://www.apple.com/za/itunes/download/

                You are right- I clicked the URL above which was at the very top of your post. I figured it had to be there for a reason. I showed you the screenshot of that link. Now perhaps I completely misunderstood, but I thought you et al said I needed to get itunes from apple store not windows store.

                I couldnt figure why you sent that link when you said try with what I had installed- I did and I’m pretty sure I posted as much. Yet the links cont’d so I assumed you meant I HAD to get a different sourced version of itunes. Nonsensical but we aren’t talking about anything that makes any sense- partly because of the method of communication and partly because of incomplete instructions(ie those screen shots from Alex didnt just pop up when I opened itunes-I had to dig DEEP to find them)  Another way of putting it is you wouldn’t want to walk into a Biochemistry lab and take the midterm cold turkey.

                Thank you for all your patience and sharing. I do appreciate it very much. Clarity comes with details and I eventually will get there.

                IF you are not disgusted and want to know I will post if I am successful.

                 

                "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

              • #2265033 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                You don’t get Windows Programs from the Apple Store. The Apple Store is for Apple products.

                And I NEVER recommend anything from the Windows Store.

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              • #2266772 Reply
                Mele20
                AskWoody Lounger

                I guess apple.com knew a windows machine when it saw one and changed the download choice to windows store. nice huh?

                I know I am late to this thread…but curious. What version of Windows 10 do you have? I bet it is 1903 or 1909. I am still on 1809 and I have none of the problems described. You CANNOT install iTunes (or icloud which I know you don’t use but I do) from Microsoft store IF your version of Windows 10 is earlier than 1903. It is another good reason to remain on earlier versions of Windows 10 for as long as they are supported.

                My computers run 24/7/365 and when I got on my Windows 10 pro 1809 computer a few days ago, in the morning, I was greeted with a popup from Apple sitting patiently on my screen. It wanted to install the latest iTunes for Windows 7.
                This is how I get all Apple updates – Apple Software Update runs in my Windows Start Menu. This all changes whenever I upgrade to Windows 10 1903 as then the Apple software at the Microsoft store will be use I think and it will then be updates for Windows 10. I used to look forward to this but after reading this thread…I think I’d rather stay on Apple software for Windows 7 used on Windows 10 computers prior to 1903 version.

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              • #2266785 Reply
                DriftyDonN
                AskWoody Plus

                I appreciate your response and try to help. I am on vr 1909, and I get Itunes and it’s most recent update from within itunes. So unless itunes uses windows store…..

                In any case, things got a little heated. Playing 20 ?’s with one and TMI from another only confused the issue. I STILL do not know why I only get ONE backup at a time-that is, it gets replaced by a newer one. I haven’t even turned it on but one time since then to check if I was storing the 10.5 update-yup.

                I do not ever sync anything unless there is a GOOD reason for it. I have been using and hating itunes since i bought an ipod nano in ~2006. As I said I simply drag n drop I don’t get the need for LIBRARY collection…store things in multiple places? Anyway I figured how to make playlists and thats all. So noe I buy a PHONE and am having to use itunes to back-up(I like Macrium for that) and to update. I understand I can use icloud etc but in the interest of time and not using providers GB limit on my plan(would I be?) I try itunes. See above for screenshot of what appears to be 2 iphones connected and explanation about what happens when clicking on each.

                All is well- I just have a 700 $ phone(fully paid for upfront)Locked into  and a flippin contract I didnt know about for 12 months w/ BOOST Mobil – all in the interest of saving $100 (apple price 800$) Should have used to 100 to upgrade to win10 pro on my other laptop!

                Hope you are healthy amid this pandemic- I’ve been isolated since feb (w the wife o course 😉

                Thanks again for your interest!

                D

                "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

        • #2264449 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          Just realized you might be talking about making sure we have the latest iTunes update on our PC or Mac? This will make sure we have the latest firmware to update through iTunes?

          Win7 SP1 Home x64, lone wolf and free as a bird, MacOS / Chromebook

      • #2264547 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Have never downloaded an IPSW file. What are the benefits? I normally go through iTunes on the PC to download major updates like iOS 13.5, which I’m going to plug into soon. Thanks

        Keeping the latest .IPWS files will let you restore (using iTunes) very fast.
        I never updates iOS using iTunes. I always update OTA (3 Min. to download 4.5GB of 13.5 and 5 Min. for preparing and updating).

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        • #2264550 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          Got it! Thanks. Actually I would rather go OTA myself. Had figured maybe I should do the iTunes route but to heck with it. Thought I had overlooked something, good to hear.

          Win7 SP1 Home x64, lone wolf and free as a bird, MacOS / Chromebook

      • #2264560 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        iOS 12.4.7 & HomePod 13.4.5 released too.

      • #2264871 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Also notice on the screenshots: you can backup to your computer instead of the iCloud like @Alex5723 is doing.

        My default is iCloud as the iPhone/iPad.. automatically backup when charging and connected to my wi-fi network. Setting the backup to ‘Computer’ in iTunes, will disable iCloud backups (unless run manually).
        I do backup to ‘Computer’ after each iOS update.

      • #2264968 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        In any event Itunes went ahead and backed up my iphone in the background  without so much as a may I.

        iTunes doesn’t backup behind your back if you don’t set auto sync….
        If you backup to ‘Computer’ the iPhone/iPad.. backup files on Windows are at :

        C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\

        You can of course copy the Backup file to an external SSD/HDD..drive. I do.

        ibkp

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        • #2265050 Reply
          DriftyDonN
          AskWoody Plus

          Should I take from this path that you have or are connected to an apple computer? I have no such entry under users/appdata/roaming/

          Can you tell me what it is this wants from me? or where I can find the driver?

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          "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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            PKCano
            Da Boss

            Can you tell me what it is this wants from me? or where I can find the driver?

            There are two pieces of information there:
            You can get the driver from Windows Update (It would be a good idea to have the phone plugged in when Windows Update runs).
            OR you might be able to search the MS Catalog, OR you could use something like Google to give you information where to download the driver.
            AND
            You can eject the iPhone
            by clicking the button (like you eject any USB device).

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          • #2265062 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            I have no such entry under users/appdata/roaming/

            This is where @Alex5723 said to look (where “username” is your ID on the computer):

            C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\

            It’s in the same place on my computer as well.

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            • #2265779 Reply
              anonymous
              Guest

              Would it really not be obvious that the path posted by drftydn  was the same as Alx except the c:/ was left off? Perhaps the early ending was the misunderstanding I don’t have the path alex posted either….mine is different for iphone I use.  c:\users\MYname\apple\mobilesync\backup

              Just sayin, well, asking are we needin to be THAT detailed? And people agreed and thanked too so I guess it IS in the details. I’ll be careful

          • #2265065 Reply
            Myst
            AskWoody Plus

            See the post above #2264968 by @alex5723
            “If you backup to ‘Computer’ the iPhone/iPad.. backup files on Windows are at :
            C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\”

            Not sure I’m following everything here correctly, but the location of your backup files if you’ve synced your iphone through iTunes on your PC, should be located in the Windows folder as noted by Alex above.

            Win7 SP1 Home x64, lone wolf and free as a bird, MacOS / Chromebook

            • #2265165 Reply
              DriftyDonN
              AskWoody Plus

              Thank you Myst. I have found where the backup is and also learned it makes a difference where you get itunes from. The path is different for microsoft store and Iphone store. MS store=>c:\users\name\apple\mobilesync\backup) But perhaps you could answer for me…I want to manually backup when necessary- so if I select automatically sync when I plug in Iphone, Does that just sync music etc or does it start backup? Also, itunes automatically backed up Iphone last night unbeknownst to me- the updated install must have defaulted to sync? In any case, I had no idea WHERE it had backed up to so I finally found the settings for cloud or pc sync or manual etc and manually set it to backing up-again no idea where, when it had completed. Alex helped me find it (got me in the neighborhood) and it was in a path right next door so to speak, it was in a mobilesync folder  BUT There was only ONE backup file. Dated 22May. Then I look and a popout says changed 23may. It was a large file considering 64mb storage was all but empty- 6 photos. 187 mb- is that lg for an iphone 11? Anyway, I have backed this up 2x, once synced accidentally, and one manually. Only one file.

              On quite a different note, I discovered a way to have itunes backup directly to an external ssd to preserve space on my pc and to protect it. Just have to hope I can reverse the process if I ever have to restore!

              Where do the consecutive manual  backups GO? As I said I only have one. Will be updating IOS soon so I want to have good backups if required. It just seems each one should be dated separately.

              Mebbe I should have stayed w/ android- I never backed that up- I have only used cell phones for emergency only for the last 15 yrs. Dislike that OS immensely!

              Thnx for your time!

              DriftyDonN

              RIP Robin D. MacLeod USMC 1947-1967

              "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

              • #2265223 Reply
                DriftyDonN
                AskWoody Plus

                Upon opening itunes again, it restored the backup folder that was deleted to direct backup straight to external ssd….and when I ran manual backup it backed up to pc so the direct to ssd external trick didn’t hold. I should have known as the way to do that was from an article in 2018. Worth a shot and didnt hurt anything.

                itunes

                Doesnt that look like two iphones attached? Huh!

                When click on “color”icon, backup screens appear

                When Click on Black icon, kicked out and the missing driver window appears along with eject iphone button(does not appear to be directions to do that) but there it is. I also have external SSD connected fwiw. So I’m back to looking for a driver ituneslikes. (device mgr tells me I have the most suitable drivers already, itunes tells me I dont.)

                And I still dont know why I can only create ONE backup file on the PC. Is this a feature?

                I had less trouble android. and no backups!

                "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        (ie those screen shots from Alex didnt just pop up when I opened itunes-I had to dig DEEP to find them)

        There is no need to DIG. To get that screen in iTunes you have to click/select your connected iPhone icon.

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        • #2265226 Reply
          DriftyDonN
          AskWoody Plus

          yes Alex its easy when you know the ONE place to click but when I had to hunt and click all over, it felt like digging (GRIN)

          "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

          • #2266740 Reply
            doriel
            AskWoody Lounger

            I was exactly in this situation too few years ago. My colleage said it very easy to backup by few clicks. It took me sooooo long and I didnt found it. Who should know, that you have to click on such small icon? Apple please make this more obvious, we are not all iSheeps.

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      • #2265061 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Should I take from this path that you have or are connected to an apple computer? I have no such entry under users/appdata/roaming/

        Can you tell me what it is this wants from me? or where I can find the driver?

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        Windows automaticaly installs a driver when attaching a new hardware. In this case an iPhone, unless you have blocked in GPEdit driver updates.

        How To Install iPhone Drivers In Windows 10

        Try Method 2 Device Manager.

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        • #2265082 Reply
          DriftyDonN
          AskWoody Plus

          hello again…..device mgr say best driver installed! I havent patched w/ may cu from msft yet and am paused til mid june… I will search (NEVER Google)

          Interesting, device mgr lists

          Thanks

          Sorry I missed the path you posted for your backups clearly showed what they look like…mine are just not in the same location!

          Manual backup today is …….in the ether…

          Many Thanks

          "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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      • #2265069 Reply
        DriftyDonN
        AskWoody Plus

        I found the backup from last night BUT no backup from today- I have sync OFF Is it necessary to be on? For OS upgrades?

        I manually BU about an hr ago but never get a chance to select where. Just PC . Cloud is off.

        I Appreciate the help…..frustrated.

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        "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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          PKCano
          Da Boss

          If you are going to sync it to your PC, I should think sync would need to be on. Be sure the selection button is not checked by “Sync to iCloud.”

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          • #2265086 Reply
            DriftyDonN
            AskWoody Plus

            For some reason I never equated synchronizing 2 devices to backing up one to another. I guess, if you are correct, then it wouldn’t work for dl of OS upgrade/update.

            "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

      • #2265220 Reply
        Nathan Parker
        AskWoody_MVP

        Also to remind people,

        iTunes is available for Windows and macOS through Mojave.

        macOS Catalina and later uses the Finder (plug in iPhone and look for it in Finder) to accomplish the same tasks.

        Nathan Parker

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      • #2265420 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        @DriftyDonN

        New update iTunes 12.10.7.3 x64 : https://www.apple.com/itunes/download/win64

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        • #2265791 Reply
          DriftyDonN
          AskWoody Plus

          Thank you Alex. I installed it last tues 19may. Before the confusion re:backup location. But I want to THANK YOU very much for the consideration!! BTW, since this topic was about updates released, have you heard anything gone awry with IOS update? I mean to say, is t like win10 and their messups? I have not updated yet. In fact I’ve done nothing w/ it for a couple of days now! Busy busy!

          Be Well

          Don

          "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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      • #2266509 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        The apple security updates listing page has been collated with info for iOS, MacOS etc.
        https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
        Usually research and wait for documentation prior to updating.

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      • #2266731 Reply
        Myst
        AskWoody Plus

        Other than the Bluetooth vulnerability Nathan was talking about recently, iOS 13.5 seems to be working great for the iPad and iPhone. Read where Apple will no doubt be rolling out a fix for the Bluetooth issue in the not so distant future. Just have it set to Off when the device is out and about.

        I noticed the battery isn’t draining as quickly as it was with the last two iPadOS updates. iPhone battery usage has been holding together well also, which hasn’t been a problem in the past for my iPhone 8 Plus. As time goes on there might be a change of tune, but so far I’m happy with the new update.

        Win7 SP1 Home x64, lone wolf and free as a bird, MacOS / Chromebook

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        • #2266907 Reply
          DriftyDonN
          AskWoody Plus

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          Just dl’d and updated thru itunes on PC. Seems painless so far (smile) Hope it stays that way! Curiously I backed up before and after , and have the AFTER backup file on C. Before file is in the ether. I neglected to screensnip before so ….no visual. Just my word.

          I did copy the before file to an external SSD tho so I do have it. Wouldn’t if I didnt copy it!

          Now hopefully IOS 13.5 will behave and Apple will fix the bugs post haste!

          Be well!

          D

          "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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        Alex5723
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