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    • #1958645 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      From Nathaniel Parker: Apple released iOS 13 for iPhone and iPod Touch on Thursday, as well as watchOS 5 for Series 3 and Series 4 Apple Watch models
      [See the full post at: iOS 13 for iPhone, watchOS 5 Released, Apple Arcade Launches]

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    • #1958711 Reply

      Zathras
      AskWoody Lounger

      You can protect yourself from the bug (until fixed by Apple) by turning off ‘Reply with Message’ in Settings under ‘Touch ID & Passcode’.

       

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    • #1958715 Reply

      ChuckWW
      AskWoody Plus

      My one Apple product is an iPad Mini 2, which is one of the products that’s not moving up to iOS 13. My question is: do I need to be concerned about the lack of future security updates from Apple? I don’t do much on it besides web browsing, email, and a few mainstream apps. I haven’t really seen any articles on the aspects of continuing to use a non-supported device.

      • #1958802 Reply

        AlexEiffel
        AskWoody_MVP

        You are always at risk by using a device that doesn’t receive security updates. I wouldn’t do anything sensitive on it that uses personal information or credentials, contacts, iMessages, emails… But what is the real world risk? It is hard to evaluate. But you can’t predict either how it will be in the future because nothing too bad was out before.

        Vulnerabilities like these are pretty scary:

        iPhone Zero-Days Anchored Watering-Hole Attacks

        Yes, maybe Apple fixed it discreetly after 10 days, but if you were on a device that isn’t supported and now that the world know about this, a situation that leaves you vulnerable while everyone knows about it, I don’t think you would be reassured to know that it was only exploited on a limited number of targets before being brought in the spotlight for all hackers to know.

        Apple’s support policy is why I won’t recommend the latest basic Ipad to anyone after recommending it on other years.

        See :

        Parker: Apple announcements – the Bottom Line

        I told people before to get the Ipad Mini2 knowing it wouldn’t be supported long because it was so cheap the cost per year made sense and it didn’t for the Mini4. So, I said expect 3 years of support and then you will have to buy a new one, but your cost per year will be lower and you will get a better model later. For people with basic needs, it was fine. It is still sad to see a device that still looks brand new having to be put to trash like this after so few years of use.

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        • #1958815 Reply

          ChuckWW
          AskWoody Plus

          I’m exceedingly cautions about my internet activity, so I’m not too worried. At least the apps themselves will continue to be updated, for what that’s worth. The iPad was free, so I’m not ready to rush out and buy another.

    • #1958790 Reply

      AlexEiffel
      AskWoody_MVP

      Why would Apple release IOS13 earlier than expected knowing that there was so many things to fix? IOS12 has been successful and made people more happy after the terrible bugs of IOS11. Apple promised to do better and they did. Why go back again?

      The world can’t wait for IOS13? Would Apple be chastised for delaying because of bugs? It would make them look worse than actually shipping the bugs? Maybe it is because their new phones are on IOS13 already and they can’t support two IOS versions at the same time?

      That shows how Apple need to get better with IOS and security.

      They need to be able to support two IOS major releases at least for a bit. It makes no sense to discontinue security updates for older models while not providing the latest replacement already. I have an Ipad Air that won’t receive security updates. I’m waiting for a possible Ipad Pro replacement rumored to be out this year because right now, no Ipad has the latest A13 gen processors. In the meantime, no security updates for me?

      What about my recent phone that is working great? If I don’t want to go on IOS13 yet to let the bugs be ironed out since it seems to be a much bigger overhaul than IOS12 has been, there is no option. You either live bleeding edge or no security updates. Apple need to fix that if they want to look more professional and business friendly and if they want to show they really care about the privacy of everyone including consumers, because without security, there is not much privacy.

      Also, they need to warn people better that they now run on unsupported devices and the risk they encounter by not receiving security updates. Maybe some customers would not be happy to learn that the Apple Mini 2 they bought 2 years ago and something brand new isn’t supported no more.

    • #1959048 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      You can protect yourself from the bug (until fixed by Apple) by turning off ‘Reply with Message’ in Settings under ‘Touch ID & Passcode’.

       

      You don’t have to protect yourself against this “bug” as you need in addition to iPhone access a least a year on step-dancing lessons in order to be able to “hack” this “bug”

    • #1959127 Reply

      EP
      AskWoody_MVP

      OH NO, Do NOT install nor upgrade to iOS13!

      Bogdan Popa of Softpedia news has recently reported this:
      https://news.softpedia.com/news/do-not-install-ios-13-united-states-department-of-defense-says-527485.shtml

      wait for iOS 13.1 instead

      anyway I don’t need this new iOS version since my iPhone 5s can not use it; iOS v13 requires iPhone 6s or newer

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    • #1959231 Reply

      jayinalaska
      AskWoody Plus

      I installed IOS 13 on my iPhone XR last night as well as WatchOS 6 on my Apple Watch 4. So far, no issues to report. Both devices working normally.

      I think each install took about 20 minutes.

    • #1959396 Reply

      Nathan Parker
      AskWoody_MVP

      I do recommend waiting until iOS 13.1 (I’m actually waiting until October so I can upgrade my Mac to Catalina when I upgrade my iOS devices so everything syncs well with the changes).

      In terms of security updates, I have seen Apple release security updates for older iOS releases (they recently did it for 9 and 10), so it’s possible if it’s a major issue that arises, Apple could patch it in 12.

      My mother’s iPad is stuck on 12, but she keeps it in her house and just uses it for online shopping (and she sends me the stuff to finalize the orders), so I’m not worried about security updates moving forward. Once her iPad dies (it’s wearing out), she’ll get my iPad Pro and I’ll get a new iPad Pro.

      Nathan Parker

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      • #1959490 Reply

        willygirl
        AskWoody Plus

        Nathan, I agree to wait for iOS 13.1. On another note, my name posted twice on the “thanks” button to your comment, s’pose it took me literally when I say “many thanks” for all your advice and feedback. Can one of the “bosses” or you as an MVP take one off? Appreciate it.

        Win7 SP1 Home 64-bit, GrpA

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        • #1959626 Reply

          woody
          Da Boss

          I don’t know how to take one off – and I have no idea how it got there in the first place!

          Weird.

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          • #1959778 Reply

            willygirl
            AskWoody Plus

            Yeah Woody it’s really strange. I tapped the first time waiting for it to show up, then hit “thanks” again thinking maybe it just didn’t register.  Could be as the first was finally processed the second simultaneously placed at the exact same time. Oh well, Nathan deserves the double note of appreciation and thensone.

            Win7 SP1 Home 64-bit, GrpA

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            • #1960516 Reply

              EP
              AskWoody_MVP

              still woody, users should treat iOS 13 like a new Win10 feature update that just came out

              wait until it is automatically delivered to compatible iphone & ipod touch devices rather than manually checking for it thru apples software updates; no need to rush out and install it since a 13.1 release is coming next week or by the end of the month

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            • #1960772 Reply

              willygirl
              AskWoody Plus

              @ep – The crazy fluke with the “Thanks” double posting by me for Nathan’s comment was unrelated to iOS 13. This freak occurrence happened when I was on my PC. I do agree with you and Nathan it’s best to wait for iOS 13.1.

              Win7 SP1 Home 64-bit, GrpA

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