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      • #2296715 Reply
        J9438
        AskWoody Plus

        I have a 2 month old Apple iPhone SE with IOS 13.6.1. Last night at midnight 9/15/2020 (according to the Battery Activity app) the Apple factory clock app used 97% of the battery (at once) and left me with a dead phone. Fortunately (other than sleeping an hour late due to no alarm) it recharged okay. I have not updated to IOS 13.7.  Anyone else have this problem? Thanks in advance.

      • #2296821 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Apple clock uses less than 1% of battery unless Stopwatch or Timer were activated by mistake.

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      • #2296855 Reply
        Rick Corbett
        AskWoody_MVP

        I can’t duplicate this with my iPhone SE2, even with a long (haptic) press on the built-in Phone app.

        However, it was quite adamant it was going to update itself yesterday to iOS 13.7. So I updated manually via iTunes.

        And now it tells me that it wants to update itself to iOS 14.

        I’m beginning to get the idea that my phone is now attempting to control me rather than the other way around. :}

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        • #2296861 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          I would hold off updating to iOS 14 until we get the thumbs up. Especially with it being a major update.

          Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

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          • #2297079 Reply
            Alex5723
            AskWoody Plus

            I was running all iOS 14 8 betas and now on DEV GM with 0 problems, bugs…

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            • #2297542 Reply
              Bill C.
              AskWoody Plus

              I have updated (after saying I was at DefCon 2), and I have no issues that I can directly relate to the update.

              My only complaints are the new applets are not really a big wow, and in fact the calendar one is a bust as it does not list upcoming events unless it is on the day of the event. The previous iteration did list appointments for a few days out or by the week. I cannot find a setting for that.

              Translate is nice (and way more accurate than Siri is with voice dictation), but I cannot delete test translations.

              It seems more peppy on my iPhone SE (Gen 1) for the apps I actually use. Safari on iPhone still is my lead contender for worst browser.

              Plus, as I was typing, I just saw you (Alex5723), has posted a link to the new features. Yeah!!! My next step.

              BTW, iPadOS 14 is very nice.

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      • #2296887 Reply
        Rick Corbett
        AskWoody_MVP

        I would hold off updating to iOS 14 until we get the thumbs up. Especially with it being a major update.

        Oopsie… 🙂

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        • #2296892 Reply
          Myst
          AskWoody Plus

          Well, then let us know how your SE is doing with the iOS 14 update. 🤷🏻‍♀️I’m sure you’ll be fine.

          Win7 Home x64 MacOS Chromebook

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      • #2296895 Reply
        Rick Corbett
        AskWoody_MVP

        Hmmm… very, very slow backing up. Much slower than normal. (No, I’m not backing up to iCloud. Tried it once and it took hours… and a restore took almost the rest of the day. I’ll never, ever be repeating that.)

        Apologies… this is off-topic. I’ll create a new one.

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      • #2297029 Reply
        J9438
        AskWoody Plus
        1. Regarding clock wiping battery: It appears a new function was added – “Bedtime” that has extra features. Ok that it added features but why did not Apple at least advise of the app update or offer a “download” now option before running down my battery?
        2. I am still unhappy with Apple that forces IOS updates to use WIFI instead of cell service.  Some people do not have access to WIFI.
        3. I am still unhappy with Apple that you cannot download a PDF copy of the iPhone SE user manual so you can read it Offline without using bandwidth. Yes you can read it on your tiny phone screen or if you have Apple TV. Nevertheless the manual does not have an index or search so very hard to find answer to a specific function. For example, I accidently discovered that the calculator app that is a simple calculator in portrait mode suddenly becomes a scientific calculator with all sorts of function if you move the phone to landscape mode. I do not see that in the manual.
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        • #2297083 Reply
          Alex5723
          AskWoody Plus

          ‘Bedtime is a build-in feature not a stand alone app so nothing to doenload.

          You are not forced to use wi-fi for updates. Connect you device to a PC and use iTunes.

          You can download a PDF copy of any Apple device on Apple’s user guide site.

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        • #2297246 Reply
          Rick Corbett
          AskWoody_MVP

          I am still unhappy with Apple that forces IOS updates to use WIFI instead of cell service. Some people do not have access to WIFI.

          Umm… Thank you, Apple. An ‘iOS upgrade’ download over cell service would put me so much over my mobile phone provider’s data allowance it would *seriously* affect my budget.

          Just saying…

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      • #2297266 Reply
        J9438
        AskWoody Plus

        In reply to Alex: Thanks for the extra info. I would mention also. 1) I do not know how but the “Bedtime” was not on my phone before the battery drain and suddenly appeared the next morning when I recharged. Maybe I am going crazy!!  2) Again I don’t know why but my phone IOS update says I have to connect to WIFI.  A friend of mine that has a new Samsung says she has the same requirement and has no WIFI. I googled this and found articles that say the phone providers do not want these kinds of updates on the cell service. (Then why do they offer unlimited data plans??) Apparently this is only on the new phones coming out recently. I have not used ITunes and really do not want it, especially if it is a subscription service. 3) I called Apple support and the tech was really great and spent 30 minutes on the phone with me and could not find a way to download a PDF copy. The copy on the Apple support site is a page by page Web display that requires internet connection to display each page. This may be because my phone is new. Older devices probably did have a downloadable copy.

        Reply to Rick: Yes, if you have low cell data but are fortunate enough to have a landline WIFI no problem, but some of my fiends have only a cell phone (with unlimited data) and would have to go to insecure public WIFI to get updates or risk not updating – not a good situation for them.

        Thanks to all. Great to be able to discuss and solve all these problems!!

        • #2297550 Reply
          Bill C.
          AskWoody Plus

          Bedtime has been part of the “Clock” application since I bought my iPhone SE in 2016. It was one of the options like ‘timer’, ‘stopwatch’, ‘alarms’ and ‘world clock’

          I never used it, but I once left a ‘Stopwatch’ running in the background and did see a significant drain. I found “Handoff” if left active also drains the battery.

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      • #2297452 Reply
        Paul T
        AskWoody MVP

        A friend of mine that has a new Samsung says she has the same requirement and has no WIFI. I googled this and found articles that say the phone providers do not want these kinds of updates on the cell service

        This will be in response to people complaining about excess data bills – phone services want you to use data and pay for it.

        would have to go to insecure public WIFI to get updates or risk not updating

        Updating your phone software via public wifi is not a security risk.
        The phone manages the connection to the manufacturer’s site and any attempt by hackers to change that will cause the update to fail.

        cheers, Paul

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      • #2297466 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        I do not know how but the “Bedtime” was not on my phone before the battery drain and suddenly appeared the next morning when I recharged.

        Bedtime feature was introduced in iOS 12, nothing new.

        I have not used iTunes and really do not want it, especially if it is a subscription service.

        iTunes isn’t a subscription software. iTunes sync your data, backups your iPhone to iCloud and to your PC, copies photos, copies files to your iPhone…and much more.
        It is a free software.

        iTunes 12.10.9.3 released

        • This reply was modified 6 days, 11 hours ago by Alex5723.
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      • #2297474 Reply
        J9438
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks Alex and Paul for the info.  My mistake on couple things. 1) I pulled up apps/books/manual on my iPhone and (painstakingly) scrolled through the tiny, tiny 4×7 screen and did find both the scientific calculator and bedtime explained in the manual. Perhaps if a PDF download to a full screen PC had been available (as is the case in almost every product from a refrigerator to a toaster) or if I had Apple TV, I might have not made this error. 2) I still do not understand why the clock killed my battery. The settings/battery/activity monitor clearly showed a huge spike in clock activity at midnight and the activity list showed clock usage at 97 percent. Oh well. 3) I had not used iTunes so not aware of all its use as Alex explained. Again my bad! 4) On public WIFI I guess I have always been influenced by many warnings from Web sites not trust public WIFI but perhaps phone updates are more secure as Paul explained.  I will say it was lot easier on my old Galaxy to just open the phone and click update and get the update with cell service instead of having to seek out WIFI. On my new phone when I click update and under the Download and Install it clearly states “this update requires a WIFI network connection to download”. Oh well.

        Thanks again to all. AskWoody is a great website!!!! And so are his Dummy books, of which I have several!

        • This reply was modified 6 days, 8 hours ago by J9438.
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      • #2297495 Reply
        Rick Corbett
        AskWoody_MVP

        Perhaps if a PDF download to a full screen PC had been available

        Try https://support.apple.com/manuals

        To me the biggest advantage of using iTunes on my PC is that, if necessary, I can restore my iPhone within minutes. Restoring over-the-air from an iCloud backup not only requires Wi-Fi but also takes forever.

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      • #2297567 Reply
        Nathan Parker
        AskWoody_MVP

        Bedtime is built into the Clock app (it’s built into iOS). Open the clock app and see if it somehow became enabled. If it did, just disable it. I use it to wake me up in the morning, and I’ve never seen a hit on my battery.

        All Apple manuals are also on Apple Books and can be read across Apple devices in Apple Books.

        Nathan Parker

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      • #2298071 Reply
        J9438
        AskWoody Plus

        Why does Apple not want you to use any other medium for their user manuals? (Disclaimer – this is my first entry into Apple products).  Their online only Web manual says you can USB to attach your phone to your Win PC and sync everything to your PC. After more painful research I finally found that you have to download iTunes from Microsoft Store to your PC. Then Microsoft had to get a driver which at first was blocked by Metered On (which we use to stop Microsoft updates). Got past that and finally opened iTunes on Win 10. Then finally found how to sync and drilled down to books (where I had installed on my phone the Apple PDF copy of the user manual). Then I tried to open the manual  and got an error that said you cannot open the manual on Microsoft but must use and IOS device to read the book. Aghhh.

        I know I am being picky but every product we buy has a PDF user manual that can be easily downloaded to a PC and read at leisure in full screen (not 4 by 7 tiny phone screen) OFFLINE, except Apple’s apparently newer products. At least I think the phone itself is great.

        • #2298074 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          After more painful research I finally found that you have to download iTunes from Microsoft Store to your PC.

          This is DEFINITELY NOT where you want to get iTunes. You should get iTunes from Apple. You should uninstall and get rid of the version you downloaded from the MS Store.

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      • #2298133 Reply
        Rick Corbett
        AskWoody_MVP

        This is DEFINITELY NOT where you want to get iTunes. You should get iTunes from Apple. You should uninstall and get rid of the version you downloaded from the MS Store.

        Check the internet for issues about the MS Store version of iTunes.

        The claim is that it’s the same as the version direct from Apple.

        It’s not…

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      • #2298154 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        After more painful research I finally found that you have to download iTunes from Microsoft Store to your PC.

        As already stated by PKCano you don’t download from Microsoft store.
        Look at my post https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/itunes-12-10-9-3-released/
        for direct download links from Apple.

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      • #2298213 Reply
        Rick Corbett
        AskWoody_MVP

        I know I am being picky but every product we buy has a PDF user manual that can be easily downloaded to a PC and read at leisure in full screen (not 4 by 7 tiny phone screen) OFFLINE, except Apple’s apparently newer products.

        Umm… so https://support.apple.com/manuals didn’t work for you?

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        • #2298376 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          @Rick Corbett  No way to download offered . Can you?

        • #2298401 Reply
          J9438
          AskWoody Plus

          Umm… so https://support.apple.com/manuals didn’t work for you?

          It brings up a page with an index into the guide. Then you have to scroll down each individual page, which downloads one page display. It does not add  a PDF file to your PC. It is more like looking through a web site click by click. I think this must be a new thing as it seems the older phones did have a manual where one click would download the guide in a PDF file. May be only for IOS 13. Here is the link I used. https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/welcome/13.0/ios/13.0

      • #2298282 Reply
        Nathan Parker
        AskWoody_MVP

        There are PDF versions of the manuals as Rick mentioned. I prefer the Apple Books versions since I can easily access them from my iOS devices or Mac.

        If all of my Apple devices were to take a hit, I’d resort to the PDF versions, although if that were the case, I’d have more issues to worry about (since my entire home office is based on Apple devices).

        Nathan Parker

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      • #2298337 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Hmmm… very, very slow backing up. Much slower than normal. (No, I’m not backing up to iCloud. Tried it once and it took hours… and a restore took almost the rest of the day. I’ll never, ever be repeating that.)

        Apologies… this is off-topic. I’ll create a new one.

        My iPhone xs max 256gb takes 1 minute to backup to the cloud. Same 1 min. to backup to PC.

      • #2298359 Reply
        J9438
        AskWoody Plus

        PKCANO wrote: This is DEFINITELY NOT where you want to get iTunes. You should get iTunes from Apple. You should uninstall and get rid of the version you downloaded from the MS Store

        Thanks. Very strange though as when I found what to do in the Apple/Support Manual and drilled down to where it told me to download iTunes there were 2 choices – download from Apple or from Microsoft. So naturally I tried Apple first and that link said I could only get it from Microsoft Store so that is why I went to Microsoft. Perhaps this was because I was on a Win 2004 PC??? Anyway since it did not allow me to read the manual I will take your advise and delete Microsoft Store iTunes!!!  Thank goodness for this Web site.

        By the way how do you add those pink xxx wrote quotes to these replies?

        • #2298362 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Click “Reply” button at the top of the reply you want to reply to, to create entry box.
          Go back and highlight what you want to quote.
          Click on the “Quote” button at the bottom of the reply you are quoting.

          The quote will be placed where the cursor is in the entry box.

          https://www.apple.com/il/itunes/download/

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          • #2298398 Reply
            J9438
            AskWoody Plus

            The quote will be placed where the cursor is in the entry box.

            Thanks. No pink yet but maybe when I submit.

          • #2298399 Reply
            J9438
            AskWoody Plus

            https://www.apple.com/il/itunes/download/

            I did exactly this and I got a big display with a box that said “Get it from Microsoft”. That then linked to Microsoft.

            iTunes.
            Now included in macOS Mojave.

            The latest version of iTunes now comes installed with macOS Mojave. Upgrade today to get your favorite music, movies, and podcasts. iTunes is also where you can join Apple Music and stream — or download and play offline — over 50 million songs, ad-free.

            iTunes for Windows

            Link at the box was https://apple.co/ms

            Sorry for all the garbage between the<>. I guess the paste of the images picked that up.

            • This reply was modified 2 days, 3 hours ago by J9438.
            • #2298418 Reply
              Alex5723
              AskWoody Plus

              I did exactly this and I got a big display with a box that said “Get it from Microsoft”. That then linked to Microsoft.

              https://www.apple.com/itunes/

              You should scroll to the bottom of the page and select Windows and you’ll get direct download links.

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            • #2298428 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              You have to click on the “windows” link.

              Screen-Shot-2020-09-23-at-1.02.23-PM

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              • #2298437 Reply
                Alex5723
                AskWoody Plus

                Doesn’t work with Windows 10 and Chrome.

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              • #2298442 Reply
                Microfix
                AskWoody MVP

                @J9438 try using a browser useragent extension and select a different OS and browser.
                If unsuccessful, start a new topic please.

                Win8.1 Pro | Linux Hybrids | Win7 Pro O/L | WinXP O/L
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      • #2298445 Reply
        Michael Austin
        AskWoody Plus

        I’ve not read this whole thread carerfully. But when I had a not dissimilar problem on an iPhone 7 running an unwilling change from 12.x to 13.x, I searched the web and found that resetting the phone’s network settings solved my battery drain problem. It shouldn’t have worked. But it did 🙂

        Finance, social and tech founder. My new, planet-wide talk show, Casual Saints, is happening.

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