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    Home Forums AskWoody support Windows Windows 10 Windows 10 version 1909 – November 2019 Update Is it safe to Install KB4497165 (Intel Microcode)?

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      • #2171913 Reply
        barcud
        AskWoody Plus

        I’ve just been offered KB4497165, so have ‘hidden’ it.

        But, is it actually safe to install?

      • #2171914 Reply
        Paul T
        AskWoody MVP

        See this post and follow ups.

        cheers, Paul

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        • #2172192 Reply
          barcud
          AskWoody Plus

          @Paul_T, I’ve posted on the post link you gave.

          J

           

      • #2264295 Reply
        gamezenchill
        AskWoody Lounger

        I’ve been offered this update which downloads automatically upon clicking the check for updates button.

        The Microsoft support page doesn’t show any information about a revision or update for my CPU which is an Ivy Bridge 3rd gen.
        (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4497165/kb4497165-intel-microcode-updates)

        Hoping this update doesn’t break something, as it’s already installed and I’m about to restart. Wish me luck

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      • #2264788 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        This update is included only intel processor microcode for the respective intel processor models.

        But the OEM manufacturers already released the Bios firmware update which includes microcode.

        • #2266431 Reply
          EP
          AskWoody_MVP

          though many OEMs have already released updated Microcode for 3rd gen Intel core CPUs and greater.

          I had to install the KB4497165 update on my machines that have Sandy Bridge (2nd gen Intel core) or older cpus because that update covers it – no updated bios/firmware will have the new microcodes for Sandy Bridge & earlier due to the old age of the PCs which are no longer supported by many OEMs

          • This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by EP.
      • #2265118 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        This update caused several programs to crash – all Random Salad games, and Polderbits. Uninstalling caused iCloud to crash. So I recommend that you do not install this update.

      • #2265298 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        My system has been down from last 2 days and had to do fresh installation and disable updates

        • #2265302 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          There’s not much helpful information in your post.
          Can you give us a description of your system?
          What version and Edition of Windows are you running?
          Did you install updates? Did you specifically install KB4497165 (Intel Microcode)?
          Did you get any error messages?

      • #2265978 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Rebooted and seems ok on my PC:

        MSI Z270 Gaming Plus (MS-7A75)

        Intel G4560

        Win10 1909

      • #2266411 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        does anybody experience after restart and installed the update your antivirus automatically uninstalled. and got a bugged windows security

        • #2266424 Reply
          EP
          AskWoody_MVP

          nope – KB4497165 installed on all my computers (whether Intel or AMD cpu) and found no problems with it.

          edit – btw, I’m using older PCs with either 2nd gen Intel core cpus [aka Sandy Bridge or older] or AMD Socket AM2+/AM3 cpus like AMD Phenom II X4s

          • This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by EP.
      • #2266422 Reply
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        @Paul_T, I’ve posted on the post link you gave.

        J

         

        it depends on what kind of computer are you using and what CPU you have on that computer, barcud

      • #2270592 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Just installed it and it seems fine on my laptop.

      • #2273622 Reply
        Kathy Stevens
        AskWoody Plus

        I just checked my Windows 10 update page and noticed that KB4497165 is, “ready to download”.

        I just spent hours using Acronis to recover my C drive after my use of Spydish removed some apps that could not be recovered.

        So, I am concerned about downloading and installing KB4497165 right now.

        I see that KB4497165 contains Intel microcode updates.

        I am using a year old  HP ENVY Desktop – 795-0050.

        The only Intel hardware on the system is a Core i7-8700 processor.  The machine has Windows 10 Pro, version 1903, OS build 18362.836.

        Neither the HP Support Assistant nor Intel® Driver & Support Assistant indicate that an update is needed.

        Do I download and install KB4497165 or is there a way to hold off the installation?

        • #2273624 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          You can use wushowhide to hide it (again).
          But every time they make a revision/change the metadata, it will unhide itself and come through Windows Update again as a new update with the same KB number.
          So if you don’t want it, you will have to keep watching for it.

          FWIW I have not veen installing the microcode updates.

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          • #2273636 Reply
            Kathy Stevens
            AskWoody Plus

            What is the best way to download and install wushowhide?

            I found a download version dated 2017. Is their a newer version out there?

            • #2273638 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              wushowhide doesn’t install. Put it on your desktop and double click on it. Then click on “Advanced” and then uncheck the box to apply changes automatically.

              Click on Hide and it will show you a list of pending/available updates.
              Check the box for the ones you want to hide.

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              • #2273645 Reply
                Kathy Stevens
                AskWoody Plus

                Now I am feeling stupid!

                I put wushowhide on my desktop, clicked it open, clicked Advanced, unchecked the box to apply changes automatically, clicked Hide updates, and then checked the box for KB4497165.

                Then I go to Windows Update and it still shows KB4497165 as “Pending download”

                Am I doing something wrong?

                Or will the KB4497165 update just sit there until I decide to download it?

              • #2273646 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                AKB2000013 will show you what is happening.
                You hide the update, but it doesn’t clear the WU queue until WU checks for updates on its own.

                If you want it sooner than that, you have to clear the queue. But you have to follow that procedure exactly. It works for me every time, but you can’t just fly through it and not follow all the instructions.

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        • #2273625 Reply
          GoneToPlaid
          AskWoody Plus

          Hi Kathy,

          Your CPU is not listed in KB4497165. Hide the update for now.

          Best regards,
          –GTP

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      • #2279937 Reply
        va1der
        AskWoody Plus

        I’m curious why KB4497165 isn’t included on the master patch list?

        • #2279979 Reply
          EP
          AskWoody_MVP

          that does not matter – KB4497165 used to be an “optional” update when first released thru MS Update Catalog only in middle of 2019 and MS decided to push it & make it available thru Windows Update in early 2020

          • #2280305 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            It kind of does matter whether or not it’s on the master list.  I appreciate the information here, but that is the go-to place for people to check patches.  There shouldn’t be a patch available through the update system that’s not on that list.

      • #2279980 Reply
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        What is the best way to download and install wushowhide?

        I found a download version dated 2017. Is their a newer version out there?

        no Kathy – it’s the same wushowhide.diagcab version with the same exact size when first posted back in mid-June 2015 and has not changed as I checked the digital signatures of the wushowhide file myself

        • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 3 days ago by EP.
      • #2280026 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        What is the best way to download and install wushowhide?

        wushowhide is portable, no install needed.

      • #2280942 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Hi just a quick question. I have uninstall feature  updates including win version 1909 sent in March n June 20 including KE 4560960. There are security updates  also  dated March n JUNE 20. SHOULD I ALSO UNINSTALL  the security updates ie KB 4560959, KB 4552152, KB4537759, KB 4541338, n security update for Adobe Flash player? I have an Intel core i3 8th gen on Lenovo idea pad c340. Thank you for your response I have not restarted my laptop yet, awaiting your reply. Thanks again.

        • #2280992 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          KB 4560959, KB 4552152, KB 4541338 are earlier Servicing Stacks. They are probably not uninstallable and should not cause a problem. KB4537759 is Adobe Flash Player update which should be OK to leave installed.

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