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      • #2170258 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        We just got an interesting anonymous post, from someone who may have found a way to Pause Updates in Win10 1903 and 1909 beyond the allowed 35-day lim
        [See the full post at: Is there a way to cheat Pause Update?]

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      • #2170278 Reply
        DriftyDonN
        AskWoody Plus

        Wow! just     wow! went from 29Feb end of pause to another 35 days to choose from! I set for f22mar. Failed to install kb4532693. I didnt check the others but there were 4 or 5 waiting!

        Thank you anonymous

        OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 Home, 64 bit
        ver 1903 bld18362.592 12/9/2019

        DriftyDonN

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      • #2170301 Reply
        Sueska
        AskWoody Plus

        Yes, recently discovered by accident that it is possible to reset Pause updates. In my case using Win 10 pro 1909 had group policy for windows updates (setting 2). Wanted to test the pause update feature for a friend. The following actions cleared pause updates: selected Resume updates, disconnected from the internet, and rebooted. Possibly because I was a little slow, the Feb update partially downloaded. Upon reboot was presented with an error message and a Red Retry button in the windows update setting section. Used wushowhide to hide the Feb update, reconnected to internet and rebooted. The Pause setting was reset and all was back to normal after unhiding the Feb update.

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      • #2170324 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Wonderful trick. This solved a problem I was thinking about when KB 4023057 showed back up for 1803/1809.

        First my system, W10 1903 home with Windows Update set to metered connection.

        My thoughts were what would happen if a patch like KB4023057 showed up when Windows Update was paused. Wouldn’t that patch get automatically installed when WU was resumed and how could you stop it.  Because I am set to metered connection resuming WU gives me a list of downloads with the “download now” option. I had tried several things unsuccessfully to clear that download list until now. Here is what worked.

        Resume Windows Update from paused state.
        Disconnect from the internet.
        Hit the “download now” button. All patches will show download pending.
        Reboot (don’t know if this was necessary)
        Reconnect to the internet.
        Run wushowhide and hide whatever patch you don’t want. In my test I hid all Feb. patches.
        Pause Windows Updates again.
        Resume Windows Updates again and and after it does it’s check no updates show, says I’m up to date.

        A huge Thank You to the anonymous poster that came up with this workaround to extend the pause updates beyond 35 days.

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      • #2170327 Reply
        pcuser
        AskWoody Lounger

        I am using Windows 10 Home. Some years back I also tried Metered connection to bypass or limit Windows updates, and got an unrelated downloading issues, which I can’t remember right now (limitation in download capacity?), because of the specific connection.

      • #2170341 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        The Pro doesn’t need these tricks as updates can be paused indefinitely with GPEdit Windows Update = 2, Notify but don’t install.

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      • #2170358 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Hello. Since updating my Windows 10 HOME laptop from 1803 to 1903 (mainly to get access to the new Pause Updates feature) back on 10/22/19, I have been repeatedly pushing the resume date WAY out.

        My resume date is currently 9/27/2020 – set in early Feb. Before that the resume date was
        3/18/2020 – set in early Jan. Before that the resume date was late Jan – set soon after the
        10/22/19 install of 1903.

        I have not taken ANY Windows updates on the PC since the 10/22/19 update to 1903. Just occasional Windows Defender updates instigated from within Windows Defender. (I use the PC mostly OFFline to run Linux Virtual Machines for a class, but it goes online a little.)

        Windows 10 HOME 64-bit (OEM) 1903 build 18362.418.

        I have never had to wait for an update pause to expire, nor have I ever manually resumed updates (just so as to pause again).

        And I have never used the “Pause updates for 7 more days” button. Instead I always manually select my resume dates from the “pause until” scroll list on the Advanced Options sub-page of the Settings / Updates & Security page.

        Currently, that scroll list is offering me resume dates from “tomorrow” (as always) until Tue
        July 27, 2021. Really!

        I don’t have enough expendable machines to test all the possibilities, but what “seems” to trigger an advance into the future for the offered resume dates is merely going online (for whatever, not windows updates) and then at some subsequent point rebooting. Sometimes after the reboot the range of resume dates in the scroll list stays the same. But other times the range of resume dates push WAY out into the future. Since installing 1903 in late October 2019, I have never been in serious jeopardy of having my pause expire. I always seem to be able to push my resume date out before i get any closer that say 3 weeks from expire. Once I do push out my resume date, it seems that for a while my scheme will NOT work to get the range of offered resume dates to go farther out. But leave it be for say a
        month or so and you can probably then push out farther. (I wonder if a Patch Tuesday has to pass in the intervening time? Just a thought.)

        I wondered early on whether these pause dates (far in excess of the alleged 35 day limit – I am paused since just after 10/22/19, about 123 days so far) would really hold off Windows Update. I suspected maybe a defect in the Windows 10 GUI just showing nonsense dates. But to date Windows Update HAS respected my resume dates. And where does the range of resume dates offered in the Advanced Options / “pause until” scroll list come from? Presumably from MS Windows Update servers. (Surely Windows Update runs periodically in the background even with updates paused.)

        Still I have to wonder if MS will at some point just override my lengthy update pauses, or if a new Windows update (1903 or 1909) will remove this capability – which I figure is probably an oversight.

        Likewise almost identically for three other Windows 10 HOME 64-bit (OEM) laptops at a friend’s office. All 1903, same build, updated to 1903 at about the same time as mine. And these PCs spend quite a lot of time online.

        Note that all the PCs involved here currently use WiFi (not Ethernet) to connect to their modem/router for Internet access and we have the WiFi networks designated as “metered” in Windows 10. (Although I am pretty sure that my PC spent a few days in December on unmetered Ethernet during its first pause period.)

        I started consulting askwoody.com about a year ago just to deal with Windows 10 updates and I have been surprised that nobody has mentioned this lengthy pause capability before. But I suspected that it only applied to HOME (a defect?) and that most askwoody.com regulars had at least PRO, or perhaps MS had already killed the capability in subsequent updates to 1903/1909. But perhaps not.

        Perhaps some exercising of all this is in order by those with a testbed of Windows 10 HOME PCs or VMs?

        I have display images to prove my claims, but I have never posted here before and could find no way to attach the .GIF files. Perhaps anonymous posters can’t attach images, OK. Sorry, the post editor offered no file attach/upload mechanism that I could find, and I could not find a solution on the website. I’ll check this tread again before Monday night.

        I hope the above proves useful. Being able to time Windows 10 updates essentially at will sure is nice!

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        • #2170444 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          Fascinating. I don’t have a clue why you’re offered expiration dates so far out in the future. I’ve never seen it.

          Anybody out there have a guess?

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        • #2170518 Reply
          DriftyDonN
          AskWoody Plus

          Sounds like an easy way to defeat pause. Your instruction to go online, any site except eindoes update, REBOOT. Reboot while on the chosen random site or close browser after logging off site (if logged on).

          Thanks for your info!!

          DriftyDonN

      • #2170361 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Still I have to wonder if MS will at some point just override my lengthy update pauses,

        Yes, it will at the EOL (some months earlier) of 1903 when Microsoft will force update to 1909…

      • #2170416 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Günter Born has posted a confirmation.

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      • #2170432 Reply
        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP

        I actually have similar way, but i only tested it on Pro not Home

        it basically reset the pause settings without having to resume or update
        and it need either “Metered Connection” or GPolicy “WU = 2: Notify but don’t install”

        – download or save the following as .reg file
        https://pastebin.com/hAbgWTEC

        – run command prompt as administrator

        – copy/paste and execute these commands
        net stop usosvc
        net stop wuauserv
        del /f /q “%ProgramData%\USOPrivate\UpdateStore\*”

        – merge the registry file saved earlier

        – reboot

        – after reboot run the following command as administrator
        UsoClient.exe RefreshSettings

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        • #2170448 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          Fascinating. So the countdown clock is stored in \USOPrivate\UpdateStore\ ….

        • #2170466 Reply
          abbodi86
          AskWoody_MVP

          Not particularly
          the pause dates/countdown itself is stored in registry (hence the Unpause.reg file needed)

          \UpdateStore\ holds the database for Windows Update UI in Settings

          so, we revert/remove the pause countdown, and reset the Update UI database
          afterward, you can start pausing from current date up to 35 days later

          in my tests on 1803/1809, resetting \UpdateStore\ database don’t require a reboot to have effect
          but on 1903/1909 it does

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        • #2170468 Reply
          geekdom
          AskWoody Plus

          As a minimalist suggestion, could this command be run from safe mode with no other changes:
          del /f /q “%ProgramData%\USOPrivate\UpdateStore\*”

          G{ot backup} TestBeta
          offline▸ Win7Pro SP1 x64 InUse
          online▸ Win10Pro 1909.18363.752 x64 i5-9400 RAM8GB HDD Firefox75.0 Windows{Image/Defender/Firewall}
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          • #2170475 Reply
            abbodi86
            AskWoody_MVP

            You can run it from WinPE too, or other dual boot system
            but this does not remove the pause settings themselves, you need the registry file

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        • #2172348 Reply
          DriftyDonN
          AskWoody Plus

          Thank You!

          works in both Pro and Home my win10 ver are the same on both .

          OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 Home, 64 bit, Build 18362, Installed 20191207160343.000000-300
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8565U CPU @ 1.80GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 142 Stepping 11, CPU Count: 8
          Total Physical RAM: 12 GB
          Graphics Card: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620, 1024 MB
          Hard Drives: C: 475 GB (442 GB Free);
          Motherboard: WHL Doc_WC, ver V1.07, s/n NBHDG1100292700E507600
          System: Insyde Corp., ver ACRSYS – 2, s/n NXHDGAA00192700E507600
          Antivirus:Bitdefender total Security 2020

          DriftyDonN

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      • #2170481 Reply
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        It’s a step in the right direction. However, a simple procedure from Microsoft is needed to delay or hide updates that doesn’t require multiple user steps with multiple explanations or manual changes to the registry.

        As it stands, all currently generated delay update procedures to date are complicated for the average user and require much explanation.

        G{ot backup} TestBeta
        offline▸ Win7Pro SP1 x64 InUse
        online▸ Win10Pro 1909.18363.752 x64 i5-9400 RAM8GB HDD Firefox75.0 Windows{Image/Defender/Firewall}
        • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by geekdom.
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        • #2170504 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          I agree wholeheartedly, but I expect we’ll see it about the same time that SpaceX lands on Mars.

      • #2170551 Reply
        wavy
        AskWoody Plus

        Interesting FWIW my page looks like this..

        Capture-5I have made some reg and GPO changes…

        on W10PRO 1909 18363.592

        🍻

        Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
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      • #2172950 Reply
        TonyS
        AskWoody Plus

        I’ve had W10 v1903 since new Dell desktop last September, updated to 1909 last year, all essential patches installed up to January, registry/pause settings set as per PKCano advice. Pause ran out today but just to be on the safe side I set connection to metered yesterday. I now see pause updates has been reset i.e. I can pause until 4th April.

        Given Woody’s move to defcon3 I guess my next move is to install Feb updates when they become available

        Win10 1909 Pro, MBAM 3 Premium, PaleMoon, OpenOffice, Sumatra PDF.
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