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      • #2170258 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        We just got an interesting anonymous post, from someone who may have found a way to Pause Updates in Win10 1903 and 1909 beyond the allowed 35-day lim
        [See the full post at: Is there a way to cheat Pause Update?]

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      • #2170278 Reply
        DriftyDonN
        AskWoody Plus

        Wow! just     wow! went from 29Feb end of pause to another 35 days to choose from! I set for f22mar. Failed to install kb4532693. I didnt check the others but there were 4 or 5 waiting!

        Thank you anonymous

        OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 Home, 64 bit
        ver 1903 bld18362.592 12/9/2019

        DriftyDonN

        "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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      • #2170301 Reply
        Sueska
        AskWoody Plus

        Yes, recently discovered by accident that it is possible to reset Pause updates. In my case using Win 10 pro 1909 had group policy for windows updates (setting 2). Wanted to test the pause update feature for a friend. The following actions cleared pause updates: selected Resume updates, disconnected from the internet, and rebooted. Possibly because I was a little slow, the Feb update partially downloaded. Upon reboot was presented with an error message and a Red Retry button in the windows update setting section. Used wushowhide to hide the Feb update, reconnected to internet and rebooted. The Pause setting was reset and all was back to normal after unhiding the Feb update.

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      • #2170324 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Wonderful trick. This solved a problem I was thinking about when KB 4023057 showed back up for 1803/1809.

        First my system, W10 1903 home with Windows Update set to metered connection.

        My thoughts were what would happen if a patch like KB4023057 showed up when Windows Update was paused. Wouldn’t that patch get automatically installed when WU was resumed and how could you stop it.  Because I am set to metered connection resuming WU gives me a list of downloads with the “download now” option. I had tried several things unsuccessfully to clear that download list until now. Here is what worked.

        Resume Windows Update from paused state.
        Disconnect from the internet.
        Hit the “download now” button. All patches will show download pending.
        Reboot (don’t know if this was necessary)
        Reconnect to the internet.
        Run wushowhide and hide whatever patch you don’t want. In my test I hid all Feb. patches.
        Pause Windows Updates again.
        Resume Windows Updates again and and after it does it’s check no updates show, says I’m up to date.

        A huge Thank You to the anonymous poster that came up with this workaround to extend the pause updates beyond 35 days.

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      • #2170327 Reply
        pcuser
        AskWoody Lounger

        I am using Windows 10 Home. Some years back I also tried Metered connection to bypass or limit Windows updates, and got an unrelated downloading issues, which I can’t remember right now (limitation in download capacity?), because of the specific connection.

      • #2170341 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        The Pro doesn’t need these tricks as updates can be paused indefinitely with GPEdit Windows Update = 2, Notify but don’t install.

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      • #2170358 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Hello. Since updating my Windows 10 HOME laptop from 1803 to 1903 (mainly to get access to the new Pause Updates feature) back on 10/22/19, I have been repeatedly pushing the resume date WAY out.

        My resume date is currently 9/27/2020 – set in early Feb. Before that the resume date was
        3/18/2020 – set in early Jan. Before that the resume date was late Jan – set soon after the
        10/22/19 install of 1903.

        I have not taken ANY Windows updates on the PC since the 10/22/19 update to 1903. Just occasional Windows Defender updates instigated from within Windows Defender. (I use the PC mostly OFFline to run Linux Virtual Machines for a class, but it goes online a little.)

        Windows 10 HOME 64-bit (OEM) 1903 build 18362.418.

        I have never had to wait for an update pause to expire, nor have I ever manually resumed updates (just so as to pause again).

        And I have never used the “Pause updates for 7 more days” button. Instead I always manually select my resume dates from the “pause until” scroll list on the Advanced Options sub-page of the Settings / Updates & Security page.

        Currently, that scroll list is offering me resume dates from “tomorrow” (as always) until Tue
        July 27, 2021. Really!

        I don’t have enough expendable machines to test all the possibilities, but what “seems” to trigger an advance into the future for the offered resume dates is merely going online (for whatever, not windows updates) and then at some subsequent point rebooting. Sometimes after the reboot the range of resume dates in the scroll list stays the same. But other times the range of resume dates push WAY out into the future. Since installing 1903 in late October 2019, I have never been in serious jeopardy of having my pause expire. I always seem to be able to push my resume date out before i get any closer that say 3 weeks from expire. Once I do push out my resume date, it seems that for a while my scheme will NOT work to get the range of offered resume dates to go farther out. But leave it be for say a
        month or so and you can probably then push out farther. (I wonder if a Patch Tuesday has to pass in the intervening time? Just a thought.)

        I wondered early on whether these pause dates (far in excess of the alleged 35 day limit – I am paused since just after 10/22/19, about 123 days so far) would really hold off Windows Update. I suspected maybe a defect in the Windows 10 GUI just showing nonsense dates. But to date Windows Update HAS respected my resume dates. And where does the range of resume dates offered in the Advanced Options / “pause until” scroll list come from? Presumably from MS Windows Update servers. (Surely Windows Update runs periodically in the background even with updates paused.)

        Still I have to wonder if MS will at some point just override my lengthy update pauses, or if a new Windows update (1903 or 1909) will remove this capability – which I figure is probably an oversight.

        Likewise almost identically for three other Windows 10 HOME 64-bit (OEM) laptops at a friend’s office. All 1903, same build, updated to 1903 at about the same time as mine. And these PCs spend quite a lot of time online.

        Note that all the PCs involved here currently use WiFi (not Ethernet) to connect to their modem/router for Internet access and we have the WiFi networks designated as “metered” in Windows 10. (Although I am pretty sure that my PC spent a few days in December on unmetered Ethernet during its first pause period.)

        I started consulting askwoody.com about a year ago just to deal with Windows 10 updates and I have been surprised that nobody has mentioned this lengthy pause capability before. But I suspected that it only applied to HOME (a defect?) and that most askwoody.com regulars had at least PRO, or perhaps MS had already killed the capability in subsequent updates to 1903/1909. But perhaps not.

        Perhaps some exercising of all this is in order by those with a testbed of Windows 10 HOME PCs or VMs?

        I have display images to prove my claims, but I have never posted here before and could find no way to attach the .GIF files. Perhaps anonymous posters can’t attach images, OK. Sorry, the post editor offered no file attach/upload mechanism that I could find, and I could not find a solution on the website. I’ll check this tread again before Monday night.

        I hope the above proves useful. Being able to time Windows 10 updates essentially at will sure is nice!

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        • #2170444 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          Fascinating. I don’t have a clue why you’re offered expiration dates so far out in the future. I’ve never seen it.

          Anybody out there have a guess?

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        • #2170518 Reply
          DriftyDonN
          AskWoody Plus

          Sounds like an easy way to defeat pause. Your instruction to go online, any site except eindoes update, REBOOT. Reboot while on the chosen random site or close browser after logging off site (if logged on).

          Thanks for your info!!

          DriftyDonN

          "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

      • #2170361 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Still I have to wonder if MS will at some point just override my lengthy update pauses,

        Yes, it will at the EOL (some months earlier) of 1903 when Microsoft will force update to 1909…

      • #2170416 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Günter Born has posted a confirmation.

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      • #2170432 Reply
        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP

        I actually have similar way, but i only tested it on Pro not Home

        it basically reset the pause settings without having to resume or update
        and it need either “Metered Connection” or GPolicy “WU = 2: Notify but don’t install”

        – download or save the following as .reg file
        https://pastebin.com/hAbgWTEC

        – run command prompt as administrator

        – copy/paste and execute these commands
        net stop usosvc
        net stop wuauserv
        del /f /q “%ProgramData%\USOPrivate\UpdateStore\*”

        – merge the registry file saved earlier

        – reboot

        – after reboot run the following command as administrator
        UsoClient.exe RefreshSettings

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        • #2170448 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          Fascinating. So the countdown clock is stored in \USOPrivate\UpdateStore\ ….

        • #2170466 Reply
          abbodi86
          AskWoody_MVP

          Not particularly
          the pause dates/countdown itself is stored in registry (hence the Unpause.reg file needed)

          \UpdateStore\ holds the database for Windows Update UI in Settings

          so, we revert/remove the pause countdown, and reset the Update UI database
          afterward, you can start pausing from current date up to 35 days later

          in my tests on 1803/1809, resetting \UpdateStore\ database don’t require a reboot to have effect
          but on 1903/1909 it does

          • This reply was modified 3 months ago by abbodi86.
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        • #2170468 Reply
          geekdom
          AskWoody Plus

          As a minimalist suggestion, could this command be run from safe mode with no other changes:
          del /f /q “%ProgramData%\USOPrivate\UpdateStore\*”

          G{ot backup} TestBeta
          offline▸ Win7Pro SP1 x64 Storage
          online▸ Win10Pro 1909.18363.836 x64 i5-9400 RAM8GB HDD Firefox77.0b9 Windows{Image/Defender/Firewall}
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          • #2170475 Reply
            abbodi86
            AskWoody_MVP

            You can run it from WinPE too, or other dual boot system
            but this does not remove the pause settings themselves, you need the registry file

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        • #2172348 Reply
          DriftyDonN
          AskWoody Plus

          Thank You!

          works in both Pro and Home my win10 ver are the same on both .

          OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 Home, 64 bit, Build 18362, Installed 20191207160343.000000-300
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8565U CPU @ 1.80GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 142 Stepping 11, CPU Count: 8
          Total Physical RAM: 12 GB
          Graphics Card: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620, 1024 MB
          Hard Drives: C: 475 GB (442 GB Free);
          Motherboard: WHL Doc_WC, ver V1.07, s/n NBHDG1100292700E507600
          System: Insyde Corp., ver ACRSYS – 2, s/n NXHDGAA00192700E507600
          Antivirus:Bitdefender total Security 2020

          DriftyDonN

          "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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      • #2170481 Reply
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        It’s a step in the right direction. However, a simple procedure from Microsoft is needed to delay or hide updates that doesn’t require multiple user steps with multiple explanations or manual changes to the registry.

        As it stands, all currently generated delay update procedures to date are complicated for the average user and require much explanation.

        G{ot backup} TestBeta
        offline▸ Win7Pro SP1 x64 Storage
        online▸ Win10Pro 1909.18363.836 x64 i5-9400 RAM8GB HDD Firefox77.0b9 Windows{Image/Defender/Firewall}
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        • #2170504 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          I agree wholeheartedly, but I expect we’ll see it about the same time that SpaceX lands on Mars.

      • #2170551 Reply
        wavy
        AskWoody Plus

        Interesting FWIW my page looks like this..

        Capture-5I have made some reg and GPO changes…

        on W10PRO 1909 18363.592

        🍻

        Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
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      • #2172950 Reply
        TonyS
        AskWoody Plus

        I’ve had W10 v1903 since new Dell desktop last September, updated to 1909 last year, all essential patches installed up to January, registry/pause settings set as per PKCano advice. Pause ran out today but just to be on the safe side I set connection to metered yesterday. I now see pause updates has been reset i.e. I can pause until 4th April.

        Given Woody’s move to defcon3 I guess my next move is to install Feb updates when they become available

        Win10 1909 Pro, MBAM Premium, PaleMoon, OpenOffice, Sumatra PDF.
        • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by TonyS.
        • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by TonyS.
      • #2257722 Reply
        mixer
        AskWoody Lounger

        Still works.

        Windows 10 x64 Home 1909

        1. Select “Download Updates over Metered Connection…..”
        2. Turn off internet connection (I just clicked Airplane Mode)
        3. Click “Resume Updates”
        4. You’ll get an error
        5. Change your “Pause Updates” date
        6. Enable the internet.
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      • #2258143 Reply
        MWmC
        AskWoody Plus

        1 May and it still works for Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. I just followed the same sequence as mixer did on 29 April, and it works. Updates are now paused for me until 5 June. I’m very grateful to the original poster of this bit of cleverness, and to everyone who has tested it.

      • #2259251 Reply
        analogkid
        AskWoody Plus

        WOO HOO!!!!

        Thank you, thank you, thank you mixer. Your super easy step-by-step instructions enabled me to change the date to June 3.

        I had pushed the date as far as I could which for me was this Wednesday the 6th.

        Thanks again!!

        "An analog kid in a digital world"

        Win7 Ultimate home built desktop Running 0patch Pro

        Win 8.1 desktop and two 8.1 laptops

        Win 10 Dell desktop (took the plunge)

        and two very old home built Win XP desktops (offline for use with an old Epsom Photo scanner)

      • #2259294 Reply
        CADesertRat
        AskWoody Plus

        I just did it today to pause updates on all my computers til 6/8/2020.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        4 Win 10 Pro at 1909 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #2259960 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Worked for me too!  I followed Mixer’s list on my Win 10 Home v1909 x64 laptop, the only difference was at step 3, I got ‘Retry’ and an error message rather than ‘Resume’.

        1. Select “Download Updates over Metered Connection…..”
        2. Turn off internet connection (I also just clicked Airplane Mode)
        3. Click “Resume Updates” (I got ‘Retry’ with the error message)
        4. You’ll get an error
        5. Change your “Pause Updates” date (I got out to June 9, 2020)
        6. Enable the internet.

        The “Resume updates” button showed up AFTER enabling wifi.  And it shows the status as being pauseduntil June 9,2020.

        I did this after manually updating with the April SSU (KB 4552152) and CU (KB 4549951) because my paused updates were ending tomorrow (May 6).  So far no issues are apparent with the April updates.

        • #2259969 Reply
          CADesertRat
          AskWoody Plus

          I got ‘Retry’ and an error message rather than ‘Resume’.

          Same here, but I just Paused away to 6/8/2020 LOL.

          Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
          4 Win 10 Pro at 1909 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #2259996 Reply
        DriftyDonN
        AskWoody Plus

        I’m not certain who gave us this but it works on both Pro and Home. Thank you wwherever you might be!!!

        ____________________________________________________________

        it basically resets the pause settings without having to resume or update
        and it need either “Metered Connection” or GPolicy “WU = 2: Notify but don’t install”

        – download or save the following as .reg file
        https://pastebin.com/hAbgWTEC

        – run command prompt as administrator

        – copy/paste and execute these commands
        net stop usosvc
        net stop wuauserv
        del /f /q “%ProgramData%\USOPrivate\UpdateStore\*”

        – merge the registry file saved earlier

        – reboot

        – after reboot run the following command as administrator
        UsoClient.exe RefreshSettings

        "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

        • #2260305 Reply
          CADesertRat
          AskWoody Plus

          – download or save the following as .reg file https://pastebin.com/hAbgWTEC – run command prompt as administrator – copy/paste and execute these commands net stop usosvc net stop wuauserv del /f /q “%ProgramData%\USOPrivate\UpdateStore\*” – merge the registry file saved earlier – reboot – after reboot run the following command as administrator UsoClient.exe RefreshSettings

          I’m sure that probably works but it’s a lot faster/less complicated to just unplug the ethernet cable, turn off WiFi and resume Updates then re-pause IMHO.

          Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
          4 Win 10 Pro at 1909 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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          • #2260362 Reply
            DriftyDonN
            AskWoody Plus

            Mebbe you are right. Its also quicker to stop a car by jamming it into reverse going down hill . Seriously th, I just dont like the feeling of of just disconnecting in the middle of an operation- somethings bound to go screwy. I feel more in control.

            But to each his own

            ..Best thing is it works either way and we are not at the mercy of oz!

            "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

      • #2260254 Reply
        analogkid
        AskWoody Plus

        Ooops, I forgot to install the April updates before initiating the pause. My last installed update was the March CU KB4551762 that I installed April 1st when askwoody went to DEFCON 3.

        At this point should I just skip April wait and install the May updates when the DEFCON number goes up?

        "An analog kid in a digital world"

        Win7 Ultimate home built desktop Running 0patch Pro

        Win 8.1 desktop and two 8.1 laptops

        Win 10 Dell desktop (took the plunge)

        and two very old home built Win XP desktops (offline for use with an old Epsom Photo scanner)

        • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 4 days ago by analogkid.
        • #2260267 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          The April patches are still under DEFCON-2. They haven’t been approved yet.
          You can end Pause when Woody gives the go-ahead.

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      • #2260632 Reply
        analogkid
        AskWoody Plus

        I followed the sage advice of PKCano (thank you) and just went ahead and installed the April patches for my Win 10 desktop. I hit the Resume button and was  offered three updates:

        Cumulative Update KB4549951

        Malicious Software Removal Tool KB890830

        and the optional CU preview KB4550945.

        I installed the first two, ignored the third.

        Then I paused the updates again until June 3rd.

        My question is this: on the Master Patch List I see SSU KB4552152 which it says to install first.

        However I was not offered that particular update and I didn’t see the master patch list until after I installed the other  two.

        Should I install it now directly from the Microsoft update catalog?

        I should mention that my pc has version 1909 OS build 18363.778

         

        Thank you 🙂

        "An analog kid in a digital world"

        Win7 Ultimate home built desktop Running 0patch Pro

        Win 8.1 desktop and two 8.1 laptops

        Win 10 Dell desktop (took the plunge)

        and two very old home built Win XP desktops (offline for use with an old Epsom Photo scanner)

        • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 3 days ago by analogkid.
        • #2260637 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          The SSUs are bundled with the monthly CUs on Patch Tuesday if a new one is available.
          The SSUs do not show up in the Windows Update queue as pending.
          They do not show up in “View Update History”
          But they ARE installed silently along with the monthly CUs.

          If you want verification KB4552152 is installed, look in “Installed Updates” either in:
          Control Panel\Programs and Features\View installed updates
          OR
          Settings\Updates & security\Windows Update\Uninstall updates

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          • #2260640 Reply
            analogkid
            AskWoody Plus

            Yes there it is! I am slowly getting the hang of this Win 10 OS. I am so used to the old way of patching as I still am Group B with my 8.1 pcs.

            Thank you again for your help and patience, you really are Da Boss 🙂

            "An analog kid in a digital world"

            Win7 Ultimate home built desktop Running 0patch Pro

            Win 8.1 desktop and two 8.1 laptops

            Win 10 Dell desktop (took the plunge)

            and two very old home built Win XP desktops (offline for use with an old Epsom Photo scanner)

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