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      • #2295168 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        It’s time to think about socking away a copy of the v2004 ISO for a rainy day. Once version 20H2 is released, the ISO for Win10 v2004 will no longer b
        [See the full post at: It’s time to be thinking about saving a copy of Win10 v2004]

      • #2295170 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        In the event you want to install v2004 instead in the future, you should download the ISO soon and store it in a safe place.

        There is always Heidoc.net to the rescue 🙂

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        • #2295272 Reply
          ECWS
          AskWoody Plus

          Considering upgrading from Windows 7 Pro to Windows 10.  I saved a copy of 1909 from heidoc but still have not upgraded since I have to figure out how to make a disk image of the computer before starting the upgrade.

          Now that 2004 is out should I just use the Media Creation tool to upgrade?

          Will this tool save a copy of Windows 7 so I can go back if it does not work?

          • #2295274 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            First thing, make the full disk image and a separate file backup of your data. Without that you risk losing everything.

            v2004 still has problems. It would be better to install v1909. You will need to download the ISO from Heidoc.net.

            The upgrade will allow rollback to the previous version (Win7) for a maximum 10 days only. The caveat is, sometimes it doesn’t work right. That is why you need the full disk image and the data backup.

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            • #2295278 Reply
              ECWS
              AskWoody Plus

              Thanks.

              Suggestion for best software to learn and use for Disk Image?

              Also – best place to get a Portable Hard Drive? Hard Drive (SSD) is 250GB

              • #2295280 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                There is are two ongoing discussions here and here about the best backup software – read through those. Macrium Reflect and EaseUS Todo both have a free version. You can also look in the Tools Forum.

                You can get an external USB HDD and any computer store. You will probably need 1-2TB for your backups.

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        • #2296091 Reply
          dmt_3904
          AskWoody Plus

          What is Heidoc.net?

      • #2295172 Reply
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        In the event you want to install v2004 instead in the future, you should download the ISO soon and store it in a safe place.

        There is always Heidoc.net to the rescue 🙂

        Does heidoc.net offer the most recent image build with integrated fixes or the initial RTM?

        Win8.1 Pro | Linux Hybrids | Win7 Pro O/L | WinXP O/L
        • #2295359 Reply
          georgea
          AskWoody Lounger

          No, just the normal releases you would have got via the MS download tool.  But with the cumulative update model, it’s not a big deal to get current.  And yes, heidoc.net is a wonderful resource!!!

          I can’t believe we’re talking about yet another W10 release version while the newest version is just now starting to be stable enough to think about…

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          • #2295363 Reply
            doriel
            AskWoody Lounger

            I can’t believe we’re talking about yet another W10 release version while the newest version is just now starting to be stable enough to think about…

            Lowering the release cadence would be nice. Otherwise this circus does not seem to have a happy ending.

            Backup, backup, backup. Apart from complete system image, I like to keep my personal data (music, videos, contracts, documents, game saves, ..) on a separate external drive with FAT32 filesystem. It makes my backup available across all operating systems no matter their version is..

            Dell Latitude E6530, Intel Core i5 @ 2.6 GHz, 4GB RAM, W10 1809 Enterprise

            HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

      • #2295196 Reply
        bbearren
        AskWoody MVP

        1. I’ll be upgrading as soon as it becomes available.

        2. I have multiple offline drive images of my current Windows 10 Pro 2004 as well as all six of my SSD’s.  I won’t be needing installation media.

        Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
        "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
        "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

        • #2295223 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          > I won’t be needing installation media.

          Wow, ok, assume you know best, but…
          given all you know about Windows systems, seems hard to believe you’ve never been asked to help a friend or family member or colleague with a misbehaving Windows box.

          • #2295236 Reply
            bbearren
            AskWoody MVP

            > I won’t be needing installation media. Wow, ok, assume you know best, but… given all you know about Windows systems, seems hard to believe you’ve never been asked to help a friend or family member or colleague with a misbehaving Windows box.

            Many, many times, but I don’t need installation media to accomplish that sort of help.  I have other tools on a USB thumb drive (including Windows Recovery Environment) that can get the job done.

            Which is not to say that I don’t already have 2004 Pro installation media.  Every upgrade I’ve done has been with a MCT USB thumb drive, not through Windows Update.  As soon as the MCT for the next version of 2004 is made available, I’ll be re-using that same thumb drive to download the new version and running an in-place upgrade with it.

            I don’t need to save the older version installation media, because I have multiple copies of the fully updated installation itself that can be restored faster than a clean install can be performed.  It’s all part of being prepared, belt and suspenders plus an extra belt.

            Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
            "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
            "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

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      • #2295233 Reply
        CADesertRat
        AskWoody Plus

        Just downloaded 2004 to a USB. Info from current download:

        Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
        Version: 10.0.18362.900

        Details for image : F:\sources\install.esd

        Index : 1
        Name : Windows 10 Home
        Description : Windows 10 Home
        Size : 14,321,196,908 bytes
        WIM Bootable : No
        Architecture : x64
        Hal : <undefined>
        Version : 10.0.19041
        ServicePack Build : 450
        ServicePack Level : 0
        Edition : Core
        Installation : Client
        ProductType : WinNT
        ProductSuite : Terminal Server
        System Root : WINDOWS
        Directories : 21738
        Files : 91328
        Created : 8/8/2020 – 1:30:35 AM
        Modified : 9/9/2020 – 2:06:02 PM
        Languages :
        en-US (Default)

        The operation completed successfully.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        4 Win 10 Pro at 1909 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #2295241 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        FYI, the Media Creation Tool 2004.exe is reported to be offering to download ISO or create USB Media for Windows 10 version 2004 build 19041.450 (Build release on 11 August 2020).

        Re : https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/9230-download-windows-10-iso-file.html

        Cheers.

      • #2295251 Reply
        rong
        AskWoody Plus

        So probably a newbie question, but does the installation media get updated over time? Or would what I’d download today be the same as the one I downloaded months ago shortly after release?

        Also, considering Win 10 updates seem mostly cumulative would there be any advantage to a newer install media?

         

        • #2295255 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          There is usually an ISO produced shortly after a version is released.
          Then it is updated at various times during the version’s life.
          There is usually an ISO created at a stable point close to the time the next version is released.
          The advantage to a later ISO version is that problems of past versions have been corrected.

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          • #2295456 Reply
            AlexEiffel
            AskWoody_MVP

            In the case of Windows 2004 though, I haven’t seen a fix yet for the bug that destroys the ReFS parity drives so for the few that use those, it wouldn’t be a great ISO to keep.

            Is Microsoft just satisfied with telling people whose drives were maybe not corrupted yet to just put them in read only and hope that by not talking about it anymore, the problem will just disappear, with the “if nobody talks about, it it doesn’t exist”, logic?

            And to add an answer to the original question, maybe having a newer ISO would prevent some terrible bugs like the ones that destroyed data in the original 1809 release to hit you before it gets patched with a cumulative update. If you install a bad version that kills your data, even if you add the cumulative update right after, it might be too late. That is why I always run older versions and I save the newer ISOs at the end of the availability period.

            PKCano, do you know if when you do an in place feature update without media using Windows update, if you get the equivalent of the newer ISO and might not need a cumulative update or if you get the older ISO and then the cumulative update ? I suppose it would be dangerous to have the latter.

             

            • #2295462 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              PKCano, do you know if when you do an in place feature update without media using Windows update, if you get the equivalent of the newer ISO and might not need a cumulative update or if you get the older ISO and then the cumulative update ? I suppose it would be dangerous to have the latter.

              I think in the case of in-place through Windows Update you get the latest Build and do not need updating.
              With the MCT you get the latest ISO MS has made, which may not be the latest Build.
              I am not quoting a known source – just my experience.

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      • #2295258 Reply
        wavy
        AskWoody Plus

        Any idea on the release date??

        🍻

        Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
        • #2295260 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Whenever Microsoft deems it’s ready? 🙂

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        • #2295516 Reply
          EP
          AskWoody_MVP

          release date of what, wavy?
          be specific

          • #2295845 Reply
            wavy
            AskWoody Plus

            2004 of windows

            🍻

            Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
      • #2295350 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        On the strength of this article.

        I’ve installed 2004 on my final pc. Currently, OK, ALL GOOD !
        W10 64 Pro 2004, W10 64 Home 2004, W10 32 Home 2004.
        The W10 32 Home 2004, is my ‘try-out’ pc. Slowest thing I’ve ever used.
        Might try any new W10 OS Build on this pc, after the 1st month’s updates.
        Shuffle the other 2 through the OS life-span.
        Not a great ‘imager’, etc.

        • #2295670 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          I’m glad your 2004 upgrade went well.

          But that’s NOT what I recommend. Nor is it what I’ve done with my 1909 production machines.

      • #2295413 Reply
        wavy
        AskWoody Plus

        Ok saved my copy but saw something new, my old version of the MediaCreationTool upon running said I needed a newer version of it, which I d/led and made my copy.

        🍻

        Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
      • #2295454 Reply
        tcc089
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks for the reminder @PKCano!

        I had created my offline media (ISO files) back in June, but I’ve just re-done the process today (initially assuming that the download would be from the Aug status).  When I looked through this whole thread while the download was in progress, I found that my latter assumption has been confirmed by @CADesertRat above in post #2295233.

        However, I’ve kept the June ISO … just in case 🙂

        Thanks.

      • #2295494 Reply
        John
        AskWoody Lounger

        I wished now I had kept 1909 because in my opinion 2004 is still problematic to some degree.

        • #2295515 Reply
          EP
          AskWoody_MVP

          you can still grab a copy of the 1909 ISO using Heidoc’s Windows ISO Downloader tool, John.
          so it’s not too late to get one as it can download ISOs for older Win10 releases

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      • #2295517 Reply
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        a year ago around the end of September 2019, MS did release 1903 “V2” ISOs with build 18362.356

        let’s see if MS could release a set of “V2” ISOs for v2004 with build 19041.508 (KB4571756 update integrated) around middle or late September 2020

        edit – I’ll go against the advice here and WAIT until MS produces newer 2004 ISOs with at least build 19041.508 and THEN I’ll go get a copy of an updated 2004 ISO download; just like for waiting a few weeks until it’s safe to apply the September 2020 patches

        so there’s no real need to actually rushing out and getting a copy of Win10 v2004 yet since the upcoming 20H2 release won’t be due out until either late October or sometime in November.

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      • #2295603 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        If I’m not running 2004, is there a good reason to get this? I use the 365 day deferral. Would it make more sense to have 2004 and use it to upgrade when 1909 loses support, or go with the latest version then? Or would it depend on what happens with 2009, and thus I should download the ISO just in case?

        • #2295609 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          v1909 isn’t EOL until May 11, 2021. v2004 still has quite a few problems. For now, Woody recommends staying with v1909 – you have plenty of time left. And you 365-day deferral is good for a long time yet.

          It is a good idea, though, to use the Media Creation Tool to create a v2004 ISO for later use, because once v20H2 (not named 2009) is released, the v2004 ISO will be harder to come by. You don’t want to upgrade to 20H2 right after it is released, so having the v2004 ISO is insurance for when v1909 goes EOL.

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          • #2296103 Reply
            dmt_3904
            AskWoody Plus

            I was on 1803 when it went EOL.  I updated using in-place through Windows Update.  I used instructions from this forum which allowed me to download 1909 based on number of deferral days, won’t this be the same – meaning I can get v2004 based on number of deferral days ?

            I never use the media creation tool and am not comfortable/familiar with it. Why would I use that instead of in-place download? Thanks

             

            • #2296171 Reply
              doriel
              AskWoody Lounger

              For me personally, the main reason for MCT is, that I have always installation available. Solid, all-the-time-available solution for update. I do not need to wait IF it appears in Windows Update and I do not need to wait until these gigabytes are downloaded.

              Dell Latitude E6530, Intel Core i5 @ 2.6 GHz, 4GB RAM, W10 1809 Enterprise

              HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

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              • #2299996 Reply
                KP
                AskWoody Plus

                I agree and do it for the same reason. Plus I can do the upgrade offline.

      • #2296020 Reply
        firstmerk
        AskWoody Plus

        WHEN to download (Win10 version###) final build?

        Windows is constantly patching as versions ‘mature’. Do the versions downloaded with Media Creation Tool, come ‘patched’? Or is the version downloaded the same raw version that initially comes out?
        If patched, is there some kind of predictable schedule?

        I figure if it does get patched, may as well try to get the most recent version, but don’t want to play chicken with MS decision when to pull a version and foist the new one on us.

        • #2296022 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          MS periodically creates a new ISO during the life of a version of Windows. You definitely don’t want the first one that the MCT downloads for you.
          On the other hand, if you wait until the next version is available, I don’t care what version is in the title of the MCT you download, you will get the “latest and greatest”.

          It is getting close to release time for 2009 (now known as 20H2). This is already the 9th month. It’s probably as good as it gets.

          I wouldn’t wait too much longer.

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        • #2296025 Reply
          Alex5723
          AskWoody Plus

          Just downloaded 2004 using MCT and got version 19041.450 (August 2020 patch Tuesday).

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      • #2296050 Reply
        BobRoss2024
        AskWoody Lounger

        I’m currently using win10 pro and when I download the iso file from the site listed, the only option I get for versions is Win 10.

        Does this iso file include win10 pro? If not, how can I download the pro version??

        Thanks!

        • #2296054 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          If you use the MCT, when it creates the ISO it will ask you if you want it for the current computer or you want to use it for other computers.
          If you choose other computers, it will create a generic ISO for 32 and 64 bit, Home and Pro.

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        • #2296056 Reply
          CADesertRat
          AskWoody Plus

          I’m currently using win10 pro and when I download the iso file from the site listed, the only option I get for versions is Win 10.

          The MCT always say’s “W10 Home” in the USB download. If you decide to install the ISO it will recognize that you have Pro.

          Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
          4 Win 10 Pro at 1909 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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      • #2296063 Reply
        BobRoss2024
        AskWoody Lounger

        If you use the MCT, when it creates the ISO it will ask you if you want it for the current computer or you want to use it for other computers.
        If you choose other computers, it will create a generic ISO for 32 and 64 bit, Home and Pro.

         

        I’m currently using win10 pro and when I download the iso file from the site listed, the only option I get for versions is Win 10.

        The MCT always say’s “W10 Home” in the USB download. If you decide to install the ISO it will recognize that you have Pro.

         

        Ok so when/if I install this generic ISO image, I’ll either get the option to install PRO or the install program will see I’m on PRO am automatically install PRO, great!

        Thanks 👍

      • #2296130 Reply
        artsog
        AskWoody Plus

        Is there a Woody group discussion somewhere of the mechanics of upgrading once we have used the  media creation tool to download an ISO?

        Questions I have in mind:
        –is it always preferable to install from a USB or can we trust installation from the same hard drive that holds the current OS?
        –my machine’s OS was installed by the vendor so it’s an OEM version.   Does installation of a newer version of Win10 from the ISO require that we first find the serial number of our license?   Or will the installation process find and use the OS license of what we currently have installed?

        • #2296138 Reply
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          You can install from the local hard disk by mounting the ISO (double click and run setup.exe from the new drive), or create a USB version. Both work fine.

          You do not need to enter a license, Windows will pick up the details from your machine.

          The only thing you need to do is make an image backup before you start.

          cheers, Paul

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          • #2302272 Reply
            LHiggins
            AskWoody Plus

            Hi Paul,

            Can you tell me how large of a thumb drive I’d need for this? I’m planning to order a few specifically for saving a version of 2004 and 1909 from Heidec and wanted to be sure I had enough space on each.

            Thanks!

            • #2302273 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              8GB flash drives should be big enough for either storing an ISO or making bootable install media.

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              • #2302279 Reply
                LHiggins
                AskWoody Plus

                Great – thanks!!

                But as noted by John782 will I need to reformat the drive to NTFS first?

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              • #2302482 Reply
                Paul T
                AskWoody MVP

                Nope, flash drives tend to come formatted exFAT, which is good for around 128PB.

                cheers, Paul

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      • #2296135 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        The install program will see you are on PRO 32 or 64bit.

      • #2296137 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Is there a Woody group discussion somewhere of the mechanics of upgrading once we have used the  media creation tool to download an ISO?

        Questions I have in mind:
        –is it always preferable to install from a USB or can we trust installation from the same hard drive that holds the current OS?
        –my machine’s OS was installed by the vendor so it’s an OEM version.   Does installation of a newer version of Win10 from the ISO require that we first find the serial number of our license?   Or will the installation process find and use the OS license of what we currently have installed?

        You can mount the ISO file (double click) and run setup.exe from within Windows, or boot from bootable USB. It doesn’t make a difference.
        Your Windows 10 license is “burned on the motherboard”. No need to enter license.

        As advised , disconnect from the Internet (Lan/Wi-fi) before updating/upgrading.
        Take a full image copy of your system to an external USB HD before updating/upgrading.

        • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by Alex5723.
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      • #2296147 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        What is Heidoc.net?

        Heidoc.net is a site that lets you download Windows (7, 8.1, 10) and Office ISO files that can’t be downloaded directly from Microsoft.
        The ISO files are Microsoft releases.

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        • #2296190 Reply
          dmt_3904
          AskWoody Plus

          Thanks.  I went there.  I could not find anything other than windows 7.  I’m sure it’s just my ignorance.  I noticed that the site is not HTTPS. My browser forced it but, but in’t that a security risk?  I would think it’s critical to encrypt a site where one is downloading software.

          • #2296199 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            Go to Heidoc.net. The site IS https  https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/
            Click on the Windows and Office ISO Download Tool

            Screen-Shot-2020-09-14-at-7.29.43-AM

            Download it to your desktop
            Run it by double clicking on it.
            Choose the ISO for the Windows *version, *Edition (Home or Pr0), and *bitedness (32 or 64 bit) that you want.
            Download the ISO to your desktop.
            Now you have several choices:
            + Double click on the ISO and mount OR right click on the ISO and “Open with” File Explorer. It will show up as another drive letter. You can install it on that computer by running setup.exe
            + You can copy/paste the ISO to a storage device (external USB HDD, for example) to be used later.
            + You can “burn” it to install media (DVD or bootable USB) to be used later.

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      • #2296300 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I’ve got a new build with Win 10 Pro. Nothing but minimal drivers on it. Better to get 2004 loaded now before loading other software?

        • #2296304 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Woody recommends v1909 until v2004 stabilizes. The latter still has some problems.

      • #2296307 Reply
        firstmerk
        AskWoody Plus

        What version do you have now?

        If it’s 1909 I STRONGLY suggest you DO NOT upgrade. There is nothing you need (few changes), and you forfeit some control over upgrades (thanks MS.), not to mention the glitches. Seems every new version has accumulated a larger number of hassles. 2004 is almost ready to ‘age off’ and it isn’t even ready for prime time yet.

      • #2296794 Reply
        John782
        AskWoody Plus

        Go to Heidoc.net. The site IS https  https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/
        Click on the Windows and Office ISO Download Tool

        Screen-Shot-2020-09-14-at-7.29.43-AM

        Download it to your desktop
        Run it by double clicking on it.
        Choose the ISO for the Windows *version, *Edition (Home or Pr0), and *bitedness (32 or 64 bit) that you want.
        Download the ISO to your desktop.
        Now you have several choices:
        + Double click on the ISO and mount OR right click on the ISO and “Open with” File Explorer. It will show up as another drive letter. You can install it on that computer by running setup.exe
        + You can copy/paste the ISO to a storage device (external USB HDD, for example) to be used later.
        + You can “burn” it to install media (DVD or bootable USB) to be used later.

        Thank you, PKCano. You made it easy and simple. I downloaded the ISO file to the Desktop on both of my laptops. Then I copied the file and pasted it to a USB, that I had converted from a Fat32 format to a NTFS format. I had forgotten that when the USB is in the Fat32 format that you will always get a message that the file is too large even though you do have plenty of available space on the USB.

         

      • #2296804 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        I had forgotten that when the USB is in the Fat32 format that you will always get a message that the file is too large even though you do have plenty of available space on the USB.

        The file is too large in FAT32 because FAT32 can handle only files up to 4GB.

      • #2296878 Reply
        ECWS
        AskWoody Plus

        Downloading Windows 10 2004 now.  Instructions were very helpful.

        How can I tell which version it is?  For example, the August 11th edition was mentioned in the article.  Does it matter which edition you get?

        What is the difference between getting Windows 10 2004 version from the Microsoft site or getting it from heidoc.net either now or later?

         

        • #2296882 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Windows 10 gets updated every month, so the version downloaded through Windows Update is the current (latest) version.

          The ISO is only created periodically and it remains the static version that was compressed to make the ISO (until the next ISO is made at a later time).
          The Heidoc ISOs are frozen in time (the date the ISO was madr by MS).
          The ISO created by downloading the MCT and using it to create an ISO will probably be a later version.

          The later (newer) version will most likely be the most stable.

          • #2296884 Reply
            ECWS
            AskWoody Plus

            Thanks.

            I have the following programs on my computer and not sure what they do or if I need them after reading the instructions on Computerworld.  (I have not installed Windows 10 yet).

            MediaCreationTool1909.exe 18804 KB

            MediaCreationTool2004.exe 18990 KB

            Windows-ISO-Downloader.exe 6512 KB

            Windows10Upgrade24074.exe 6388 KB

            • #2296934 Reply
              Paul T
              AskWoody MVP

              I have the following programs on my computer and not sure what they do

              You do not need to keep them. You don’t even need to upgrade to 10 if you keep your system patched via ESU or 0patch. Your machine may not even upgrade to 10, not all do.

              Start a new thread if you want specific advise.

              cheers, Paul

      • #2296883 Reply
        Linda2019
        AskWoody Plus

        When I went to windows site it also has the “update now” for the Update Assistant.  Do we need to save a copy of that?

        • #2296935 Reply
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          No, all you need is the ISO.
          If you have no plans to update for a while, you don’t even need the 2004 ISO – you can always get it later.

          cheers, Paul

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      • #2299997 Reply
        KP
        AskWoody Plus

        I like the UserAgent method because I do not need to run in Admin mode, to download it.

        This has changed in Firefox, because you now need an AddOn, User-Agent Switch and Manager. In the AddOn, change the browser’s user agent to be non-Windows then apply to All Windows Tabs. Then it follows method 2 from Woody’s article. You will need to choose between a 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 10.

        I did not check if it is the Aug. 11 version, 19041.450, because I download the latest cumulative patch (once I want to upgrade to 2004) and apply the ISO and patches offline, before putting the PC on the Internet.

        • #2300001 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Be sure you also download the matching SSU. You need to install it first.

          • #2301034 Reply
            KP
            AskWoody Plus

            Thanks I forgot to mention the SSU. Also it would be good to consider downloading the  Cumulative .Net Framework before hand too, to apply all patches offline.

            Because I am bias to Firefox, all standalone installs are available at https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

             

        • #2301036 Reply
          KP
          AskWoody Plus

          Some corrections:

          User-Agent Switch and Manager

          User-Agent Switcher and Manager

          All Windows Tabs

          Apply (all windows)

           

           

      • #2300311 Reply
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        ok, I now think it’s time to grab a copy of those 2004 ISOs before MS replaces them with the 20H2 versions later this October on their web site.

        please note that the 2004 ISOs normally obtained from the MS Win10 downloads page or with the 2004 media creation tool (with either build 19041.264 or 19041.450 [the Aug. 2020 refresh of 2004]) will not include the defrag bugfix. KB4571744, KB4571756 or higher update will have to be installed after v2004 installation to fix most of the defrag bugs.

        MSDN/MVS subscribers have gotten the newer 2004 ISOs with build 19041.508 (KB4571756 CU integrated) in late September that includes most of the defrag fixes.
        Ask a willing MSDN/MVS user to obtain these updated 2004 ISOs (aka. Sept. 2020 refresh of 2004) which do include the defrag bugfixes:
        en_windows_10_consumer_editions_version_2004_updated_sep_2020_x64_dvd_4c07c420.iso
        en_windows_10_consumer_editions_version_2004_updated_sep_2020_x86_dvd_9bcac8c4.iso

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