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    • #1789122 Reply

      Da Boss

      The June 2019 non-Security Office updates have been released Tuesday, June 4, 2019. They are not included in the DEFCON4 approval for the May 2019 pat
      [See the full post at: June 2019 non-Security Office updates are available]

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    • #1791497 Reply

      AskWoody Lounger

      “Consumer patching should be more cautious…”?

      H E double-hockeysticks NO! We (business) can’t afford the outages bad patches bring, if anything, I’d rather err with our patches on the side of stability and wait at least a month after patch release before applying anything unless there’s an exploit or outbreak in the wild. Business/govt has better protection (firewalls, IPS/IDS systems, etc.) at the border than most consumers, so we aren’t as affected as private users when there’s danger out there.

      I take my queue for patching from the Defcon in combination with Susan’s list of patches. I consider Susan’s list more for consumers anyway, since it doesn’t have info on Exchange or SQL patches or other corporate info. But it is certainly very useful for keeping the base server and workstation OS’s covered (as well as Office apps).

      If consumers don’t do the testing for us, then we’re s***ed.


      No matter where you go, there you are.

    • #1792170 Reply

      AskWoody Lounger

      Hi, I have Office 2019 on a recently bought W10 PC; it looks like there’s never any update on it ?

      • #1792958 Reply

        Da Boss

        Office 2019 is C2R and has its own updating separate from Windows Update. These updates are for the .mui versions (persistent, through v2016).

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      AskWoody Lounger

      Hello, Win10 Home 1803 user here who has been following with interest this blog from the past several months and I couldn’t be happier to have finally found some guidance to assist me figure out when it’s (sufficiently) safe to install updates rather than letting WU throw me whatever it likes whenever it likes.

      Interestingly enough, I realized when reading this post that the “Update for Skype for Business 2015 KB4464593” was not part of the May patches that had been green-lit for installation. Before installing the May patches last Tuesday wushowhide did not list KB4464593 among the patches available to be hidden, so I was kind of surprised that WU installed it together with the May patches that I had previously hidden. Is it possible that updates available on WU are not immediately “detectable” by wushowhide? Guess this is one reason to avoid installing patches on any of the patch Tuesdays and maybe wait for the next day…

      BTW, with all the screwed up patches over the past months I thing I couldn’t agree more with the recommendation that “Consumer patching should be more cautious”. I see the logic (and the benefit for business users) of having consumer users field-testing the patches, but at the same time I’m no longer willing to risk the stability of my system (and my own nervous system) if the patches are put out there with apparently no effort to curb the worst bugs. In other words, in the (unlikely) scenario that there will no longer be enough consumers acting as unpaid beta testers for the patches, I suppose we know who is to blame.

      Oh, one last thing: I noticed that opening any page on AskWoody at this time of the day (I’m currently on UTC+2 and it’s 19.30 here) is very slow, while I have no trouble at other hours of the day. Maybe this is just due to heavy traffic on the site at this hour, but I thought to mention this in case it’s something someone wants to look into.

      • #1800381 Reply

        Da Boss

        For consumers, Woody has the DEFCON system. You can read about it by clicking on the “MS-DEFCON System” button in the top gray menubar.

        But the gist of it is, wait until the updates have been tested before installing them. Before Patch Tuesday, Woody sets the DEFCON level at 1 or 2. That means wait to patch. As the reports of problems come in, we log the information. When Woody decides we have the scope on the fixes (usually 2-3 weeks later), he will raise the DEFCON level to 3 or greater and publish instructions for safe patching in ComputerWorld.

        The DEFCON System has saved la lot of us a lot of problems.

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      • #1800398 Reply

        Da Boss

    Please follow the -Lounge Rules- no personal attacks, no swearing, and politics/religion are relegated to the Rants forum.

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