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      • #2340046
        Susan Bradley
        Manager

        First off, my goal here is to protect the regulars and keep out the spammers.  I’m using a specific spam service that is designed to keep known spamme
        [See the full post at: Keeping the spammers away]

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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      • #2340072
        CBA
        AskWoody Plus

        “…if you are a registered user, or an AskWoody plus member you shouldn’t see the filtering software or the count down … If you need me to whitelist your IP because it’s flagging you as a spammer even though you are not, let me know.”

        I get stuck in your new ‘filtering count down’ when clicking on an email link from AW telling me I have a thread reply.  Intent good, but this needs tweaking.  And .. as I use different IPs, whitelisting ain’t no good either.  Didn’t this work okay in the past w/o filtering?

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      • #2340076
        HiFlyer
        AskWoody Plus

        I’m not blocked unless using Nord VPN, then about 1/4 of their server choices  are rejected by AW.   Null problemo;  I suppose that’s a good way to insure a good choice.   Or…….

      • #2340070
        arfurdent
        AskWoody Plus

        RSS feed has stopped working.

        When checking link I get “Anti-Crawler Protection is activated for your IP” page

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        • #2340083
          HiFlyer
          AskWoody Plus

          I got the anti-crawler too, without the vpn.  Refreshed the connection and it’s o.k.

      • #2340088
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        I just got the antispam crawler. IP won’t help as it assigned and changed by the ISP .

        • #2340093
          The Surfing Pensioner
          AskWoody Plus

          Same here – my I.P. address is beyound my control. So is this horrid new anti-spam software, which pounces on me every time as soon as I access the site, before I get a chance to log in. If anyone has the power to tell it my IP address is IP 146.200.14.6
          and I’m not into spam, I just like to browse the forums, I’d be very grateful!

      • #2340091
        anonymous
        Guest

        I got the Anti-Crawler Protection prompt this morning. It did make me ‘Laugh-Out-Loud’.
        I thought I’d let the recipient aware of their place on the WWW.
        https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-com-Community-feedback/Anti-Crawler-Protection-Software/td-p/2138177

        Keep ’em coming ?

      • #2340090
        anonymous
        Guest

        snake oil for the site. Nice if you want no-one to read anything on here and move on elsewhere :-{|} bit like the banner a few weeks ago ¬

        • #2340116
          Susan Bradley
          Manager

          My apologies!  I’ve turned off the anti-crawler setting.  Can you let me know if it’s better now?

          Susan Bradley Patch Lady

          • #2340131
            CBA
            AskWoody Plus

            It’s off right now.  Refreshing .. after being caught by the anti-crawler 5-6 times today.

          • #2340138
            The Surfing Pensioner
            AskWoody Plus

            Much better – instant access once again! I wonder if the disadvantages of this anti-crawler software outweigh the advantages?

      • #2340118
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        Wait three seconds and the site comes up.

        spam

        On Hiatus {with backup and coffee}
        offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender TRV=1909 WuMgr
        offline▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.685 x86 Atom N270 RAM2GB HDD WindowsDefender WuMgr GuineaPigVariant
        online▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.804 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox86.0 WindowsDefender TRV=20H2 WuMgr
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      • #2340121
        F A Kramer
        AskWoody Plus

        I have ExpressVPN running and have, in three separate tries to log on, been able to access AskWoody without any blocking or adverse messages.

      • #2340229
        HiFlyer
        AskWoody Plus

        Just now Nord VPN has gotten the “403 forbidden” message 4 times in a row.  5th time worked.  In Germany using dufferent  German servers via Nord each time.

        The above post was blocked with this notice.

        • Your message was blocked. Please contact the administrator via sb@askwoody.com*** Forbidden. Your IP belongs to a high spam risk network. Please, try again without VPN. ***
        So I disconnected Nord and went naked and it now works .   Aggravation.

         

        • This reply was modified 1 month ago by HiFlyer. Reason: you blocked me with a vpn
        • This reply was modified 1 month ago by HiFlyer. Reason: clarity
        • #2340237
          Susan Bradley
          Manager

          What you are seeing now is the “normal” blocking not my anti-crawler test.

          Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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        • #2340238
          Microfix
          AskWoody MVP

          Even NordVPN has dirty IP addresses used by spammers, unfortunately it seems you have been assigned/chosen them. It’s unrelated to the anti-crawler but also annoying. I can only say that VPN’s no matter where or whom, always get polluted by trolls/miscreants and spammers.
          I know your a long-time member @HiFlyer but, the site needs protected.(outwith our control)

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          • #2340250
            HiFlyer
            AskWoody Plus

            Null problemo.  My aggravation is with Nord,  but  I don’t understand Microfix’s final comment.

            “(outwith our control)” ??

             

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            • #2340252
              Microfix
              AskWoody MVP

              we can’t conrol the people behind VPN’s creating dirty IP addresses, and neither can NordVPN until it’s too late, is what I meant.

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      • #2340291
        arfurdent
        AskWoody Plus

        RSS feed in Outlook now working again

      • #2340312
        anonymous
        Guest

         

        Have yet to run into any nag screens, despite never having created an account.

        But I have seen my posts seemingly never get approved, something that never happened before. I’m curious if this one will be approved.

        I’m not against creating an account–I just never needed one before, and it was one less bit of hassle. I even subscribe to the (free) Newsletter.

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      • #2340367
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Spam post ? really ?

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        • #2340490
          Cee Arr
          AskWoody Plus

          Exactly!  So much for ‘lets try this’ AKA Google Analytics – the “Gold Standard” and ‘lets try that’ AKA Web Crawler.  How about lets just leave things as they are and not add more “stuff” that does not necessarily improve the users experience. In essence ‘Ask Woody’ is a forum for the members and hopefully by the members.

          • #2340503
            Susan Bradley
            Manager

            It’s not just the users experience I worry about.  It’s the moderator workload.  In this case this specific plug in is to help to scan for spammers. Behind the scenes every moderator here does a TON of work.  Ultimately I want to balance their workload and give them back some of their hard earned time.  With technology you never can just leave things be, you have to be one step ahead of the attackers.  For sure I will be giving feedback to the plug in vendor.  In my testing I didn’t have issues.  Clearly in production we did.

            Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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        • #2340504
          Susan Bradley
          Manager

          The plug in in that caused the issues yesterday is no longer operational.  Your experience now is the normal wordfence firewall.  Two links and hardly any text means that to the firewall you looked like a spammer.  You need to type more in your post so it’s not seen as a spammer.

          Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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      • #2340428
        deuce120
        AskWoody Plus

        I, too, have an issue now and then when attempting to connect to AskWoody when my VPN (PIA) is connected. I either switch locations or turn it off. The information that I gain from this site is more important to me than me attempting to remain anonymous.

        1 user thanked author for this post.
      • #2340558
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Two links and hardly any text means that to the firewall you looked like a spammer.

        The spam system can run every link posted with VirusTotal in order to clear/block links.

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      • #2340609
        NaNoNyMouse
        AskWoody Lounger

        I used to run a forum site myself, so I know it’s a tough gig. Spammers were a constant source of annoyance back then, and I’m sure that in the meantime things haven’t got any better

        My strategy was to firstly not allow anonymous posters (which I’d guess goes against the ethos here), but, more importantly, once someone had registered and their first couple of posts had been moderated and accepted, then they weren’t subjected to any further monitoring. Spammers pretty much always reveal their true colours in their first post, and once they’d revealed themselves they were immediately banned

        That way, I kept the spam posts off the site, but without alienating the core users. I was using vBulletin as the forum software. Don’t know how feasible that would be with your current software, but maybe some variation on the approach would be possible, whereby the spam trap would only apply to anonymous users, and registered users who didn’t yet have a post to their name? If that could be automated, then it would hopefully also help to reduce the moderators’ workloads

        Just a thought

        • This reply was modified 4 weeks, 1 day ago by NaNoNyMouse.
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